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Ok, long story short, this morning I was running and my nike drop flew off my clumsy hand, drop on the floor and bounce like two times.
The touch dual was like two meters away from me, screen facing down.
I approach it slowly preparing myself for the worst. I stand beside my nike looking down, it is a mess, white and gray dust completely covered the rubber coating. I got down and pick up my poor nike, flip it over and to my dismay... I got a sms from my colleage that my boss is angry.
Haha, its still working apart from the dust. I tried searching for any sign of damage after cleaning it with wet tower later on, but cant find any. Apart from 2 small scratches on the silver side(which I dont even sure if it is from the fall), my nike look out of box. Another thing is that the bottom of the front sliding body feels abit lose(can be push to slide left and right), not sure if it is from the fall.
So the story is, dont even bother with crystal case or silicon case, the rubber coating of the nike is strong enough to withstand a fall from your normal hand level and bouncing twice over two meters without so much as a scratch. Even the screen protector is unscratch.
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We don't like you either, woker woker
funny....my niki dropped from my computer table too and it was also face down he he he he maybe it's buttered side
Hm, one time dropped my nike and my battery fell off - when I switched my device back on (after placing the battery back in place, of course ) all of my contacts were deleted .
That was the last time I used a homebrew distro...
today was a horrible day...
apparently leaving your g1 in your pants while they are in the wash doesnt work so well.
does not power on
anyone have any idea what can be done to bring it back or is it most likely fried
and if it is done then does anyone want to buy it as is?
I guess this is an excuse to get a g2
*UPDATE*
I guess no G2 for me just yet.
My phone works great now. Did not do anything special. Did disassemble the phone though so I can wipe down any residue i saw on main components such as the keyboard.
My advice to anyone that has this misfortune is not to rush things. I think i turned my phone on 2 days too early but I got lucky and it did not affect my phone. I figured this out because there was a lot of visible moisture in the screen when the backlight turned on. The keyboard was not functioning correctly either.
I did leave it in rice for about 36 hours but I do not really think that did much as far as the drying process goes. Best thing to do is go to a hardware store and pick up a torx driver set(mine was $4 at Home Depot and it was 36 piece set including torx philips hex slotted and pozi) open up the phone *be careful* of course and let it air dry for 3-4 days (not absolutely necessary to take apart the entire screen but if you feel comfortable go ahead). While it was open I wiped down the main board and the keyboard. I did not take apart the screen because I just did not want to take any other risks(mostly because i knew the screen worked) even though there was moisture, I knew it would eventually dry out. But the key to all of this was patience(I know its tough to go 3-4 days without your baby).
the link for the service manual is http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf
Most of the time, phones can live through the washer and live. You MUST take out the battery and do NOT attempt to turn it on for atleast 48 hours, as you will likely short out the phone. Put the phone in a big bag of rice to let it soak up the water, also use a blowdryer to help dry the phone out. However, your warranty is now void, and there likely will be some remnants of water within your screen.
Yep! worst thing you can do is turn that thing on (or try) before its dry.
my g1 hasnt had a bath but other phones have (none with touch screens) and i take as much apart as possible and leave it that way till the waters gone (then like 4 more days just to me sure )
artifical drying sources reccomended (dont get too hot!!!)
I have had it in rice for about 24 hours now and its sitting on top of my dvr because it gives off a little heat so it should help the process.
just remembered that i didnt remove the sd card...
i was thinking that since it was in the washer with detergent, shouldnt i have just removed the battery and try to clean it in some type of solution...
I have read about a alcohol solutions but kind of scared and i just noticed that there is condensation around the edges of the screen
I'd say take it apart, Blow dry what you can, leave the pieces in a warm area for a couple hours, and then try putting it back together and turning it on.
anybody know how sensitive the screen is because i want to try and blow some heat on it but not sure if it will damage it
best part about handset insurance cover lost or stolen phones...hint hint
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best part about handset insurance cover lost or stolen phones...hint hint
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good point but im on att network using the g1 unlocked...
plus i rather not cheat my way out of it because this is my own fault
good news and bad news...
first of all it powers on and boots fine. Secondly the screen seems to be working perfectly (touch and all)
bad news i might have turned it on too early because screen still had noticeable water spots all over it. The keyboard also just spews random letters and commands (ie one of the letters controls the volume)
other good news 1.5 has onscreen keyboard
anyone have any advice on how to go about fixing the keyboard?
Advise for fixing the keyboard: take it apart and clean it.
ok well im taking it apart to clean it out and i see some residue but what should i use?
microfiber cloth?
cleaned out as much as i could but seems like the menu button is now acting up while the keyboard is still messed up
Aside from parts made of paper, parts with thin films (like the lcd), speakers, batteries, or fine parts that are difficult to dry, you can do a very neat job with 99% iso alcohol followed by deionized (aka distilled) water. This includes most (but not all) plastic casing, buttons, pcb boards, etc. Follow up with a hair blowdryer set on low heat (or if you have an electric heatgun, even better).
