I heard that only at first Htc used Amoled display for Legend, and later on Super lcd. How to check the type of our scrren (display)?
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read the specs on back of the white box the legend was in
I just know about AMOLED Devices.
The switch from AMOLED to SuperLCD has been done at the Desire and as far as I know not on the Legend
I am very satisfied with display on Legend. Is there any significant difference (better or worse) with S-LCD?
well i compared it with a SLCD htc desire and i think the AMOLED is much better
Legend only uses AMOLED anyway, don't worry about it
S-LCD almost the same that amoled, only maybe contrast have some little difference
if i'm not mistaken
s-lcd
Super LCD is much nice when reading text and websites AMOLED is better for watching video,
SLCD is much sharper but isnt stand out bright and over saturated like AMOLED which is fuzzy and soft around sharp corners like text
look here and it shows you actual pictures were you can see the difference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire
jul644 said:
Super LCD is much nice when reading text and websites AMOLED is better for watching video,
SLCD is much sharper but isnt stand out bright and over saturated like AMOLED which is fuzzy and soft around sharp corners like text
look here and it shows you actual pictures were you can see the difference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire
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Note though that the Desire AMOLED had a PenTile arrangement which seems to account for the marked difference in the shift to SLCD. The Legend's AMOLED screen uses a conventional RGB arrangement so probably wouldn't have suffered the same comparisons had it also moved to SLCD.
This page has a good breakdown of the differences.
http://jtra.cz/stuff/android/htc/desire-vs-legend/display/index.html
Yes, you are all right. I have bought desire z and I can see the difference. S-lcd is much sharper, but amoled has much better contrast - black is really black
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Some webshops often say that the black HTC legend is equiped with LCD and the silver one with AMOLED. My collegue has a black one, I have a silver one and both have amoled.
You can easily see the difference when you tilt them. Amoled's colors almost don't change (even if you're almost at 180°), LCD's colors go weird...
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Some webshops often say that the black HTC legend is equiped with LCD and the silver one with AMOLED. My collegue has a black one, I have a silver one and both have amoled.
You can easily see the difference when you tilt them. Amoled's colors almost don't change (even if you're almost at 180°), LCD's colors go weird...
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Oh, Thanks ! Is that the simple way to tell ?
My new Virgin Mobile Canada Legend's box says AMOLED but I think the box is lying. Wonder if I can sue somebody, LOL, jk. I guess HTC may be at partial fault too since their spec page claims AMOLED: http://www.htc.com/www/product/legend/specification.html
I recall some article quoting an HTC rep saying the "backward" move to LCD would save power, but then tests (and common tech sense?) showed that was a lie. I originally was disappointed at the loss of AMOLED, but from what I've read though, I'd prefer LCD if given the choice, simply due to the better legibility. On the down side, LCD takes more power, doesn't have the deeper blacks and colors, and may be a bit harder to see in the bright outdoors.
Bell supposedly dropped the Legend because of the AMOLED supply issue. AFAIK all of the later (after last summer or there-abouts ?) Legends are LCD. Would be nice if we could tell via serial numbers or something.
My Legend's colors start going weird somewhere around 170 degrees or so (just a rough guess). So I guess I have LCD ?
You could also take a cheap microscope and look at the screen. The difference is startling. Amoled will be made up of a lot of lines, more red than blue (I think). LCD would look completely different
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You could also take a cheap microscope and look at the screen. The difference is startling. Amoled will be made up of a lot of lines, more red than blue (I think). LCD would look completely different
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With the screen on and white, right ? I tried this with a jewelers loupe and see lines about twice as high vertically as horizontaly (with the phone speaker up and mike down). It looks like there are thin red lines and thicker green lines that are somewhat blue-ish.
Would there be any difference in device drivers loaded ? I see a driver in dmesg with "oled" in the name.
This microscope diagnostic method will not work on Legend and it has an RGB matrix - the Desire LED had pentile matrix.
