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Now that we've all had the phone for some time now, is this the phone you wanted? Does it live up to the hype?
I personally love this phone. I don't have any serious gripes about it. Mainly small things but they aren't a deal breaker at all. This phone feels great in hand and the keyboard feels natural. However, I never use the application shortcut buttons or the www. Button. Those feel like gimmicks to me. I would have loved a full 5 row keyboard but manufacturers seem clueless to that nowadays. The phone is still very fast and my hinge is still strong. Battery lasts me 18+ hours with heavy usage. Its great when you don't have to constantly worry about the battery level.
Can't wait for this bad boy to get rooted and over clocked!
From here on out I'm only buying phones with stock android.
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Amen. Ditched the vibrant for this and couldn't be happier.
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I am also completely happy with the phone. But like u said. I never use the www key as well as the quick keys. I would like a full number dedicated row.. but its not a deal breaker for me.
I can't wait for P. Root and wifi tethering!! (=
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Arcadia310 said:
seem clueless to that nowadays. The phone is still very fast and my hinge is still strong.
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I want you to post another vid of you demonstrating your strong hinge but this time give the phone a little jiggle now and again. I can do everything you did in that video but my hinge is far from rigid. Im on to you!
Weak hinge isnt bothering me though, although im certain this phone wouldn't survive a fall if the keyboard flops out on impact. I love the phone... keyboard could be better as you stated but im getting more used to it. The phone feels incomplete without wifi tether, but otherwise I love it.
Good screen size, good battery, good OS, good specs , good data speeds, good aesthetics.
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sinistersai4d4d said:
I want you to post another vid of you demonstrating your strong hinge but this time give the phone a little jiggle now and again. I can do everything you did in that video but my hinge is far from rigid. Im on to you!
Weak hinge isnt bothering me though, although im certain this phone wouldn't survive a fall if the keyboard flops out on impact. I love the phone... keyboard could be better as you stated but im getting more used to it. The phone feels incomplete without wifi tether, but otherwise I love it.
Good screen size, good battery, good OS, good specs , good data speeds, good aesthetics.
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No I will not. Why would I shake it? Why would I shake any phone? That would only damage my hinges and make them more prone to looseness. That video was a realistic demonstration for practical usage. I will not demonstrate anything unrealistic.
Yes, thank you
I love this phone coming from the HTC HD2 running android and a G1. The g2 is super fast, looks beautiful, perfect feel in my hand, my hinge is solid not loose at all. Can't complain so far best phone I've ever got my hands on.
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This phone is great. It's actually my first "smartphone."
I don't have any problems. My first time using an onscreen keyboard, and it's a huge learning curve for me though. I rarely use the physical key board.
I don't have that hinge problem. From day 1 I've had a case and I still haven't taken my screen protector off yet lol. I received my phone Oct. 3.
Stock Android FTFW. Holla.
I want to make a video for everyone about my phone, not sure what though.
And this phone is living up to the hype. The GMAIL integration makes my life a lot easier. Saving things to my SD card is simple.
I love the phone! It's a fantastic upgrade to my old G1. The only hardware option that I'd like is the notification LED off of the G1.
As far as software changes, I would only ask for 1 of two options.
option 1, phone comes with root accessibility.
option 2, phone comes with the ability to connect to IPSEC VPN, perform WIFI tether, and directly access my wpa_supplicant.conf file.
If I had either one of those things, it would be perfect
To me, these things are minor enough (and the root thing is (sort of) and will be solved). I love the phone.
Arcadia310 said:
No I will not. Why would I shake it? Why would I shake any phone? That would only damage my hinges and make them more prone to looseness. That video was a realistic demonstration for practical usage. I will not demonstrate anything unrealistic.
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Yo man just checked out your video about the hinges. My phone has a strong hing IMO. If I'm laying down my screen will slide down. But like you said in the video, I will have to NOT be touching the screen, because naturally, I would have my fingers holding it in place. When the screen is closed, I hold it upside down - No problem.
I'm coming from Verizon and I must say, the T-Mobile call quality is nothing compared to Verizon. One of your vids you mention how you can just take a few steps and your bars will change, go in and out of Edge or HSPA. That's not necessarily a G2 issue.
I dig this phone, and I've already rocked a couple of my friends smart phones. Holla
I have my third G2 coming the first of the week. So far both of the first two had loose hinge issues and terrible reception. In the same exact place I tested the signal strength with my Nexus One and Vibrant and the G2. The G2 was not even in the ball park. I do like the phone and believe it has tremendous potential. Other issues I have had include wall papers changing by them selves. Calls not ringing in and voice mail not registering. And the most irritating dropped calls. Just by picking up the device it would launch an application and deploying the keyboard will start up apps randomly. I did not touch the screen in any way when these things occur. Tried to launch Goggle Googles and a black screen came up and when I tried to back out it went to Google Earth. So far I am not overly impressed although as I stated previously that I do like the phone. If the thrid one has the same problems i will return it and wait to see what happens. I am hoping it will not as there is just something about this phone which appeals to me.
