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Hey Everyone,
I have a quick question for anyone who currently has an Adam. It was previously stated in one of the stupid crunchgear interviews with Rohan that the Adam should be easily opened.
I was curious if anyone could open it up, and look at the internals. Mainly, I was curious because everyone keeps saying that sniffer is reporting the internal memory as sdcard1, and if that's the case, it should be easily upgradeable (in my opinion at least) to a larger sd card (~32GB?), which would allow for a significant boost in memory.
We just need to know if that's the truth, or if sniffer just calls it that, and it is infact some internal flash memory that is integrated. And if it is discrete, what type of memory it is. Thanks for any information. I don't think there is a guide to busting this thing open yet, but I think Rohan did it in one of his videos, so maybe I'll try to find that and put it here for anyone to look at.
I don't have one yet, but i know what you are talking about. If you look at that interview it was from over a year ago and I think it was popped open so easily because it was a prototype. Hopefully I'm wrong, but that's my guess.
I know which one you are talking about, but that's not the same one I'm thinking of. I think you are referring to this video...
http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-adam-hands-on-0969281/
But I think there was a more recent one. Which I can't remember where it is. But he talks about how it should be easy to open in this video
http://www.youtube.com/notioninkfan#p/u/2/UAK9Q_sufYk
At about 5 minutes. When they are talking about service for the device.
Dougie2187 said:
Hey Everyone,
Adam should be easily opened.
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engadget.com/photos/notion-ink-atom/#2599625
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Thanks for the post, but I don't think this is a production Adam. This one has the smaller bezel, and no buttons around the screen, so that could easily just be the micro sd card slot.
Got internal photos from the FCC site itself: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/...9;Y2GNI3421A01'
I do see a little possibility of using one of the USB ports and soldering a 32GB thumbdrive (Ubuntu! ) onto it.
A trickier mod will be getting a 4-port USB adaptor and de-solder the two onboard to power the 4-port and the re-solder 2 of the 4-port back to the de-soldered onboards...which leaves us 2 free ports to plug in anything which can be hidden in the casing.
What do guys think? Do let me know if it's feasible?
That FCC link didn't work for me, gives an error. Engadget has a gallery of all the FCC photos. Honestly, I'm a little startled. It looks like something home made rather than a company product.
Engadget asked, what does this say for longevity?
http://www.engadget.com/photos/notion-ink-adam-hits-the-fcc-torn-apart-in-haste-1/#3827437
All mood was gone
Link : engadget.com/2011/01/28/notion-ink-adam-hits-the-fcc-torn-apart-in-haste/
For such work the Chinese comrades and the Indian engineers need to be given on hands, for three years could not make normal motherboard. I do not wish to buy a set « Make itself ».
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That FCC link didn't work for me, gives an error. Engadget has a gallery of all the FCC photos. Honestly, I'm a little startled. It looks like something home made rather than a company product.
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Actually, I rather welcome such 'concept'. The modding would be much easier.
But we must all know that this unit has been deliberately disassembled into parts for FCC inspection. An average user wouldn't even see the innards of his/her gadgets through its shelf life. I mean, things can be tidied up alittle, wires cable-tied or tube shrinked.... but who sees them?
Its not the disassembly that concerns me it's how it was assembled, its not typically so hodgepodge like this. This wasn't a specific fcc model either. It was the same as those shipped to customers.
My concern is with the soldering, the braided and stranded wires and how long they are going to live up to daily use, heat, and movement.
Sure it could be good for a modder, but most of us don't know a great deal about hardware to mod.
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I'd say it looks possible space wise, only thing that would hold you back perhaps would be with regard to the power given to the USBs.
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Considering this is a startup company who probably rented out the cheapest chinese factory to put the thing together, the shoddy work isn't that surprising. Why people are making a deal of this is because of how much their ceo teased and built this tablet up for the past year, only to release the thing with shoddy software, screens, and gum holding it together.
