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[Q] Should we give the phone a nickname??? (Epic FAIL) lol

Looks like a few topic starters have already given the phone a nickname. Maybe it will stick?!

Whatever, I just call mine the "epeen 4G," because that's what it is.

I call her chubby since its the largest phone I have.
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chubby
hehehehehehe

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This phone is THIN compared to my old one. It was a Touch Pro with the gigantic extended Mugen battery. It was definitely over an inch thick. Before that was a Titan with the extended battery and a full aluminum extended battery case. That one had to be like 1.25" thick at least. On the other hand, it could definitely stand in as a solid bludgeoning device if needed. At least until that crackhead stole it...seriously.
-Rob

Every phone has problems at launch.
iPhone 4 antenna problems.
Evo 4G screen grounding issues (when you weren't holding it).
Aside from GPS, the Epic 4G has had relatively few issues, at least for me. Reception has been fantastic. Maybe I got an extremely good phone. I thought I'd have issues with it's size, but I don't. It's no thicker than my HTC xv6900 (Touch). It's actually only a little wider, although much taller. I thought it'd bother me, but it doesn't. If anything, I prefer the form factor over the Captivate.
I'd say "Epic Win"

Evo's problems upon release: Grounding issues, fps cap, power button cracking, screen separation, anything else?
What's the point of this thread again? Lol

neckface said:
Evo's problems upon release: Grounding issues, fps cap, power button cracking, screen separation, anything else?
What's the point of this thread again? Lol
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You forgot. Horrible battery life, problems with the usb. Some screens having a purple tint to them. Don't get me wrong, I loved my evo but I have the epic now and I'm not looking back. Stock epic with 2.1 is better than evo running cm6, at least for me.
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aim1126 said:
You forgot. Horrible battery life, problems with the usb. Some screens having a purple tint to them. Don't get me wrong, I loved my evo but I have the epic now and I'm not looking back. Stock epic with 2.1 is better than evo running cm6, at least for me.
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Oh yeah, absolutely atrocious battery life. What usb issues was the Evo having? Oh and most ridiculous of all the Evo's hardware problems was its complete crap speaker that blows out on account of what, listening to music? I had to replace my first for a new one because of that and my current white Evo will have to be replaced as well because no more than three weeks later, its speaker blew out as well. And before people start flaming me saying I'm holding it wrong or what-have-you, I suggest you search the Evo board. The speakers blowing out is a somewhat prominent issue.

I'm still curious about the purpose of the thread, I have yet to find anything wrong with my epic, before or after a root. I have been all over with phones, from windows mobile(thanks NRG), Iphone(you suck steve jobs), and here to the epic. Best phone I've seen yet. Evo is a good device, but for those that think the Evo is better than epic, I guess we fear what we dont understand.LOL

It was a stab at sarcastic humor with some of the problems and frustrations people are/were having.

[CLOSED/G2] After Almost A Month Long Affair with the Vibrant, the G2 Won My Heart

After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant. Swype was also excellent.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
Although I loved the swype on a big screen, I realize, buttons are important, even if you don't need them all the time, especially for games, scrolling through text, flash games, remoting to your pc at home. Connecting to a terminal perhaps?
In this sense, the G2 is the true gaming phone, and not the vibrant, it seems all the vibrant is geared to do is to play avatar movie, and the sims 3 mobile game, so they beefed up the ram usage for the gpu.
Also, who could deny the guaranteed development community that the G2 will definitely have, I felt the entire vibrant development was powered by 3-4 people. Samsung hasn't even come out with 2.2 yet on the vibrant, and even if they do, their crappy file system and kernels is still going to suck up a good chunk of the good it brings. My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.

QwertyAccess said:
After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
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Sounds more like the Vibrant broke your heart, than the G2 winning your heart. All phones have issues, If you beleive you will be happier with the G2 then thats all that matters.
Personaly i wont be happy untill tmobile has a Solid 4.3 In display Android phone.

Well said, I do eventually want something with the build quality and feel of the HD2, I saw in the t-mobile store, theres something nice when something is made out of metal, with metallic feeling buttons.

4.3? I'm straight on that. That's HUGE! I can't be carrying box of girl scout cookies sized in my pocket. That's like carrying a first gen PSP in your pocket. (I think)
But I know what you mean, big screens are cool.
I've never owned any popular smart phone, so this will be my first Android phone and I'm glad it's going to be the G2. I just can't wait to hop onto the mobile app world own it up!

