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Hi,
This weekend I upgraded my CDMA Hero to DamageControl. Let me say.. WOW.. it is great....
there are a few minor issues..
-gallery landscape issues
-vvm... but Google Voice is great!
-no Sprint TV
-upgrade Radio???
I am here to ask.. should I upgrade the Radio?
did some research and I am getting mixed feeling on this. Since in the past, only real way to brick your phone is to mess with the radio... and all the others that have major issues with the new Radio.
I am having cold feet about this!!
I can see that I am low in signal strength. and my standby time/ 50% of the time my phone is looking for coverage. My battery is not as good as it was before my new 2.1 ROM.
It looks like I should get the 2.41.04.02.(03) version
NOT the (02) version. RIGHT?
Any feedback??
Check this out about 2.1 and poor battery life.
androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/52761-those-worse-battery-life-fresh-2-0b-might-work-1-1-too.html
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Im in for other's opinions on this. I already upgraded the radio but cant seem to be able to update PRL and signal icon has low bars all the time, even if my wife's Hero has all the bars.
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zmk76 said:
Check this out about 2.1 and poor battery life.
androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/52761-those-worse-battery-life-fresh-2-0b-might-work-1-1-too.html
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Yeah.. I have read that.. and mine was already on CDMA auto PRL.... and 50%
I dont want to be on CDMA only... because.. I think that it will cause lower connectivity.
Dan330 said:
Yeah.. I have read that.. and mine was already on CDMA auto PRL.... and 50%
I dont want to be on CDMA only... because.. I think that it will cause lower connectivity.
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Our phones can only use CDMA so i am pretty sure it will not effect connectivity.... unless i am missing something.
You want it set to CDMA only, otherwise you get problems
i won't upgrade my radio until sprint releases one...too easy to brick your phone.
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Our phones can only use CDMA so i am pretty sure it will not effect connectivity.... unless i am missing something.
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PRL.. is for roaming...
that is what I have read.
I have upgraded the radio. I set mine to CDMA only and I was only able to connect at 1X instead of EV after that. I am not sure what is going on with it.
I installed the radio right after upgrading to fresh 2.0b. My phone has been doing just fine since. I didn't know at the time that it could brick my phone. Glad it didn't. I am happy with the radio.
okay im running pancake 1.5 and i have the latest prl version. i noticed my signal is worse now than before and it drops out alot. could there be a fix for this? maybe roll back to a previous prl? im also noticing the phone gets laggy at times, then i loose the evo icon, then it comes back after 30 seconds.... idea's???
Which radio (baseband) are you running?
im running flipz prl and radio
cant vouch for battery
can definatly vouch for signal
flipzmode said:
Which radio (baseband) are you running?
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the stock one for 1.5 i guess, i haven't installed any other ones. im currently flashing your 2.1 rom...do you recommend a custom radio?
You can always revert you just have to find someone that has the old PRL file.. If you give me a little bit, I might be able to find that for you on my old service computer.. It crapped out last week so I don't know if I still have it or not..
The PRL lets the phone know how it is supposed to interact with roaming towers, so if the updated PRL removed a tower near you, due to contract or whatever, you are most likely having your issue because of that.. Also, if it adds a tower that previously wasn't in your PRL, you could be polling between the two, back and forth with no solid connection, that would explain the EV drop..
Also, if the output was decreased for whatever reason, you could just be too far away from the tower...
Give me a little while, and I will PM you if I can find a way for you to revert. I am pretty sure you have to have RMS so you might not be able to with my file..
fixxxer2008 said:
the stock one for 1.5 i guess, i haven't installed any other ones. im currently flashing your 2.1 rom...do you recommend a custom radio?
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Yea definitely upgrade the radio. They actually aren't custom radios, just ones stripped from newer roms or phones.
