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Hey guys,
here's my review of the iconia tab and my thoughts on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ApcE0dLLF8&
Could you guys let me know if i should keep it or send it back and find a tablet with unlocked bootloaders?
also, any tips on the reviewing would be appreciated too

sanjeezy91 said:
Hey guys,
here's my review of the iconia tab and my thoughts on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ApcE0dLLF8&
Could you guys let me know if i should keep it or send it back and find a tablet with unlocked bootloaders?
also, any tips on the reviewing would be appreciated too
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Keep it , until the honeycomb code will be released there will be no good roms for any tablet
And its just about time for working recovery for our iconia.

second guessing yourself
Sending a item back or not.I do believe that you should think about what you have.does the iconia do what you bought it to do.if you are thinking you bought the wrong tablet you will likely never be totally content with the iconia.
For me I can't seem to put mine down. So no second guessing here. Just buying time and the kinks and customs roms will be Available
Erica

Thank you guys for your replies, im gaining more and more confidence in this tablet.
@erica i am actually content with it now but i get bored with technology alarmingly fast and I tend to splurge. for example, my phone keeps me entertained because of all the development. Before I got it I was spending way too much moving from phone to phone.
I was reading about both the transformer and A500 when i bought it and mixed myself up and thought that it was actually Acer who had released the source code and not Asus.
....doesnt help that their names are so similar either LOL

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For meI don't get bored with tech stuff often unless its bad device.I bought a Archos 9 it was lame heavy and slow. But this I have loved it. I use it on the couch in the van sitting at doc office.even onced used it to look up price on something at walmart. And showed sales person and got better price.
I have a cheap cell phone on a even cheaper network. So to me its not having the latest and greatest.I have a Acer 11.6 inch well gateway notebook and its flawless and well built.so I think this tabwill do my for very long time.
I just wish it did not look such a guys device. If you find a nice femmme case out there I would be so happy
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looked up a price in walmart eh? lol yeah that is handy, did u tether it to your phone? and yeah i know what u mean, the more i use this thing, the more i love it, like i just used it to write a long email to someone with no form of discomfort, this is not the case with the galaxy tab i have.
plus the screen is an absolute delight. I dont want to deal with the transformer's light bleeding. just gonna keep this one for the length of my 14 days to see how much in love i fall with it lol. then i'll make a decision, but its looking pretty good at the moment.

Pre order Toshiba Thrive

If anyone is interested, the Toshiba Thrive is now pre order status from a few sites including Toshiba main website and amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004I43F9C

SR45 said:
If anyone is interested, the Toshiba Thrive is now pre order status from a few sites including Toshiba main website and amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004I43F9C
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got the email too, just too bad its only the 3 wifi versions of different capacities...
shipping mid-July for those who are interested...
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c...ECCY&cm_mmc=Email-_-broadcast-_-TABLET-_-ECCY

Am I missing something? This is the 10.1 forum and not the Toshiba one.

cosimoss said:
Am I missing something? This is the 10.1 forum and not the Toshiba one.
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Yes it is, but, always keep your options open and help others do the same, not to mention its best to compare before jumping into something and not have buyers remorse. This is noticeable on all forums including this one. No big deal..... We get some good feedback from those that have other tablets and nice to exchange ideas and have links to other offerings.
Was looking at the IPad some time ago, and decided that it was too proprietary to the Steve Jobs organization.
Than looked at the Xoom and Notion, but both had issues and still do not have what I really wanted besides a some what thin tablet and members suggested some other tablet coming out....
Looked hard at the Transformer and it to has issues at start up with the screen bleed and speakers, not to mention the screen is not up to par with the Galaxy.
Looking hard at the Galaxy now, but the lack of ports is a disapointment, but not a deal breaker.
Now the newest offering from Toshiba. Looks as if it has what I like in the full size ports, battery replacement, price, but the thickness of the tab is sad but it to is not a deal breaker.
Getting locked into something as these new tablets, I have noticed over and over again, the early adaptors are returning them for some thing else.