Can you tell I'm disappointed? Lol
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So Adam is uglier then home made star fox 2 carts inside, not a deal breaker if no major issues arise from this.
Can anyone see where the mouse panel use to be connected?
UnNewGuy said:
So Adam is uglier then home made star fox 2 carts inside, not a deal breaker if no major issues arise from this.
Can anyone see where the mouse panel use to be connected?
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I'm thinking it's the ribbon connector beside the SIM card slot.
[Edited: Went through Dragonitte's teardown on the production model, ribbon connector is actually the one to the screens.]
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Its not the disassembly that concerns me it's how it was assembled, its not typically so hodgepodge like this. This wasn't a specific fcc model either. It was the same as those shipped to customers.
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Well, since it has a trackpad on the back, I'd say your assumption is dead wrong. It's obviously not "the same as those shipped to customers". Possibly a prototype that's very near final design. I'm not sure.
The fcc pics are not valid, not the production model
Sorry for yelling. Just have to make people understand that there has not been a teardown of a production model adam yet. Your basing your fears on a prototype and bad reporting. Wait until notioninkhack does there teardown of the device.
Yeah guys, the stupid engadget report looks just like they are jumping to conclusions. I mean look at the external pictures. It even has what looks like a part for a back track pad still which is definitely not on production models.
Also, Rohan has responded to this on the blog.
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Sorry for yelling. Just have to make people understand that there has not been a teardown of a production model adam yet. Your basing your fears on a prototype and bad reporting. Wait until notioninkhack does there teardown of the device.
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The models submitted for FCC testing HAVE to be the retail models.
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The models submitted for FCC testing HAVE to be the retail models.
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No, they dont. FCC does't approve build quality, they approve signal/noise/communication type things. They obviously accept prototypes and not just retail models because in a Q/A on the site it says this:
"Q: My sample is a prototype, I can’t afford to have it destroyed by testing. Can we test FCC without destroying the sample?
A: FCC testing is usually not destructive. Tell your FCC lab what you want them to do with the sample when you are done with it. In many cases, it can be returned in the same shape it was submitted. If the sample fails, modifications to the sample to determine the corrective actions are quite frequently cosmetically damaging – warn the lab if you expect to reuse the sample after testing."
Just because you THINK something is true, doesn't make it true. Not the first time it's happened in just this thread, either.
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No, they dont. FCC does't approve build quality, they approve signal/noise/communication type things. They obviously accept prototypes and not just retail models because in a Q/A on the site it says this:
"Q: My sample is a prototype, I can’t afford to have it destroyed by testing. Can we test FCC without destroying the sample?
A: FCC testing is usually not destructive. Tell your FCC lab what you want them to do with the sample when you are done with it. In many cases, it can be returned in the same shape it was submitted. If the sample fails, modifications to the sample to determine the corrective actions are quite frequently cosmetically damaging – warn the lab if you expect to reuse the sample after testing."
Just because you THINK something is true, doesn't make it true. Not the first time it's happened in just this thread, either.
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Model's submitted to FCC testing are the final product that will hit shelves. Non functioning aspects of it may change (color, slight looks, etc), but all electronics must be final.
It's cute that you think a company can get FCC approval for one item, but ship another item under the same FCC ID.
I've had the Asus Transformer since it was released and got the keyboard as well once it was available. I never really liked the way the Transformer looked with the bezel, and really found the extra keyboard kind of pointless. Anyways, yesterday I went to my local Staples and checked out the Iconia A500 and here are my thoughts, the build quality on the Acer is actually better than the Asus, I didn't care which one weighted more but screen quality was very important to me, luckily, the store had a Transformer on display as well and after some comparing I found the screens to really be on par and viewing angles/colours are just as good to the naked eye on the Acer as it is on the Asus. Overall though I thought the Acer Iconia A500 is a better choice than the Transformer if like me, you don't care for the keyboard. Aesthetically I like the way the Acer looks better and also feel that the build quality is a bit better with the Acer. So I ordered one from Staples and will be selling my Asus Transformer + Dock.