Get a semi-shallow dish, fill it with the solvent, submerge the part and scrub it lightly with a soft toothbrush. (probably don't scrub for polished surfaces like the exterior casing). Then directly rinse it under a stream of the deionized water. Finally, clean the dish out, fill it with the di water and scrub with the brush.
^ almost exactly what I did to recover a "dead" water soaked phone. Worked great, and learned a lot about how the phone is built
couldnt find 99% near by but got 91% which im assuming should work...
is it ok if i use bottled water(kirkland)?
oh and the spots on the screen are still there (light and dark areas)
thanks for the help guys
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couldnt find 99% near by but got 91% which im assuming should work...
is it ok if i use bottled water(kirkland)?
oh and the spots on the screen are still there (light and dark areas)
thanks for the help guys
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I bought my 99% iso from Safeway. It comes in a 16oz container. Look for it in the medical supplies aisles. Don't use bottled spring/mineral water, as that contains... minerals. You need buy deionized (also referred to as distilled) water. Distilled water contains a significantly lower amount of mineral ion, which for the purpose of cleaning electronics would be considered contaminants.
Do the spots appear to be blotches of moisture? Perhaps there is fluid trapped between the various layers of the lcd.
ok ill go check out safeway tomorrow morning. thanks for clearing up the water thing.
it looks like its moisture because after leaving it off for about 5 or 6 more hours i saw a few spots fade a little bit.
I will take the screen apart tomorrow as well. Any special instructions on handling the screen or even cleaning it?
You might want to search for the service manual for the G1. It details a complete teardown and rebuild of the dream hardware.
some sort of a miracle just occured because my phone is not acting up at all anymore and i didnt even clean it with the alcohol solution yet.
Just woke up in the morning and turned on the phone and worked perfectly, with absolutely no problem with the keyboard(except that i think i forgot a screw and a few keys are a little loose) everything works fine.
only problem is that the screen still has what looks like condensation.
but the blotches in the screen seem to be slowly fading. Gonna pop it open right now and leave it out overnight.
thanks for the help
oh and the manual has a few mistakes in it as far as procedure goes but any person with common sense should be able to get past those
Damn, thats rough man. I dropped both my old phones in the toilet(damn you superbowl, damn you!!!)and both of them worked after taking them apart and drying them off but never really worked 100% the same...
Just a note too, those were non-touch screen phones.
Best of luck.
Hey was wondering how is the screen holding up. Do you guys having any scratches on them or anything? I'm debating on whether to take mine off
It's a very tough screen, mine is still in mint condition w/o a screen protector, but I never leave any sharp objects such as keys in the same pocket as my phone either.
No scratch at all, looks like new... (other than the rest of the device).
And I never used any "protective" thingies.
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Hey was wondering how is the screen holding up. Do you guys having any scratches on them or anything? I'm debating on whether to take mine off
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I've had my HD2 for 14 months and there are no scratches on it at all. When I first got it I saw the well known youtube vid of a guy trying to scratch his HD2 screen and failing. One night I was drunk and decided to show this to a mate, so I took a bottle cap and went to work with my screen, as hard as I could! We were both very impressed at the results (or lack of), but I noticed not long after that you could see where I had scratched it when I'd run my finger over it. If I wiped it clean then you couldn't see it at all. It was VERY feint, but it was there when smudged.
However, it's now 100% disappeared, even after major use.
I used to have a screen protector, but no longer bother. It's obviously always recommended not to put your phone in your pocket with keys & loose change etc., but this screen is THE BEST screen I've ever had on a phone.
I think it only needs a minimum of common sense and it will live for a looooooooooooong time!
Took mine off month ago, and very happy I did. It did nothing but lessen screen sensitivity and slightly dull viewing.
The glass on the screen can't withstand every stracth known to man, but it's pretty tough. Usually, the people with really messed up glass dropped theirs and the glass BROKE.
Here's the scratch test video and here's another thread about this where others share their thoughts and experiences.
I have just avoided putting in the same pocket as my keys, so far so good.
Wow that's pretty cool. I think I'm still going to keep one on though. To me its sort of like insurance. I may not need it often, but when I do, I sure will be glad I have it!
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Wow that's pretty cool. I think I'm still going to keep one on though. To me its sort of like insurance. I may not need it often, but when I do, I sure will be glad I have it!
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AHHH!!! They really need to move that damn thanks button, but thanks for that
To be honest, if it gives you peace of mind and doesn't have an adverse effect (sensitivity & brightness mainly) then yeah, keep it on.
I have my HD2 about 1,5 years now, and the screen didn't have a scratch at all. Unfortunately the back plate loses it clear finish, but that's acceptable.