G2 + Vibrants screen(Amoled) = Game Over.
- Fly like a G2
That would be Perfect!!!!
Check out my video I just made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RZKHq6e1Ds
I am very happy with my phone. No problems with it whatsoever. It's everything I expected and more!
My hinge is somewhere in the middle between tight and loose. The screen will sometimes drop down if I hold the phone upside down without touching they keyboard. I have been using it heavily and have not had any problems with the hinge in normal use - keyboard open or closed - so it is a complete non-issue for me. I feel this is how it was designed to work.
The phone is blazing fast an the camera and video look great. No rebooting issues and reception is pretty good. I came from a Moto Cliq and the battery life and reception are both better on the G2.
tenbeau said:
I have my third G2 coming the first of the week. So far both of the first two had loose hinge issues and terrible reception.
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I have some of those sticky antennas that go behind your battery on order. You can get a 5 pack of them on Amazon for $5 shipped. I noticed an improvement on my Cliq after installing one, so I'm willing to bet it will help. I don't have any reception problems, but it's always good to have more bars. You just have to make sure to stick it directly where the internal antenna is.
Anybody know exactly where the antenna is in this phone?
Anyways... I want to say thanks for all the knowledgeable people on this board who helped me learn a lot about this device.
only issue is samoled is a samsung exclusive. regular amoled has too much glare. plus slcd is cheaper.
I had a couple reservations getting it, but I have to say I love this phone! I went from a G1 to Nexus One and now G2. This phone feels like a Nexus One but with a physical keyboard. I'm hanging onto my N1 as a companion/backup.
The G2 made me realize how much I missed having a physical keyboard....plus the radio and GPS on it seems to be superior to the N1....also being in a HSPA+ area is always a plus too.
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TheManCityLife said:
Yo man just checked out your video about the hinges. My phone has a strong hing IMO. If I'm laying down my screen will slide down. But like you said in the video, I will have to NOT be touching the screen, because naturally, I would have my fingers holding it in place. When the screen is closed, I hold it upside down - No problem.
I'm coming from Verizon and I must say, the T-Mobile call quality is nothing compared to Verizon. One of your vids you mention how you can just take a few steps and your bars will change, go in and out of Edge or HSPA. That's not necessarily a G2 issue.
I dig this phone, and I've already rocked a couple of my friends smart phones. Holla
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Yeah that's definitely a problem with T-Mobile; I believe I mention that in the video. I can remember 2 years ago when I had a Sidekick I would get horrible signal while inside of buildings. I would be in class and have no signal. Now with the G2 I can walk literally 10 feet and my signal will fluctuate like crazy.
I'm sending mine back and sticking with my G1 for the following reasons:
1) In the upper right corner of market, it has a link to TMobile apps instead of my Downloads (I so hate them for that!)
2) I hate the hardware keyboard / hinge slider.
a) slider slides closed while holding and typing fast
b) impossible to type < or > with hardware keyboard (even with SYM key software popup).
c) Keys too wide and letters off-center.
d) No number row sucks, too much use of function key.
e) Although the touch pad is about the same as the rolly-ball, they both suck compared to 4 arrow keys on the keyboard.
f) I also prefer the 4 function keys as hard keys instead of softkeys.
3) Battery is worse then G1 in edge-case areas (2G/3G), but I do admit battery is better then G1 in solid 3G area.
4) Notification lights. I have not known about many missed calls/texts that I would have seen much earlier using my G1.
5) Although I love the proximity sensor in theory, I guess I don't hold my phone correctly for it because I have already hit keys while talking more than I have in 2 years with the G1.
6) microUSB port on left side instead of bottom makes it impossible to hold the phone while it is charging (I am left handed).
7) Buggy, I've had a few crashes, and the camera got stuck running or something once because barcode scanner claimed it was in use and even after I tried to kill everything the battery drained from 60% to 0% within like 15 min in my pocket. Also had apps like Google Earth and some root apps lockup.
8) External speaker sounds tinny as hell.
9) You can't swap the microSD card without removing the battery.
10) Too expensive... I'll wait until my contract is fully up in march so I get a better discount, but I'm hoping there is a better GSM phone my then. If the Epic 4G worked on TMobile (or if Sprint worked at my house), I would take that over the G2 in a second purely for the better hardware keyboard design.
