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After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant. Swype was also excellent.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
Although I loved the swype on a big screen, I realize, buttons are important, even if you don't need them all the time, especially for games, scrolling through text, flash games, remoting to your pc at home. Connecting to a terminal perhaps?
In this sense, the G2 is the true gaming phone, and not the vibrant, it seems all the vibrant is geared to do is to play avatar movie, and the sims 3 mobile game, so they beefed up the ram usage for the gpu.
Also, who could deny the guaranteed development community that the G2 will definitely have, I felt the entire vibrant development was powered by 3-4 people. Samsung hasn't even come out with 2.2 yet on the vibrant, and even if they do, their crappy file system and kernels is still going to suck up a good chunk of the good it brings. My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.
QwertyAccess said:
After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
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Sounds more like the Vibrant broke your heart, than the G2 winning your heart. All phones have issues, If you beleive you will be happier with the G2 then thats all that matters.
Personaly i wont be happy untill tmobile has a Solid 4.3 In display Android phone.
Well said, I do eventually want something with the build quality and feel of the HD2, I saw in the t-mobile store, theres something nice when something is made out of metal, with metallic feeling buttons.
4.3? I'm straight on that. That's HUGE! I can't be carrying box of girl scout cookies sized in my pocket. That's like carrying a first gen PSP in your pocket. (I think)
But I know what you mean, big screens are cool.
I've never owned any popular smart phone, so this will be my first Android phone and I'm glad it's going to be the G2. I just can't wait to hop onto the mobile app world own it up!
U know what gave it away before I read all that?
Your username
Why I probably will sell the Vibrant for the G2 is because of the following Vibrant issues that I have had with three different Vibrants:
1. Have to go into service mode to change the bluetooth settings for people to hear me because I sound too far away otherwise.
2. I can't view full pages with about:debug because it crashes the browser.
3. When I hold the phone close to the bottom I do lose reception.
4. How long it's taking for froyo to come out.
5. Lack of flash (Small not a big problem)
6. And ofcourse the notorious GPS.
To some these might not be a big deal but it was has me really thinking of switching. Don't get me wrong, I love the screen size and the screen itself. But function always comes before form for me.
Lol didn't even notice the screen name.
I just bought my mom the Vibrant.. lol.
She's coming from an old ass Nokia candybar. I hope it's not too difficult for her to get used to.
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My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.
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well, so did I, except 2 weeks ago I dropped my G1 on my wood floor at home, and that finally did the trick. the screen went all staticy and unreadable (though the phone still technically functioned otherwise).
such bad timing because I was gonna get the G2 anyway. but I'm a data addict and had to get a replacement phone for the meantime, also I got a mt3g 1.2. I was surprised, but its like way faster. the 1.2 version has 256 RAM as opposed to the 192 in the G1 and mt3g original, and it makes a huge difference. I don't need compcache turned on to to keep web pages in memory and gtalk signed in. I never realized how much compcache slows down the system.
long story short - as much as the mt3g 1.2 was an upgrade over the G1, the G2 is gonna be like 5 times that. can't wait.
/tangent
QwertyAccess,
I agree, I have been waiting for T-Mobile to release an Android handset with the build quality of the HD2.
The G2 is the closest thing I have seen, it feels very solid and well built.
Now if it would just get here.
Makes me glad we Sprint users got the most unique Galaxy S, flash and keyboard and GPS that works. Plus I can't believe this beast of a phone is so light as well.