U know what gave it away before I read all that?
Your username

Why I probably will sell the Vibrant for the G2 is because of the following Vibrant issues that I have had with three different Vibrants:
1. Have to go into service mode to change the bluetooth settings for people to hear me because I sound too far away otherwise.
2. I can't view full pages with about:debug because it crashes the browser.
3. When I hold the phone close to the bottom I do lose reception.
4. How long it's taking for froyo to come out.
5. Lack of flash (Small not a big problem)
6. And ofcourse the notorious GPS.
To some these might not be a big deal but it was has me really thinking of switching. Don't get me wrong, I love the screen size and the screen itself. But function always comes before form for me.

Lol didn't even notice the screen name.

I just bought my mom the Vibrant.. lol.
She's coming from an old ass Nokia candybar. I hope it's not too difficult for her to get used to.

QwertyAccess said:
My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.
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well, so did I, except 2 weeks ago I dropped my G1 on my wood floor at home, and that finally did the trick. the screen went all staticy and unreadable (though the phone still technically functioned otherwise).
such bad timing because I was gonna get the G2 anyway. but I'm a data addict and had to get a replacement phone for the meantime, also I got a mt3g 1.2. I was surprised, but its like way faster. the 1.2 version has 256 RAM as opposed to the 192 in the G1 and mt3g original, and it makes a huge difference. I don't need compcache turned on to to keep web pages in memory and gtalk signed in. I never realized how much compcache slows down the system.
long story short - as much as the mt3g 1.2 was an upgrade over the G1, the G2 is gonna be like 5 times that. can't wait.
/tangent

QwertyAccess,
I agree, I have been waiting for T-Mobile to release an Android handset with the build quality of the HD2.
The G2 is the closest thing I have seen, it feels very solid and well built.
Now if it would just get here.

Makes me glad we Sprint users got the most unique Galaxy S, flash and keyboard and GPS that works. Plus I can't believe this beast of a phone is so light as well.
Now, a Vibrant to the G2 might make sense to some but I dare say that if Samsung had made the Epic for all the U.S carriers in its current iteration (keyboard + flash), you might be singing a different tune.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...

If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.

PolishDude said:
If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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why not get the nexus one which has the two mics, it is made for situations like that

PolishDude said:
If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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had a VW R32 w/aftermarket exhaust that had a horrible drone - only did it between 2200 - 2800 rpm. Unless you're headache proof, it can be eliminated. I found the point on the exhaust line that were vibrating like a tuning fork & secured them it with an additional hanger strap/bracket and wrapped the muffler body with asbestos tape - knocked 80% of the drone out - wife became more agreeable to riding in it after that

I honestly dont find it that bad, every other phone works fine but the vibrant

T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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scmurphy13 said:
T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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Who did you talk to
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I love my G1. It is rock solid. I've dropped it in water until it was several inches submerged... TWICE. I've dropped in on concrete many times. I used the clear, hard plastic, T-Mobile cases, and actually drove off with it on the roof of my car. At 20mph I saw it fly past my window and hit the ground. The case flew off, but the phone is completely fine.
Heck, my wife had one, dropped it in the grocery store parking lot (didn't realize it). I sent a text message to her phone and used GPS Tracker to find the phone. I then went to the parking lot and started calling her phone. It had been run over and thrown into a garbage can. The screen was toast, and the phone was dented and scratched, but the screen still lit up, the GPS still worked, and the phone was still ringing and accepting texts. Amazing!!
I hope the G2 is as good as the G1 was only updated. If so, I'll be very happy.
I've got a coworker with a Droid X. He's had problems with his phone locking up and freezing and needing to be rebooted, much more than I ever had with my G1, even when it was rooted and running all sorts of ROMs.

robavila721 said:
Who did you talk to
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Customer Loyalty.
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robavila721 said:
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I didn't get a complete swap but the rep I talked too said that if you return your phone two or more times for warranty you can choose another phone per T-mobile policy. I had one warranty swap and a battery issue, the battery issue didn't qualify but if you have done two or more warranty exchanges you can get any other phone of "similar" specs for free. You just have to trade in the old phone.
Call 611 and say cancel when the computer answers. The person you talk to will be loyalty or retention or whatever they call it. They can do almost anything for you. Be nice and explain how much the Vibrant sux and how you want something done about it. They will be more than happy to take care of it for you.