After all is said and done and you get CM6 or some other custom rom on your phone, all Android phones are basically the same, other than design and speed. G1 is dog slow, but it can still do EVERYTHING the G2 can, as can any other rooted Android phone. (except play flash as well, G1 hacks for flash are still lacking)
I am completely happy with my G2. I haven't had any major issues whatsoever, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else currently on the market. There is also nothing in the near future that I've seen (MyTouch HD, WP7, etc.) that will make me regret buying the G2. My next phone will likely be the G3!
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I was in Wal-Mart today and decided to check out the G2 on display .
I started playing with the hinge and it felt like it was definitely spring
loaded or tension loaded in some way . It felt great while playing with
it and the hinge design had a very positive "snap" opening and closing
into place . Even when shook upside down the screen absolutely would
not come down . It actually took quite a bit of effort to open and close.
So I asked the rep behind the counter to see a brand new G2 to see if
it had the same design , but to no avail it did not . The brand new G2
right out of the box felt like my G2 that I own . The display model weight
was right on to the actual phone weight . It had a real camera eye and LED
flash , trackpad was like a real G2 , etc . so the weight of the screen was
almost on par with a real device . There definitely was not enough weight
differences between the decoy and real device to make this drastic differences
between the hinges . Thoughts ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DTZ6ecBItE
That's not even a real phone! You're a real bright one.
If you werent a ****ing retard maybe you would read THE WEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PHONES WERE THE SAME !!!!!
Stores never use real phones as dummy units. If the phone was live that would be a different story.
It doesnt matter if the phone was live or not . The hinge doesnt know if its
a decoy or not . The weight of the screen and phone itself was extremely
comparable . If they weigh that close to each other then why does it act that
way ? There was a major difference between the two to just write off .
From the video the G2 looks incredibly plasticy and light weight. It just looks off to me.
It was the exact replica with working parts . I was kinda thrown off to be honest . Its
the only decoy phone Ive ever seen that wasnt "fake" . All the buttons pressed down
and wasnt plasticy by any means .
I absolutely would not pass that off. Dummies are simply the advertised phone with the internals and screen removed and compensated for. I played with the dummy G2 at Radioshack, and it felt just like the one I had returned (for various reasons) just before; the hinge was fairly loose and the weight felt proper.
Here's hoping that it's a sign of the future. Maybe late production units were changed? If not, I can always dream...
EfemaN said:
I absolutely would not pass that off. Dummies are simply the advertised phone with the internals and screen removed and compensated for. I played with the dummy G2 at Radioshack, and it felt just like the one I had returned (for various reasons) just before; the hinge was fairly loose and the weight felt proper.
Here's hoping that it's a sign of the future. Maybe late production units were changed? If not, I can always dream...
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Its a possibility, but the G2 in the video just looks off to me for some reason. If they did fix the hinge how could I get a new one? I'm outside of my buyers remorse period.
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Arcadia310 said:
Its a possibility, but the G2 in the video just looks off to me for some reason. If they did fix the hinge how could I get a new one? I'm outside of my buyers remorse period.
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You can't, bright one.
AZ2ENVY said:
I was in Wal-Mart today and decided to check out the G2 on display .
I started playing with the hinge and it felt like it was definitely spring
loaded or tension loaded in some way . It felt great while playing with
it and the hinge design had a very positive "snap" opening and closing
into place . Even when shook upside down the screen absolutely would
not come down . It actually took quite a bit of effort to open and close.
So I asked the rep behind the counter to see a brand new G2 to see if
it had the same design , but to no avail it did not . The brand new G2
right out of the box felt like my G2 that I own . The display model weight
was right on to the actual phone weight . It had a real camera eye and LED
flash , trackpad was like a real G2 , etc . so the weight of the screen was
almost on par with a real device . There definitely was not enough weight
differences between the decoy and real device to make this drastic differences
between the hinges . Thoughts ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DTZ6ecBItE
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Seriously dude r you that ****ing dumb that no one here will find out that it is a dummy phone
someone should ban him from here and send him to cell phone for dummies class
vikramdhani said:
Seriously dude r you that ****ing dumb that no one here will find out that it is a dummy phone
someone should ban him from here and send him to cell phone for dummies class
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He never once said its a real phone you dumb ****. Learn to ****ing read.
Wow! Y'all need to calm down... enough cursing, please! Some display models are working ones while others are dummies. If you have the lose hinge problem... send it back. Simple..
Arcadia310 said:
Its a possibility, but the G2 in the video just looks off to me for some reason. If they did fix the hinge how could I get a new one? I'm outside of my buyers remorse period.