Now, a Vibrant to the G2 might make sense to some but I dare say that if Samsung had made the Epic for all the U.S carriers in its current iteration (keyboard + flash), you might be singing a different tune.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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why not get the nexus one which has the two mics, it is made for situations like that
PolishDude said:
If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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had a VW R32 w/aftermarket exhaust that had a horrible drone - only did it between 2200 - 2800 rpm. Unless you're headache proof, it can be eliminated. I found the point on the exhaust line that were vibrating like a tuning fork & secured them it with an additional hanger strap/bracket and wrapped the muffler body with asbestos tape - knocked 80% of the drone out - wife became more agreeable to riding in it after that
I honestly dont find it that bad, every other phone works fine but the vibrant
T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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I love my G1. It is rock solid. I've dropped it in water until it was several inches submerged... TWICE. I've dropped in on concrete many times. I used the clear, hard plastic, T-Mobile cases, and actually drove off with it on the roof of my car. At 20mph I saw it fly past my window and hit the ground. The case flew off, but the phone is completely fine.
Heck, my wife had one, dropped it in the grocery store parking lot (didn't realize it). I sent a text message to her phone and used GPS Tracker to find the phone. I then went to the parking lot and started calling her phone. It had been run over and thrown into a garbage can. The screen was toast, and the phone was dented and scratched, but the screen still lit up, the GPS still worked, and the phone was still ringing and accepting texts. Amazing!!
I hope the G2 is as good as the G1 was only updated. If so, I'll be very happy.
I've got a coworker with a Droid X. He's had problems with his phone locking up and freezing and needing to be rebooted, much more than I ever had with my G1, even when it was rooted and running all sorts of ROMs.
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Customer Loyalty.
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I didn't get a complete swap but the rep I talked too said that if you return your phone two or more times for warranty you can choose another phone per T-mobile policy. I had one warranty swap and a battery issue, the battery issue didn't qualify but if you have done two or more warranty exchanges you can get any other phone of "similar" specs for free. You just have to trade in the old phone.
Call 611 and say cancel when the computer answers. The person you talk to will be loyalty or retention or whatever they call it. They can do almost anything for you. Be nice and explain how much the Vibrant sux and how you want something done about it. They will be more than happy to take care of it for you.
There seems to be so many complaints from people and them replacements for their G2. Are a lot of people plagued by these problems? Do you think you have a perfect G2? (No dead pixels, no loose hinge, no random reboots, good battery, etc). I'm curious to see how many people actually needed to get a replacement before they got a 'good' phone.
I have had my G2 for about five days now, and the only problem I have is with the hinge. At first, I just thought people were complaining that the hinge would not snap-close/was easy to open, but after playing with he phone almost non-stop for the past five days I've noticed that it has actually gotten worse. It seems almost floppy now, and I fear that after a few months with this particular phone I will eventually be able to make it appear to talk. I'm going to go to T-mobile sometime in the next week and get a replacement, bu I'm curious as to what the chances are that I'll get a new phone with the same problem.
Aside from the hinge problem, I am far more than happy with the phone, bloatware and all. I'm hopeful that we will eventually have root and I look forward to keeping this phone for at least a couple of years.
No hardware problems. Just software problems which is obviously happening to everyone. I'm fine with it. Best phone I've had. And I've had em all from iphone to blackberry to android.
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No software problems here, and don't yet have a good sense of the battery, but this hinge is driving me nuts.
Also, you're missing at least one more option in the poll: "I have a problem but I can live with it."
I have had my g 2 for 24 hours and love it. fast and smooth and no broken parts. I travel and I have had excellent signal. have only charge my battery 1 time in the last 24 hours. coming from blackberry this device beats it hands down
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when sending or receiving picture messages, the phone resizes the picture to 12kb.. its ridiculous! i could send 1mb pictures with a goddamn Razr 4 years ago!.. anyone know how this can be fixed? also the voice recognition is useless.. the hardware keyboard is a bit flimsy, but i try to not use it much for that reason.. the battery doesn't last that long if you have "background sync" or whatever its called turned on. i turned all that crap off so now the battery actually lasts
I have had mine for about a week. Two things mildly annoy me: the speakerphone is tinny and when I place the phone screen up, my carefully customized mp3 ringtones sound weird. Two, the battery life seems to barely eke by to a day and this is without even getting on to the GPS and Bluetooth bandwagon. Just HSPA/EDGE surfing. Heck, I barely even use it to make calls. An extremely minor minor irritant is that when I tap on the app drawer (I am using LauncherPro) there seems to be a millisecond lag before the apps zoom out. I find that a bit clunky, but no serious complaints.