Check http://geekfor.me/radio for the list. The newest one out is http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-242000310/ which 90% of people have better battery life and signal quality. However depending on where you live and what equipment is used in your area, that isn't always the cost. Most of the people who aren't using 2.42 are using this one http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-241040203/
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You can always revert you just have to find someone that has the old PRL file.. If you give me a little bit, I might be able to find that for you on my old service computer.. It crapped out last week so I don't know if I still have it or not..
The PRL lets the phone know how it is supposed to interact with roaming towers, so if the updated PRL removed a tower near you, due to contract or whatever, you are most likely having your issue because of that.. Also, if it adds a tower that previously wasn't in your PRL, you could be polling between the two, back and forth with no solid connection, that would explain the EV drop..
Also, if the output was decreased for whatever reason, you could just be too far away from the tower...
Give me a little while, and I will PM you if I can find a way for you to revert. I am pretty sure you have to have RMS so you might not be able to with my file..
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wow man you are smart(i mean that in most literal sense possible)
if what he says is true (i dont doubt it is) then id advice switching between the two and experimenting. i know avalaunch posted a solid method of rollback, alltho i believe it concerns a hard reset, and your msl, which is apprently hard to get. good luck, i think the guy i qouted would be more of a help.
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Yea definitely upgrade the radio. They actually aren't custom radios, just ones stripped from newer roms or phones.
Check http://geekfor.me/radio for the list. The newest one out is http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-242000310/ which 90% of people have better battery life and signal quality. However depending on where you live and what equipment is used in your area, that isn't always the cost. Most of the people who aren't using 2.42 are using this one http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-241040203/
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
Yeah Ill be honest. I think in my area, I got better signal before using the 2.42. I think Im gonna roll back and see how it goes.
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
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Yup there is a link to download/flash the stock one in there too. http://geekfor.me/radio/baseband-104010921/
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
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ah, see now here i can help. avalaunch also posted the stock radio a long time ago, flashable in recovery, and i can vouch for a sucssful flash and rollback. decided new radio in combo of flipz prl indeed boosted my signal. like i said, no go on the battery but overall worth it in the end.
i do have to say, because i was warned, radio flashing is indeed tricky buisness, do some reading up.
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Yeah Ill be honest. I think in my area, I got better signal before using the 2.42. I think Im gonna roll back and see how it goes.
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Because, as I have said numerous times before, and no one listens, the service you are getting is dependent on your a)location b)distance from tower c) PRL (for roaming and interconnectivity with other towers)..
The only thing the radio does is manage the signal power input and output of a device..
yeah im going back to the stock radio, the 2.1 radio signal was far worse.
Ive noticed just after the other day my phone roams almost constantly, I have the 60664 PRL and yet it still roams even in my own house. What can I do?
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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I would also like some info on this. Anyone knowledgable in this area?
I don't know the first thing about radios....please enlighten us.
I tried all three with the phone in the same location. I did two tests with speed test and i watched the signal in dbs. I determined that based on my location (Tampa) the 7.28 worked the best in my location. Just my $0.02.
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Check out the Radio Threads
FWIW, there are at lease two very good threads devoted to radios.
Many opinions and much anecdotal evidence is found in them - they are worth a studious look.
Read the entire threads.
Why? experiences by radio vary widely based on geography, ROM, PRL, and a host of other things.
I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
POQbum said:
I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
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Exactly, all those conflicting words to describe the exact same firmware on the exact same hardware, and often the same ROM. Flashing radio firmware is probably the riskiest thing you can do to the Inc. A corrupt ROM without a backup, you loose your apps and contacts. Too bad. A corrupt or mistake with firmware, and the phone will never ever power on again. Period.
Scary stuff.
In my area, 11.19 is the best.
It really just depends.
Just try them all out for a few days each and see which one you like best.
In my area 7.28 works the best. I had incredibly slow 3g with the other radios. Just install one and experiment with it people get mixed results
Results may vary........
Been running 7.28. Haven't felt the need to risk changing it especially with all the conflicting advice.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
Grrr
I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
najaboy said:
There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
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Although you are obviously correct, it really shouldn't be that way. We are all using the same radio hardware. If certain radio firmware causes my radio to connect better to one verizon tower and worse to another verizon tower, that indicates a problem with verizon somewhere. A properly built radio+firmware should connect as good as possible to any tower.
