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Trying hard to get used to the 16x9. Also, the weight of it at times I really notice after holding it in bed for a decent amount of time. Also the fact I did not get a data plan and it cost me $853. When I know a wifi only version is coming out that will be quite a bit cheaper. Honeycomb is taking some time to get used to. There aren't many apps for it, so I find myself getting bored. All i seem to be doing with it is web and facebook stuff. I think may return for ipad 2.
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Trying hard to get used to the 16x9. Also, the weight of it at times I really notice after holding it in bed for a decent amount of time. Also the fact I did not get a data plan and it cost me $853. When I know a wifi only version is coming out that will be quite a bit cheaper. Honeycomb is taking some time to get used to. There aren't many apps for it, so I find myself getting bored. All i seem to be doing with it is web and facebook stuff. I think may return for ipad 2.
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Of course it's gonna take some getting used to its a new OS. Obviously there aren't gonna be many apps, as it just came out a week ago.
Sitting here looking at an iPad, a Samsung Galaxy Tab and the Xoom.
Xoom is a bit too bulky. Love the screen size. Waiting for some more apps (I know it just came out, but there are apps on the Galaxy Tab that I want on the Xoom).
Not sure the Xoom is hanging around.
mine is going back for sure
then take it back. What makes people think that we care if you choose so and so over something else. You know what you want so get it. Xoom isn't cutting for you then get something you wwill be happy with. No nneed to share with everyone.
I hope HTC makes a large Honeycomb tablet. I completely ignored them after the release of the HTC Flyer because I didn't appreciate the screen size, and it didn't run Honeycomb. However it was beautiful, and even had a unibody design. The Flyer was definitely a nicely designed tablet, and I do want to see what HTC does with a larger device.
They seem to be the only company that creates Android products (well, Motorola too) that focuses heavily on build quality and design. I assume if they made a larger Honeycomb tablet it would actually look up-to-par with an iPad. The silver Xoom somewhat does. This post is somewhat entirely irrelevant =/
the Xoom is supposed to be a media powerhouse. Which is why the screen is so big. It is a bit heavy, but it hasn't botherd me that much in this last week.
My girlfriend said if I return mine I can go to sunfest in florida next month. Sunfest is going to be awesome with lots of big names including sublime with Rome and ziggy marley. I am 1200 miles away from west palm beach where it will be held. I want to go so bad.
I am not returning my Xoom.
For anyone complaining about it I can see your reasons. I really can. But these were all issues I knew before spending 800$ on it. I knew these issues because I spent lots of Time thinking about it and evaluating my options before I payed almost 900 for it.
If you did not do this you are a fool for spending that amount of money without allowing your brain to process information beforehand.
Someone remind me how many apps were on ios when the iPhone launched please.
Already returned mine. It is a nice product its just not ready for the market. The price is ridiculous for what it offers.
Great, since you are both getting rid of your Xooms you can go to a different XDA forum now. Yay.
Is there any reason why this couldn't have gone into the other threads like this? I don't know why the 6 (yes, random number) people with the same nit-picky issues can't hold each other's hand through the return process in the same thread. It's not even buyer's remorse. It's not being able to put your finger on what you want upfront, and faulting the thing you bought for being the way it's clearly advertised.
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Is there any reason why this couldn't have gone into the other threads like this? I don't know why the 6 (yes, random number) people with the same nit-picky issues can't hold each other's hand through the return process in the same thread. It's not even buyer's remorse. It's not being able to put your finger on what you want upfront, and faulting the thing you bought for being the way it's clearly advertised.
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They have to let everyone know they are returning it.
HEY GUYS I DON'T LIKE THE XOOM, I AM RETURNING IT OKAY. I'LL COME BACK EVERY NOW AND THEN TO TELL YOU WHY I TOOK IT BACK.
I think these types of threads are stupid.
Anyone who would return their Xoom because someone else doesn't like is an idiot. Now if you are trying to get more information because maybe you don't understand how a the platform works that is different.
So if you want us to help you understand how Honeycomb and the Moto Xoom work that's great. On the other hand if you just don't like it no one really cares. The only person I need to like my Xoom is me and maybe my girlfriend.
Complaining about how people post their complaints won't do any good. They will post it regardless... you might as well ignore it and move on. If I actually had a Xoom and didn't like it, I would sure as hell post in a thread (maybe not a new one) exactly why I don't like it.
All that I'm afraid of is that the Honeycomb OS itself will never make it past the "nice-try" stage. I love the Xoom so far but it IS a risky business right now. I am convinced that other HC tablets will push the demand for apps and updated software but can "we" win the fight? The only time I would be sorry to have purchased the Xoom is when support for it stops and it becomes an orphan. Other than that - still have to break the news to my wifey
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All that I'm afraid of is that the Honeycomb OS itself will never make it past the "nice-try" stage. I love the Xoom so far but it IS a risky business right now. I am convinced that other HC tablets will push the demand for apps and updated software but can "we" win the fight? The only time I would be sorry to have purchased the Xoom is when support for it stops and it becomes an orphan. Other than that - still have to break the news to my wifey
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This is a google experience tablet with a brand new os and your worried about support. Lol
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Well, I was reminded of the early 90s when I tried to stick with OS/2 instead of giving in to Windows/DOS... Was a short period of resistance!!! LOL
I love my Xoom. No tablet will be able to compare to the Xoom this year..ipad 2 is just big ipod touch 4th gen.the galaxy tab 10.1 is even more of a joke.The only tablet that will come close to the Xoom is the Toshiba tablet.
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FWIW, I'm keeping mine.
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Complaining about how people post their complaints won't do any good. They will post it regardless... you might as well ignore it and move on. If I actually had a Xoom and didn't like it, I would sure as hell post in a thread (maybe not a new one) exactly why I don't like it.
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Ok. That information would be useful if:
- Your Xoom was suffering from a defect of design (iPhone 4 antenna) that is probably shared with other Xooms.
- If in your research of how the product was understood to work, you found something nobody else had, or were commenting about an issue to help bring about a consensus.