No big complaints about mine. I love it. Best phone ever.
Few small quirks/bugs I've noticed.
Trackpad moves itself when in bright sunlight or in a car and sun goes behind trees.
I've had one random reboot. But it was while streaming Pandora with headphones in my car with no A/C on a 95 degree day. Phone was quite hot and rebooted itself.
MMS slideshow sucks though an update should fix that.
Hinge, battery life, speed and data connection are all excellent in my opinion.
That's about it... I came from a Cliq and could not be happier.
After 24 hours the worst thing that I have had happen to me is the phone rattles a bit when it vibrates.
Otherwise so far it seems to be the best phone I've owned. I don't even know if I'll root it!
I messed up the news and weather app because I always get a force close now. I don't know where I went wrong.
I've replaced the clock app and it should be fine for now... using it with tasker if I had clock open and change orientation, id get the geniewidget error force close.
Don't like mms slideshow. Rare random reboot. I'm still happy with this phone though.
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Well I will have had my phone for two weeks on Sunday (10/17/2010). I just sold my Nexus one on Ebay this week. So yes I like this baby a lot. Its faster than the N1, I love the design. I have had one random reboot, my hinges are fine. I think it's the nature of the design, not a defect. They're suppose to be loose. Plus in actual use when are you going to hold a five hundred dollar upside down. If I have one gripe it maybe the screen coming from the n1, I'll miss them black levels. But overall it's an nice upgrade. Love stock android.
ive had mine for a few days now. coming from an N1, then to a samsung vibrant, now to this.
absolutely love it, my only dislikes are not having a dedicated number row on the keypad, and charge port placement. but as far as the hinge goes, i can lay in bed with it upside down and still text. no issues there. i just cant wait until i can get a new rom on it to adjust the track pad illumination like i had with cyanogen on my N1
but no real "problems"
I've had my G2 for a week now, and I absolutely love it. It's the first smartphone I've ever bought new, so just getting to unbox it was a treat. I haven't found anything wrong with the phone at all. Only gripe is that the led light doesn't blink when there's a new message/call. A light around the track pad flashes instead, but it is almost impossible to see except in the dark. Otherwise I love everything about my G2.
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I've had mine for 2 weeks now. Everything is fine, keyboard gap I can cope with, it only happens when phone is held upside down.
I'm loving the speed of this thing.
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Got mines on pre-order and i do have the upside down hinge situation but its far from a problem for me since I don't use my phone that way and don't know anyone who does. Phones is perfect through and through, awaiting root!
I have several problems with mine.
1) Autorotate is a FAIL, doesn't seem to work at all, so I just have it disabled.
2) Reception is even bigger FAIL. It can't get a signal in midtown NYC very well, while my junky Nokia 6030 has full signal almost everywhere. It can't even hold a WiFi signal in my house very well, while any other device does. (802.11g).
I had one replacement phone shipped to me by T-Mobile with a very defective hinge (When you opened it up, it would wobble like it wasn't seated properly) and I'm waiting on my second replacement (or 3rd phone) to arrive via UPS. Odds are I'm going to send them all back, this phone is a pretty big dissapointment for me.
Also I'm not a huge fan of the physical keyboard, I thought I'd use it a lot more than I do (which is almost never)
I regret being an "early adopter" for sure this time. It's been a huge waste of time, money, and trips to the UPS store for returning the phone (I pre-ordered the phone from T-Mobile)
1) Not a problem, just a personal thing: Wish keyboard had another row. Coming from Tilt2 I was used to 5 rows. This one seems to have too much going on.
