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Incredible Screen type changed?

Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Boss428man said:
Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.

From what was announced only the nexus one and desire ee changed to slcd not the incredible.

My gf got a new replacement and hers has a purpleish tint to it when the brightness is low. A lot more noticeable then my phone. Looks like AMOLED though. The blacks are black.
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Kipphh said:
Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.
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HTC has publicly stated quite the opposite. The N1 and Desire switched to SLCD, but they have no immediate plans to switch the Incredible due to the change in the aforementioned two handsets alleviating the shortage.

htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.

mb02 said:
htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.
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HTC's statement, sent as a reply to htcsource.com...
"Because AMOLED supply is being relieved on other models, we currently feel we can meet demand of Droid Incredible with AMOLED screens. Of course we may need to change our minds and add sLCD screen models should demand continue to remain high.”
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http://www.htcsource.com/2010/07/ht...cd-displays-for-the-nexus-one-and-htc-desire/

Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens

There is definetly a difference between my original and these 2 replacments. I still have the original incredible in hand to compair with the second replacment.
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Look closely at the pixels for the pentile arrangement, if the edges of straight lines look like dotted lines, its still AMOLED. A good place to see it is to pull down the notification shade, and look at the edge of the O where it says Ongoing, with the pentile matrix on the AMOLED screen you can tell the O is jagged and not smooth.

Was wondering this too, my little brother just got an incredible and it looks fine in sunlight like my evo when they are both at full brightness. I also noticed that like the evo, on HTC.com the type of screen is not listed, just says touch sensitive display. Just last week it said amoled. He just got the phone this past Wednesday, the hardware version is 002.

After many phonecalls and internet research I found out they did change the screen to slcd. The sku with vw2 notes this. The amoled defintly has a better color balance but if you did know this you might not notice. Shame I think I am sticking with my original even thought the switch can be flakey at times.
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002 is the normal amoled. BTW, VZW got a froyo build that listed "LCD support" in the change logs, so they are at least preparing for the switch in case it ever does come.
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I'm on 3rd (hope last) inc due to warranty issues. Second was brand new, but had to wait due to backorder in June.
This latest one was a refurb, but looks and acts like a new one. I had some initial concerns, though. Just like the earlier poster, this has a purplish tint on the grays when using a setting dimmer than about 50%. I may not have noticed it if I hadn't had the other ones first. It's noticeable, but something I can live with. In any case, the display is crisp and clear, and the effect goes away as the brightness is turned up.
Awesome phone; even better thanks to XDA forums.
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Kipphh said:
Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens
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Too bad Samsung is holding those internally for up to a year in their own phones. By the time they release SAMOLED screens to other companies they've probably got something better already.

I don't worry about AMOLED vs sLCD because I got one of the engineering prototypes with AMOP technology (Active-Matrix Organic Plasma). Makes the production-run screens look like etch-a-sketch by comparison!
I'll be skruud if I ever brick it tho

white flecks on dhd screen ??

see this video 2 understand what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjtGx1BFlQ
and this 2 compare it with hd2 ??? it appears worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUBTfeNP-A
also compared to desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKSUFPT4qs
can htc change the screen in comming batches or production ???

xdafun4all said:
see this video 2 understand what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjtGx1BFlQ
and this 2 compare it with hd2 ??? it appears worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUBTfeNP-A
also compared to desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKSUFPT4qs
can htc change the screen in comming batches or production ???
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I think that's just the camera doing it. It's like you taking a vid of computer monitor there will be lines but not visible to human eyes. For the desire, it's an amoled display so it's a different technology. This is what I think.
If you look at the screen with your eyes, you should have no problem. However, if you can see the screen flickering like that with your eyes, then it could be the hardware

I had the white fleck beneath the screen that looks like
First youtube link
0.09 near the top
There was two white fleck on my second DHD and it seems like a production issue, I would recommend getting a exchange...

nmyseteroious said:
I think that's just the camera doing it. It's like you taking a vid of computer monitor there will be lines but not visible to human eyes. For the desire, it's an amoled display so it's a different technology. This is what I think.
If you look at the screen with your eyes, you should have no problem.
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ok but now i have htc tytn2 will i notice better screen with dhd ??? i feel that the screen is very poor in quality ..... hope i m wrong

NEXUS S - SLCD from carphonewarehouse

Just picked up a new nexus s (new years eve) from carphonewarehouse in brighton and it has an SLCD. Is this common in uk as i thought it was just happening in russia etc..????
I have an AMOLED Desire so i can see a massive difference and about to return it. Any benefit in SLCD???