All you have to do is display a mostly black screen (the android settings menu is a good example), find a dark environment and look at the display. An SLCD will seep light from black areas where an LED will be an almost perfect black.
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i have legend with amoled my friend have desire (i guess it lcd)
i can notice his display has slight better screen in the menu like smoother or something but on the legend view aspect is higher than on the desire....
both of them are good
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The one thing I wish the EVO had going for it is an AMOLED screen. I'm coming from a Nexus one with said screen, and it's gorgeous. Almost useless in direct sunlight, but gorgeous. Now their was an early Sprint ?Coming Soon site claiming the phone had an AMOLED screen http://www.androidguys.com/2010/03/28/sprints-htc-evo-4git-sizzles/ ---but this was prob an error. My question is: is their a huge, noticeable, difference in the two types of screens? EVO owners, give me your opinions!
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The one thing I wish the EVO had going for it is an AMOLED screen. I'm coming from a Nexus one with said screen, and it's gorgeous. Almost useless in direct sunlight, but gorgeous. Now their was an early Sprint ?Coming Soon site claiming the phone had an AMOLED screen http://www.androidguys.com/2010/03/28/sprints-htc-evo-4git-sizzles/ ---but this was prob an error. My question is: is their a huge, noticeable, difference in the two types of screens? EVO owners, give me your opinions!
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Just had a live evo in my hands, and the screen is a beaut. I wouldnt worry about it not being AMOLED at all.
The screen is really a great screen.
I really don't notice much of a difference in colors / contrast / etc when compared to the ZuneHD, maybe it's the higher resolution / size that makes it look just as good.
meh, on the whole, AMOLED is all hype no show
AMOLED is trash I have a Nexus and an Evo and in direct sunlight my EVO is noticeable, AMOLED drains battery, LCD saves, colors are sharper but not brighter on AMOLED, brightness all the way up they both match up but the nexus(AMOLED) has a sharper scene
all in all not a big differ and Evo screen (IMO) has a better screen
1- colors are the same but sharper in AMOLED
2- direct sunlight LCD wins
3- colors are both bright
4- LCD battery saver
just a few details!
I thought that the amoled was more efficient.. so better than lcd
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I thought that the amoled was more efficient.. so better than lcd
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its not, uses more battery
Phone Scoop comparesEvo screen to Nexus One Amoled
See below for review comparing the Evo screen to the Nexus One Amoled
Here is the link to the full article.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=373&p=2666
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The screen on the HTC Evo 4G was, at times, a bit disappointing. Under medium indoor light, the screen is crisp and clear. Text looks sharp and legible and the dark, contrasty interface looks polished. Outside, the Evo 4G couldn't hold up to bright daylight. This made it tough to use for normal email and calling tasks, and nearly impossible to use the camera, since you have to tap an onscreen button to take a shot. In almost every way, the screen fared better than the AMOLED display on the smaller Nexus One. It was a bit brighter with warmer colors and much better outdoor performance. But it could still stand some improvement.
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its not, uses more battery
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Incorrect, AMOLED has no back light and consumes roughly the same power that a TFT LCD uses just on the TFT portion of the screen. The TFT Portion of a Active Matrix OLED screen controls light on a PerPixel basis, illuminating each OLED pixel at whatever color is required vs LCD where the current is constantly on(except in a pure 0 0 0 black pixel) and controlling the Liquid Crystal portion rotating the LC to whatever degree to allow the backlight(A large % of the consumption) to shine through at a given color. And because of AMOLEDs aforementioned lack of back light it uses significantly less power.
I'm also confused as to what you mean by "color sharpness" Are you talking about the actual edge sharpness of an image or the color reproduction.
In which case the color reproduction on a AMOLED is more SATURATED not specifically more accurate, though the increased saturation makes the image appear better on average because most people enjoy over saturated images. The contrast ratio, which is the ratio of black to white, e.g. when a TV says it has a 3,500:1 contrast ratio then the luminance of a pure white pixel 255,255,255 is 3,500 times higher than that of a pure black 0,0,0 pixel. AMOLED displayes typically have a much higher contrast ratio due to the lack of a back light and the fact they can produce much "deeper" black pixels.