Quick question about Epic and Evo (Not troll related)

I was offered a trade for my Evo and 100 bucks for an Epic and the money isn't really THAT much of an issue but I wanted to know would I regret it in terms of not as many roms for support for the Epic or is the community as large and as Nice.
I did enjoy holding on in the store and if you look at my past posts I'm not a troll trying to start a debate I just want honest opinions. Would you go with the epic if you owned and Evo and why?

imwillzillla said:
I was offered a trade for my Evo and 100 bucks for an Epic and the money isn't really THAT much of an issue but I wanted to know would I regret it in terms of not as many roms for support for the Epic or is the community as large and as Nice.
I did enjoy holding on in the store and if you look at my past posts I'm not a troll trying to start a debate I just want honest opinions. Would you go with the epic if you owned and Evo and why?
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-Faster processer
-Better screen
-3d Games, all games play MUCH smoother.
-Qwerty keyboard is the best
-Fits in pocket better
-If you like sense use launcher pro
-rated #1 Android phone by PCmag, CNET

omair2005 said:
-Faster processer
-Better screen
-3d Games, all games play MUCH smoother.
-Qwerty keyboard is the best
-Fits in pocket better
-If you like sense use launcher pro
-rated #1 Android phone by PCmag, CNET
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Okay, I think i'm going to go with it. I'm a phone junkie anyway and am willing to go with something else. I am just nervous about getting burned over the lack of development on this section for the phone. Are there any cool mods for the Epic?

imwillzillla said:
Okay, I think i'm going to go with it. I'm a phone junkie anyway and am willing to go with something else. I am just nervous about getting burned over the lack of development on this section for the phone. Are there any cool mods for the Epic?
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While we may not have as many devs tha evo users have, we do have some very good devs that do amazing work. We don't have 100 roms and kernels but we don't need 100, the roms we have are blazing. If you can i'd pick up the epic over the evo
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I just came from the EVO a week ago. 2 things I don't like so far about the Epic are the charger plug being on the top of the phone and selecting text is not nearly as easy as on the EVO. The main thing that irritates me is the charger port placement. When I use the phone while charging the cord dangles annoyingly in my face. The text selecting is not going to be an issue once I'm rooted of course. Other than those things the Epic is a far superior phone imo. To add to the other post of pros, I'm getting much better battery life with the Epic compared to the EVO.

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I just came from the EVO. 2 things I don't like so far about the Epic are the charger plug being on the top of the phone and selecting text is not nearly as easy as on the EVO. The main thing that irritates me is the charger port placement. When I use the phone while charging the cord dangles annoyingly in my face. The text selecting is not going to be an issue once I'm rooted of course. Other than those things the Epic is a far superior phone imo. To add to the other post of pros, I'm getting much better battery life with the Epic compared to the EVO.
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Awesome I think i'm going to make this deal happen before the guy gets second thoughts lol. I agree about it not needing as many roms as long as I can play my Galcon and Angry birds on it i'm good.
I really don't care for a physical keyboard as I haven't had a phone with one since the samsung instinct (went from the Instinct to the s30 to the Hero to the iPhone to the Nexus One to the Evo. And throw in a couple of Blackberries here and there along the way. lol) Swype and even swift keyboard work quicker for me than a physical keyboard. Maybe i'll get re aquatinted with it now.

I too like to change phone often. I was on the exact same boat a couple weeks ago when someone offered to trade my EVO for an Epic. The only thing we kept was our memory cards. In the beginning I was regretting as the charger cable got in my way, less development, and felt less sturdy. But after warming up to it a definetly prefer it. The screen is gorgeous and the hummingbird is defintely faster then snapdragon stock. I do miss 2.2 but it should come in november. Noobnl is also working on porting cynogen 6.1 so that's exciting news on the rom front. Just my 2cents. Enjoy!
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Awesome I think i'm going to make this deal happen before the guy gets second thoughts lol. I agree about it not needing as many roms as long as I can play my Galcon and Angry birds on it i'm good.
I really don't care for a physical keyboard as I haven't had a phone with one since the samsung instinct (went from the Instinct to the s30 to the Hero to the iPhone to the Nexus One to the Evo. And throw in a couple of Blackberries here and there along the way. lol) Swype and even swift keyboard work quicker for me than a physical keyboard. Maybe i'll get re aquatinted with it now.
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I got my evo on launch day. Before the end if its days it was running cm6 rc1. U got my epic on release and it us far superior then running my evo with cm6. I haven't looked back now regretted making the switch. I think u used the physical key board once. I love having swype put installed. I didn't like how the swype beta worked on the evo
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The Epic is better then the evo in specs across the board, the rest is personal preferences.