Wring section but I don't know any.pros over super amoled.
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Really? Damn that sucks. The screen is probably my favorite thing about this phone.

SLCD? What a ripoff. Why aren't they using Super Amoled???

Yeh a little peeved as the demo one I tested was AMOLED but the one in the box wasnt. Grrrr

super amolded = the best, period.

Uh how can I check what screen mine has?
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brian6685 said:
Uh how can I check what screen mine has?
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Look at it.

The major difference is when looking at the image with black background.
As SAMOLED has unlimited contrast, black is totally black.

only the russian nexus s models have slcd. can't find the link to the article, but I remember reading about this.
edit : here's the article http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-s...d-in-russia-instead-of-super-amoled-20101207/

OMG!!!!!!!! noooooooo, i hate it when the manufacture process changes half way through the release of a product (example HTC Desire)
i'm glad our batch in USA has SAMOLED.... but what will happen after if we need to send in our for repair? are we going to lose the SAMOLED to be replaced with a Sony LCD ? like they did with the Desire?
ewww....
i think i'd rather go back to a Tmobile Vibrant if that ever happens

Well slcd has it benefits. First you get regular RGB pixels instead of ugly Pentile. Second LCD's are not prone to "burn in" and shioter life of amoled. There are toms of threads about samoled burn in and rapid dimness.
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hahaha. i cant believe this. what a total f*** up.

It couldn't be. My friend just purchase one for me in carphonewarehouse. If it is slcd, I'd rather her return it. Confirm?

nohcho said:
Well slcd has it benefits. First you get regular RGB pixels instead of ugly Pentile.
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the only reason i purchased this phone and SGS was to get the SAMOLED screen
if it was not for it, there are tons of better choices for an Android phone
there is simply nothing else better that can compare to the crispy clear quality of the SAMOLED
and most importantly it works under bright sunlight

AllGamer said:
if it was not for it, there are tons of better choices for an Android phone
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You think so?

They can't write Super AMOLED on the specs and sell a LCD, can you add some pictures of the screen?

I'd be surprised if you have a slcd screen! When the phone is off does your screen have a dark blue(ish) tinge to it? It does look different from a simple amoled screen, did some one tell you from carphone warehouse that it was scld?

This is very unlikely, surely?
As someone has said, the SAMOLED screen is one of the major selling points. If it didn't have it, I'd probably stick with my Desire HD!
It's almost like swapping in a 600mhz CPU and selling it.

Are you sure it is SLCD?
Do we have a really solid way to check this?
Probably by using image with different shades of black? Then turn the contrast to max or something.
Post comparison photo with your HTC Desire please ...
manook said:
Just picked up a new nexus s (new years eve) from carphonewarehouse in brighton and it has an SLCD. Is this common in uk as i thought it was just happening in russia etc..????
I have an AMOLED Desire so i can see a massive difference and about to return it. Any benefit in SLCD???
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Amoled or super lcd?

I heard that only at first Htc used Amoled display for Legend, and later on Super lcd. How to check the type of our scrren (display)?
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read the specs on back of the white box the legend was in

I just know about AMOLED Devices.
The switch from AMOLED to SuperLCD has been done at the Desire and as far as I know not on the Legend

I am very satisfied with display on Legend. Is there any significant difference (better or worse) with S-LCD?

well i compared it with a SLCD htc desire and i think the AMOLED is much better

Legend only uses AMOLED anyway, don't worry about it

S-LCD almost the same that amoled, only maybe contrast have some little difference
if i'm not mistaken

s-lcd
Super LCD is much nice when reading text and websites AMOLED is better for watching video,
SLCD is much sharper but isnt stand out bright and over saturated like AMOLED which is fuzzy and soft around sharp corners like text
look here and it shows you actual pictures were you can see the difference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire

jul644 said:
Super LCD is much nice when reading text and websites AMOLED is better for watching video,
SLCD is much sharper but isnt stand out bright and over saturated like AMOLED which is fuzzy and soft around sharp corners like text
look here and it shows you actual pictures were you can see the difference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire
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Note though that the Desire AMOLED had a PenTile arrangement which seems to account for the marked difference in the shift to SLCD. The Legend's AMOLED screen uses a conventional RGB arrangement so probably wouldn't have suffered the same comparisons had it also moved to SLCD.
This page has a good breakdown of the differences.
http://jtra.cz/stuff/android/htc/desire-vs-legend/display/index.html