AMOLED actually bugs me, not only are they useless in direct sunlight(which I find myself under quite often) but it feels like colors are often OVER saturated, like the reds and oranges on my friend's Incredible look awful while I've never had that with my Hero, some colors on mine might be washed out but I'd rather have that than have a giant hodgepodge of colors on an AMOLED.
Another thing to consider is AMOLEDs "burn in". That means that pixels that do not change on the screen for a long time tend to burn in and show permanent shadows. This happens on the status bar a lot since it is nearly always displayed and unchanging.
Here is a thread of NexusOne owners documenting it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673513
As of last week I just switch over from At&t to Sprint wireless. I had two lines on my contract, wifey with the Samsung Moment and myself with the HTC Hero just to hold me off until the Evo release.
From what I thought isn't the Samsung Moment screen also uses the Amoled technology and the Hero is LCD?
Side by side comparison from low brightness to 100 percent, the Hero display looks so much better quality wise compare to the Moment. Hero seem more saturated and crisp whereas the Moment IMO seem much more dulled. Especially in the setting menu with the black background, the Moment is kind of like greenish black whereas the Hero is spot on black. Outside I'm having a very difficulty time navigating around Moment (brightness all the way up) whereas the Hero is still manageable.
By any mean I'm no expert in this display stuff but this is just my own little comparison of what I've seen between the two display.
Anyone know if the Evo screen is transreflective? A related question would be, is it even possible for AMOLED to be transreflective?
I compared my Evo screen with my old Hero screen and the Hero was a little brighter and with darker blacks. Even between LCDs there are differences.
Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.
From what was announced only the nexus one and desire ee changed to slcd not the incredible.
My gf got a new replacement and hers has a purpleish tint to it when the brightness is low. A lot more noticeable then my phone. Looks like AMOLED though. The blacks are black.
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Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.
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HTC has publicly stated quite the opposite. The N1 and Desire switched to SLCD, but they have no immediate plans to switch the Incredible due to the change in the aforementioned two handsets alleviating the shortage.
htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.
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htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.
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HTC's statement, sent as a reply to htcsource.com...
"Because AMOLED supply is being relieved on other models, we currently feel we can meet demand of Droid Incredible with AMOLED screens. Of course we may need to change our minds and add sLCD screen models should demand continue to remain high.”
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http://www.htcsource.com/2010/07/ht...cd-displays-for-the-nexus-one-and-htc-desire/
Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens
There is definetly a difference between my original and these 2 replacments. I still have the original incredible in hand to compair with the second replacment.
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Look closely at the pixels for the pentile arrangement, if the edges of straight lines look like dotted lines, its still AMOLED. A good place to see it is to pull down the notification shade, and look at the edge of the O where it says Ongoing, with the pentile matrix on the AMOLED screen you can tell the O is jagged and not smooth.
Was wondering this too, my little brother just got an incredible and it looks fine in sunlight like my evo when they are both at full brightness. I also noticed that like the evo, on HTC.com the type of screen is not listed, just says touch sensitive display. Just last week it said amoled. He just got the phone this past Wednesday, the hardware version is 002.
After many phonecalls and internet research I found out they did change the screen to slcd. The sku with vw2 notes this. The amoled defintly has a better color balance but if you did know this you might not notice. Shame I think I am sticking with my original even thought the switch can be flakey at times.
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002 is the normal amoled. BTW, VZW got a froyo build that listed "LCD support" in the change logs, so they are at least preparing for the switch in case it ever does come.
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I'm on 3rd (hope last) inc due to warranty issues. Second was brand new, but had to wait due to backorder in June.
This latest one was a refurb, but looks and acts like a new one. I had some initial concerns, though. Just like the earlier poster, this has a purplish tint on the grays when using a setting dimmer than about 50%. I may not have noticed it if I hadn't had the other ones first. It's noticeable, but something I can live with. In any case, the display is crisp and clear, and the effect goes away as the brightness is turned up.