- If there was some way of showing whether or not you were a knee-jerk purchaser, or someone that bothered to take 2 minutes and Google the Xoom before you bought it. This point has been exhausted, but buying a first generation device with an OS whose official innards weren't released to the overwhelming majority of developers even two weeks ago isn't for everyone. It's your own responsibility to research a product. The Xoom is exactly what Motorola said it was, and every issue everyone has ever posted other than nuances to the software was a click away from before the thing was even released. If someone wants to make threads about how stupid they were for spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on something before checking it out, I'll thumbs up those all day.
TLDR - Some of the Xoom's features were advertised as "released in the coming weeks" before the product's release. This is not news, or worth sharing as a reason for your return to the store.
Edit: Just thought of something. The video playback is annoying and was kind of a surprise. I'll totally give you that one. But with some playing around and effort I'm really satisfied with the quality.
returning it for ipad 2 .
I keep reading post about people being "scared" that acer isn't going to update as fast as they would like. Or their is no Restore yet, bootloaders and other minor annoyances.
One thing I see is request for USB charging. Will never happen, the Acer's dual 3650mah batteries would never get charged under the .5 load that a usb port can supply, I doubt a usb port would even be able to turn the machine on. A quick look at the ac adapter shows it's putting out 12v and 1.5amp and that's capable of charging my machine from about 25% to 100% in about 2 hours. Thats very respectable in my eyes since I can run a full 10-12 hours with really moderate to heavy use (Video's/Music/Games) wifi always on and screen set to auto brightness.
Besides I didn't buy my acer for the software that it came with, I bought it because of the hardware. The Xoom Asus and Acer are pretty much twins as far as respective hardware. If your going to nit pick something, the xoom's SD card doesnt even function, the acer's does. And the Asus transformer lacks USB host all together if I understand correctly, I can't begin to imagine the fun things that could be done when the dev's start tweaking the kernel and making 3rd party apps as well that are capable of using both usb ports on the A500, esp if the mini usb is capable of being switched on as a host as well.. (god i wish i could program my ideas)
As far as the locked boot loader issue goes, it'll get unlocked, as well as recovery, it will come. Even if Acer decided to be a complete ass and never reaveal any flaws in their code base, someone will get it accomplished.
I got the HTC inspire as soon as it was released for AT&T, no recovery, locked bootloader. I lurked on the fourms and saw a mirror of the exact same thing here, i'm scared... im returning mine for this, this or that. Now look at the inspire; there are tons of rom's, and dev support is flourshing.
I'm staying with my A500. I've had it 1 week this Friday, and my until has had no battery drain issues, gps or any other bad issues I've read others having. i have rooted mine, renamed phone / telephony .apk > .bak, and it did help battery some. For the most part I wonder what some of these people are running in the background. (even live wallpapers can seriously strain the battery with the device idle. A good example is the Asus water live wallpaper that has been hacked to work with the A500)
My biggest problem with mine is the market refusing to download and install apps I find until I kill the MyApps service and task, then it works for a few downloads, then refuses again..
I can't see returning something with fairly minor software annoyances that will eventually get fixed anyway. Now granted I love to get under the hood and tinker (I am not a dev though) I see promise in Acer's future with this tablet.
I really can't justify buying a $599 Xoom when it's spec'ed the same as the acer, and has it's own shortcomings that readily already works with the A500.
Input please?
it's the "hey, look at me look at me look at me" syndrome.
either you buy it, you don't. if you've already got it, you either keep it or you don't.
if you're so scared to drop $450-600 for something then you're never going to be satisfied. me, originally, i bought this to hold me over til the 32gb transformer came out, but the more i play with it--despite it's shortcomings--the more i like it. the screen is really nice, much nicer than i was led to believe due to various "reviews" on the 'net.
it's no ipad screen but then again, what other tablet in this form factor even comes close to the ipad screen?
people need to stop crying so much and learn to live with what they've got. i didn't exactly NEED this tablet, and i could have very well continued living without it so i really don't understand these folks who are just itching to spend money on something just so they can cry about it online.
Acer A500 Ace Enough ?
I think your query is 100% valid. Here in Australia we have the Galaxy Tab 10.1v out but in very short supply, no Xoom yet, so I bought the Acer A500 then got offered a Galaxy but am still waiting for the delivery, I also have an iPad2.
Based on honeycomb alone I like it better than the iOS on the iPad 2, but iOS is really a few years old now and honeycomb is new.
Add in the ACER's native USB that works with drives or keyboards etc, a working microsSD, and the Acer is a force to be dealt with even at more money.
I look forward to the Galaxy but the Acer feels like old hardware with a new operating system, whilst the iPad2 for instance feels like new hardware with an old OS.
Here in oz, I am more concerned at the lag of accessories / cases for anything other than the iPad2
The only hardware issue I have is that it doesn't charge by USB and you get a small residual charge when using it whilst connected to the power
If I was doing it all over again the galaxy tab 10.1v is likely to have been worth waiting for, and might be selling my Acer on eBay less than a week after purchase.
But only if I can get the idea of the working microsSD - not on any tablet yet (but the Xoom should be working in the future) , and USB.. the idea of plugging a usb stick in a tablet is soooo good.
I also find using the Acer as a PDF reader much better than the iPad2 (a big deal for me) and finally I find the bigger bezel and wider viewable screen, better onthe acer than the apple especially when typing.
Live wallpaper is awesome on the acer.
Typing is so much better on the Acer.. iOS 5 has a lot of ground to make up for.
So Galaxy I expect to be better than the Acer, in build quality but not features.
Between the Xoom and the Acer, I do not get the point of the price difference for the Xoom .
Hope that diatribe helps
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In my case I sent it back because I am scared about the Iconia
bootloader is strictly closed at the moment and its
build quality (mine creaked on the right backside just where the border is - heard from few people having the same problem)
and in addition I had the chance to
get a Motorola Xoom at the same price as the Iconia - and because of its
great developer base plus the freedom to customize it in any way
I have choosen the Xoom about the Iconia.
On The Fence
I'm concerned about a few things but nothing major:
1. The "wobbly" charging pin failing once I'm out of warranty - I've had this kind of charging pin on a (admittedly) crappy Archos and returned it to BB.