2) I swithched to T-Mo for this phone. Don't know anyone else w/ T-Mo in my area. They advertise I am in a strong 3G area and very close to a HSDPA+ area. I only get Edge speeds. Even with a very strong full bar, it stays on edge. Using Speedtest.net I avg. 32kbs. Using my Tilt2 on AT&T I avg 1500kbs. Customer Service tried to convince me (in a very friendly voice) that I would be very happy with the much slower speeds. They are wrong.
Overall, I love the device, but will return it Monday. I may wait a few weeks to see if any radio updates become widespread that may help. Otherwise, I will have to go with a Sprint EPIC. I wish there were more quality QWERTY Android handsets on the market.
Mine actually works pretty well. I have the hinge issue, but thats it. Really I almost accept the hinge as being a non-spring loaded hinge, which makes it kinda cool that it doesn't need it.
If it did have something locking it into place, thats just something to break later on.
No software issue's here.
Hardware: No issues other than the crappy external speaker. My hinge is fairly tight and I have had the phone since Sept. 30th. I have to hold it by the screen and wiggle it quite a bit before the keyboard drops. Really not an issue.
Software: My phone gets in a state where it is on a black screen and will not respond to power button input. I have to remove the battery for the phone to respond to power button input. It has happened 3 time since the 30th, once on the first day with the phone being straight stock (no apps installed by me). It happens if the phone is left in sleep mode for a long time. If I am constantly using the phone as I am most of the time, I do not see this problem. I am half convinced that it is some of the embedded apps that run in the background all the time. IE: My Account, Photobucket, Finance and all that jazz. When I had my app killer set to thirty minutes I did not see the issue. Now that I have it kill apps when the screen turns off it doesn't kill the apps when left asleep for an extended period and the bug has reared its' ugly head twice since then.
Other than that I love this phone coming from the nexus one. Better data connectivity, better gps lock, way better screen, way better camera, ****tier audio recording quality.
Can't really complain.
I got mine on Oct 1. As far as I can tell, it's perfect. It rebooted once when I had been wandering around our building at work checking the coverage and running speed tests. I'd probably run the xtreme speedtest +30 times. Its been rock solid since and before.
I have no problems and no complaints.
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Sorry for the seemingly inane thread, but hear me out.
I'm considering importing the G2 so that means returning it would be impossible. A few questions before pulling the trigger:
- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Thanks for helping me and apologies for making you fill out a survey like this
i really like the phone, ive had a couple of them to compare. its really fast... with the stock rom, small compared to my hd2, they keyboard is going to take a little getting used to(im a custom to the touch pro), the hardware button for the camera is nice, and its native OS is droid.
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i really like the phone, ive had a couple of them to compare. its really fast... with the stock rom, small compared to my hd2, they keyboard is going to take a little getting used to(im a custom to the touch pro), the hardware button for the camera is nice, and its native OS is droid.
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I love it now that I over clocked it. The fact I can't get fully skinned roms is annoying but we already got overclock which has made this phone zooooom zooom. Fasted phone I have ever used.
Pickx said:
Sorry for the seemingly inane thread, but hear me out.
I'm considering importing the G2 so that means returning it would be impossible. A few questions before pulling the trigger:
- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Thanks for helping me and apologies for making you fill out a survey like this
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The only real issue I've encountered thus far is the loose hinge that closes when you're typing in bed, for example, but I've found that holding the phone a little higher so that your fingers are on the sides of the screen keeps it open. Minor annoyance, to be sure.
Other than that, this phone is ****ing awesome. Personally I like the weight, but objectively it's quite heavy compared to other phones. Overall, I highly recommend it.
Honestly i think the build quality is a little inconsistent, which is common when a phone first launches. I would be very nervous if you cant exchange it if something was wrong. Fortunately for me i work at a retail store that sells phones so I can fully inspect a phone before I buy it. I checked out 3 G2's and only 1 of them was good enough to buy, the other 2 had dust under the screen. My hinge is loose as well but im not bothered by it.