I'm just worried at the frequency of updates from Acer as I've owned other Acer products before and they are not the best when it comes to Support, as well it seems that development for the Transformer is moving a long faster than for the Iconia.
Acer is a directly partnered with Google while Asus is not, but Asus seems to be more community friendly.
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Acer is a directly partnered with Google while Asus is not, but Asus seems to be more community friendly.
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fairly certain your 100% wrong. at least on the "partnered with google" part.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
janduin said:
fairly certain your 100% wrong. at least on the "partnered with google" part.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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under "handset manufactures" acer is on the top of the list.
(provided im reading and understanding this correctly)
eviltuna said:
...I found the screens to really be on par and viewing angles/colours are just as good to the naked eye on the Acer as it is on the Asus. ...
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I can't find a Transformer to compare the screens anywhere. I noticed the Acer's screen is kinda washed out or muddy looking. How did you see the blacks and contrast between the two?
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under "handset manufactures" acer is on the top of the list.
(provided im reading and understanding this correctly)
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I think you miss the point - both Acer and Asus are on that list, hence both are partner with Google (at least for handsets as it says nothing about Tablets).
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under "handset manufactures" acer is on the top of the list.
(provided im reading and understanding this correctly)
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acer is at the top of the list, because the list is in alphabetical order. not because they have any preferential treatment or are more "in with google" than any other member of the OHA
true, that technically is for "cell phones" but thats all android was originally for.
i havent been able to see anything anywhere about tablet manufacturers specifically =\
foxmeister said:
I think you miss the point - both Acer and Asus are on that list, hence both are partner with Google (at least for handsets as it says nothing about Tablets).
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Sony and Samsung are also partners, and we know how fast they roll out their updates right?
Needa916 said:
I can't find a Transformer to compare the screens anywhere. I noticed the Acer's screen is kinda washed out or muddy looking. How did you see the blacks and contrast between the two?
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I didn't really look at the blacks I was more comparing viewing angles and colour reproduction and like I said, I can't see much of a difference between the two tablets. To be honest I didn't really care much for how real the blacks are as this was mainly a gaming/surfing tablet and wont be used to watch a lot of movies, I much rather enjoy watching movies on my 60" TV. Build quality wise the transformer just felt so cheap after holding the Iconia, I also really don't like the power button on my Transformer cause sometimes it takes me a couple presses for it to be recognized, while the power button on the Iconia feels a lot more precise and feels like it will last. Basicly just small annoyances with the Asus, and since the hardware is almost identical as well as software, I really think it comes down to if you need the dock or not, if you don't then by all means go for the Acer, I also got the Acer for a very nice price as well $429.99 for the 32GB version so that was a major plus.
Thanks for your comparison. How did you get the 32GB version at that price? That is a great price.
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That's sort of an apples vs. oranges comparison.
Both are Google partners, but this has nothing to do with how frequently they get updates. The oha is an alliance of Google partners which simply means they officially get Googles android 'code', open or not and Android is built with these companies devices/components/drivers built in.
Those NOT in the alliance must wait on public code (example, viewsonic, etc.).
Regarding updates, recently, Google is encouraging an 18 month update pledge which from what I've read isn't 100% clear, not to me anyway. The pledge seems to be more focussed on handsets, not tablets per se, and really is just a 'best practices' scenario which they are trying to push throughout the collective that is the oha, and while the oha does include tablet makers Acer, Asus, Dell, Toshiba, Samsung, etc. it doesn't mean it applies to tablets since they all do/will also make handsets. Assuming Google DOES intend for it to apply to tablets, that still doesn't guarantee a thing because getting different partners to follow any kind of a timeline just isn't feasible, not even if perks are on the menu.