It seems that generally people have better GPS connection with the newer firmwares... but GPS does not connect to verizon towers.
Perhaps some of the verizon towers need updated firmware.
jdmba said:
I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
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11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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superchilpil said:
11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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Same here.
Also, as a test for 7.xx and 11.19:
My mom and brother both have DIncs. Theirs are the SLCD and the 7.xx radio, mine is AMOLED and 11.19 radio. I open up the setting to look at signal strength, and mine (11.19) is always highest.
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Also, 11.19 tends to read the actual signal strength more efficiently that the others, i.e. it changes from 3G to 1x when in weak service, something the other 2 radios are much slower to do.
In my area 7.28 has been the best. I noticed large decreases in signal strength when using gps with 11.19.
Overall, I did not notice much difference between the three, but I know that 7.28 works and it eliminates a variable when troubleshooting.
Im in WI and 11.19 is the way to go in my area. Went from -95 db with the stock radio to -60 with 11.19. It also improved my battery life and 3G speed.
Looks like we have an update. So far so good in my area. Went from 500kbps down to 1110.
I'm getting 1275kbps down 516kbps up, thats a hell of a lot better than what I was getting a couple of weeks ago.
Sure thing! Confirmed, no speed results here as I don't really pay attention, Sprint is usually slow in my hometown. Thanks for the heads up!
You guys always do this.
PRL has nothing to do with speed. It's just updated tower info.
HipKat said:
You guys always do this.
PRL has nothing to do with speed. It's just updated tower info.
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updated tower info can lead to better reception and faster speeds because your phone will do handshakes with towers it never did before (in some cases) and any updates to the towers will reflect on the phones.
I do agree that it doesn't 100% = to speed, but it's an important part of the equation.
Hope somebody upload it.
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The only thing that will improve, if at all is cell signal, not data.
All a PRL does is update the information on which towers to connect to, basically
Jeez.....
This happens every time a new PRL comes out, people buying into some placebo effect that doesn't exist.
vasiaeva said:
Hope somebody upload it.
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Hope no one gets their feelings hurt for me uploading this BUT here it is....
HipKat said:
The only thing that will improve, if at all is cell signal, not data.
All a PRL does is update the information on which towers to connect to, basically
Jeez.....
This happens every time a new PRL comes out, people buying into some placebo effect that doesn't exist.
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True, but if you're connecting to a less crowded tower it can help data
Just wanted to direct you all to https://network.sprint.com/
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True, but if you're connecting to a less crowded tower it can help data
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The other posts are correct. You are going to connect to the same Sprint towers as you did before on the old PRL. A new tower does not need a PRL update to allow you to connect.
If this was true they would have PRL updates everyday due to new towers and new airaves coming online.
You did it
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How do I get the update if I'm rooted?
dwelder said:
How do I get the update if I'm rooted?
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Just update like you normally would. Or you could manually update it via ##775#
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JDM Civic EG8 said:
Just update like you normally would. Or you could manually update it via ##775#
Sent From my Verizon powered Evo 4G!
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I'm running the Decks 1.3 Rom which I don't think gives me the stock update option. If so I can't find it. I tried doing the 775 trick but it didn't do anything. Is there anything else I can do?
dwelder said:
I'm running the Decks 1.3 Rom which I don't think gives me the stock update option. If so I can't find it. I tried doing the 775 trick but it didn't do anything. Is there anything else I can do?
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Use QPST. Since you are writing a prl I would go ahead and put 11115 on it though for 3g roaming.
dwelder said:
I'm running the Decks 1.3 Rom which I don't think gives me the stock update option. If so I can't find it. I tried doing the 775 trick but it didn't do anything. Is there anything else I can do?
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Ahh I should have asked which rom you are using. On AOSP you have to use what he said below. Or you could do what I did. Have a sense rom saved in a nandroid backup.