2. The lack of accessories
The software doesn't bother me since I rooted (easiest root I ever did) the devs will ultimately prevail - what does bother me is if the devs lose interest - then we're dead in the water.
...Probably because people aren't getting the attention from the public they thought they would from buying a tablet. I figure Apple sold so many for that reason...
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I keep reading post about people being "scared" that acer isn't going to update as fast as they would like. Or their is no Restore yet, bootloaders and other minor annoyances.
Input please?
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When you drop $450 on a device on impulse, you look for reasons to take it back. Plain and simple. I believe a majority of people purchasing the Acer A500 were looking forward to the Transformer. When that didn't come (properly, anyway) they hurriedly got the A500 on impulse because it was available.
I think we all know how impulse purchases go. We practically sit there and look for reasons to return the device because we know it's something that we didn't REALLY think through thoroughly and I suppose the responsible part of our psyche becomes hyperactive. Everything and anything becomes a problem and we start seeing issues that aren't really there (not saying this is true of everyone).
The people who returned their A500s are likely serial returners, ie: people who regularly impulse buy and return stuff and between the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the other Honeycomb tablets coming in June, there's going to be plenty fodder for them to get through before they finally settle on a device. There's nothing wrong with that as it's their money and they should spend it how they see fit. There's also the fact that some people are genuinely having software or hardware issues and simply lost confidence in the device.
So why are people returning it? It's all relative. Some people have/had hardware issues. Some are having software issues that they'd rather not wait to see fixed. And some are looking for something "better" to come along down the line.
i took mine back for more than a few reasons
the bulk, it was uncomfortable to hold
the short charging cable
the weird dot grid on the screen
and lastly not knowing how acer was going to handle updates
the biggest reason, the battery life
i liked the device it is just as fast as the xoom, the iconia is a good device but just wasn't for me.
i hope acer does you all that still have it right with the updates
I won't be returning mine. I love this device. I've been on Android for a little over two years and have seen devices come and go. This device does have some flaws like the short charging cable and the strong solid fact that it isn't the Transformer. To be honest why does everyone want the the Transformer over the Iconia? Because it has a keyboard dock with an extended battery plus USB function for an additional 150$? To me thats a waste. Or that fact that no one knows how Acer will handle the Android updates? Okay, that's valid but what about ASUS, they are still unknown to the Android arena. Maybe the dots on the screen that are on all touch screen devices like the Transformer and Xoom are the reasons. Maybe one day the very small development team will stop doing such? So download the Android SDK and have at it. The lack of accessories is a big reason, give it time the device just hit the shelves. There are probably millions more and more to come. I just don't get it, this is a very good device that can do practically the same things as all the other devices. The other reason I'm not returning it is the fact that at first I wanted the Transformer but the more I started to contrast the device instead of comparing, I started seeing that the Iconia does in fact offer a little bit more to it users but it is up the the users to decide.
Maybe those that are so scared should stick to buying APPLE products , dont worry Steve Jobs will decide for you what you need and when you need it!
My god Ive never seen so many babies!
I thought it was bad in the Windows Phone 7 forum , but in here its even worse ,the "if I dont get my updates I'm telling mommy" crowd is really annoying!
Maybe its because I was around when the first PCs and Macs came about ,maybe thats why Im more patient , I like to figure it out myself , I hate products that are already "Made" Like the Ipad, nothing to do with it, most of the people in here need an ipad if they want a tablet , they dont have to put any sweat into it!
To all the devs way to go , Im pretty sure if they just gave up because the bootloader wasnt available the Iconia would never make it, none of these Android tablet would make it!
I have to say this forum is the same as the Xoom with everyone second guessing the device, well I had the Xoom, infact I had two Xooms, the first one had wifi problems that developed over time and it eventually took anywhere from 30 seconds to one minute to connect to my wifi.
I had the second one up until yesterday when it completely froze up and nothing would help it. I did a factory reset and everything, finally after a hour setting turned off, I turned it on and it did come back up but the problem's continued with the wifi not working, and the screen became unresponsive. To me the Xoom with it's nonworking Micro SD and all of the other problem's it had was just not worth $589.99 at all, and that was just the wifi only version.
As for all the people complaining about how heavy the Acer is well you have not had a Xoom in your hands, this thing is not heavy at all, I purchased this right after I returned my Xoom to Amazon yesterday and this is a delight to hold next to the Xoom, I was waiting for the Toshiba tab but after reading many things about it and the use of their own market feature I decided to forgo that one and as for Samsung well I tried that one when AT&T sold it for $650.00 when it came out the very first time and all my downloaded apps kept disappearing from it every time I would turn it on. Was told it was a known problem but had no fix for it, both from AT&T and Samsung, needless to say I got rid of it!!
As for the little dots on the screen that the one guy took his Acer back over, all I can say is WOW, I have the exact same dot's on my Inspire, they are sensors that are built into the screen for better touch response!!!!!
Sounds like most share the OP's sentiment, myself included. Yes, I thought I wanted the Asus, but when I did a comparison, the Acer was superior. I bought the device because I was already an Android junkie, thanks to my Evo (CM7-powered). Can you say wireless tether? I knew you could.
I wanted a larger form factor for use at the office, and it gets a workout. I have my Exchange email and my Office documents - perfect for the manager type that I am. Having an instant-on device that I can use for meeting notes is something I've wanted for a long time (yeah, a pen and paper works, but I tend to lose those notes).
Yes, it's nice to play Angry Birds, too. The HDMI connection to my 60-inch LED television makes that experience almost religious.
Having a rooted device is a plus, because that brings Titanium Backup into play, and I find that very valuable.
Add in Pandora, my Music (Google Music this week, too!), and movies on the device just completes the package for me - it's an excellent travel device.
There's quite a bit of nit-picking over features, but what it boils down to is this: do you USE the device? Does it work for YOU? If so, great. If not, return it, try something else. If it's better, please let us know.
Then check back in a year, and let us know how it's going. Technology moves too fast to try to keep up with the latest features. Pick your poison, and make the most of it. Regret is for sissies.