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Its time to call Asurion, LMAO
Eh... I'd rather just deal with it then ante up another $120
if the heavy screen were removed and replaced with cheap plastic then there is no way the screen section of the phone could be as heavy as the screen part of a real G2. The screen section of the real G2 is quite heavy
The REAL phone I messed with a local TMO store worked exactly like the video.
The hinge is in fact spring loaded and those that have gimped hinges with screens that fall are defects.
Call Tmobile and tell them the issue your having with your phone. They will send you another phone.
Arcadia310 said:
Its a possibility, but the G2 in the video just looks off to me for some reason. If they did fix the hinge how could I get a new one? I'm outside of my buyers remorse period.
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It doesn't matter if they weigh the same, demo units don't use real buttons and do not have mother boards or screens on them, they are to display how it would look, not run or feel. Sorry but you can't back up your theory...
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Smokexz said:
It doesn't matter if they weigh the same, demo units don't use real buttons and do not have mother boards or screens on them, they are to display how it would look, not run or feel. Sorry but you can't back up your theory...
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Really ? Then explain to me why the demo in the video did in fact have REAL
buttons smart guy ?!?!
Hey guys, I was just wondering what were your opinions on the g2, and why did you guys pick the mt4g over the g2? I have a g2 myself, and I think it is a fantastic phone. I checked out the mt4g today, and I thought it looked pretty weird and awkwardly designed.
I do not mean to offend anyone, I was just interested in why you decided to pick the mt4g instead of the g2. The mt4g's material just felt weird to me, because it was mixed with plastic and metal, while the g2 has a consistant aluminum feel to it, which makes it seem like a high end device. Also the sense ui seemed downright silly. Then again it might just be me. I also see a lot of people returning their g2 for a mt4g.
What are your opinions/reasons for sticking with the mt4g?(Do you think the mt4g is aesthetically pleasing as the other phones?) Thanks.
I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
Stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
The only other things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera, metal contacts on the side for a dock, and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. Being able to use a dock is nice, although I don't know if I'll ever even buy one. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Last but not least, the genius button. At first, this seemed like a gimmick, but it's actually become one of the reasons I may end up keeping this over the G2. I'll illustrate the power of this little button for you. On both phones, this is how you would send a text message by voice:
G2: Press and hold the search button. Say, "Text John Smith." The text message window appears. You tap the message body, then tap the microphone button. Then you say, "This is a test message." Then you read your message and make sure it looks right. Then you tap send.
myTouch: Press the genius button. Say, "Send text to John Smith." The text message window appears, and a voice asks, "Would you like to dictate?" You say, "Yes." It prompts you to speak, and you say, "This is a test message." It then says, "This is a test message. Would you like to send this message?" You say, "Yes."
On G2, you had to look at your phone 3 different times, read your text message, and press several buttons. On the myTouch, you never looked at your phone, and pressed one button. Obviously if you want to text and drive, the myTouch is the phone for you.
So after all that, did I really sway you one way or the other? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. If you're on the fence, try out the genius button, it may sway your decision.
I had a Nexus One, I liked the idea of the G2, but it was basically exactly the same phone I had in my N1, just with a keyboard and a slightly slower processer. It wasn't worth paying money for something that was going to be the same performance I already had but more weight and bulk.
The MT4G has a faster processor, slightly larger screen, a lot more RAM, a lot more internal memory and I'm starting to like Sense.
I said I would only upgrade my N1 if I found something better, and the MT4G is better, the G2 is basically a Nexus One with a keyboard.
I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
One thing I disagree with is the hard vs. soft keys. I prefer the hard keys. I am sick having to hit a soft key over and over and not have it respond. With the hardware buttons there is no question... just a satisfying click.
I haven't had a single hiccup since I have had my MT4G... so far it is one of the best phones I have ever used... well, one issue... downloading apps off wifi seems to be hit or miss.
RealityDesign said:
I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
The only other two things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Lastly, stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
So after all that, did I tell you anything of value? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. The end.
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I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
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I edited my post, adding one other thing that I really like about the phone (that I didn't think I would at first) and that's the genius button. Texting without ever looking at your phone is very powerful.
@realitydesign, thanks for the info, it did give me more insight on the mt4g. I did play with the genius button, but I thought it was just another useless bloatware so I quit it.(didnt want to quote you because you posted a pretty long response. I appreciate your opinion, thanks.)
@CyberStorm98, the g2 has a newer processor that outperforms the n1 actually...
Overall I like it a lot more than my G2. Better look overall, feels better in the hand (much, much thinner), glass screen, ffc, customizable LED notification light, the phone is pure win. I like the design of this phone a lot.