im coming over from an evo and i dont regret it one bit..love the phone..even if its not on froyo yet i feel it performs better than the evo..i wasnt too big of a fan of touchwiz but with the launcher options that isnt even an issue..as far as the roms yes there arent many, but theres a few gems out right now and from what i understand the devs are hanging back until the update to froyo..so in my opinion i would say yes trade it for the epic but what i like you may not like

Well the deal was done and the selling point was the Evo section and showing the guy how to download rom after rom after rom for the Evo. I felt like putting my child up for adoption when he was holding my Evo and now the Epic is sitting in the corner like a pets first night in your home. Warming up to it in baby steps.
I do love the physical keyboard though. I think it was already broken in by the guy so it didn't feel stiff at all and my fat thumbs were having a field day. Now the next debate in my mind will be to Zagg shield or not to Zagg sheild. I wish they were universal because I wouldn't have given mine to him.

The case around it makes it bigger but has saved mine. Never used a screen prot. I've beat this thing up and havn't been able to hurt the screen. Crazy strong. I love the smooth glass feel. Can't do the protector. Good thing they used special glass.
The USB at the top is a hit and miss. I Never really ever charge it because I just switch out from my second Batt. I get a way better charge using the ext charger. Hold 100% for a good hour. But I can see it being a pain while using it.
But... if your plugging it in for the computer or in your car. Top is best. It will sit on the seat or in a slot/cup holder better.
I recommend a second Battery for every one.
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I recommend a second Battery for every one.
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Definitely agree. I picked up another one recently and it has been great. I use mine very very heavily and it usually only lasts around 9 hours. That's with heavy listening of music, texting, emails, etc... Definitely loving the fact that I never have to have it sit and charge

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I felt like putting my child up for adoption when he was holding my Evo and now the Epic is sitting in the corner like a pets first night in your home. Warming up to it in baby steps. QUOTE]
Lol I know what you mean. I had my Evo for awhile and bought an Epic a week after release. I switched back and forth on a regular basis between the Evo and Epic and always felt like I was cheating on the Evo. Finally made a committment today and sold my Evo for $425 and stuck with my mistress.
The only things I really miss about the Evo are some of the HTC apps as well as the sense widgets, mainly the email widget. Dont get me wrong the Evo was a great phone, but the Epic has a lot of features that won me over. Mainly the keyboard for playing games (Punch Out FTW!), the overall speed difference, and swype. I had swype on my evo, but there were always issues with it.
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@a454nova: I did get an extra battery in the deal which was great for me. And I just realized how much better it is to have it charging from the top is in the car as i'm always driving. thanks for the obvious but I was oblivious to tip.
@chino0131: I have gotten used to not having them with the MIUI Rom for evo. Which was my favorite with the exception of Myns version 2.2. If you end up going from an Epic to an Evo I highly suggest the Myn rom. I also just got the dag-on desire animated flip clock on my evo. lol. I am going to miss sense and I must say the "Epic is better" is hogwash. Without the stats you wouldn't notice anything. But I am very happy with my Epic.
On another note, I'm still on the fence about getting a shield still. I'm going to look up the glass to see if it really is scratch resistant and what not. Can't wait for Froyo!

I reccomend getting a realook or clarivue screen protector over zagg. Zagg is thicker and more durable but the realook amd clarivue are super clear and thin and don't compromise the look of the screen at all and they feel almost as smooth as the glass screen. The screen is one of main selling point of the phone so u don't wanna comprimise the clarrity of the screen.
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ravizzle said:
I reccomend getting a realook or clarivue screen protector over zagg. Zagg is thicker and more durable but the realook amd clarivue are super clear and thin and don't compromise the look of the screen at all and they feel almost as smooth as the glass screen. The screen is one of main selling point of the phone so u don't wanna comprimise the clarrity of the screen.
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Where can I purchase these screen protectors? Are they only for sale online?