Hows the hdmi working? Havent tried that sound good though
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Sounds like most share the OP's sentiment, myself included. Yes, I thought I wanted the Asus, but when I did a comparison, the Acer was superior. I bought the device because I was already an Android junkie, thanks to my Evo (CM7-powered). Can you say wireless tether? I knew you could.
I wanted a larger form factor for use at the office, and it gets a workout. I have my Exchange email and my Office documents - perfect for the manager type that I am. Having an instant-on device that I can use for meeting notes is something I've wanted for a long time (yeah, a pen and paper works, but I tend to lose those notes).
Yes, it's nice to play Angry Birds, too. The HDMI connection to my 60-inch LED television makes that experience almost religious.
Having a rooted device is a plus, because that brings Titanium Backup into play, and I find that very valuable.
Add in Pandora, my Music (Google Music this week, too!), and movies on the device just completes the package for me - it's an excellent travel device.
There's quite a bit of nit-picking over features, but what it boils down to is this: do you USE the device? Does it work for YOU? If so, great. If not, return it, try something else. If it's better, please let us know.
Then check back in a year, and let us know how it's going. Technology moves too fast to try to keep up with the latest features. Pick your poison, and make the most of it. Regret is for sissies.
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I have to say this forum is the same as the Xoom with everyone second guessing the device, well I had the Xoom, infact I had two Xooms, the first one had wifi problems that developed over time and it eventually took anywhere from 30 seconds to one minute to connect to my wifi.
I had the second one up until yesterday when it completely froze up and nothing would help it. I did a factory reset and everything, finally after a hour setting turned off, I turned it on and it did come back up but the problem's continued with the wifi not working, and the screen became unresponsive. To me the Xoom with it's nonworking Micro SD and all of the other problem's it had was just not worth $589.99 at all, and that was just the wifi only version.
As for all the people complaining about how heavy the Acer is well you have not had a Xoom in your hands, this thing is not heavy at all, I purchased this right after I returned my Xoom to Amazon yesterday and this is a delight to hold next to the Xoom, I was waiting for the Toshiba tab but after reading many things about it and the use of their own market feature I decided to forgo that one and as for Samsung well I tried that one when AT&T sold it for $650.00 when it came out the very first time and all my downloaded apps kept disappearing from it every time I would turn it on. Was told it was a known problem but had no fix for it, both from AT&T and Samsung, needless to say I got rid of it!!
As for the little dots on the screen that the one guy took his Acer back over, all I can say is WOW, I have the exact same dot's on my Inspire, they are sensors that are built into the screen for better touch response!!!!!
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Good to see over here Moe Well, I too am keeping my Acer. It's too early in the game to be worried about updates and/or recovery. I "MAY" consider the Galaxy Tab as my return policy ends on June 7th, the day before it's released. The micro sd and usb are biggies for me. I also have to see what the pricepoint of the Galaxy Tab will be like. I'm still recovering from my Captivate though....
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Good to see over here Moe Well, I too am keeping my Acer. It's too early in the game to be worried about updates and/or recovery. I "MAY" consider the Galaxy Tab as my return policy ends on June 7th, the day before it's released. The micro sd and usb are biggies for me. I also have to see what the pricepoint of the Galaxy Tab will be like. I'm still recovering from my Captivate though....
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Great to see that you are here lrs421, with all the great help from you and Bubby to get my Inspire rooted it is great to hear from you again, well if I ever need any help with this thing at least there is one person I know I can count on. I am not sure I will ever try a Samsung tab again since I has such trouble with that first Galaxy tab I had and the worthless Samsung tech support!!! I still have a eye on that Toshiba tab, I just cannot get over wanting it, kind of like a itch I cannot scratch!!!! Plus a removable battery is another thing that sounds good also!!!
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Great to see that you are here lrs421, with all the great help from you and Bubby to get my Inspire rooted it is great to hear from you again, well if I ever need any help with this thing at least there is one person I know I can count on. I am not sure I will ever try a Samsung tab again since I has such trouble with that first Galaxy tab I had and the worthless Samsung tech support!!! I still have a eye on that Toshiba tab, I just cannot get over wanting it, kind of like a itch I cannot scratch!!!! Plus a removable battery is another thing that sounds good also!!!
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No prob I'm still learning alot about this tab as well.
This is my point exactly regarding the galaxy tab and "others". I see these threads popping up a lot lately about people keeping or returning tabs, waiting or upgrading, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time in the Galaxy, ASUS, G Tablet and Xoom forums, in each one it's all the same; some happy people and some not so happy people. IMO, the perfect android tablet simply doesn't exist yet. Futhermore, we have to give these things a little time to evolve, it's only been a few weeks and in the hands of a few devs, albeit capable devs. I've rooted and hacked my Inspire to within an inch of it's life so I really don't mind running the Acer stock until things get sorted out. Those of you considering jumping ship, spend some time in the other forums and see what I mean.
I was torn between the Xoom and the Acer having returned my third transformer because of build quality issues (its a long story).
So I spent about 20 mins playing with each one in PCWorld (uk) today.
I have to say, I have come down on the side of the Acer for a number of reasons, yes there is the obvious ones of microsd, usb connectivity and hosting and of course the fact that it's about 30 quid cheaper in the UK.
But also the form factor was a big influence in my choice. Yes, I know it's a bit heavy but that extra frame real estate is a big help in holding the device in one hand.
I am a big guy with pretty big hands, and when holding the Xoom in one hand, because the bezel is so narrow, my thumb is actually on the touchscreen activating what ever is underneath it, the wider bezel on the Acer means this doesn't happen. Plenty of space for my thumb allowing for a wider holding position, and (because of something to do with fulcrums) as far as I was concerned, greater comfort.
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No prob I'm still learning alot about this tab as well.
This is my point exactly regarding the galaxy tab and "others". I see these threads popping up a lot lately about people keeping or returning tabs, waiting or upgrading, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time in the Galaxy, ASUS, G Tablet and Xoom forums, in each one it's all the same; some happy people and some not so happy people. IMO, the perfect android tablet simply doesn't exist yet. Futhermore, we have to give these things a little time to evolve, it's only been a few weeks and in the hands of a few devs, albeit capable devs. I've rooted and hacked my Inspire to within an inch of it's life so I really don't mind running the Acer stock until things get sorted out. Those of you considering jumping ship, spend some time in the other forums and see what I mean.