If there is an iPhone killer, this is definitely it.
Also, only the white myTouch 4G's have plastic on them. The plum, black, and red models all feature hard rubber.
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My Touch 4G
1GHz - Snapdragon
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 768MB
3.8 inch LCD
Htc G2
800 MHz - Qualcomm
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 512 MB
3.7 inch LCD
So the Mytouch 4g Processor is 200mhz faster (stock) u cant compare the g2 to the mytouch 4g when its overclocked cause thats not a fair comparison.
Mytouch 4g Ram is 256 MB More In Then G2
so the mytouch 4g should be faster but idk if sense ui slows it down vs stock android but thats the only difference in the two that matters
My wife and I are both former G1 users who got them on the initial pre-order. Last July, I replaced my G1 with a Vibrant, while my wife kept hers, in light of rumors that were circulating about the upcoming G2. The Vibrant turned out to be one enormous problem, with nothing more than a gorgeous SAMOLED screen to save it.
The G2's release coincided with my wife's birthday, so I bought it for her. I immediately felt phone envy, as the user experience of the G2 is far superior to the Vibrant. Although I almost bought a G2 as well, I decided to wait for the MT4G, which, by that time, was rumored to be released in November.
So far, the MT4G has been leaps and bounds better than the Vibrant. Yes, the screen is definitely not as beautiful. However, absolutely everything else is far superior. How does the MT4G stack up against the G2?
Both are fantastic phones, geared toward two completely different groups of users. Want vanilla Android and a physical keyboard? The G2 is for you. Want a front-facing camera, Sense UI, and don't care for the physical keyboard? Get the MT4G.
When it comes to the physical buttons on the MT4G, you either love them or hate them. Personally, after using the Vibrant for nearly 4 months, physical buttons are a welcome relief. Every now and then, I'd accidentally touch one of Vibrant's tactile buttons while doing something, causing the phone to perform undesired functions. It didn't happen often, but it surely got annoying when it did.
Since the G2 is underclocked and has less RAM than the MT4G, it's slightly less snappy, but it's not really noticeable during daily use. Again, one phone is not better than the other. Both are equipped with different sets of features for different sets of users.
Its all about perspective, and taste. If you like typing and browsing the web than the g2 would fit you perfectly.. if you like the idea of having two cameras and a slimmer device than go for the MYT4G
FROM MY SEXY COLD GLACIER
Its up to you really. For some reason I like how g2 doesnt suck up so much memory ram. Mytg4 pretty much uses all its memory
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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I never would have thought of running it 3 times in a row (even though every benchmark I run on a PC I run 3 times) - I ended up eeking out 1922 from the 3rd run.
Trying the 4th time now LOL
WOW - 4th time dropped like a rock! 1653!
Makes me wonder how much credit you REALLY can give to quadrant - especially with the scores that people are getting on a Vibrant with lag fix (I was one of those people). I felt a slight increase in speed on the lagfix, but not enough to justify benchmark scores nearly triple of the originals.
picked a myTouch 4G because i did not like the bulky keyboard
not to mention that the mytouch 4G has a front camera to boot..
I brought back my MT4G and got the G2 and here are my observations....
1) The screen is nicer on the G2 - not that the MT4G screen was bad, this just seems a little more... balanced.
2) I can't quite understand why a "vanilla" android phone (G2) is still running 2.2 when the MT4G that is all MySensed-out has 2.2.1 !
3) The keyboard is really nice, but the hinge is HORRIBLE.
4) I like the lighted notification "Ring" around the trackpad, something the MT4G doesn't have.
5) (I knew this already but I have to put it out there) Stock android's email client works, but doesn't quite have the flair that MySense's email client has.
6) The screen doesn't seem as responsive as the MT4G - not that it's bad, but just not quite as good.
All in all, the G2 is going back and I'm getting my MT4G back tomorrow morning. The hinge issue, well, lets just say that HTC should never had let these out the door like this, and T-Mobile should never have accepted them in this condition. The hinge is a deal breaker for an otherwise VERY nice phone. They should not be charging $50 more for this phone either.
all i gotta say is, myTouch 4G White , Best Phone,.Stock since day 1 no problems yet, battery pretty good,. flawless wifi router.loudspeaker. crisp screen.new to genius button but its been pretty useful, if ur in to Full handsfree mode.
Was sitting in the same boat. Got the G2 first (coming from a Nexus) and decided to give the MT4G a try when it came out.
Looks and size:
At first I found the G2 a lot more aesthetically appealing although I immediately noticed how much thinner and lighter the MT4G felt. Coming from the N1 it took a bit of adjustment to get used to the size and weight of the G2 and the physical keys on the MT4G. Having said that I really like how the G2 lays in your hand when you're web browsing with the keyboard open.
