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Hey guys,
I recently got a replacement Xperia from O2 after my old one had a severe backlight bleed, however, one thing stands out for this one with me.
The slider seems very loose, so loose that when you close an application by tapping 'X', the left side of the screen rises about half a millimeter.
Also, when the phone is opened, the screen is loose, e.g. shaking the device slightly causes the screen to 'Flap' in a sense.
I can't remember if my original had a loose slider, so fellow X1 owners....Is this common? Is it worth ringing O2 again?
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well, i have my xperia for some 2 months and the screen is also very loose, when i open it i can see that the right metalplate that holds the screen moves about 1mm up and down, the left one is steady in place tho... when it's closed i can even insert my touchscreen pen in between the screen and keyboard... it's that loose... i figure it happens over time... i never let it fall down on the floor and i always use a hard leather bag on my belt to carry it. It's a bit annoying tho, the phone doesn't feel nearly as solid as when i bought it. But the thought of having to send the phone for repair and have to wait i don't know how long to have it back, is holding me from doing anything about it...
But maybe it happens with all or most phones...?
Well, according to the staff at the service centre here, the looseness is cos of the curved sliding mechanism. Asked if they could tighten it and they said if tightening it would cause the keyboard to get scratched.
lol that's such a lame excuse... it was tightened when it was brand new lol
Mine may be a little loose, but it has not gotten worse since I got it a few months ago. It is as I expected from a slider phone. It still feels tight and top quality.
It's difficult to discuss things like this without trying your phone and vice versa. I guess if you feel your phone is too floppy and not as tight as one can expect, you should definately talk to the service guys again.
Mine is loose too
Since I got my X1 at the end of Oct 2008 the slider has become loose compared to when it was new and I have compared it to other new X1's in stores. I found that the backplate of the slideout, at the exposed long side of the phone, between the two "tracks" has come loose from the actual top part and this is causing allowing the slider to move. In the new X1's i checked this parts was firmly attached to the top part and the slider was very nice and firm. I think SE may have a manufacturing problem here and I've turned mine in for repair. It will be interesting to see if they fix it or come back and say "abuse". I use it professionally and I have a original SE beltpouch for it.
Apart from this little problem I love the phone and it's functions!
no kidding. my P has a little scratch from the slider being too tight.
apologies for bringing this thread back from the dead.
I've encountered the same problem and just had a word with the the dedicated XPERIA line in the US. I purchased my phone from Carphone Warehouse in the UK.
What they said was that they would need to verify the purchase of the phone. Once that is done, I can send it in to the service center and have it repaired. Not too sure if they're going to do anything about it, but they said it could take up to 60 days (!!!!).
Anyone had any luck fixing this without sending it in?
Have brought my phone to the service centre twice, both times with regards to battery life issues, and had at the same time mentioned about the loose slider, but never had they done anything about it.
A few days ago, I managed to drop my HD2. This would normally be a bad situation at the best of times, but this was from the top of my stairs at home. The phone fell through a gap in the bannisters and fell SCREEN DOWN on a stack of CAST IRON weights that were stacked on the floor below! I would've bet a lot of money that the phone would've been very badly damaged and was FULLY expecting to find the screen totally smashed with tiny splinters of glass everywhere. I trudged downstairs and, fearing the worst, picked the phone up and turned it over........ the screen wasn't smashed... it wasn't even cracked. I put the battery back in (which had been fired across the room from the impact) and turned it on... PERFECT. The case wasn't even marked or scratched.
Don't get me wrong, I count myself freakishly lucky, but I was truly staggered the phone survived that fall in the WORST of circumstances and didn't even get a scratch.
Just thought I'd share!
did u have any case on it ?
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No case. Phone was naked.
astonishing..