I would probably wait for a few models runs until htc has these things ironed out.
i'll let you know i get mine today (swithching from Touch pro 2)
- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
not really, the device is great, the hspa coverage (for me) is spotty in areas i frequent, thus the only showstopper (for me)
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
number row on keyboard. sure hdmi out woudl be nice but a lot of things would be. possible rgb leds (unless thats been debunked/solved) around the trackpad and charger led
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
i like they keyboard, i find that i actually like swype but havent composed a big, long email yet. i dont really like how the keyboard doesnt feel centered and G/H are slightly to the right which is opposite of coming from a G1 with it being to the left due to the chin. the enter key i feel should be a row down but these are all things you can get accustomed to. the spacing and such are good. im not a huge fan of the hinge since when opened it feels a bit wobbly. i dont doubt its sturdy overall just feels "cheap". its like having a door on a ferrari rattle when you close it or something (you wouldnt complain but you wish it wouldnt do that).
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
the heft is both good and bad. it feels executive like a premium device. the downside is it might be more prone to those accidental drops or something. i dont mind the weight but if i had a pick id wish it would weigh nothing and be 1"x1" but have the display of an ipad. of course these things dont add up.
overall i might take mine back, not for the device at all however. i do like it, its snappy its clean it does what i want (wish the camera was a bit better but again, not a dealbreaker). the only issue i have is with signal, which isnt device related.
- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?Not really, I get weak signal in my apt, but once they release wifi calling that will be fixed. I also have gotten used to the higne and the reboots seem to have stopped for me.
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
Nope, I came from an iPhone to this phoen though, so I was feature light to begin with
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
This is my first keyboard phone and its awesome! pefect thickness, and the keyboard feels great.
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Nah it feels solid, I would run with it, but I'd get some kind of neoprene sleeve/holster for it.
Pickx said:
Sorry for the seemingly inane thread, but hear me out.
I'm considering importing the G2 so that means returning it would be impossible. A few questions before pulling the trigger:
1- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
2- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
3- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
4- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Thanks for helping me and apologies for making you fill out a survey like this
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1, not with mine in particular, dead pixels and a weak hinge would really piss me off though.
2. You know that is one thing I would have liked but not needed. I play emulators ALOT on my phone and it would have been very nice to be able to hook up two wii controllers and bust out some old snes games with my wife on the tv.
3. Extra bulk? You need to start lifting weights if its to heavy for you. Keys are very very nice as long as I cut my nails, I had nails that hadnt been cut for two weeks or so and it was annoying. Females probably wouldnt like it, maybe you just need to get used to it.
4. Bulky? Naw I love it, it just feel cheap and weak.
Well, I just sent mine back to Tmobile for a new one.
Hinge became looser over the few weeks of owning it.
Phone would reboot on it's own from time to time.
Force Closed on apps all the time.
Signal would come in and out.
Don't let what I said scare you. I'm sure I just got a really bad apple, err... phone. I love the phone very much, and hopefully the new one works better. It's a really fast little ****er, no lie!
It does what every phone does and it doesn't do what its not meant to do "drive your car? Hopefully in 5 more years" As 3g or hspa, its deffenitely faster than the iphone 4 or any 3g phone "I live next to philly so I get good service, and I home tested myself since you can't blv ppl this days cuz they lie too much". The weight is cute it makes you feel like you have a 550$ hardware. Only thing I don't like is the opening screen, I thought it should be more solid and have a bit more preassure in it. Overall, I personally like it more than vibrant, feels like a more androidish phone. Only thing I desire is to get my hands on some htc sence.
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This is my first smartphone, so I'm pretty excited about what it can do. Only thing I'd really change right now is the SMS notice. The LED flash needs to either be constant (my preference) or much more frequent than it's currently set now. I can't believe that slipped by in UI testing.