Look wise the MT4G is definitely not a Nexus 2. In my opinion the aluminum rim looks a little out of place and I don't like how the battery cover doesn't match with the colors on the red and plum model. On the black model the aluminum does not stand out as much because it blends in nicely with the black. Since it's more subtle it actually ends up looking quite good. I definitely could have gone with soft buttons instead of the physical ones but that's my personal preference.
Keyboard:
Whether you want a keyboard or not definitely comes down to personal preference. It's nice to have one but you pay for it in additional size and weight. The keyboard got great reviews so I assume a lot of people like it. I personally wasn't a big fan. Typing seemed slower and more strenuous than on my G1 because of the large keys and lack of dedicated number keys. I would have liked it better with 4 rows instead of 3 (bringing back the numbers) and smaller keys to start with. I also never quite got used to the special function keys HTC decided to add. Due to their prominent positioning one is quite prone to accidentally hitting them.
One major flaw of the keyboard is that you have no control over the keyboard backlighting. Until some custom rom fixes the issue, the light will come on and off and on and off etc when you're inside because the light sensor can't make up its mind. I found myself more than once covering the light sensor with my finger to force the backlight to come on because I had problems seeing the keys in the light condition I was in and had no way of forcing it to stay on.
Build quality:
When you put the phones next to each other you'll notice that most of the materials are the same. Both have metal battery covers and use hard rubber for the rest. Even the screens are identical (despite some rumors going around). The main difference is the front of the G2 with the soft keys vs plastic physical keys on the MT4G. G2 wins hands down in that area but I don't think this difference is nearly as significant as the controversial hinge when talking about quality and durability. I guess only time will tell how that'll play out. Considering how many people have sent their G2 back because of the hinge you should be prepared that it MIGHT be a problem in the long run.
Operating system/interface:
Since we have root there's really no point in comparing sense (+ genius button) to stock since you'll eventually be able to run either one on either device. It might be more important to consider dev support. So far the G2 seems to have more support but you also have to keep in mind that the MT4G has barely been out for a week. That considered it still got root the same day the G2 did and ClockworkMod recovery was ported to the MT4G 8 hours after the G2 got it. I even already saw pictures of a MT4G running an experimental version of CyanogenMod 6. Since the devices are so similar you can expect that most stuff for the G2 will be ported to the MT4G rather quickly and vice versa. One other thing to consider is that video chat will probably be an integral part of gingerbread. Makes me wonder how the G2 will hold up in the android 3.0 era (although I'm sure custom roms will work around it).
Unique features:
G2: keyboard, click mechanism for battery cover
MT4G: front facing camera (FFC), 256MB additional RAM, 100 mAh better battery, hot swappable micro sd card
Verdict:
Both are great phones. I ended up picking the MT4G (black) because size mattered more to me than the keyboard and I liked the additional ram. I also liked having the FFC. Those are things no custom rom can add and ended up mattering more to me than aesthetics. I also noticed my hinge getting slightly looser during the 3 weeks I had the G2 which worried me a little. If you want a keyboard however, or really dig that clean cut business look, the G2 is your phone. Good luck deciding.
I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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The screens are exactly the same. It's the software which is causing the difference.
Currently using a Nexus One, actually have 2 of them. Have the opportunity to make a straight trade for a G2 for one of my N1's.
Other than the keyboard and "4G" connection, is there anything that really is different about these hardware wise?
I know the N1 will get updates faster, but with the use of custom roms this does not affect me. Also, dont have much use for a keyboard, so would this even be a beneficial trade in anyway?
Guess i am just a little confused, any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
G2 is pretty much better in every way except the screen. I have both.
I had a Nexus One and then got a G2 in a BOGO offer at T-Mo. I find myself using the Nexus more. The G2 has some weird issues, like updates to Google Apps that are pre-installed causing force closes (Google Earth, for one, and I can't install the new version of Maps because it constantly runs and shows up as 80% on battery usage when I check to see why it's draining). I also hate how bulky/heavy it is (and it's more annoying since I don't use the keyboard). I have small hands so I find it more comfortable to hold my Nexus. If you use a case (which I need, I tend to drop phones) the phone doesn't stay fully closed due to how the cases snap on.
I guess it depends on your usage. Since you'll be keeping a Nexus, then maybe it'll be fine. If you won't miss the second Nexus, then go for it.
Thanks for the input so far.