I am amazed as well at the durability of the hd2. Dropped a 3 month old iphone about 15cm off the ground and shattered the screen. Annoying cause of the $ but was an iphone so didn't really concern me greatly. Someone got a used ipod as the phone part died. Anyway so when i was putting stuff in a cupboard with the hd2 in hand inside the stock leather pouch, i tipped the phone upside down by accident trying to keep the pile of junk in the cupboard from crashing down and out of the pouch she slid. This dropped almost 2 metres onto concrete tiled flooring on the top right corner of the phone in what i can describe as an almost vertical fall. I was thinking that the screen was long gone too but to my amazement she was still running fine with only a very slight warping of the hard plastic shell in the corner from where it hit. You have to be looking for it to see the warp that is how minute the damage is but i think i tempted fate once too much also. But hey... a really good phone that has survived a bit already. The only downfall so far is it turns on easily when in your pocket on the plane.
it is tough. accidentally dropped mine from the dressing table to the hard woord floor. did not find a scratch
you guys are lucky, back in february when I'd only had mine for 5 days I dropped it taking it from my pocket, just over a metre, shattered the whole screen to pieces, still used it for a week or so before the touchscreen failed to, god bless insurance!
i felt it 4 or 5 times on the floor witbout one scratch, to be honest only few ones barely visible on the battery cover like 1 or 2 mm long. probably lucky too.
now ... i use my fixed on my motorcycle (gps), went for a 7 days trip with you can guess, a lot of vibrations and sun heat. nothing
I read on here somewhere that the screens most likely to break if the first contact between the phone and the floor is the bottom corner near the hardware buttons because of the gap for the buttons which makes sense........
I would have just sat at the top of my stairs crying if I was the OP.....
Lucky lucky lucky.....
The center of the screen is the place for it to be hit. It's the strongest part of the display, the further out from the center you go, i.e. the edges, the weaker the display gets.
Try smashing a window hitting it in the center with a bat, it will just bounce right back at you with considerable force, hit the corners and you'll get a lot less recoil and you have a much higher chance of shattering the glass. Of course this is just a very crude example of what I mean.
id say you just got lucky
I wish the crap LCD panels HTC use for the HD2 were tough. I have had to return mine twice since I got the phone in November due to developing white patches on the display.
Strange that my 3 year old 2G iPhone doesn't have the same issue.....
Pagnell said:
I wish the crap LCD panels HTC use for the HD2 were tough. I have had to return mine twice since I got the phone in November due to developing white patches on the display.
Strange that my 3 year old 2G iPhone doesn't have the same issue.....
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And I am sure that someone with an iPhone is saying the same about HTC phones. It swings in roundabouts, no manufacturing process is perfect.
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Try smashing a window hitting it in the center with a bat, it will just bounce right back at you with considerable force, hit the corners and you'll get a lot less recoil and you have a much higher chance of shattering the glass. Of course this is just a very crude example of what I mean.
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You owe me a new kitchen window.
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And I am sure that someone with an iPhone is saying the same about HTC phones. It swings in roundabouts, no manufacturing process is perfect.
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I must know about twenty people with iPhones and can't think of one who has had a single hardware issues with them. A couple of them dropped their's which resulted in cracked screens but that applies to any device with capacitive displays. I'm not an iPhone fanboy here, I love my HD2. But despite Crapple being **** when it comes to their obsessive control of what the end user can do (which renders their phones unusable without a jailbreak in my view), they are renowned for the quality of their hardware and for good reason.
I just find it annoying that I have had to return my Leo twice for exactly the same issue without treating it any different to my numerous other phones, and I have no doubt the same thing will happen again within 3-5 months. This points to shoddy materials.
Wish I could say the same for my HD2. Slipped out of my hand the other night and onto concrete from about 4 and a half foot up. Screen is cracked all over, gutted. I've dropped it before but its just scuffed the rubberised edges, made a right meal of it this time.
Pagnell said:
I wish the crap LCD panels HTC use for the HD2 were tough. I have had to return mine twice since I got the phone in November due to developing white patches on the display.
Strange that my 3 year old 2G iPhone doesn't have the same issue.....