Hmm, thanks for the help so far, you guys are really helpful. I've been playing the waiting game with Android since it launched. So many features are always 'right around the corner' and should be implemented any minute now (higher resolutions as rumored in Gingerbread, Tegra 2/ARM9, Super AMOLED on non-Samsung devices,
BUT, hardware keyboards are way too rare nowadays and this keyboard seems to have been executed quite well. Again, rare.
It's very scary to import a device that could end up with a wobbly hinge or repeated resets... but honestly other than the weight and the rootkit, this phone is extremely appealing. Looks dead sexy too.
It is sexy as hell. With that said, I'm on my second because I wanted the better deal from Costco.....100 vs 200
My first one started rebooting on its own (at least it restarted-my captivate shut down and wouldn't turn back on automatically) and now this one has the screen flicker problem when the brightness is set to low. Ill exchange it.
Overall this phone is the best phone I've had since the iPhone was the latest greatest.
Shipping it in with no option to return would make me nervous.
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Hmm. Maybe I'll get the Desire Z instead. I'll give it a week or so to see if these have less problems.
- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
Not any that I've noticed yet. Build quality throughout the initial release may be an issue- my first G2 had a cracked space bar, weak hinge, and after having the battery die in 6 hours, wouldn't charge or even turn on. The one I've got now? Perfect.
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
Colored notification LED's (whether that's on the speaker or around the track pad), ability to root
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
The keys most certainly don't feel cramped- it's a very, very spacious keyboard. I personally haven't used it very much, since I'm used to Swype, but the times I have used it (for typing URL's, long emails, or long texts) I've found it very comfortable and easy to use.
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
No way, I absolutely love the weight of this phone. It feels expensive, if you know what I mean. If you can find a phone with a strong hinge, the build quality feels absolutely fantastic. I don't job, so I can't tell you if it's good for that, but I can't imagine it would be very good for jogging without securing it to yourself in some way.
Hope this helps! This is the first phone that I've bought and truly been completely satisfied with out of the box. Aside from the rooting issues, this phone is perfect.
I absolutely love it! The thinkg flies! My only issues are no wifi hotspot yet and a few radio issues. These two things will be addressed in an ota update so I'm not too worried about it.
I'm really really loving mine. Had the G1 first, then the N1. Haven't had any of the hinge problems or random reboots. Screen is sharp, phone is super snappy (more so then the N1) and feels/looks like an expensive, proper business phone.
The keyboard is nice and got tons of really positive reviews. I personally liked the G1 keyboard better because it had dedicated number keys and overall seemed faster to type on.
As for negatives, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the crappy loudspeaker yet. I'd google some reviews of the speaker first if that factor is important to you.
Overall its a great device and I am very satisfied with it. Having said that I also didn't have any of the problems other users complained about. If you get one that works like mine I think you'd fall equally in love with it.
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I just recently got the G2 about two days ago and I love it! I previously had the Blackberry Pearl for a few years and thought it was time for an upgrade. This is my first Android phone and so far, it's wonderful. I don't have the loose hinge issue or any other visible problems.
Just still getting used to it, looking for the good apps that'll tickle my funny bone, and reading more on "rooting" and the like. I'm enjoying my experience.
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The Good:
-Speedy, apps launch quickly and the phone is very smooth
-Great size, form factor
-Decent screen and brightness
-GOOD keyboard
-Battery life was impressive
The Bad:
-All three I had (yes, I ended up taking the last one back too) did the reboots in low service areas
-On my morning drive, my HD2 never drops my call. The G2 would drop in 3 places every day
-The hinge was very poorly done, and as someone who started the HTC keyboard phones with the Tytn-II, Touch Pro, and Touch Pro 2, I know they can get it right. This was just a stupid, stupid design.
-No 4gb of storage
-What the hell is with the trackpad? Can we just ditch it and save a bit of space?