I went from an Evo to an Epic about a month ago or something. Overall I like the Epic, I'm just really starting to miss flash 10. I watch TV shows online all the time and can't do that anymore without froyo.
I think the Epic has better quality pictures. The screen is nice. The battery is longer, but I'm still waiting for my 2nd and 3rd batteries to come in the mail so I don't have to sit by an outlet before the end of the day.
My main selling point on the epic was the keyboard, which I sometimes get annoyed with when it doesnt recognize all the letters I type.
I had a screen protector on mine, but it keeps falling off so I finally just left it off. The way the glass feels and how the screen is unhindered is so much better, but I'm also paranoid of it getting scratched. Tough decision.
Overall, I'm dying for CM or a port of it. I like AOSP much more than any other launcher.

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Where can I purchase these screen protectors? Are they only for sale online?
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Yea online is ur best bet. They not too expensive and u can google coupon codes usually. These screen protectors are static cling so no sticky residue and no need for water solution/messy install like zagg.
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Where can I purchase these screen protectors? Are they only for sale online?
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I put an eXtreme guard protector on my Epic, had the same kind on my moment.
If you put it on well, you can hardly tell its there. It's the kind that goes on with a little soapy water.They're $2.49 with free shipping now, I think I paid $3.99.
Has a much better feel then ones that are just stick on, again you can hardly tell it's there even when using it.
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Im ...lol

this is just random story. If your going to put up bad comments and be immature then go ahead..I really don't care.
Got rid of vibrant.
Upgraded to g2. The hinge is just horrible. It wobbles even with keyboard closed.
Got rid of g2. Got nexus one.
Trackball broke. Wifi didn't work no matter what rom I flashed. They sent me a new one even though I bought it off cl.
Got rid of nexus one got mytouch 4g.
It's a good phone. the materials they used is really good. But comes with too many qc issues.
Such as deadpixel loose battery cover. Washed out screen,off centered front facing camera, button makes squeaky sounds.
I had to send it in 5 times to get a good screen..but still had other problems such as slightly loose battery cover, light leaks, off centered front facing camera. Got rid of it and got vibrant. Couldn't be any happier.
Never leaving my vibrant.

shows that samsung has good products. but non existent customer service

The Vibrant is very so-so. 6 months into ownership, my battery (which was never spectacular to begin with) is showing signs of wear and tear.
I am currently looking and waiting for my next phone.
Samsung's (lack of) updates due to their re-releasing of the Vibrant (first as the Nexus S, and now as the Vibrant Plus). Has soured me on the brand. I am going to take a very hard look at Motorola's offerings. Hopefully T-mobile will get a decent Moto phone in (NOT the cliq or the cliq 2).
HTC has been resting on their laurels a little bit.... I expect to have bought a new device by June or July.

Grass isnt always green-er on the other side. I like the vibrant but I will upgrade when a high end physical keyboard phone comes out. I wish the samsung epic was gsm.
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I'd rather have good quality hardware that's reliable, considering i can upgrade the software myself
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I called Samsung...........and they asked me "what's customer service?"

I will say that this is the best phone I have had since i migrated away from blackberry, granted this is the only the first android device i have owned but not the only one that i have played around with. I will say that the lack of support directly from T-mobile and Samsung is disappointing, however the support from developers and fellow members on xda more than makes up for it.

Same here. I like my Vibrant. I have heard over and over HTC, Motorola owners wish again and again they had a Vibrant.
I wish they didn't name the Vibrant Plus the same name as the Vibrant! FFC, nor 4g will get my to purchase. I'm holding out for an 8px camera, and a dual core.
I'm keeping my eye on phones like the Optimus 2X from LG. HTC has some promising offerings.
I like Samsungs hardware, I just don't like how they treat their customers.

No doubt, I LOVE my Vibrant... It is Samsung's politics/strategy/lack of compliance (open handset alliance) that has me annoyed.

like I said in the past, Samsung should make the hardware. leave the software updates to google.
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G2 - not sure what the big deal with the loose hinge is, I don't have a problem with mine and I def don't use my phone upside down.
Nexus One - looks like there's nothing wrong with it after the exchange then but the phone is pretty outdated now It still has fantastic build quality though.
MyTouch - agreed on the QC problem; if you do get a perfect one though, you'd prob be happy with it.
I'm happy with my Vibrant right now after putting Nero on it, the only thing I have against it is the ****ty GPS.