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I agree, I just picked up the Acer yesterday because it is available and a good product, but there is alot of ppl returning it hoping for better. I spent alot of time watching the Asus boards and it's the same over there, theres also alot of problems with the tranformer that Asus definately could have fixed before releasing it, and you can't get one. I am hoping that shear numbers of units sold will help out the Acer here, as the general majority of dev support seems to be heavily wieghted towards the transformer. I'm still not sure that ill keep the Acer, but once we get recovery I think ill be very comfortable keeping it.
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...Probably because people aren't getting the attention from the public they thought they would from buying a tablet. I figure Apple sold so many for that reason...
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I got married to a porn star the same day I bought my tablet man, they're chick magnets.
On a more serious note, I dunno, it's a solid device for me. There are issues, and I think forums generally tend to be populated with the more vocal(obviously) people as well as bringing about mob mentality. If the Xoom all of a sudden dropped to the same price at Bestbuy, I might consider an exchange, sure. Motorola has a proven support record for tabs. Acer is an unknown, and their PC's were never that great IMO either.
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Hows the hdmi working? Havent tried that sound good though
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Perfectly. Just plug it in and go.
So, I just got my a500 a few days ago and I'm wondering if I should take it bac, either to wait until quadcore comes out ( next month? ) or to just get a galaxy 10.1. I'm wondering what your opinions are. As I do not see this tablet being worth $450 or even much more than $250 - though thats just me - ps. I do have custom rom and custom kernal, but even as typing this it's lagging, i also cant stand the front camera lag and the screen sorry to talk trash on this tablet, but anyway, what are your thoughts?
Take it back if you don't like it.
Pretty much with MrBoingy.
The Galaxy 10.1 is going to be like the iPad - thin and light and gorgeous .. until you start having to carry around and plug in the adapter for the memory card reader or the USB adapter or ...
The XDA forums in particular seem to be laggy as all get-out when typing on Android devices - you do NOT want to read a transcription of my internal conversation while trying to search these forums from my Droid phone last night.
All things considered though, if you aren't enjoying your tablet, bring it back while you can and try a different one. Tablets are, IMO, even more personal electronic devices than phones are, and you wouldn't stick with a phone you didn't like if you could return it still, would you?
+ 1 here. It sounds like you have already made up your mind. If you do not like the A55, then return it and get one you like. A purchase like this should not be made if you are unhappy with the product. Everyone has thier own like and dislikes. It does not mean they are wrong, that is thier opinion. Good luck with your choice.
I agreee when I buy something.even a nice dress or heels if I hesitate one time rather I like or not back to the store I go.my money is hard to come by when I spend it I better enjoy what I buy.
I say if your not happy with this tab wait for next generation as they all seem to very close in performance.
Good luck
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As I do not see this tablet being worth $450 or even much more than $250
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Based on that alone, return it. You've already made your mind up about the tablet. To say it's not worth more than $250 means you must be extremely unhappy with it so definitely return it and enjoy your Galaxy Tab 10.1 or future Kalel device.
Do you still love your thrive ? I still really like my tablet . Enjoying skype on it . I haven't had any issues with it so far . Waiting for the roocase slim black due to be realed the 17th . 6.6Grams weight . Figured id post this question for those who want to share some thoughts about your new toshiba thrive . I kinda wish woulda got the 8gb ultrahigh the 16gb will be better for resale .
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I like mine even more now that it is rooted and all that bloatware has been frozen by titanium backup, all I can see is great things happening for this tablet now that root has been done!!!
how hard is it to root, what are the advantages/disadvantages?
Just got mine in the mail yesterday, reformatted my 500gb portable drive threw a few hundred ripped movies on and fell in love with the full usb. Unfortunately the screen has frozen on me in excess of 30 times since I got it and I'm ready to destroy this pos. I installed the sod fix, but this is a seperate issue I believe. I hate this thing
I just got my Thrive, had it for a few days now, and I LOVE it!!! My friend and I just took some video at Disney and I edited it on the way home. I love the full size ports and support for up to 128GB SDXC.
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Just got mine in the mail yesterday, reformatted my 500gb portable drive threw a few hundred ripped movies on and fell in love with the full usb. Unfortunately the screen has frozen on me in excess of 30 times since I got it and I'm ready to destroy this pos. I installed the sod fix, but this is a seperate issue I believe. I hate this thing
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Yeah that happened to me. Just send it back. My second Thrive has been nothing but bliss especially since the sleep wake problem has been resolved.
I really wanted it at the start, but frankly, its slower than my phone. My Atrix runs Aliens WAY faster, and the ergonomics are terrible for the thrive. I love Android phones, but the app store on the Thrive isn't anywhere close to that on the phones. This tab was a big disappointment. Thank God I saved my receipt. We need Ice Cream Sandwich already.
Considering buying a Thrive.
Wow, lots of good info here.
I'm torn between this and The Acer Iconia.
I think I need to wait and do more research.
Root is always nice to have and SD is cheaper than micro sd.
If they say the sleep lock is fixed then that another thing going for it.
I do have Toshiba Regza HDTV and the build quality and picture is excellent.
Its been out a month and i see no Custom Roms, that makes me a sad Panda, but i guess maybe you won't need a custom rom, more like need a custom kernal to overclock and undervolt.
I'm so in love with my evo, and spoiled by their development and updates and roms and kernals and kinda jealous of my in laws, stupid 1st genration Ipad, thing doesnt even have a camera, y'know. My kids light up though when they play angry birds on it though.
Does anybody miss having a flash for the camera ?
Has anybody taken pictures indoor in low light situations? Was it grainy, unusable?
I feel I am missing other important questions but will edit as necessary.
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Wow, lots of good info here.
I'm torn between this and The Acer Iconia.
I think I need to wait and do more research.
Root is always nice to have and SD is cheaper than micro sd.
If they say the sleep lock is fixed then that another thing going for it.
I do have Toshiba Regza HDTV and the build quality and picture is excellent.