Almost a year and no scratches whatsoever. I do keep it in a case whenever I am carrying it around, though. The only wear I can see at all are some indentations in the material on the top right corner of the handset.
Hi,
Got a cover, no scratch at all, like many people, i don't mix keys/smartphone screen, the best way to damage it !
almost a year and no scratch at all. I must say I guard it with my life.
it never leaves my sight and is always in it's original leather pocket.
I had a HTC Touch Cruise before and it was a plastic restitve touchscreen.
Even that thing was okay and usable after 3 years... It had many deep scratches but with backlight on you only saw them a bit and it wasnt a problem for the usability
The screen of the hd2 really needs some effort to get scratched. In my opinion a screen protector is useless, because the power that is needet to scratch this screen would easily cut the protector
But i also use the barely there case, to avoid scratches on the housing (put some tape on the corners to avoid damage from case on/off). The screen protector that was with this case gives me a better feeling on the touchscreen, its easier to glide ^^ and i dont have so many fingerprints
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Fingerprints can be easily removed, you know
Mine is over 9 months old, still as good as new .
My secret is "The Magical Original Leather Pouch"
It never gets out of it, unless I want to use it
Is the camera lens cover made from the same material? Does it resist scratches as well as the screen?
I also don't use a screen protector. My phone is kept in a leather belt pouch, but is handled delicately (partially because it is expensive and partially because it is such a beautiful phone).
Got my TMOUS HD2 when they first came out, and screen is still perfect. I do keep it in a pocket by itself though, so no contact with keys or change.
Ive had mine around 14 months now, never used a protector and there's no problems at all with my screen. This is even after I stopped using the leather pouch a few months ago after getting an extended battery and even after dropping the phone a few times!
Almost one year without screen-protector and without case.
Not only one scratch on the screen.
I have two scratches on the screen, but you have to make effort to see them.
I took it to a sandy beach to read books every day all summer long, no protection whatsoever.
It's a great phone.
Got myself a DHD today and a copter for the screen!
But after I carefully attached it to the screen and turned the phone on for the first time, i saw the copter-fluid slowly running over the INSIDE of the screen.
Somehow it had seeped into the tiny cracks around the screen and gotten to the LCD.
The screen has a odd "3d" pattern with dots all over it now and i am quite devastated to see my new phone in this condition :/
I placed it in a small sealed box containing cat-litter and placed the box on a warm place (this was 7 hours ago), but i am not seeing any improvements.
Is the cat-litter enough to remove the water or is there another way to get rid of it. OR am i f*ed?
Hmm, are you sure you actually have a problem?
All DHDs have a "dot pattern", its a regular matrix of dots that is visible at some angles, it is normal.
It's hard to understand exactly what you mean without pictures, but having applied many of the protectors I really dont think you aught to panic
The spots are 3mm large and look a bit like droplets of water (randomly scattered across the screen), there is also "shady" parts around the edge of the screen. And these shades was what i saw growing when I turned on the phone.
I took the phone to the store where I got it and they advised me to get an insurance just in case the fluid screws anything more in the phone.
I will fix some photos tomorrow that shows what it looks like.
This is what it looks like, it is very visible from this angle.
The spot's have actually grown during the night
I keep the phone in a sealed box with a bag of calcium chloride (from a dehumidifier).
Wow. I honestly think you could be able to claim this on the DHD warranty.
I work in an electronics shop, and I apply Copters to peoples' phones regularly, generously using the spray liquid; it really flows all over the place, and I've never ever seen it get under a screen.
You should contact HTC and maybe complain about the lack of proper isolation of the display.
When I put a copter on my DHD the liquid was everywhere, I just mopped it up, sprayed the edges with compressed air and all was well.
I will do that if i dont see any improvements by tomorrow, i turned it on a few minutes ago and saw that the dark spots has grown a bit more.
Do anyone know where the moisture indicators is in the phone?
I found the one at the battery, but it was white.
Update:
The spots have grown even more
Thats why we all shouldnt use protectors that require any fluid to put them on the screen. It looks like digitizer and lcd werent stick properly to each other (as they are sticked) and fluid got into free spaces between layers. Electric toys and fluids based on water dont like each other % fluid are much better for such operations if u realy want to use any fluid to get bubbles off ...
And one more thing about pictures... Ure saing that spots ar growing ... i think they are not growing but fluid is getting off slowly from there and they are rest of it. At start there were only fluid on whole lcd now during getting off it stays only in some places that looks like spots. Leave it for a longer while and they should dissapear (dry completely)
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Have you tried sticking it in a bag of rice and leaving it over night?
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Have you tried sticking it in a bag of rice and leaving it over night?
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Thats very good idea!
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Rather than trying cat litter or rice, by some silica gel, you can get some from eBay, delivered next day.