^ agreed, the Nexus One I have is absolutely the best built phone, and most comfortable that I have ever held.

I just came to the Vibrant from a MyTouch Slide. The Slide is a decent phone, but the hardware was outdated from the start, and now it's still waiting for the 2.2 update while original MyTouches have received it.
I'm giving up on manufacturer updates altogether. Root, apply rom of choice, enjoy.

Gigamaster89 said:
G2 - not sure what the big deal with the loose hinge is, I don't have a problem with mine and I def don't use my phone upside down.
Nexus One - looks like there's nothing wrong with it after the exchange then but the phone is pretty outdated now It still has fantastic build quality though.
MyTouch - agreed on the QC problem; if you do get a perfect one though, you'd prob be happy with it.
I'm happy with my Vibrant right now after putting Nero on it, the only thing I have against it is the ****ty GPS.
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That's what I thought wwhen I bought the g2. But I don't use my phone upside down. It wobbles when I touch the screen. The upper part(one with the screen) moves up and down. Wobbles like hell.
Nexus one.- yea I got like a brand new one. didn't have much warranty left so got rid of it since I am not going to pay 60 dollars to fix the power button. Nexus one slcd has a power button flaw.after a while your power button will stop working. And if you have nexus one you probably know about the screen..doesn't have the true multitouch.
Mytouch-yea but almost impossible to get a perfect one. Like I said to send it on many times just to get the screen that doesn't wash out.
When I got it I was happy then I found bout the light leaks and ffc off centered loose battery cover.
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Mytouch 4g vs g2

I trade my phones alot on craigslist and get replacements from tmobile to get newcondition phone(started it recently) .. yes i know its wrong..
And i want to stop it.
I went through alot of phones in like 6month
Samsung Highlight.. ****ty phone
Iphone 3gs
Samsung vibrant (first android phone)
G2 (after i traded it perm root was available -. -)
Nexus one
Mytouch 4g replaced it 4 times due to washed out screen.
Back to vibrant
Back to g2 and now i want to go back to mytouch 4g..
Replaced g2 2 times to get the good one
Please dont flame me saying i have problem ialready know i have problem.. i just like to try new things
I want to stop it lol please tell me good things about g2 and bad things about mytouch 4g so i dont end up trading again
Like i said i already know i have problem just dont flame me
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Yes you do.
They are both very close to the same phone. The g2 has a hardware keyboard, the mytouch cpu is clocked at 1ghz. That's pretty much it. It's not a matter of which is better, just what you prefer (that's the case with most phones). If you really can't stop then please see somebody.
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Nospin said:
Yes you do.
If you really can't stop then please see somebody.
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bahahaha who cares if you trade phones?? who doesn't like switchin it up? i know i do. i just dont have the time. plus trading phones is much easier than seling and buying or just buying new ones all the time.. although you would just be able to swtich between your own phones..
and if your rooted you can just OC your g2. which i do to 1ghz.. i see no need for anything faster than that. unless its charging, i have it set to 1.2, just cause i usually charge it while i game.
ff camera is nice on the mytouch. gf has one. makes me sad i don't since i cant video chat unless i sit infront of mirror. but it works.
personally id take a g2.. duh. ffc doens't matter THAT much to me. and i text ALOT, main priority on a phone.. even thou i do use the on screen keyboard alot. my whole thought when deciding to wait for the mytouch 4g and getting the g2 was this.. if i am going to pay x amount for a phone.. i want the options of a physical keyboard if i wanna use one... and i love the look of it.
comes down to really, want a keyboard or a ffc? other than there there really not THAT different. all though i would take off the mytouch ui tmobile has on it.