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sorry for possible hijack, but were those patches that bad? I have some, but I am not bothered bout them as I can only see them browsing xda developers. (whiteish background )
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The center of the screen is the place for it to be hit. It's the strongest part of the display, the further out from the center you go, i.e. the edges, the weaker the display gets.
Try smashing a window hitting it in the center with a bat, it will just bounce right back at you with considerable force, hit the corners and you'll get a lot less recoil and you have a much higher chance of shattering the glass. Of course this is just a very crude example of what I mean.
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Good to know even the common house thief has knowledge to share with the community
bronx said:
sorry for possible hijack, but were those patches that bad? I have some, but I am not bothered bout them as I can only see them browsing xda developers. (whiteish background )
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It doesn't stop the phone being usable, but why should I put up with a defective screen on a phone that costs this much?
OK So I was wondering how do you tighten your hinge? I was watching this video on the Youtube. And lets just say, his hinge is actually really strong. I mean his hinge doesn't slide down to move around where as when I do what he does, it literally goes plop on me. So is there anyway to tighten the hinge?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUf8sKPUz48&feature=related
If you watch some of his later videos on the G2, he talks about how loose the hinge on his device has gotten. I don't think you can really avoid the loosening of the hinge. It is just what happens due to daily usage.
There have been discussions on possible ways to "correct the loose hinge issue" -- amongst those are the magnetic tape idea or actually having to take apart the device and stretching the spring.
There are already plenty of threads about this.
The hinge is not designed to stay closed when the phone is held upside down. Its been suggested by someone on here that HTC decided to use a cheaper spring in the hinge with a wide tension tolerance. People with really loose hinges mostly have springs on the low end of that tolerance. The guy in the video probably just has a spring on the high end of that tolerance. But most phones are still within tolerance and work as intended. A small percentage of Vision owners have screens that wobble when they type on the keyboard, or move when the keyboard is closed. In that case, those phones are probably defective and should be returned.
Besides, holding the phone upside down like that is ridiculous. I find it very hard to hold it upside down without touching the screen half of the phone (and any contact with it keeps it closed). I am very close to dropping the phone holding this weird way. Its virtually impossible to hold it this way with normal usage. Some part of your fingers are always going to be touching the screen, just by accident, and therefore keeping the phone closed. I use mine laying down all the time, and my phone never opens accidentally.
Reminds me of the old joke:
Patient: It hurts when I do this.
Doctor: Then don't do that.
If you really want to modify the phone to stay closed, there is the magnet mod that is mentioned in the previous reply. There is also a thread with instructions on how to take apart the phone and stretch the spring to increase its tension. This particular fix looks pretty complicated. And my instincts tell me that if you are not pretty good at this sort of thing, you will end up with a phone that is way more messed up than when you started. A complicated process, with lots of opportunities to permanently break your phone, for something that is not really an issue in the first place.
Mine was really firm at first but has loosened up. I can't see it as a problem because the only way to have it accidentally open is if you're holding only one half of it somehow
Mine was very tight when i bought it october 10th and now its a little bit more loose. but still nothing that affects me...
Virgin springs, i love em. No lose'y goosey.
Sent from my G2 running SparksMod HotSauce!
Ahhh well I think I'm going to just leave my phone as it is. The reason I wanted to know if there was a hinge fix was because when I lay on my said browsing my phone on my bed. The hinge is so loose the keyboard just slides to the side which is just annoying. That's just the main reason of my concern.
I cracked my screen pretty badly this weekend and am planning on ordering the replacement parts this week (debating the just glass or the new glass/LCD options). But I've noticed since then(last 2 days) the battery has drained pretty fast. Normally I get 2 days from a charge, today I pulled the phone off the cord at 8am and now at 3pm I got a pop-up saying <10%. The phone has only sat on the desk. No calls, no emails, no text, no web surfing.
Maybe the screen is getting mixed signals, being cracked and all.
Any ideas?
mattlikesbikes said:
I cracked my screen pretty badly this weekend and am planning on ordering the replacement parts this week (debating the just glass or the new glass/LCD options). But I've noticed since then(last 2 days) the battery has drained pretty fast. Normally I get 2 days from a charge, today I pulled the phone off the cord at 8am and now at 3pm I got a pop-up saying <10%. The phone has only sat on the desk. No calls, no emails, no text, no web surfing.