Seal the phone in a small air tight container, packed with the silica gel and put in a warm place ~30c
If drying is going to help, that will get it dried quickly and thoroughly.
You may have issues with solute residue but good luck!
Thanks for the answers, i have put the phone on top of a bag of calcium chloride (the stuff that is used to dehumidify an entire room).
The spots grow faster when placed with the bag, so the water is probably getting sucked out as you said
Any news? Has it gotten any better?
Well, the spots keep on growing but at least the water is reacting to the calcium chloride.
For some reason it has grown a lot in the lower right part of the screen.
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Well, the spots keep on growing but at least the water is reacting to the calcium chloride.
For some reason it has grown a lot in the lower right part of the screen.
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I would just send it in for warranty. Something looks fishy. Perhaps the courier dropped it in a pond accidentally?
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I would just send it in for warranty. Something looks fishy. Perhaps the courier dropped it in a pond accidentally?
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I dont think the warranty will cover this, since it is probably my fault for not covering up every little gap or crevice on the phone before placing the screen "protection"
Update: the grey "cloud" is slowly covering the lower part of the screen. Something is clearly happening, for better or for worse is the question. :S
It might end up covering the whole screen then you won't even notice it.
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It might end up covering the whole screen then you won't even notice it.
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Half the screen is now grey, at least the spots are less visible ^^
Do you think i can use the phone in the meantime, or should I wait until it is completely dry?
My fingers are itching
Hmm, checked the oven, it can go as low as 35 degrees celcius.
Is that too hot for the phone?
35*c is fine, but you must be careful that the oven is indeed at that temperature!
You shouldn't really be using it (or even have the battery in) whilst it is wet, so i would try and avoid it if i were you
Alright, so today I decided to go swimming with my family, put on my swimming trunks, put my phone in my pocket and went outside to have a little cookout. Me being completely distracted and not realizing I had my phone in my pocket, I sat on one of the first step of the pool which is only like half an inch deep at most and quickly within a second realized I had my phone in my pocket and it got somewhat wet (Thank god it didn't submerge, just some water seeped through) and when I left my phone in the table to dry up as it was one hell of a hot day, I decided for whatever reason "The water will evaporate from the heat, should be fine later on", so I decided to go on with the day. Now about ~7-9 hours later I turned on my phone and thank god it is responsive and works, but the screen is quite white (I can still do normal things just fine, I can browse the web, watch videos kinda, and play games, just the screen is quite white now, so it makes it harder to see), so I was wondering what I could do to possibly fix this? Thanks.
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Alright, so today I decided to go swimming with my family, put on my swimming trunks, put my phone in my pocket and went outside to have a little cookout. Me being completely distracted and not realizing I had my phone in my pocket, I sat on one of the first step of the pool which is only like half an inch deep at most and quickly within a second realized I had my phone in my pocket and it got somewhat wet (Thank god it didn't submerge, just some water seeped through) and when I left my phone in the table to dry up as it was one hell of a hot day, I decided for whatever reason "The water will evaporate from the heat, should be fine later on", so I decided to go on with the day. Now about ~7-9 hours later I turned on my phone and thank god it is responsive and works, but the screen is quite white (I can still do normal things just fine, I can browse the web, watch videos kinda, and play games, just the screen is quite white now, so it makes it harder to see), so I was wondering what I could do to possibly fix this? Thanks.
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Oh and also, yes I did remove the battery and case and left it separated from each other to evaporate any remaining water (Cleaned it off with my shirt lightly as we had nothing really to actually dry it with that was soft)
Also, the water damage sticker is still normal, not red or anything.
I'd say it's a waiting game, hoping maybe over the next few days it dries out fully. To me it sounds like there's still moisture in the screen and / or digitizer.
Did you do the usual, placing it in a bag with raw rice. Supposedly it helps pull out the moisture.
I've had many phone take a complete dip, and only once did one not survive.
Good luck!
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Did you do the usual, placing it in a bag with raw rice. Supposedly it helps pull out the moisture.
I've had many phone take a complete dip, and only once did one not survive.
Good luck!
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No, we sadly for whatever reason did not have rice.
Also, it's mostly just a large vertical line probably like 3-4cm in width and covering the entire screen.
You might be okay, you might not. My LG G3 got a tiny bit of snow in the headphone jack and it thought headphones were attached even hours later when it was dry. In attempting to use isopropyl to clean the contacts, some must have got under the screen which caused the screen to have a lighter section in it permanently, although it did get much better with time. I am going out on a limb but I think your white section might improve in the next few weeks but I won't say it will go away completely. However, if it bothers you, the screen digitizer housing assembly is under $100 and very easy to replace with a small screwdriver and something to pry the plastic apart. I used etradesupply for phone repair because I've found that they have parts that are indistinguishable (for the amateur like me) from OEM parts. https://www.etradesupply.com/lg-v20-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly-with-front-housing-black.html