Awesome phone; even better thanks to XDA forums.
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Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens
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Too bad Samsung is holding those internally for up to a year in their own phones. By the time they release SAMOLED screens to other companies they've probably got something better already.
I don't worry about AMOLED vs sLCD because I got one of the engineering prototypes with AMOP technology (Active-Matrix Organic Plasma). Makes the production-run screens look like etch-a-sketch by comparison!
I'll be skruud if I ever brick it tho
i have the choice between the 2 different versions of incredibles. i have read some reports of possible battery life saved with the slcd, but i have also read where that information is false. i have read that colors are better on one than the other, but still not sure which one. i have read a lot, but still dont understand.
which one would you recommend to a new dinc owner? and why?
Thanks, Cody
AMOLED is a much better screen IMO
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i have the choice between the 2 different versions of incredibles. i have read some reports of possible battery life saved with the slcd, but i have also read where that information is false. i have read that colors are better on one than the other, but still not sure which one. i have read a lot, but still dont understand.
which one would you recommend to a new dinc owner? and why?
Thanks, Cody
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Its not even comparable: amoled hands-down.
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If you'r on the east coast get hte SLCD and I"ll give you my AMOLED Mines in mint condition and has a Zagg on it.
It depends on how you want to use your phone.
AMOLED:
[+] Amazing colors, amazing viewing angles, superior power management overall with BLACK being the natural color (meaning little battery drain when displaying black, which are PURE blacks btw)
[-] Poor text rendering when zoomed out due to the pentile matrix pixel arrangement, not as sharp as LCD, consumes 3x more power when displaying WHITE pixels, pinkish hue when low brightness and blueish hue when max brightness, some users have burn-in issues.
SLCD:
[+] Accurate color representation, sharper than AMOLED and has normal text reproduction. Superior power management only when displaying WHITE (natural color).
[-] Worse power management overall especially when displaying black (which isn't nearly as dark), warmer color hue, worse viewing angles
I browse the web a lot. The web is composed of mostly white background with black text. For my purposes SLCD would be superior. Hope this helps!
Div033 said:
It depends on how you want to use your phone.
AMOLED:
[+] Amazing colors, amazing viewing angles, superior power management overall with BLACK being the natural color (meaning little battery drain when displaying black, which are PURE blacks btw)
[-] Poor text rendering when zoomed out due to the pentile matrix pixel arrangement, not as sharp as LCD, consumes 3x more power when displaying WHITE pixels, pinkish hue when low brightness and blueish hue when max brightness.
SLCD:
[+] Accurate color representation, sharper than AMOLED and has normal text reproduction. Superior power management only when displaying WHITE (natural color).
[-] Worse power management overall especially when displaying black, which aren't nearly as dark, warmer color hue, worse viewing angles
I browse the web a lot. The web is composed of mostly white background with black text. For my purposes SLCD would be superior. Hope this helps!
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Thank you for this post... Others say this or that is better, but you say what pro's and con's there are and which is best for you. I salute you!
Yes. Thanks
Thanks everyone
Cody
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I compared my Incredible's screen to the SLCD of the Droid X and I didn't regret picking the AMOLED Incredible. The colors are simply so much better that I was willing to forgive the annoyances of the PenTile matrix.
probably a stupid question.. how can you tell which one you have?
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probably a stupid question.. how can you tell which one you have?
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look on your box at the model number or on your phone
if it ends with w2 then it amoled
if it ends with w3 is slcd
a few weeks later and i would of got a slcd glad i got my incredible while it was still with a incredible screen
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I compared my Incredible's screen to the SLCD of the Droid X and I didn't regret picking the AMOLED Incredible. The colors are simply so much better that I was willing to forgive the annoyances of the PenTile matrix.
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As far as I'm aware the Droid X doesn't have a SLCD display. It has one very similar to the EVO which is a normal TFT LCD panel (Sony's would be Super-TFT, aka IPS panel similar to what's used on the iPhone 4).