Maybe the screen is getting mixed signals, being cracked and all.
Any ideas?
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I am not really knowledgable about the exact interworkings of the HD2's internal hardware. But I do think it would be a pretty fair assumption that the cracked screen could be the cause of the sudden battery drain. You know your HD2 better than anybody else would as far as daily functionality of your HD2. So if it was not having a battery drain before you cracked the screen. And now you do after and this is the singular change in the state of the HD2 be it hardware wise or software wise. Then logic would say that is it.
Have you thought any about it might not just be the screen that is cracked. What about the internals. How hard did it hit, and how hard was the object the phone hit????
One last thing, be nice to your HD2, it is nice to you. ha ha ha....... But really take it easy on the hardware.
I trimmed the tape on it down to only covering the glass (finger protection mostly) and got it off the edges and out from around the back. This seemed to really help. I've noticed from the beginning of owning this phone that there are some sensitive spots on the sides that when pressure is applied the phone acts like a button was pressed etc. So I must have been causing this. Even with the screen off it was still reading a button push and having to process this action, using power.
I need to find a hard shell for the phone. The rubber thing that came with it is useless as it sticks in your pocket, I need smooth hard plastic I guess. The phone slipped out of my hand as I was getting out of the car and landed face down. Pure accident.
mattlikesbikes said:
I trimmed the tape on it down to only covering the glass (finger protection mostly) and got it off the edges and out from around the back. This seemed to really help. I've noticed from the beginning of owning this phone that there are some sensitive spots on the sides that when pressure is applied the phone acts like a button was pressed etc. So I must have been causing this. Even with the screen off it was still reading a button push and having to process this action, using power.
I need to find a hard shell for the phone. The rubber thing that came with it is useless as it sticks in your pocket, I need smooth hard plastic I guess. The phone slipped out of my hand as I was getting out of the car and landed face down. Pure accident.
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I too have notice the same thing about my HD2 that ertain areas around the edge are sensative, like you said almost like you were pressing abutton of some sort. I am glad you figured something out that helps stop the battery drain. I know that can be agrevating as hell.
If you have a T-Mobile HD2 like I do you could try the Body Glove. I have one on mine, it is a two piece hard plastic cover you HD2 slides up in. ig has a pull out kickstand on the back also, I really like it. It has help protect my HD2 several times when I accidently dropped it out of my hand. I do warn you though after having it on your HD2 for awhile it will make to little scuff marks of the clear coat on your battery cover. Also I have notice I have to make sure I have a ferm grip on it when I pick it up cause the plastic cover is a little slick not like when gou have the rubber case on it. I attached two photos of the cover, oh and you can buy it from T-mobile store or from the T-Mobile website. I suggest website it is cheaper there.
Introduction:
When a button mechanically clicks, that is the signal to you that you've done your part and you should expect the button to do its part. While I've seen this on several other devices, the Nexus7 2013 apparently has a widespread problem which manifests itself in "having to press the power button a certain way". This is caused by the glue used to assemble the buttons having seeped under the contacts.
Here's the fix.
You will need:
A gituar pick
Rubbing alcohol
A Q-Tip
Superglue
Instructions:
1. Remove the back cover from the device with a gitaur pick.
2. Peel up the tape/laminate covering the power button.
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3. Clean off both contact surfaces using rubbing alcohol.
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4. Reassemble the switch by replacing the tape
5. Using just a dab of glue on the edge of the button assembly, secure the button tape/lamination back into place.
6. Reassemble the device.
Conclusion:
And that's all there is to it. You may decide to skip the superglue during reassembly, but its a good idea to use it generally as removing the tape weakens the hold of the manufacturer's adhesive.
Make no mistakes, this is a manufacturing defect and you should have the ability to return the device to get a new one if you experience this problem. But, after this procedure, the power button should work easily, every time.