shady503403 said:
bahahaha who cares if you trade phones?? who doesn't like switchin it up? i know i do. i just dont have the time. plus trading phones is much easier than seling and buying or just buying new ones all the time.. although you would just be able to swtich between your own phones..
and if your rooted you can just OC your g2. which i do to 1ghz.. i see no need for anything faster than that. unless its charging, i have it set to 1.2, just cause i usually charge it while i game.
ff camera is nice on the mytouch. gf has one. makes me sad i don't since i cant video chat unless i sit infront of mirror. but it works.
personally id take a g2.. duh. ffc doens't matter THAT much to me. and i text ALOT, main priority on a phone.. even thou i do use the on screen keyboard alot. my whole thought when deciding to wait for the mytouch 4g and getting the g2 was this.. if i am going to pay x amount for a phone.. i want the options of a physical keyboard if i wanna use one... and i love the look of it.
comes down to really, want a keyboard or a ffc? other than there there really not THAT different. all though i would take off the mytouch ui tmobile has on it.
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this helped me lol im keeping g2.

eunkipark92 said:
this helped me lol im keeping g2.
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Good choice.
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Mt4g for more ram and better screen. G2 for hardware keyboard. Tough choice but I prefer the G2.
Nonsense!

MT4G : Plasticky feel, poor build compare to G2, no gorilla glass display, same resolution and similar screen size as G2, no keyboard, + point to a Front Facing Camera
G2 : Rock Solid Build, physical keyboard, superior performance with slower and similar processor(which can be oc'ed to 1.6 GHz), a bit bulky(good on its part as you know when your phone is not in your pocket vs. some lightweight phone where vibration isn't even felt), no front facing camera - Meh...
They both go neck to neck if we compare specs, as they both have similar hardware but personally i will stick to my G2 as it feels much better in my hand.

creativedevil said:
MT4G : Plasticky feel, poor build compare to G2, no gorilla glass display, same resolution and similar screen size as G2, no keyboard, + point to a Front Facing Camera
G2 : Rock Solid Build, physical keyboard, superior performance with slower and similar processor(which can be oc'ed to 1.6 GHz), a bit bulky(good on its part as you know when your phone is not in your pocket vs. some lightweight phone where vibration isn't even felt), no front facing camera - Meh...
They both go neck to neck if we compare specs, as they both have similar hardware but personally i will stick to my G2 as it feels much better in my hand.
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Mytouch 4g does not feel plasticky though. It feel great in hand.
-1 for not having a gorilla glass though.
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eunkipark92 said:
Mytouch 4g does not feel plasticky though. It feel great in hand.
-1 for not having a gorilla glass though.
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whoever said the g2 had gorilla glass??? can anyone actually find a source that proves this.. not just a "i heard" or saw it on yourtube..
jc cause i might take off my screen cover. =]
and the mytouch is a good build quality i think.. all htc phones are imho.

Its on the gorilla glass website....can't be more obvious
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
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Says mt4g is gorilla glass too... hmm...
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Htc was never listed under that site before but it looks like they recently added it... along with every Htc phone ever made. I doubt phones like the wrist and g1 have gg.
Also, how do you manage to exchange and craigslist phone?
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eunkipark92 said:
Mytouch 4g does not feel plasticky though. It feel great in hand.
-1 for not having a gorilla glass though.
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I didn't mean any disrespect, it was just my opinion. I have used N1 and G2, compared to both of them only one phone feels superior to me and that was iPhone 4.
I have Atrix and NS, both of them can't come even closer to the feeling you get holding the N1 and G2 in your hand.
Just personally like that sturdyness so much that MT4G makes me feel something is missing.

Must be ghetto gorilla glass cause it does not feel anything like what I have always known be gorilla glass as in the Galaxy S line. Feel a vibrant screen then feel ours!
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xsteven77x said:
Must be ghetto gorilla glass cause it does not feel anything like what I have always known be gorilla glass as in the Galaxy S line. Feel a vibrant screen then feel ours!
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I have to agree the gorilla glass on vibrant feels much better. When I first got g2 I thought it was plastic.
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Took the screencover off and feels great to me..
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About to do the same, but i have the anti glare screen protector. i wonder if I'm going to miss it. Has anyone removed an anti glare screen protector and regret it?

I had one.. then got an invisishield.. then took that off... screen feels nice. IMHO.. smooth.. lil slippery compared to an invisishield, but nicer.
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so no problems with scratches ? i treat my phone kinda rough.

xxqbnxx said:
so no problems with scratches ? i treat my phone kinda rough.
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Been having my phone for over 2 month after my last replacement and I don't have a single scratch. Aha but I take care of it
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