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Thanks guys. I will give that a try. Thank you for your help.
rushco said:
Just wanted to direct you all to https://network.sprint.com/
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This is awesome! Not sure why I didn't know about this before. Interesting in the last 6 months there have been no network improvements in my area. But in the next 6 months I'll see 4 data capacity upgrades, 1 data speed upgrade and 1 voice upgrade.
In alot of the areas ive been in, they say theres been a ton of upgrades. But I still get awful data speeds.
OK, so in my area of work, LTE speeds have been way down for the last couple weeks or so. I'm talking around 500k/s download speeds, and that is on a good day. Around home I get 20mb/s which I feel is good for the area, and around 30-35mb/s at my girlfriends house
I'm still on MF9 baseband and firmware. Would going thru the steps to update to MJA have any affect on my data speeds? I've already kinda deducted that it's the area I'm at that is the cause of the slow network speeds, even though its not out in the boondocks, (northside Indianapolis, IN).
So yeah, pretty much just curious about any data speed improvements from updating to MJA baseband/modem/firmware yadda yadda.
If you flash the MJA modem you will lose sound, unless you're talking about the OTA?
Well I was considering flashing the MJA modem via Odin. I saw the post about how to flash just the modem in another thread, but I don't recall seeing anything about losing sound. Time to start researching whats going on with that.
Have people had that issue when doing upgrading to full MJA (rom/firmware) then going back to a 4.3 aosp rom? Seems like im gonna have fun borking my device tonight!
Thanks!
Your phone is obviously LTE capable. Your actual network speeds are a function of Sprint and flashing an updated modem isn't going to make Sprint any faster, just as switching to a different brand of gas isn't going to give you any more horsepower.
That's not true. I'm not saying it will change it in his case.... and while it wont change what sprint is putting out itself, different modems often affect data speed. And it's often different for every phone and area.
In the year and a half I owed a e4gt, there must have been more than a dozen modem releases. Everyone had their favorites. I had fav one for GB, one for ICS, and another for JB that gave significantly improved speeds and service over the other options.
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That's not true. I'm not saying it will change it in his case.... and while it wont change what sprint is putting out itself, different modems often affect data speed. And it's often different for every phone and area.
In the year and a half I owed a e4gt, there must have been more than a dozen modem releases. Everyone had their favorites. I had fav one for GB, one for ICS, and another for JB that gave significantly improved speeds and service over the other options.
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I had the e4gt myself and I have never noticed a significant difference with any modem that was not attributable to the quality of my connection to sprint. I found that most claims of better performance with a different modem turned out to be more of an anomaly or wishful thinking, at least for me. Likewise with my s3 and s4. I maintain that an updated modem is not going to give you significant improvement by itself, unless the previous version was particularly bad. I have never seen one that was.
You are in the minority in your opinion.
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I had the e4gt myself and I have never noticed a significant difference with any modem that was not attributable to the quality of my connection to sprint. I found that most claims of better performance with a different modem turned out to be more of an anomaly or wishful thinking, at least for me. Likewise with my s3 and s4. I maintain that an updated modem is not going to give you significant improvement by itself, unless the previous version was particularly bad. I have never seen one that was.
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to the OP:
I like to listen to a radio station while i shower in the morning before work. In this part of my house only certain modems on the e4gt would get wifi coverage. There are bars that i would like to eat at where only certain modems would get data access to. I would keep a bunch of flashable modems on my sdcard for when ever I got stuck.
The radio in the S4 seems to be very much better than the e4gt. They may not be able to improve it much with new modem upgrades. I know i will test them out myself though....
tensux said:
You are in the minority in your opinion.
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That doesn't mean I'm wrong.
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That doesn't mean I'm wrong.
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true... but you clearly are
tensux said:
true... but you clearly are
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ok buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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ok buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Lol. If I let know it alls cause me to lose sleep, I wouldn't sleep a wink ; )
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I myself have seen an increase in speeds, not sure why but, I went from 8Mb to 18Mb since MJA.