We can only hope that each company sees fit to adhere to a best practices scenario, spurred maybe by customer 'preference' for/toward those companies who do issue updates on a more frequent and timely basis. For example, the whole Samsung debacle where the carrier Galaxy S phones weren't updating until months after promised caused fallout with many customers - then what happened? Samsung now seems to be the first to update their phones with new firmware, even doing it through Kies (vs. the carriers) and in response, seem to be the hot sellers of the Android smartphone market right now with millions sold in weeks. Likewise, Asus and Motorola are showing that they are on the ball with updates, more than likely in order to entice customers to feel 'safe' with investing in their brands.
I don't expect Acer to let us down....not especially since they seem to be in it for the long haul.
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Those NOT in the alliance must wait on public code (example, viewsonic, etc.).
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Not so sure about that.
Viewsonic say they will be first to market with a 7" Honeycomb tablet, and there is no public Honeycomb source code.
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Dave
Do you see the huge difference in viewing counts between SGT 10.1 and Asus transformer in forums? Although SGT is a better product it seems that Transformer is more popular. I wonder why.
I'm sure it is the fact that the dock and sd support right out of the gate had something to do with it. Not to mention that a lot of folks already had experience with eee products and people tend to lean toward more comfortable environments when given options. I swore off Asus after my last few laptops. Their quality dropped off and the screens were the worst I had had in years. Bad screen=bad experience for me.
Price. Solid tablet.
peare said:
Do you see the huge difference in viewing counts between SGT 10.1 and Asus transformer in forums? Although SGT is a better product it seems that Transformer is more popular. I wonder why.
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I wouldn't say the Sgt is a better product, just a different product. The Sgt is a tablet in it's purest form, whereas the Transformer is more of a hybrid between a tablet/netbook. Your requirements will determine is the best product for your needs.
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Dave
Transformer has been out a lot longer.
Also initially it's a lot more tempting. $100 cheaper tempts a lot of people, not many have seen the build quality reviews, nor have they seen that Asus is heavily backordered on all accessories, even simple critical stuff like sync/charge cables. Lose/damage your cable and you're screwed.
Samsung has the same proprietary cable problem as Asus, but at least there is availability of replacements, not just from Samsung but from third parties.
This was the main reason that drove me away from the Transformer.
Aaron636r said:
Price. Solid tablet.
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Exactly, cheaper product in more hands
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Lets not forget that the Tab 10.1 isn't even available in all markets yet either (it's still a month off for Canada, for instance).
Look at it this way... People come to forums primarily to complain and get solutions to problems. If they're getting more posts it may not be a good thing.
TabGuy said:
Look at it this way... People come to forums primarily to complain and get solutions to problems. If they're getting more posts it may not be a good thing.
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+1 on this. I hate to say it, but that's what brought me back here. It had been so long since I had posted in the forum I couldn't rememer my account password. I had to open a new one. It's all good. I needed to be more social. I usually just get the info I need without posting. Plenty of people asking the same questions more than once on these forums. Hence the read forums only on my part. That and I can come across rather harsh sometimes so, i keep it to myself. But, over the years I have learned more people generally mean more problems.
T120ted said:
But, over the years I have learned more people generally mean more problems.
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It's only partially true though - more people often also means more popular/widespread too. If it didn't, by post count alone, the Huawei Ideos X7, Notion Ink Adam, and Advent Vega would clearly be the tablets with the least issues!
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Another factor is that many generic Android questions get answered in the earlier forums and become more device specific in the newer (latest device) forums.
Since there´s no dedicated section for the A510 (at least I can´t find any) I decided to ask my question here. Many apologies for this.
Does anybody knows if the A510 come with a Gorilla glass I or II or without?
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The Acer homepage as well as GSMarena didn´t have mention of what display type is on the A510
naira1 said:
Since there´s no dedicated section for the A510 (at least I can´t find any) I decided to ask my question here. Many apologies for this.
Does anybody knows if the A510 come with a Gorilla glass I or II or without?