I could have looked past the hinge issue, but the obvious radio issues combined with the DRM like protection of the ROM, I decided that TMOUS and HTC could shove it with this phone.
Hey guys, I was just wondering what were your opinions on the g2, and why did you guys pick the mt4g over the g2? I have a g2 myself, and I think it is a fantastic phone. I checked out the mt4g today, and I thought it looked pretty weird and awkwardly designed.
I do not mean to offend anyone, I was just interested in why you decided to pick the mt4g instead of the g2. The mt4g's material just felt weird to me, because it was mixed with plastic and metal, while the g2 has a consistant aluminum feel to it, which makes it seem like a high end device. Also the sense ui seemed downright silly. Then again it might just be me. I also see a lot of people returning their g2 for a mt4g.
What are your opinions/reasons for sticking with the mt4g?(Do you think the mt4g is aesthetically pleasing as the other phones?) Thanks.
I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
Stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
The only other things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera, metal contacts on the side for a dock, and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. Being able to use a dock is nice, although I don't know if I'll ever even buy one. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Last but not least, the genius button. At first, this seemed like a gimmick, but it's actually become one of the reasons I may end up keeping this over the G2. I'll illustrate the power of this little button for you. On both phones, this is how you would send a text message by voice:
G2: Press and hold the search button. Say, "Text John Smith." The text message window appears. You tap the message body, then tap the microphone button. Then you say, "This is a test message." Then you read your message and make sure it looks right. Then you tap send.
myTouch: Press the genius button. Say, "Send text to John Smith." The text message window appears, and a voice asks, "Would you like to dictate?" You say, "Yes." It prompts you to speak, and you say, "This is a test message." It then says, "This is a test message. Would you like to send this message?" You say, "Yes."
On G2, you had to look at your phone 3 different times, read your text message, and press several buttons. On the myTouch, you never looked at your phone, and pressed one button. Obviously if you want to text and drive, the myTouch is the phone for you.
So after all that, did I really sway you one way or the other? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. If you're on the fence, try out the genius button, it may sway your decision.
I had a Nexus One, I liked the idea of the G2, but it was basically exactly the same phone I had in my N1, just with a keyboard and a slightly slower processer. It wasn't worth paying money for something that was going to be the same performance I already had but more weight and bulk.
The MT4G has a faster processor, slightly larger screen, a lot more RAM, a lot more internal memory and I'm starting to like Sense.
I said I would only upgrade my N1 if I found something better, and the MT4G is better, the G2 is basically a Nexus One with a keyboard.
I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
One thing I disagree with is the hard vs. soft keys. I prefer the hard keys. I am sick having to hit a soft key over and over and not have it respond. With the hardware buttons there is no question... just a satisfying click.
I haven't had a single hiccup since I have had my MT4G... so far it is one of the best phones I have ever used... well, one issue... downloading apps off wifi seems to be hit or miss.
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I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
The only other two things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Lastly, stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
So after all that, did I tell you anything of value? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. The end.
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I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
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I edited my post, adding one other thing that I really like about the phone (that I didn't think I would at first) and that's the genius button. Texting without ever looking at your phone is very powerful.
@realitydesign, thanks for the info, it did give me more insight on the mt4g. I did play with the genius button, but I thought it was just another useless bloatware so I quit it.(didnt want to quote you because you posted a pretty long response. I appreciate your opinion, thanks.)
@CyberStorm98, the g2 has a newer processor that outperforms the n1 actually...
Overall I like it a lot more than my G2. Better look overall, feels better in the hand (much, much thinner), glass screen, ffc, customizable LED notification light, the phone is pure win. I like the design of this phone a lot.
If there is an iPhone killer, this is definitely it.
Also, only the white myTouch 4G's have plastic on them. The plum, black, and red models all feature hard rubber.