The colors are quite great though on AMOLED I'll give you that. The biggest inconvenience is needing to zoom in when you read web pages, but that's not too big of a deal.
I did, however, forget to mention that AMOLED screens can have burn-in issues
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As far as I'm aware the Droid X doesn't have a SLCD display. It has one very similar to the EVO which is a normal TFT LCD panel (Sony's would be Super-TFT, aka IPS panel similar to what's used on the iPhone 4).
The colors are quite great though on AMOLED I'll give you that. The biggest inconvenience is needing to zoom in when you read web pages, but that's not too big of a deal.
I did, however, forget to mention that AMOLED screens can have burn-in issues
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i dont know if it works on amoled screens but it did work on my psp
when i had a burnt in image on my psp i found a white picture and plugged in my psp with full brightness and left it on overnight
got rid of it too although thats not recomended
I wish my incredible had an slcd, I'll take the sharper image and text rendering over the saturated color and supposed battery savings of the amoled. The screen on by d1 is noticeably sharper than my incredible. If they wouldn't have used the pentile matrix it would be all good.
It really is a simple decision.
Text (static picture) then slcd.
Movie (motion picture) then amoled.
If you do both....then...ah...well,...OK...maybe it's not really that simple.
On a side note:
To this day, I have not been able to enjoy a full length movie on an lcd, doesn't matter if it 60HZ or 240HZ. I can't keep my eyes off the blemishes (pixelations on fast frame-dark scenes). Just like the darn captions, you can't get your eyes off of them. Most people say they don't see the blemishes. I on the other hand, can't keep my eyes off of them (the blemishes that is).
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i dont know if it works on amoled screens but it did work on my psp
when i had a burnt in image on my psp i found a white picture and plugged in my psp with full brightness and left it on overnight
got rid of it too although thats not recomended
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That was probably image persistance, not burn in. LCDS are very resistant to it though. I love the White notification bar of Vanilla android but using the AMOLED with the white notifcation bar would be reproducing the problems the Nexus one had.
If theres a way to get a brand new, SLCD Dinc and not a refurb I'd stock my phone and make the switch D
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That was probably image persistance, not burn in. LCDS are very resistant to it though. I love the White notification bar of Vanilla android but using the AMOLED with the white notifcation bar would be reproducing the problems the Nexus one had.
If theres a way to get a brand new, SLCD Dinc and not a refurb I'd stock my phone and make the switch D
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I'm happy with my amoled
Sucks the HTC might avoid using it on later phones
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A couple of gents I work with have EVOs... Every time I use them, I can't stand their displays. The colors are so washed out.
I can't speak for the SLCD in the newer Incredibles, but you can pry my AMOLED Incredible out of my cold, dead hands.
To me, AMOLED is far superior.
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A couple of gents I work with have EVOs... Every time I use them, I can't stand their displays. The colors are so washed out.
I can't speak for the SLCD in the newer Incredibles, but you can pry my AMOLED Incredible out of my cold, dead hands.
To me, AMOLED is far superior.
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i totally agree. i had the evo since it was released and just got the dinc. i choose the amoled screen and couldn't be happier. amazing difference.
My Amoled screen is great! Text is perfect on it and colors are very deep and vibrant. I compared it to my buddies iPhone 4th gen and he now wants and Amoled The screen on the iPhone is very good but the Amoled is just better.
i've had both and i DEFINITELY like the slcd. the amoled turns all blacks purple on the lowest brightness (slcd doesnt, its perfect) and the slcd is way easier to see in sunlight (half brightness on the slcd in direct sunlight is easier to see than full brightness with the amoled).
i wish i still had my slcd screen
Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, my main concern is - How are the black levels gonna be? I absolutely LOVE SuperAMOLED - Mainly, the blacks - I LOVE THEM and I'm sure many other users do. I don't know if the LG's black levels are gonna be as good or better? Does anything know that?
I have a choice to jump from the Gnex to the Nex4 but if the screen's black levels aren't as good - I probably won't.
What's your opinion about the screen?