Its been out a month and i see no Custom Roms, that makes me a sad Panda, but i guess maybe you won't need a custom rom, more like need a custom kernal to overclock and undervolt.
I'm so in love with my evo, and spoiled by their development and updates and roms and kernals and kinda jealous of my in laws, stupid 1st genration Ipad, thing doesnt even have a camera, y'know. My kids light up though when they play angry birds on it though.
Does anybody miss having a flash for the camera ?
Has anybody taken pictures indoor in low light situations? Was it grainy, unusable?
I feel I am missing other important questions but will edit as necessary.
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I have owned the Acer Iconia and the Toshiba Thrive. I liked the Iconia, but returned it because of the GPS not working correctly. No Iconias were available, but the Thrive was, so off I went with the new toy. You would not go wrong with the Thrive. For all the reasons you said. Toshiba is working the sleep issue and if you look, other manufacturers have also had this issue since thier 3.1 update. As for the camera, I personnaly do not miss the flash, but that is also because I do not use the camera very often. I have a camera for pictures and it is much easier to use than any tablet. In low light, it has problems, but mostly due to the auto focus. If you set the focus to infinity, it does OK. There is one debloated ROM out for the Thrive. We do have it rooted and working quite well.
Going to love boxing it back up for a return here shortly and looking at another manufacturer instead. The volume issues suck and it's not native to just this tablet. Poking around it seems Toshiba has similar issues on their Satellite laptops as well.
Good riddance to this thing and anything else from the company in the future.
Had the A500 and did not like the weak wifi and the device kept waking up when should be in sleep mode. Also the slick surface reminded me of the slippery iPad 1.
Thrive has much better wifi, display, surface grip and works great with 64gb and 128gb sdxc cards. A500 does not have a full sd slot so can not support sdxc.
A500 is a good tablet none the less, but the Thrive IMO is a much better device. It also had a sleep issue that was fixed with the newest update.
I've had my thrive for about 6 weeks and use it heavily. I love it! I got it as a laptop replacement and it's worked out perfectly. Yes, there are some additional things on my wish list, like NTFS support, and a simple VPN solution, but it does more than I had originally hoped for...and it's given me no problems.
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I've had my thrive for about 6 weeks and use it heavily. I love it! I got it as a laptop replacement and it's worked out perfectly. Yes, there are some additional things on my wish list, like NTFS support, and a simple VPN solution, but it does more than I had originally hoped for...and it's given me no problems.
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Word Brotha!
I am an IT Professional, or atleast thats what I call myself normally... Truth is I am a 23 year old techie who has a knack for tech and really just does enough work to get by!
I bought this Thrive about 2 weeks ago with every intention of hating it... I also had buyers remorse after reading some negative review. Thinking to myself "why did I buy this piece of ****".
After receiving it in the mail I could not put the damn thing down, when it's not at my side I feel like a wolf who lost his wolf pack. Seriously this thing can do way more than I expected. I constantly travel for my job and HATE lugging around my laptop this thing has replaced it entirely. Not only have I wowed people with presentations (thanks to the full HDMI) but its just plain cool. I was out to lunch with a client 2 days ago (mmm Pho) and showing them the progress I made on the project I am doing for them and the mofo wanted to check his yahoo answers on there. He also kept calling it an iPad but that's because he is pretty stupid when it comes to tech.
Not to mention I do a lot of riding on trains so I can always catch up on my TV shows, I just need a Netflix app that works! Mine isn't root it as I don't see a point other than Netflix it already does more than what I need it to do.
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Word Brotha!
I am an IT Professional, or atleast thats what I call myself normally... Truth is I am a 23 year old techie who has a knack for tech and really just does enough work to get by!
I bought this Thrive about 2 weeks ago with every intention of hating it... I also had buyers remorse after reading some negative review. Thinking to myself "why did I buy this piece of ****".
After receiving it in the mail I could not put the damn thing down, when it's not at my side I feel like a wolf who lost his wolf pack. Seriously this thing can do way more than I expected. I constantly travel for my job and HATE lugging around my laptop this thing has replaced it entirely. Not only have I wowed people with presentations (thanks to the full HDMI) but its just plain cool. I was out to lunch with a client 2 days ago (mmm Pho) and showing them the progress I made on the project I am doing for them and the mofo wanted to check his yahoo answers on there. He also kept calling it an iPad but that's because he is pretty stupid when it comes to tech.
Not to mention I do a lot of riding on trains so I can always catch up on my TV shows, I just need a Netflix app that works! Mine isn't root it as I don't see a point other than Netflix it already does more than what I need it to do.
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If you can't see the point in rooting it then you are not that much of a "techie" as you think...
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If you can't see the point in rooting it then you are not that much of a "techie" as you think...
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Maybe your right.
But is rooting it going to make it easier to code HTML, PHP, Ajax or Javascript? Most likely no and its prolly never something I'll do on a tablet... What are the benefits of rooting or hacking? Generally to gain access to content or software not originally offered by the manufacturer. (Or pirated software)
Which is why it was worth hacking my PSP back in the day as that little guy became so much more awesome. I guess my point is that the Thrive already takes care of me as is and from my research I haven't seen any super amazing benefits from rooting my Thrive. (Unlike rooting the Nook Color or G-Tablet both of which have exponential advantages) The only reason I would consider rooting is perhaps in an attempt to gain early access to Icecream sandwich or to gain the ability to recognize and connect to Ad-Hoc networks. Like the one my TP2 transmits so I can piggyback on my data plan whenever I want.
In short the Thrive is already more than capable without rooting it, now when Toshiba drops support to the unit that's when its time to root.
I just ditched my Acer Iconia A500 for the Thrive, and I love it. Seems so much more durable better wifi and GPS and the full size HDMI is a plus, although there does seem to be a bad lag between typing and the words actually appearing on the screen.
I just rooted my Thrive. I did it to get 3.2 early and to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled.
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Maybe your right.