I think one of the unknown factors that i am trying to decide is....will the N1 get updates as long as the G2 will? I know the N1 is a developers phone, but with the NS coming out, do any of you think the N1 will stop getting updates although the hardware may very well still support it? With the G2 being 6-8 months newer, will it get updates longer in the future than the N1?
I know we really dont know the answer to this, but it would be interesting to see what you guys think.
Also keep in mind that the G2 is SIGNIFICANTLY heavier than the nexus one. i think it's almost a half-again heavier and that can be a big deal.
If you are going to have a N1 extra I say do it! I have a N1 and have used a G2 before. I hate keyboards built into a phone but that is just my preference. I would not worry about the N1 loosing support because of the NS the N1 I think will always be supported and updated if not always at least until the N1 can not handle newer Android OS. Only then will I upgrade to what ever Nexus is available at that time.
Trade and if you hate it find someone who will trade you for a NS or a N1 again!!
In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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I think the keyboard is what really makes it the G1's successor.. people were waiting for that.
this is a tough decision. i love the G2 because it's build quality and materials are just like the nexus one, which i love. but i never use a physical keyboard, so that's wasted space to me. but the g2 has the better snapdragon CPU and better GPU, but the nexus one has a better form factor.
since you will still have a nexus one after the trade, go for the g2.
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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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The screen is sharper because it is a SLCD like some of the newer N1's, but it uses a back light so the blacks aren't as deep as our AMOLED N1s. My Co-Worker has one and I like it.... but would I trade it for my N1... no.
The G2 is noticeably heavier and thicker. The optical sensor works and supposedly it has a "trackball light" notification around it but I haven't seen it in action. While I dislike keyboard phones, it is comparable to the Nexus. They truly look like brothers.
I don't know if a G2 could replace my Nexus, but if you have 2 N1's and looking for something different then it might be worth a trade.
You guys have been really helpful. Some really good points have been made about both the N1 and G2.
Now i gotta sleep on it and figure out what i decide to do. Will let you guys know!
Leaning towards keeping the second N1 right now....
The G2 is Free on T-Mobile right now if that helps your decision.
yes free G2 and call 611 and say cancel and if you have been a long time customer and paid your bills on time you can ask for the $20 data plan.
I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying
Same dilemma
Well I have the same question. First off, I appreciate this post in general, everyone definitely seems to have good input and good opinions that they back up well. I have kind of the same "issue" so to speak. I am getting a new G2 tomorrow, but I know someone who is willing to give me 100 dollars plus a mint condition n1 for it, what do you guys think I should do? I'm just afraid that in terms of day-day function, the n1 will be slower. Any info is much appreciated!
I considered getting a G2 for a while as well. A few things turned me off:
1. The size of the thing compared to a N1 - this thing is a hefty brick!
2. "Pure" Google, not really...seeing how TMobile conveniently removed tethering, but this can be solved through root
3. The MMS bugs
4. The N1 Car/Home dock are just too slick to give up.
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I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying
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yeah i just cant stress enough how excellent the color trackball is on the n1. having color blink in succession, so when i'm at work and i see it blink from red to green to blue to yellow to cyan, and instantly KNOW what each of my 5 messages are, is truly useful. its more useful then anyone without it could ever understand, and its highly under rated i think by many. it may sound cheesy to say "i like colors", but talk about functional and cool at the same time. the perfectly centered nipple just looks classy.
is it me or is the vibrant better than the g2 by like a lot? i mean yeah the g2 has official froyo and all but i think that its pretty complicated on flashing stuff to the g2. i recently got it and on the first day i had it on a boot loop and it took me like 6 hours just to fix it and the funny thing is that after all the work fixing my semi brick i messed it up again trying to flash a gingervillian rom and i had to call tmobile for a replacement but then i fixed it so now im paying 20 bucks for expedited shipping and a replacement g2. anyways what im trying to say is that i think the vibrant is way better to do stuff with it like flashing roms and mods and all that. maybe its just me because ive had the vibrant for longer than the g2, where the g2 ive only had it for like two days already and i already managed to get traumatized by semi bricking it. and also i think the vibrant is way better because the 720p recording is better, the samoled screeen and awesome speaker and just more amazing. yeah i know i might sound like a vibrant fan boy but i honestly like my vibrant better the only reason i still have my g2 is because its keyboard but im sure im going to trade it for like a mytouch4g or something oh and may i add that the damn g2 is heavy. ugh. so thats just my opinion on that. no offence to the g2 owners, and im also not a noob to this stuff.
You probably won't find too many people who disagree with you in the Vibrant forum.
If you're gonna sell the G2, just keep the cash. You really don't need two phones. If you must have two phones, I'd wait to buy a dual core.