I was wondering if I was the only one!
So what else can we do while we are in there?
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I was wondering if I was the only one!
So what else can we do while we are in there?
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Xdatv is coming up on Wednesday and I will add that into here..
Glad to see the fix is easy. Not surprised to see the issue since Asus has just been making crap in terms of quality for a while now. Nexus 7 was better then I thought not having the crap asus quality but the new one has Asus all over it. Used Asus stuff for years and after the crap G75 laptop I had I will never get anything made by Asus. Sucks I wanted a new nexus 7 guess I'll wait till Samsung or lg or Motorola makes the third version.
Asus has just dropped off a cliff the past few years. They dident even go downhill they went from great to utter budget crap even the ROG line. Waiting to see the last great Asus products go down the same way. The Rog mobos. I was really hoping Google would push some weight saying they have to do some QC on the nexus 7.
Anyways great guide. But I'll add that on electronics you want 90%+ alch. Get the colorless with no scents added. Those leave traces behind. Should not matter on buttons like this but if anyone was wondering if they could use the red or green alch. I advise you to get the highest % with no colors or sents added. At my work for cleaning pcb's we use 98% but anything over 85% is great.
This is great to find out and I really want to do this as mine suffers from this problem quite badly but I'm hoping for just a bit more detail (and that it might be helpful for others as well).
Guitar picks come in all kinds of gauges. What did you use? (Or can you at least tell us if it was a heavy, med, or light by what manufacturer?)
Are the plastic pegs (or whatever is) holding the back on very fragile? And chance of a pic of the inside of the back so we can see where they are placed?
Thanks.
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This is great to find out and I really want to do this as mine suffers from this problem quite badly but I'm hoping for just a bit more detail (and that it might be helpful for others as well).
Guitar picks come in all kinds of gauges. What did you use? (Or can you at least tell us if it was a heavy, med, or light by what manufacturer?)
Are the plastic pegs (or whatever is) holding the back on very fragile? And chance of a pic of the inside of the back so we can see where they are placed?
Thanks.
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Medium is probly best. I've got a teardown video coming up on Monday.
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Medium is probly best. I've got a teardown video coming up on Monday.
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Thanks. Good to know there is a video coming. I got impatient and just went ahead anyway.
One thing I learned is to not start by the buttons if you can (even though the case is a bit weaker and more flexible there) because you can't really work your way around the bottom due to the usb port, and if you attempt to work your way around the top corner that has the camera in it you may very well crack the case there like I did. Didn't notice until I had it back on but there is a hair line crack running from the corner to the hole that the camera looks through. It's only noticeable if you really look for it and everything is held together just fine but thought I'd mention it in case it helps anyone else avoid the same mistake. I'd say that corner will be prone to that due to the camera hole being so close to corner edge that you are trying to pry off.
Once I finished I tried again with my brother's N7 but this time started opening from the long edge opposite the buttons and worked my way around the corner to the top edge. This allowed me to essentially just pull the case off the other top corner by the camera (with the help of a bit of careful prodding with the guitar pic) and then, once I'd freed the case from the top and sides, pull it downwards away from the USB port. (Probably obvious to most but I didn't really realize until I'd done the first one that the USB port anchors the case in place so the bottom edge must come off last, and be put back on first.)
Another thing to be aware of is that there is a very small black rubber grommet sitting over the microphone port (rectangular with a round hole in the middle). It fell off when I opened the first case but I just made sure to seat it properly before putting the case back on. It didn't move when I did the second case since I was a little less rough that time around but something to be aware of and look out for. It's pretty teeny and would be easy to lose without even noticing.
Happy to report that this really did the trick in both cases. Even though I couldn't see any glue on the contacts before cleaning, both units now wake/sleep with every click, whereas before it only worked 70-80% of the time.
I'm sure it will be worth waiting for the video Adam is planning but just thought I'd share in case anyone is as impatient as me.
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Thanks. Good to know there is a video coming. I got impatient and just went ahead anyway.