Edit:
The Acer homepage as well as GSMarena didn´t have mention of what display type is on the A510
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Well, considering nobody has one, and nobody has done a review on one, and Acer only showed a glimpse of one earlier at the CES convention, I would say....
Who knows....
I'm hoping for gorilla glass VI. After seeing them drop a 20kg from 50m on that tab. Wow! Man, the glass didn't have a scratch one!!!
.....tablet was flattened to a pancake though...
The tablet would be a good steal if it comes with a gorilla glass.
Chat with Acer
I decided to ask Acer directly because info on web is unclear. Here are the relevant parts of the chat:
Gayathri S: Hi, my name is Gayathri S. How may I help you?
Beth: I would like to know if the new A510 has Gorilla GLass like the A500 does?
(pause, wait, get coffee, wait for info to be looked up, voila!)
Gayathri S: Now a days all the models in Iconia Tablet has Gorilla Glass display.
Beth: Excellent news! It's unclear and some reviewers have speculated that it does not.
Beth: Any word on actual shipping dates?
Gayathri S: unfortunately, I am sure about the shipment dates. Once it confirmed you will get the information through online.
Beth: Ok, thank you for your assistance.
So, take it for what it is I'm hopefully my amazon pre-order will ship soon.
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I decided to ask Acer directly because info on web is unclear. Here are the relevant parts of the chat:
Gayathri S: Now a days all the models in Iconia Tablet has Gorilla Glass display.
Beth: Excellent news! It's unclear and some reviewers have speculated that it does not.
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That´s a funny response. Not confirming if it has gorilla glass or not but making a general assumption.
Well waiting for the availability in Germany as it seem it´s now available in France and Luxemburg.
yep,
i just got mine in france yesterday.
some hundreds of tabs were delivered by acer all over france, really tricky to get one, with pre-ordering only.
only one vendor has, nothing online.
playing with my new toy, waiting for a dedicated place and rooting solution !
BENETNATH said:
yep,
i just got mine in france yesterday.
some hundreds of tabs were delivered by acer all over france, really tricky to get one, with pre-ordering only.
only one vendor has, nothing online.
playing with my new toy, waiting for a dedicated place and rooting solution !
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Awesome!
I'm planning to buy this tablet also, let's hope they are able to root it.
BENETNATH said:
yep,
i just got mine in france yesterday.
some hundreds of tabs were delivered by acer all over france, really tricky to get one, with pre-ordering only.
only one vendor has, nothing online.
playing with my new toy, waiting for a dedicated place and rooting solution !
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Have u noticed any issue with the WiFi or GPS ala Transformer Prime?
naira1 said:
Have u noticed any issue with the WiFi or GPS ala Transformer Prime?
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Zero issues following a review from a user in the Amazon store.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1PGJ6...e=UTF8&ASIN=B007E8TWPU&nodeID=541966&store=pc
Well let me start off by saying I am quite pleased to be the first one to be able to rate this awesome tablet. I've owned the original Acer Iconia A500, the Asus Transformer, the Motorola Xoom and the Samsung Galaxy Tab and liked them all, but this, obviously is the next generation of tablets. First off, the price blows the (somewhat inferior) Transformer Prime out of the water. Insiders (as of 4-16-12) have told me that the Prime has been discontinued this month but news has not hit yet. They will be making this up by producing the T300 which will be a prime at less money the way it should have been from the beginning.
This tablet does everything it should with the amazing speed of quad core tegra3. The screen is crystal clear and the viewing angles are quite deep. There is plenty of memory with a cheap way to get 64gb out of this by getting a microsd card (32gb). The wi-fi is strong and the gps has zero issues with lock or signal. Sound is very nice in stereo and sounds expensive for such an inexpensive unit. All in all a great buy and you should not hesitate to buy this for its amazingly inexpensive price!
Update: The tablet, hooked up to a 56" lcd tv streaming hd movies works perfect with no issues.