Well put OP.
I'm looking for a tablet after returning a Transformer, although I haven't quite discounted buying another one. I'm hanging on .... and on .... and on ..... for Samsung to get their act together and announce a UK price, definite spec and release date, but I have to say my patience is wearing very thin!
I've looked at the Xoom, good solid build but piss poor European support as far as I can tell. I don't really like the look of the Acer Iconia so I've passed on that one, the Toshiba is another contender but looking at the recent pics, I'm not as keen as I was earlier. Best to see it in the flesh I think.
That leaves me with the GT 10.1, the hype sounds good and it looks smart in the pics, a bit disappointed with the expected lack of slots and ports though. The other contender is the Asus Transformer (again), as long as I can get a decent unit. Once bitten twice shy though.
The important factor will be the price difference between the TF and the GT 10.1, it'll be a tough decision but at the end of the day whichever tablet I decide on, it's still a gadget/toy and I can only get away with spending so much as I'd like to remain married.

[q] wanna buy new tab

hey guys
planing to buy new acer iconia a500 tab
but i have couple of questions before buying it
as samsung tab 10.1 : does it lags too much?
and how is the touch interface as compared to ipad2 ??

It not lags too much. All tegra 2. but i suggest you to buy galaxy tab 10.1. It feels so good and the screen is much better than a500. At last, if u have enough money to buy an iPad,don't buy android tablet. There are too many problems with it. Due to my poor English, it's just a suggestion. Maybe my explanation is not clear.

jackie099 said:
It not lags too much. All tegra 2. but i suggest you to buy galaxy tab 10.1. It feels so good and the screen is much better than a500. At last, if u have enough money to buy an iPad,don't buy android tablet. There are too many problems with it. Due to my poor English, it's just a suggestion. Maybe my explanation is not clear.
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No, your explanation is VERY clear. You just haven't a clue what you're talking about

if you want to be sure, i think the best is to go to a store and try the different tablets you may be interested in (iconia, galaxy, ipad).
everyone has its own tastes and its only a few models for you to try (3).
all i can say is that it's worth its price (a little less than 350 euros in France for example) and that when (if?) ICS is ported to iconia (with hardware acceleration of course) it will be smoother than it is now

WAIT FOR TEGEA 3.WAIT FOR TEGRA.
Did I mention if you wait a month or two tetra 3 will be hitting stores.This will drop prices on tetra 2 devices.and offer a even better android experience if you are willing to spend the cash.
Goodluck and .wait wait wait.
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The Iconia is excellent. Mine doesn't lag at all, even on stock it didn't. Also the touch interface is just as good as the IPad2.
kjy2010 said:
No, your explanation is VERY clear. You just haven't a clue what you're talking about
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Seconded. I love that in one thread he says that, then in another he says how brilliant Acer are...

kjy2010 said:
No, your explanation is VERY clear. You just haven't a clue what you're talking about
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Thank you. I heard that A701 will come out next year.
http://cn.engadget.com/tag/acer+iconia+tab+a700/
The screen will be 1920x1200!

jackie099 said:
Thank you. I heard that A701 will come out next year.
http://cn.engadget.com/tag/acer+iconia+tab+a700/
The screen will be 1920x1200!
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It's purported that the next Samsung tab will sport 25?? X 15?? Screen Res, and if the rumor is true it will be out this coming year as well

kjy2010 said:
It's purported that the next Samsung tab will sport 25?? X 15?? Screen Res, and if the rumor is true it will be out this coming year as well
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Good. Which do u prefer? Acer or samsung?

jackie099 said:
Good. Which do u prefer? Acer or samsung?
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If i were you i would stop posting in the acer forum, don't think you have any knowledge about what you are posting about, all three tab in question is in my household. The acer can hold its ground with the best of them with, For starters i think acer dev's are more advance than sammy's...