One thing I learned is to not start by the buttons if you can (even though the case is a bit weaker and more flexible there) because you can't really work your way around the bottom due to the usb port, and if you attempt to work your way around the top corner that has the camera in it you may very well crack the case there like I did. Didn't notice until I had it back on but there is a hair line crack running from the corner to the hole that the camera looks through. It's only noticeable if you really look for it and everything is held together just fine but thought I'd mention it in case it helps anyone else avoid the same mistake. I'd say that corner will be prone to that due to the camera hole being so close to corner edge that you are trying to pry off.
Once I finished I tried again with my brother's N7 but this time started opening from the long edge opposite the buttons and worked my way around the corner to the top edge. This allowed me to essentially just pull the case off the other top corner by the camera (with the help of a bit of careful prodding with the guitar pic) and then, once I'd freed the case from the top and sides, pull it downwards away from the USB port. (Probably obvious to most but I didn't really realize until I'd done the first one that the USB port anchors the case in place so the bottom edge must come off last, and be put back on first.)
Another thing to be aware of is that there is a very small black rubber grommet sitting over the microphone port (rectangular with a round hole in the middle). It fell off when I opened the first case but I just made sure to seat it properly before putting the case back on. It didn't move when I did the second case since I was a little less rough that time around but something to be aware of and look out for. It's pretty teeny and would be easy to lose without even noticing.
Happy to report that this really did the trick in both cases. Even though I couldn't see any glue on the contacts before cleaning, both units now wake/sleep with every click, whereas before it only worked 70-80% of the time.
I'm sure it will be worth waiting for the video Adam is planning but just thought I'd share in case anyone is as impatient as me.
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Awesome instructions! I couldn't have stated it better. It really is a tight case though. I think starting near the buttons is fine but I worked around the top corner.
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Awesome instructions! I couldn't have stated it better. It really is a tight case though. I think starting near the buttons is fine but I worked around the top corner.
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Yes, it is definitely much easier to get into the case starting near the buttons as there's more flex to it there. I suppose a better way to say it might be that if you can get started on the opposite side you will avoid possibly cracking it near the camera like I did. But you'd probably be fine starting near the buttons as long as you're very careful (and not as clumsy or impatient as I was ) working around that first corner.
I aint never had to open up anything like this and will have to to replace my screen. So glad I found this thread first and will be sure to check out the unboxing video before I do. and Yes isopropyl is a much better cleaner than other alcohol based solutions. Gonna do them buttons while Im in there.
I would not be nearly as daring to attempt any of this without the guidance from seasoned members. Thank you so much!!
Thank you so much! the power and volume buttons worked again flawlessly!
But I damaged my N7 13's thin black metal like bezels around the screen when I'm trying to open it, that stuff is really fragile :/
i did this, but i also placed on the power button contact a small piece of 'thickener'... in my case it came from a double sided tape. the sticky part contact on the power button contact, and the other side which has the cover (of the double sided tape), i didn't remove that cover. effectively, a small 'thickener'. then close back the device. fixed!
Adam, a quick question on this power/volume button thread. I got my Nexus 7 2013 version very briefly wet - I mean for a micro second. It does charge, but it won't power up. I can get it into bootloader and the volume buttons work, however, the power button does not. Is there a good way to test the power button using a multimeter or, should I just go ahead and replace the power button/volume button strip completely and hope that does the trick?
Thanks!
Chris
Chris: wet Nexus 7 bootloader only with volume buttons
Hi Chris,
My nan also got her tablet wet and can only access the bottloader with the volume buttons. Did you find a solution to make the power button work in the end? I've got a very useless paper weight sat around :/
Mike
I lost the rubber mic grommet replacing a cracked screen even knowing it was there. After 20 plus years coding with shot eyes, I paid my 2 nephews to come over and crawl around to find it (wife's phone - nuff said). Still took over an hour to find. So I put a small amount of rubber adhesive around the edges to make it fit snug. I've had it apart 4 times since and it stays put.
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