But is rooting it going to make it easier to code HTML, PHP, Ajax or Javascript? Most likely no and its prolly never something I'll do on a tablet... What are the benefits of rooting or hacking? Generally to gain access to content or software not originally offered by the manufacturer. (Or pirated software)
Which is why it was worth hacking my PSP back in the day as that little guy became so much more awesome. I guess my point is that the Thrive already takes care of me as is and from my research I haven't seen any super amazing benefits from rooting my Thrive. (Unlike rooting the Nook Color or G-Tablet both of which have exponential advantages) The only reason I would consider rooting is perhaps in an attempt to gain early access to Icecream sandwich or to gain the ability to recognize and connect to Ad-Hoc networks. Like the one my TP2 transmits so I can piggyback on my data plan whenever I want.
In short the Thrive is already more than capable without rooting it, now when Toshiba drops support to the unit that's when its time to root.
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That is absolutely NOT why you want to root your device. We don't root to steal software, we root to freeze all the extra crap that comes on it that we don't want, to edit the system files and streamline our experience. We root to give us access to everything on our tablet. It IS ours afterall. -- I have 20 years experience in IT as an actual PROFESSIONAL.
You can just tether your tablet to your phone using your phone's software usually.
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Word Brotha!
I am an IT Professional, or atleast thats what I call myself normally... Truth is I am a 23 year old techie who has a knack for tech and really just does enough work to get by!
I bought this Thrive about 2 weeks ago with every intention of hating it... I also had buyers remorse after reading some negative review. Thinking to myself "why did I buy this piece of ****".
After receiving it in the mail I could not put the damn thing down, when it's not at my side I feel like a wolf who lost his wolf pack. Seriously this thing can do way more than I expected. I constantly travel for my job and HATE lugging around my laptop this thing has replaced it entirely. Not only have I wowed people with presentations (thanks to the full HDMI) but its just plain cool. I was out to lunch with a client 2 days ago (mmm Pho) and showing them the progress I made on the project I am doing for them and the mofo wanted to check his yahoo answers on there. He also kept calling it an iPad but that's because he is pretty stupid when it comes to tech.
Not to mention I do a lot of riding on trains so I can always catch up on my TV shows, I just need a Netflix app that works! Mine isn't root it as I don't see a point other than Netflix it already does more than what I need it to do.
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Netflix pushed a BIG update about 3 weeks ago I think... did this add support to the Toshiba Thrive? I would like to know... if not, I still have a couple "altered" versions I used on my HTC Inspire before it was supported... maybe I can give those a go...
...and oh, I just ordered my Thrive online, in case anyone cares (I know I do)
I love my thrive. I started with an iPad then a galaxy tab. This is a sturdy piece of hardware. The USB port has been a huge plus for me. Its definitely more reliable. After updating and tweaking there has been no issues.
I think if you have any amount of tech or geek blood in your body rooting the device is the second thing you do after first taking it out of the box
**sent from my Thrive using Tapatalk**
I've loved the concept of tablets for a long time, but two things that were always keeping me from replacing my laptop with a tablet - full sized ports and a video editor.
I've tried iPad and iPad2 - too limited
Galaxy tab (7 inch) - LOVED it, but couldn't justify keeping it anymore
Xoom - It was great, but didn't really have a use for it.
Acer Iconia - Really liked it, but again didn't do everything I wanted.
Toshiba Thrive - So far, I'm thinking I'll be able to replace my laptop. I can even hook this thing to a TV or monitor (with adapter) and use a full sized keyboard and mouse, external hard drive, game controller, whatever.
For what I do on my laptop, since I don't really develop anymore, I can do just about everything on the Thrive.
Even the movie editor, although basic, is working out for me so far..
Granted I've only had it a day and a half, but so far so good.
I played with all of the top rated tablets before I purchased my Thrive. And as far as I'm concerned, the quality and features of this tablet are among the best of all the currently available choices. But what blows me away is the total lack of interest from the xda development community. That and Thrive owners, including myself, had to literally beg for an xda forum. This is a total mystery. And they've left us no clues. Because I never have seen any negatives on this tablet, period. But what has scared away all the developers is aparently a well kept secret. I had high hopes when I first purchased my Thrive. But up until now only 1 and maybe 2 persons are qualified(?) developers, and have taken interest in the Thrive. And things are just plain dead right now, even at thriveforums.org. What a bummer! So I will probably end up selling it, even though it is a great tablet, and getting something that has more developer interest, such as the Asus Transformer. Because I like to play.
9-29 UPDATE: Rumor has it that the next Thrive update is going to make things more difficult for everyone, as Fastboot has been removed. If Toshiba does this, it will make it a lot harder for us to "play."
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I played with all of the top rated tablets before I purchased my Thrive. And as far as I'm concerned, the quality and features of this tablet are among the best of all the currently available choices. But what blows me away is the total lack of interest from the xda development community. That and Thrive owners, including myself, had to literally beg for an xda forum. This is a total mystery. And they've left us no clues. Because I never have seen any negatives on this tablet, period. But what has scared away all the developers is aparently a well kept secret. I had high hopes when I first purchased my Thrive. But up until now only 1 and maybe 2 persons are qualified(?) developers, and have taken interest in the Thrive. And things are just plain dead right now, even at thriveforums.org. What a bummer! So I will probably end up selling it, even though it is a great tablet, and getting something that has more developer interest, such as the Asus Transformer. Because I like to play.
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Man Lexus One. You should hang in there. We may not have any love from the XDA crowd, but those of us working on the Thrive are doing great things. I think you will see a lot more come along when ICS is released. This device by far is running smoother than any of the others. Tweaks I have made to the boot image for memory management has really stepped it up. Guys like to overclock to make the device run smoother, but right now, I do not think we need it. dj_steve is porting ROMs and giving you guys that like custom ROMs the ROms to play with. I am keeping those of us that like the stock feel what we need. I do not think going to the Asus will make you any happier. Development has slowed down for all the tablets. I think all are looking for ICS release and the source to go with it.
I am getting one of these soon (from the AndroidAndMe contest) and was excited about the ports and goodies and all despite the thickness. It also made me sad there is barely any development tho.