The currently available Samsung tablet is like the ipad.It will break looking at it to hard.
So in sure they both will fallowhe same suit on the new coming out tabs.Idont like having the glass go to total outer redge one tiny drop or bangnd its broken.acer has more protection and feels stronger in your hand.the saw goes for comparison on computer laptops made from both companies.
Get acer no doubt.

okay finally ordered iconia

aman11dhanpat said:
okay finally ordered iconia
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Good boy or guy if your old enough to be.
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aman11dhanpat said:
okay finally ordered iconia
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fasten your seatbelt, ICS is becoming more than a dream for iconia (2 devs have "very early alpha" booting images, obviously without hardware acceleration ).
i bet in less than a month, when you think about this thread, you will say yourself you paid the right price for a "flying tablet"

will the Gateway TAB TP a60 run ICS, as gateway is a subsidiary (sorta) of acer?... I just bought one for a decent price but it might go back to the store...my sister is looking for something to take notes at school and to do basic tasks on, either she will use this or the blackberry playbook (with an android app loader handrite notes program...if it works)

it is an awesome tab
seriously honey comb is a whole new GENERATION of android
also is ICS is coming then its more than awesome

kjy2010 said:
No, your explanation is VERY clear. You just haven't a clue what you're talking about
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+1 on that.. this is still the best tablet in my opinion. I even bough the thinkpad tablet with the active digitizer and returned it to stick with my iconia.

After enjoying my Nook Color with CM7 for about 8-10 months, I decided I needed a fully functional tablet. After striking out at Staples this morning, I found a refurb with a case on Best Buy's website for $270. Can't wait to get Thor's ROM up and running on this bad boy once I get it on Wednesday.

Go with 10.1 tab or Asus prime?

Really like Samsung.. Have the Galaxy s2 skyrocket.. love it. and was thinking of getting the 10.1 tab , but heard the Asus prime is "the tab"..
Have heard issues with qc with asus and with the quad core being the first just alittle skiddish about it..
Im sure Best Buy will put the Galaxy stuff on sale soon..
I have heard great things of the Galaxy tabs..

What do you want? If you really want a quad-core, wait for new tablets first. If you don't need/want quad-core, get the GTab.

Just get the prime, seriously.

Here's what I would do:
1) post questions in the Q+A forum
2) read the forum and find the other thread ON THE SAME PAGE that asked the EXACT SAME QUESTION: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383993
3) make up my own damn mind.

There are like three other threads discussing this same question.
If you have to have a tablet now, then yes, the Prime is the one to buy (assuming you want Wi-Fi only). But, like you said, Asus is a low to mid-level manufacturer and they had problems with the first Transformer and that was a much less complex device. If you read what's going on over at the Prime forum there's potential issues with Wi-Fi strength/range and some question as to just how many units will actually be made available this year. A ton of pre-orders were canceled and Amazon no longer has it listed for sale.
CES is January 11. There have been leaks about both Acer and Lenovo quad-core tablets. Both are supposed to have more RAM (2GB) and higher res displays (1900x1200) then the Prime. I wouldn't be surprised to see them announced in almost production-ready form at CES. Other than being the first Teg3 and having a dock, there's really nothing remarkable about the Prime. It's larger than the G-Tab, iPad2, and new Toshiba Excite. It has the same 1280x800 screen resolution and 1GB of RAM as all the first gen tablets. It also has mono-speakers (they're on one side) and only supports the 2.4GHz Wi-Fi band. I think all the people racing to buy a Prime that already have an existing tablet are going to be disappointed when better featured next-gen tablets start to be released.
If you can wait until February-ish I think either the Lenovo or Acer are probably going to be better choices if for no other reason than having higher-res displays. They'll also ship with ICS pre-installed. But for now, solely because of the Teg3 processor (and keyboard dock if you care), the Prime's the best available choice. You're other choice could be to watch for refurb deals on the G-Tab. They've been as low as $329 shipped for the holidays. You could use it for a few months to see what your options are and then sell it on eBay/CL for close to what you paid for it.