I sold my g2 for my Vibrant. And I have to say out of the box the g2 was better because everything worked. (mainly gps) but with the fixes and custom roms I am much happier with my vibrant as ccompared to the g2. Better display and wayyy lighter phone. And most reviews between the 2 will crown the vibrant ad the victor.
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I would trade my Vibrant for a G2 in a second. I want a hardware keyboard, better screen be damned.
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I would trade my Vibrant for a G2 in a second. I want a hardware keyboard, better screen be damned.
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I wouldn't do this, but I would trade it for a myTouch 4G. Hardware keyboards bother me, and it would suck to downgrade on screen quality, but I'd love to have CyanogenMod again...
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I wouldn't do this, but I would trade it for a myTouch 4G. Hardware keyboards bother me, and it would suck to downgrade on screen quality, but I'd love to have CyanogenMod again...
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Lol I went from vibrant to g2 and g2 to mytouxh 4g if you want deal with htc qc issue then ok. I sold my myotuch 4g and came back to vibrant.
G2-loose hinge(the phone wobbles even with keyboard closed),no glass its plastic screen, loose battery cover on some of em,dead pixel
Mytouch 4g replaced it 5 times due to qc issue examples? Washed out screen (1/2 is washed out screen and other half is not. It has batter contrast and all that)
Front facing off centered. You have to tilt your phone to get your face in the centered
Loose battery cover. Battery cover just moves like hell
Dead pixel on some of em
Dust under the glass
Squeaky button.(kinda annoying)
Light leaks
Yup htc have good phones but too much qc issue.
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Once we get AOSP gingerbread we should be getting cm 7, no?
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Lol I went from vibrant to g2 and g2 to mytouxh 4g if you want deal with htc qc issue then ok. I sold my myotuch 4g and came back to vibrant.
G2-loose hinge(the phone wobbles even with keyboard closed),no glass its plastic screen, loose battery cover on some of em,dead pixel
Mytouch 4g replaced it 5 times due to qc issue examples? Washed out screen (1/2 is washed out screen and other half is not. It has batter contrast and all that)
Front facing off centered. You have to tilt your phone to get your face in the centered
Loose battery cover. Battery cover just moves like hell
Dead pixel on some of em
Dust under the glass
Squeaky button.(kinda annoying)
Light leaks
Yup htc have good phones but too much qc issue.
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Let me guess, your vibrant works perfectly?
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Perfect vibrant for me!
Lol i`ve been wanting to get a G2 For a while i got the Vibrant right now but its a big mess and...it feels cheap...if you dont want it you can always work out a deal with me =D
It feels cheap? Would you want a dent or a lowed price battery replacement. And some guys are making aluminum backcovers in the general section I think.
The phone doesn't feel cheap. The mentality of "heavy = well built" has got to go. Yeah, the phone's light and mostly plastic. Most vehicles on the road now are 75% plastic as well. The difference is cars go 100+ mph and endure harsh conditions, while my phone sits in my pocket, desk or hand. I'd say plastic is sufficient for a phone.
Neither mine nor my wifes vibrant creak, squeak, feel loose, or have any other physical or mechanical flaws. We've both dropped ours multiple times on the pavement, both survived with minor scuffs each time. From what I understand though, the g2 has a loose hinge issue, and the mytouch has squeaky buttons. My wife is completely content with her stock 2.2 vibrant. She is the average consumer. I'm not. Mine is modified, and much more responsive than the stock g2 I owned for a short time, droid x I had for a day, and evo I play with everyday. Gps on the latest bionix is working as intended.
I don't think the vibrant is better than any of them (g2 in particular), but it isn't worse. It's personal opinion, they're both fast. If you prefer the features of one, or how one feels over the other, that's the one that's better for you. I prefer the vibrant.
Sent from my <tw> powered vibrant.
right on @allthrottle i agree and i like the g2 now that i have a sense rom and i got a case for it so im not scared to have it around anymore and i got it cheap too, 10 bucks at tmo store, pretty weird accounting that tmo sells cases for like a lot like a gel skin case for the vibrant is like 20 i think. but yeah i got both phones and i like to play with the g2 more and i kind of use the vibrant as a music source i mean come on 16 gb is good for some music. the only thing i wish is that the g2 would of had a bigger screen i mean yeah i know that either you have the big display and no keyboard or the small display and a keyboard. honestly i dont use the keyboard as much on the g2. swype does its good on the phone and also i hate that the g2 isnt as bright as the vibrant. oh well i wonder if anyone else is like me with a vibrant and a g2...
My wife wanted my Vibrant. So, I read everything I could find about all the new phones. I ended up getting another Vibrant. With a custom ROM I have no complaints about my Vibrant.