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Man Lexus One. You should hang in there. We may not have any love from the XDA crowd, but those of us working on the Thrive are doing great things. I think you will see a lot more come along when ICS is released. This device by far is running smoother than any of the others. Tweaks I have made to the boot image for memory management has really stepped it up. Guys like to overclock to make the device run smoother, but right now, I do not think we need it. dj_steve is porting ROMs and giving you guys that like custom ROMs the ROms to play with. I am keeping those of us that like the stock feel what we need. I do not think going to the Asus will make you any happier. Development has slowed down for all the tablets. I think all are looking for ICS release and the source to go with it.
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You could be right about things improving for the Thrive. However I think you are operating more on faith than on the facts. Because if things don't start picking up soon, the new quad core tablets will be popping up, and interest in Thrive development will probably diminish even more. Sorry to be so negative, but it's hard for me to have your faith right now. But I am thankful that the Thrive has got people like you and dj_steve to keep things interesting and fun. And everyone else who has helped in the area of development.
I just bought one last week when Was visiting the US (in fact am typing this on it!!) And have to say I love it. My wife bought an I pad, and I think she secretly wishes she got the thrive instead!! Love the connectivity and Android is far superior to iOS. As for the thickness, I don't even notice it now. The latest rom seems to have fixed the sleep of death issue.
And the price was great, worked out about £260, which is pretty cheap for honeycomb tablet.
All in all highly recommended!
Cheers
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I just bought one last week when Was visiting the US (in fact am typing this on it!!) And have to say I love it. My wife bought an I pad, and I think she secretly wishes she got the thrive instead!! Love the connectivity and Android is far superior to iOS. As for the thickness, I don't even notice it now. The latest rom seems to have fixed the sleep of death issue.
And the price was great, worked out about £260, which is pretty cheap for honeycomb tablet.
All in all highly recommended!
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Glad to here you like it. I enjoy mine also. At least when I can get it away from the wife. She's hooked on Angry Birds.
Every day there's something I like more about it.
Just last night I was messing with ES File Manager, mapped a drive to my windows share that has all my media and tried to launch a video (something I haven't been able to do over the network on other devices).
Boom, WMV, AVI, MP4.. all played flawlessly.
I didn't have to do anything special but download the file manager.
I'm putting my laptop on Craigslist.. this thing is officially a replacement for me.
.. let me rephrase that, for me, it is a laptop replacement.. not that it's a replacement for me.
..although if I was a tablet, my wife could push my buttons all she wanted.. haha
Glad you are liking it. You might want to check out thisone.org.
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Glad you are liking it. You might want to check out ThriveForums.org.
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I've been following XDA for years, since I first bought my Samsung i760 and fell I love with it. Its a great phone that I always consider bringing back into service! Then when I jumped to HTC I found this the place to be, now I'm like wtf... how is the thrive so neglected? The potential this device has with full sized USB is insane! Why wouldn't devs take advantage of it? I feel like no one cares about the thrive, Toshiba turned around and made a tablet that all the fanboys on here ***** that the ipad doesn't have... the ipad doesn't have expandable memory, it doesn't have full sized USB or HDMI out, the web can could be better.... ppl flamed the ipad so much and Toshiba turned around and took all these ideas and put them into a tablet and granted its bigger than normal but its not overly so.
Toshiba went above and beyond making this tablet and so many people turned around and **** on it and ignored it... so now we may never get another tablet like this again. Soon we will all be told how much storage we need and be forced to upgrade when we either don't have enough or our batteries can't hold longer than a 5 minute charge...
Sigh, I'm ranting but I'm gonna start moving away from xda now I love their dev's and the projects they embark on but I can't take the forum as much anymore. Even the mods are getting on my nerves, like the post that's in the Toshiba dev thread in here... the mod says its not his job to keep a thread cleaned and organized... what crack are you ****ing smoking? If your not a dev or project manager it is your ****igng job you retard, why else are you a ****ing mod? Ive been a forum mod, IRCop, NetAdmin and if that's your attitude your just being unreasonable and I see that more and more here at xda. Kids these days are so backwards, I fear for future generations. I think I'll be spending more time over at thriveforums.org.
Anyway sorry for ranting...
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I wonder if people fear the Toshiba name? When I got my galaxy tab the Thrive had just come out. I had minor interest only because it was a 10" tablet. When I ditched the tab and went shopping I was struggling between the Xoom and the 10" tab. The guy showed me the Thrive. I played with it for almost half an hour. The price was right...and having reward point certificates didn't hurt either I transferred files over using my USB thumb drive which was cool. Haven't tried the HDMI yet. I've been thru a few devices and this is by far the best one.
I'm very satisfied with my Thrive.
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I wonder if people fear the Toshiba name? When I got my galaxy tab the Thrive had just come out. I had minor interest only because it was a 10" tablet. When I ditched the tab and went shopping I was struggling between the Xoom and the 10" tab. The guy showed me the Thrive. I played with it for almost half an hour. The price was right...and having reward point certificates didn't hurt either I transferred files over using my USB thumb drive which was cool. Haven't tried the HDMI yet. I've been thru a few devices and this is by far the best one.
I'm very satisfied with my Thrive.
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I love my Thrive too. Just purchased it last nite. Enjoying every minute of it. Still learning all the ins and outs of it.
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Just got mine today and I love it. Viewing angles are better than any tablet I had before.
Just got mine yesterday coming from the viewsonic g tablet. WOW what a difference.
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I love mine you should look into, Toshiba Thrive forum, lots of good information.
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Love Thrive!!
I gave the NookColor to the kids for games, videos and Netflix after I purchased the Thrive AT100 on Saturday. Love it!!!!!!!!!!
I looked at a ton of different comparisons: Transformer, Jetstream, Galaxy Tab 10.1 & iPad2 vs. Thrive. None is a match!
From the standard SD slot, to the Full size USB & HDMI; to the great screen; nice weight and solid performance --- I'm in love!!!!!
I know the AT200 is out 'soon' so I'll upgrade then -- I have a 30 day return policy..... AT200 is a monster! Great job Toshiba! They came to the dance when they had a great product; rather be late to arrive then to be Dead-on-Arrival like so many others who came out fast with gen1 pieces of half-assed junk.
Love Thrive! I haven't even rooted; not certain I'll need to.
Cheers m8s.