I also had it hooked up to a wi-fi hotspot from my phone through Sprint to use google maps in the car and it works very well.
I already had a chance to drop it on the ground accidentally and it fell screen first onto pavement and not a scratch on it. I wish there were already cases and protectors for it but have to wait on those. Again, I wouldn't hesitate. That video review right below my review seems to be of a defective unit.
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no issues at all.
i got a replacement one, because the first was defective (random reboot, freezings..)
but the new one works perfectly..
The wifi is good but my GPS doesn't work at all. I ran a speed test with the speed test.net app connected to a cable connected wifi router and it averaged 10 to 11mbs. Only had 3 out of 4 bars. The GPS issue kinda sux cause my a500 had a bad GPS unit in it to. I always have my phone but still. May send it back for repairs .. and I think they have already found a rooting method I'm just waiting to decide if I'm gonna send it back or not before I try it
No lucky
My a501 was quite good on gps, but the a510 is definitively better. I've got a capture even inside my house.
This tablet has been out for a while now, it would be much appreciated if the mod in forum can get a dedicated thread for the acer iconia tab a510.
Its not fun going through the Tab A500 thread for information and review of A510
Iconia Tab 510 forum please
I second that.
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Its not fun going through the Tab A500 thread for information and review of A510
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Agreed. I just ordered an A510 and would love a dedicated place to learn and share about it...
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Agreed. I just ordered an A510 and would love a dedicated place to learn and share about it...
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I second that too
then PLEASE,
add a +1 there :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
BENETNATH said:
then PLEASE,
add a +1 there :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
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Done
I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?
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I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?
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Seriously, how could Google not understand that their products sell? It started with the Nexus 4 and it's been the same EVERY SINGLE RELEASE.
They do this on purpose it seems, because come holiday season, it's magically available again. Plus, the 32gb Silver XL is still available, how is that possible?
Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
ie white casing cracking, black glass being weaker, screens with strange hues, cameras with halos, slower ram, batteries buldging ect..
Black Xl 128 was showing up in stock every 6-7 hrs for 20mins. Then it was Silver Xl 128.. Why not keep allowing preorders and fill orders as they become available?
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Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
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Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.
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Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.
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Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.
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Unless this in stock tracker is wrong, and I have been watching it since it started tracking and personally checked stock on googles site and confirmed most of the time, youre possibly right
Either that or few come back in stock from cancelled or orders that didnt go through.
http://www.nowinstock.net/electronics/mobilephones/unlocked/googlepixel/
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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NEW IMPROVED PIXEL with 5.7" screen and stylus? hmmmm. before you realize it's too late KA-BOOM!
Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.
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Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.
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Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?
As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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ippikiokami said:
As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.
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Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?
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Belimawr said:
the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.
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While I'm really enjoying the PIxel and it's fast as crap. My wife and I have had Notes since the 2 so yeah pretty much on the same boat. I would have a Note 7 right now if it weren't for the chance of death. Great example too.. Everyone also should say as they are presenting their cameras.. SONY SENSOR. The iphone , pixel, even many Samsung's in the past use them along with most of the phones cameras in the world.
ippikiokami said:
As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.
ippikiokami said:
Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.
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Huawei is plastered on the back of the 6P.
I don't know enough about Blackberry to comment.
The only difference between Apple and Google in this case is that Apple doesn't say that their iPhones are built by Apple...at least I don't think so. They don't mention Foxxcon, but they also don't say they built it themselves.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/26/apple_wait_wait_iphone7plus/
To show google isn't the only one having problems meeting demand.
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stevew84 said:
Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
Anyways, anyone remember the G1? It was the HTC Dream (first phone with Android), it had no HTC logos either. Most it had was T-mobile in front and "with Google" on back.. (I still have mine)
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It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
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What Google is doing would be as if Ben & Jerry claimed that they make the cup which contains the ice cream.
I know that's a horrible analogy, but I thought it was funny.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Developers options > Picture colour mode
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