Yes, you are all right. I have bought desire z and I can see the difference. S-lcd is much sharper, but amoled has much better contrast - black is really black
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Some webshops often say that the black HTC legend is equiped with LCD and the silver one with AMOLED. My collegue has a black one, I have a silver one and both have amoled.
You can easily see the difference when you tilt them. Amoled's colors almost don't change (even if you're almost at 180°), LCD's colors go weird...

kyomity said:
Some webshops often say that the black HTC legend is equiped with LCD and the silver one with AMOLED. My collegue has a black one, I have a silver one and both have amoled.
You can easily see the difference when you tilt them. Amoled's colors almost don't change (even if you're almost at 180°), LCD's colors go weird...
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Oh, Thanks ! Is that the simple way to tell ?
My new Virgin Mobile Canada Legend's box says AMOLED but I think the box is lying. Wonder if I can sue somebody, LOL, jk. I guess HTC may be at partial fault too since their spec page claims AMOLED: http://www.htc.com/www/product/legend/specification.html
I recall some article quoting an HTC rep saying the "backward" move to LCD would save power, but then tests (and common tech sense?) showed that was a lie. I originally was disappointed at the loss of AMOLED, but from what I've read though, I'd prefer LCD if given the choice, simply due to the better legibility. On the down side, LCD takes more power, doesn't have the deeper blacks and colors, and may be a bit harder to see in the bright outdoors.
Bell supposedly dropped the Legend because of the AMOLED supply issue. AFAIK all of the later (after last summer or there-abouts ?) Legends are LCD. Would be nice if we could tell via serial numbers or something.
My Legend's colors start going weird somewhere around 170 degrees or so (just a rough guess). So I guess I have LCD ?

You could also take a cheap microscope and look at the screen. The difference is startling. Amoled will be made up of a lot of lines, more red than blue (I think). LCD would look completely different
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TheGrammarFreak said:
You could also take a cheap microscope and look at the screen. The difference is startling. Amoled will be made up of a lot of lines, more red than blue (I think). LCD would look completely different
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With the screen on and white, right ? I tried this with a jewelers loupe and see lines about twice as high vertically as horizontaly (with the phone speaker up and mike down). It looks like there are thin red lines and thicker green lines that are somewhat blue-ish.
Would there be any difference in device drivers loaded ? I see a driver in dmesg with "oled" in the name.

This microscope diagnostic method will not work on Legend and it has an RGB matrix - the Desire LED had pentile matrix.
All you have to do is display a mostly black screen (the android settings menu is a good example), find a dark environment and look at the display. An SLCD will seep light from black areas where an LED will be an almost perfect black.
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i have legend with amoled my friend have desire (i guess it lcd)
i can notice his display has slight better screen in the menu like smoother or something but on the legend view aspect is higher than on the desire....
both of them are good

Display colors are not vibrant

I have installed SBF 1.5.2 right after I got my Atrix so I don't know if it is related to that but in my opinion the colors of the display are not vibrant / colorful compared to my HTC Desire Z (Vision/G2) and that phone has no AMOLED.
Compared to the HTC the colors all look a little bit greyer and I don't like it.
Is it possible to change that or am I the only one?
Thanks in advance.

You're comparing two different screen types. The Atrix uses TFT pentile and the Desire Z uses S-LCD. The Atrix is already known for some washed out colors like yellow.

Ah, thanks.
So it is not possible to change that with a software update like Google did in Android 2.3.3!?

I agree that the display is "not as nice" as other phones. My captivate IMO looks better.

yes the captivate is brighter but it also hurts my eyes after staring at it for a while. i wonder if there is going to be a program like galaxy tuner for the atrix. with galaxy tuner you can adjust the yellow color of the screen.

MaluNoPeleke said:
Ah, thanks.
So it is not possible to change that with a software update like Google did in Android 2.3.3!?
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It could be possible, we just need to tear down the kernel (once it gets worked around) and play with it some. It was kinda funny though because after giving my Captivate to my GF and getting my atrix, I look at the Cappy and go "Holy crap that screen is REALLY blue"

I was surprised on the Atrix screen. The forum didn't give it justice. The characters looks very sharp. Colors are easy to the eyes and no pixels at all!
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LastQuark said:
I was surprised on the Atrix screen. The forum didn't give it justice. The characters looks very sharp. Colors are easy to the eyes and no pixels at all!
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just take a look at your battery meter when it's green.
any green (like real green, not dark) text on the web shows the obvious differences between the PenTile display and a regular LCD.

IMHO the display of the Atrix is one of the worst displays in a high end phone that I have seen in the last time.
Only the resolution is great, the rest isn't really high end.
Yellow looks more like dirt and faster scrolling or movements show black shadows (e. g. in Angry Birds).