Get the gtab. There is nothing revolutionary about the prime. If you got a little patience, you'll wait two three months and get some of the real next generation tablets.
The galaxy tablet handles everything except 1080p, if you do have a huge collection of that, get something else.
You get one awesome screen, very nice stereo speakers and solid build quality.

slack04 said:
Here's what I would do:
1) post questions in the Q+A forum
2) read the forum and find the other thread ON THE SAME PAGE that asked the EXACT SAME QUESTION: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383993
3) make up my own damn mind.
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Nice.. thank you for your informative post

GalaxySkyrocket500 said:
Nice.. thank you for your informative post
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If you're still in the remorse period for your Skyrocket you have another option. AT&T's got a deal going where you buy a G-Tab 8.9 and get a Skyrocket free. So if you paid either $149 or $249 for the Skyrocket you'd end up spending either $330 or $230 for the Tab. It's also got a Qualcomm chip which is faster/better then the Teg2 in the Wi-Fi version. You don't have to keep the data plan on the Tab either. If you want to sell it down the road it should also hold its value better than a Wi-Fi Tab.

I would say Asus based on the specs but based on their past history I'd avoid them and go with the Samsung Tab....
My. 02

BarryH_GEG said:
If you're still in the remorse period for your Skyrocket you have another option. AT&T's got a deal going where you buy a G-Tab 8.9 and get a Skyrocket free. So if you paid either $149 or $249 for the Skyrocket you'd end up spending either $330 or $230 for the Tab. It's also got a Qualcomm chip which is faster/better then the Teg2 in the Wi-Fi version. You don't have to keep the data plan on the Tab either. If you want to sell it down the road it should also hold its value better than a Wi-Fi Tab.
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I saw that deal.. I have had my SR for about 6 weeks now..

raqball said:
I would say Asus based on the specs but based on their past history I'd avoid them and go with the Samsung Tab....
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That is what I am thinking.. I will just use my tablet for fun really.. root it, custom roms.. customize it.. not for work or anything..
I mean , does anybody need 4 cores?

raqball said:
I would say Asus based on the specs but based on their past history I'd avoid them and go with the Samsung Tab....
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I would avoid Asus too who needs updates, micro sd slot, hdmi port etc,etc,........ Look at Samsung they never roll out updates....They barely got 3.2 and 4.0 is just around the corner.

I cant tell if you guys are being sarcastic, but serious advice, i got my tab about 6 weeks ago and Im having tablet envy because the prime has more storage for the same money and its faster. I've had to do a lot of customization to mine for it to feel fast.
And if you plan on listening to music or watch any kind of movies on your tab then you will want to have 32gb minimum with MORE storage if you like to watch in 720p.
Having a usb flash sticking out the bottom of my tab doesnt feel right and im always paranoid im going to snap it

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I would avoid Asus too who needs updates, micro sd slot, hdmi port etc,etc,........
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They aren't the only one that has tablets with ports. The quality of the TF1 was questionable and the Prime either has or had Wi-Fi issues and it's not even released yet.
Look at Samsung they never roll out updates....They barely got 3.2 and 4.0 is just around the corner.
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I have a SGS2 and it's been updated like a dozen times. I don't know why they're so slow with tablets. They regionalize their products and offer 3G versions which Asus doesn't so that could explain some of the delay. As Google's platform partner for ICS, the Tab should get ICS faster and better then other brands. Samsung UK announced the SGS2 will get ICS next month. Let's hope the Tab's right behind it. It makes sense for Samsung to get ICS on the Tab quickly to extend its selling life in the face of competition that's supposed to be announced next month at ICS. The Toshiba Excite, a direct competitor to the G-Tab, will ship with ICS when it launches in February so hopefully Samsung will respond before then.

dazz87 said:
I would avoid Asus too who needs updates, micro sd slot, hdmi port etc,etc,........ Look at Samsung they never roll out updates....They barely got 3.2 and 4.0 is just around the corner.
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I agree with the updates comment but Samsung has gotten a little better in that area...
I don't need usb or hdmi slots... Some do, some don't but I'm in the don't department..
Not a good sign when a manufacturer with a questionable quality history has to delay its product before its even released because of quality issues....
My $.02

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Not a good sign when a manufacturer with a questionable quality history has to delay its product before its even released because of quality issues....
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And not even agree internally on whether or not the problem exists. Asus Canada notified resellers that shipments were delayed indefinitely while a fix for poor Wi-Fi range was implemented. Asus U.S. said the launch is occuring as announced on 12/19. The Prime forum should be entertaining once people have them in their hands.