Go look at a One X, it'll be similar to that (which is SO much better than the GNex screen - IPS ftw!!)
Yeah but the black levels
It definitely won't be as good. The question is, will it be good enough.
The apparent high end screen on my laptop has a rubbish black level. So I'm also hoping the Nexus 10 has good blacks, so I can use that for media instead.
But did you look at the Htc One X screen, or atleast youtube it?
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Yeah I've used the One X a lot of times and I'm not impressed at all. The color reproduction is good but the black levels don't amaze me, at all. I feel that my nexus' screen is much better than the OneX (Just my opinion, don't pounce on me)
With AMOLED, the blacks are black because the led's are switched off, it doesn't try make the colour "Black".
LCD screens do not do this. So blacks will be grey, but colours and viewing angles WILL be better. Another thing, AMOLED is a battery drain with anything other than the colour black.
OLED screens will always have darker blacks than LCDs. That's just due to the nature of how each type of screen technology works.
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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But your question meant that you don't. If you know this, then you should know about LCD too...
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I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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They will probably be as good as any IPS LCD on the market. LG makes very good smartphone displays, including iPhone 4/4S/5 displays.
Just look at the present ips screen on the LG top model phones, i'm sure the nexus 4 will be similar.
The blacks will not be the same as others mentioned but it's a tradeoff. Super amoleds have good contrast and blacks but the ips lcd's I've seen had better color accuracy and sharper images. I like amoleds but the whites and other colors aren't that good and the brightness isn't high enough for my taste. I look forward to seeing the n4 up close
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I have mixed feelings as well regarding the screen of the new Nexus 4. I also own a Galaxy Nexus, and aside from the black levels, there is another area where the AMOLED screens shine: motion handling. LCDs tend to blur images in fast motion, motion resolution isn't usually very good. This is very noticeable when watching action films or sports, for example.
However, AMOLED screens are very fast thus their motion handling is on par (or even better than) with plasmas, which gives you crisp and clear images even when moving (blur ocurring depending on the shooting conditions but that's a whole different story).
So, to summarize the differences between the screens:
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will be slightly clearer, the pentile matrix used in the AMOLED screen makes it slightly more "blurry", although due to its high pixel density that's usually hard to see.
- The screen of the Galaxy Nexus has perfect blacks, the screen of the Nexus 4 doesn't. The point is, will its blacks be "black enough" even for multimedia? "Black enough" is very subjective...
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will probably handle motion worse than the Galaxy Nexus one. The point again will be if it handles motion well enough.
It seems that the screen of the Nexus 4 is slightly better for reading and web browsing but slightly worse for multimedia. I only have a Galaxy Nexus (no access to HTC One X, etc) so anyway I can't really compare.
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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eksasol said:
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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The Nexus 4 will have better viewing angles than the AMOLED.
Sunlight will probably be better too. Colours will be more realistic, and battery life will be lower apart from on a black screen.
I don't like the oversaturated colors of amoled screens, and true colors are important in my work, so I much prefer a good IPS screen. Too bad about the blacks though.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
I would have to say my biggest concern is how the screen will perform in the direct sunlight. Of the phones I've had the gnex does best in direct sunlight. Very easily readable and use able in direct sunlight. All my other phones have been washed out in the sun. They where some form of lcd's, but not any of the newer generation super performing lcd's that are out now. The HTC Rezound I had was the best LCD screen I've owned. Amazing picture but suffered in the sun.
NexusDro said:
I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
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I think that's either black crush like the original note had or the black spots which nearly all amoled screens get because of the way they are produced.
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Just wondering. When the screen is off, why is it as black as the bezel around it, same on my One S, but on my Galaxy tablet and some other phones, it's grey and you can clearly see where the screen is?
I thought maybe the glass is darker, but wouldn't this screw up the contrast/colours of the screen? Or maybe the material doesn't reflect light as much, but what material is this?
It's the screen. Amoled's backlight is from the pixel itself and doesn't need any source for backlight. It's those backlights on non Amoled screens that make black look grey.
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Misread what you asked. Thought you meant when the screen is on displaying black.
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bigblue95z said:
It's the screen. Amoled's backlight is from the pixel itself and doesn't need any source for backlight. It's those backlights on non Amoled screens that make black look grey.
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Misread what you asked. Thought you meant when the screen is on displaying black.
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You're pretty much right. Its the sheet of plastic that they use in the screen. It all depends on what type they use. It varies from screen to screen. Samsung uses AMOLED screens so they use a different type of backlight. Samsung tablets use PLS though, which is like their version of IPS. They use a lighter backlight so it looks different. I personally don't like PLS screens or bad IPS screens (like this phone). The off viewing angles are pathetic. Good IPS screens like on the Lenovo Yoga or the HTC One are great, but otherwise I prefer normal LCD. Just my opinion
aooga said:
You're pretty much right. Its the sheet of plastic that they use in the screen. It all depends on what type they use. It varies from screen to screen. Samsung uses AMOLED screens so they use a different type of backlight. Samsung tablets use PLS though, which is like their version of IPS. They use a lighter backlight so it looks different. I personally don't like PLS screens or bad IPS screens (like this phone). The off viewing angles are pathetic. Good IPS screens like on the Lenovo Yoga or the HTC One are great, but otherwise I prefer normal LCD. Just my opinion
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Even cheap IPS destroys a TN panel..
I personally love IPS screens best.
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I personally love IPS screens best.
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Yeah but the viewing angles (in my experience) are bad if its not a high quality panel. I find the veiwing angles of this phone terrible and there's no denying it. Compared to the htc one, its horrible. I'm not trying to start a fight here, i know this phone is $300 cheaper than the htc one, but still, I prefer wide veiwng angles.
Actually my only gripe about the Nexus 4 aesthetically is that it's NOT as black as the bezel when it's off.. Sometimes it's grayish, sometimes it's actually darker (depends on the lighting). the Gnex was uniformly black when it was off (which is the one thing I loved about the design), while outdoors I can easily see the "gray" of the N4's bezel (screen if you're indoors) when the screen is off. Wish it was all black, looks much better that way.
The LCD itself is an important part of why it looks like it does, but the more important factor is that the LCD is optically bonded to the touch surface, leaving no space for light reflections, air, etc. between the touch surface and the LCD itself. In LCDs that are not so bonded you see light reflecting off the touch surface, but also light that passes through the touch surface and reflects back off the LCD surface. In an optically bonded display assembly much less light reflects off the LCD surface because they put glue or a similar substance between the touch surface and LCD so there's no air between them.
From memory it is the polarizing filter/layer(s) that dictate how dark the panel is when it is off.
aooga said:
You're pretty much right. Its the sheet of plastic that they use in the screen. It all depends on what type they use. It varies from screen to screen. Samsung uses AMOLED screens so they use a different type of backlight. Samsung tablets use PLS though, which is like their version of IPS. They use a lighter backlight so it looks different. I personally don't like PLS screens or bad IPS screens (like this phone). The off viewing angles are pathetic. Good IPS screens like on the Lenovo Yoga or the HTC One are great, but otherwise I prefer normal LCD. Just my opinion
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AMOLED doesn't use any backlight. IPS/PLS/TN/PVA/etc. all use either CCFL or LED for backlighting, the brightness/dimness of the light source effect brightness when the display is on but not when it is off.
threeclaws said:
From memory it is the polarizing filter/layer(s) that dictate how dark the panel is when it is off.
AMOLED doesn't use any backlight. IPS/PLS/TN/PVA/etc. all use either CCFL or LED for backlighting, the brightness/dimness of the light source effect brightness when the display is on but not when it is off.
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I know...I said PLS screens use a backlight, thats why they look different.
aooga said:
I know...I said PLS screens use a backlight, thats why they look different.
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You said AMOLED uses a different kind of backlight, AMOLED uses no backlight so no you didn't know; and no the type of backlight isn't why they look different when the screen is off.