You can't accuse Asus of a delay when, in fact, they are expected to meet their US ship dates (and we'll find out in two days, won't we?). Out of *all* of the reviewers and websites who reviewed pre-pro and production models of the Transformer Prime, precisely ONE reported any sort of Wi-fi issue at all (anandtech). Hard to believe that, if there was a widespread issue, only one reviewer ever encountered it.

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You can't accuse Asus of a delay when, in fact, they are expected to meet their US ship dates (and we'll find out in two days, won't we?). Out of *all* of the reviewers and websites who reviewed pre-pro and production models of the Transformer Prime, precisely ONE reported any sort of Wi-fi issue at all (anandtech). Hard to believe that, if there was a widespread issue, only one reviewer ever encountered it.
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Then you should run out and be one of the first to get one. Asus had a poor track record for h/w on the TF1 and the Prime's a more complicated device. It may be the second coming of Christ but like many here I'll wait to see what Acer, Lenovo, and Samsung announce at CES on January 11. The Prime's the first quad-core, it won't be the only quad-core and with a G-Tab I love I'm in no rush and don't feel like being part of Asus' QC process.

Actually, yes, I ordered one weeks ago from Best Buy, so hopefully I will be the first one to get one. Having played with a Samsung, I'm certainly not interested in anything they'll be crowing about in January.

J-Mo said:
Having played with a Samsung, I'm certainly not interested in anything they'll be crowing about in January.
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I know I should not feed a troll.... BUT....

[Q] Is the Thrive dock connector the same as the Excite?

Wanted to see if the docking ports are the same or if they had been changed on the newer models...
If they are the same I wanted to try the Thrive multi-dock with my Excite 7.7 to hopefully be able to use the HDMI/USB ports on there...
Thanks!

bleclair said:
Wanted to see if the docking ports are the same or if they had been changed on the newer models...
If they are the same I wanted to try the Thrive multi-dock with my Excite 7.7 to hopefully be able to use the HDMI/USB ports on there...
Thanks!
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In case you don't know this already, I just found out the hard way that the answer is "close, but no"

Thanks, already eBayed the Excite 7.7.... :laugh:
Toshiba did release a HDMI dock for the Excite 7.7 recently though...
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/adet.to?poid=2000035071

Is the Excite 10 dock connector the same as the excite 7???

redandblack1287 said:
In case you don't know this already, I just found out the hard way that the answer is "close, but no"
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Where did you post about this? I looked in your posts but could not find it. Seems they are the same connector, but would not surprise me if not. Thanks.
Update:
Found another poster elsewhere with the sad details. Toshiba made a great tablet with the E 7.7, but a SUCKY ecosystem. I guess since they priced themselves out of the market, it is what it is. Still like my 32GB none the less, but got it for $380.
http://forums.toshiba.com/t5/Excite-Tablets/Multi-Dock-and-the-Excite/td-p/345700

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Where did you post about this? I looked in your posts but could not find it. Seems they are the same connector, but would not surprise me if not. Thanks.
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Found another poster elsewhere with the sad details. Toshiba made a great tablet with the E 7.7, but a SUCKY ecosystem. I guess since they priced themselves out of the market, it is what it is. Still like my 32GB none the less, but got it for $380.
http://forums.toshiba.com/t5/Excite-Tablets/Multi-Dock-and-the-Excite/td-p/345700
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It costs to much, limited accessories with even more limited supply and way to high priced, and locked it up so people who want to root or unlock or dev on it can't. The last is the deal breaker for me, otherwise it would have been one of my first devices to look at vs the n7 or samsungs.
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