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My Touch 4G
1GHz - Snapdragon
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 768MB
3.8 inch LCD
Htc G2
800 MHz - Qualcomm
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 512 MB
3.7 inch LCD
So the Mytouch 4g Processor is 200mhz faster (stock) u cant compare the g2 to the mytouch 4g when its overclocked cause thats not a fair comparison.
Mytouch 4g Ram is 256 MB More In Then G2
so the mytouch 4g should be faster but idk if sense ui slows it down vs stock android but thats the only difference in the two that matters
My wife and I are both former G1 users who got them on the initial pre-order. Last July, I replaced my G1 with a Vibrant, while my wife kept hers, in light of rumors that were circulating about the upcoming G2. The Vibrant turned out to be one enormous problem, with nothing more than a gorgeous SAMOLED screen to save it.
The G2's release coincided with my wife's birthday, so I bought it for her. I immediately felt phone envy, as the user experience of the G2 is far superior to the Vibrant. Although I almost bought a G2 as well, I decided to wait for the MT4G, which, by that time, was rumored to be released in November.
So far, the MT4G has been leaps and bounds better than the Vibrant. Yes, the screen is definitely not as beautiful. However, absolutely everything else is far superior. How does the MT4G stack up against the G2?
Both are fantastic phones, geared toward two completely different groups of users. Want vanilla Android and a physical keyboard? The G2 is for you. Want a front-facing camera, Sense UI, and don't care for the physical keyboard? Get the MT4G.
When it comes to the physical buttons on the MT4G, you either love them or hate them. Personally, after using the Vibrant for nearly 4 months, physical buttons are a welcome relief. Every now and then, I'd accidentally touch one of Vibrant's tactile buttons while doing something, causing the phone to perform undesired functions. It didn't happen often, but it surely got annoying when it did.
Since the G2 is underclocked and has less RAM than the MT4G, it's slightly less snappy, but it's not really noticeable during daily use. Again, one phone is not better than the other. Both are equipped with different sets of features for different sets of users.
Its all about perspective, and taste. If you like typing and browsing the web than the g2 would fit you perfectly.. if you like the idea of having two cameras and a slimmer device than go for the MYT4G
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Its up to you really. For some reason I like how g2 doesnt suck up so much memory ram. Mytg4 pretty much uses all its memory
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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I never would have thought of running it 3 times in a row (even though every benchmark I run on a PC I run 3 times) - I ended up eeking out 1922 from the 3rd run.
Trying the 4th time now LOL
WOW - 4th time dropped like a rock! 1653!
Makes me wonder how much credit you REALLY can give to quadrant - especially with the scores that people are getting on a Vibrant with lag fix (I was one of those people). I felt a slight increase in speed on the lagfix, but not enough to justify benchmark scores nearly triple of the originals.
picked a myTouch 4G because i did not like the bulky keyboard
not to mention that the mytouch 4G has a front camera to boot..
I brought back my MT4G and got the G2 and here are my observations....
1) The screen is nicer on the G2 - not that the MT4G screen was bad, this just seems a little more... balanced.
2) I can't quite understand why a "vanilla" android phone (G2) is still running 2.2 when the MT4G that is all MySensed-out has 2.2.1 !
3) The keyboard is really nice, but the hinge is HORRIBLE.
4) I like the lighted notification "Ring" around the trackpad, something the MT4G doesn't have.
5) (I knew this already but I have to put it out there) Stock android's email client works, but doesn't quite have the flair that MySense's email client has.
6) The screen doesn't seem as responsive as the MT4G - not that it's bad, but just not quite as good.
All in all, the G2 is going back and I'm getting my MT4G back tomorrow morning. The hinge issue, well, lets just say that HTC should never had let these out the door like this, and T-Mobile should never have accepted them in this condition. The hinge is a deal breaker for an otherwise VERY nice phone. They should not be charging $50 more for this phone either.
all i gotta say is, myTouch 4G White , Best Phone,.Stock since day 1 no problems yet, battery pretty good,. flawless wifi router.loudspeaker. crisp screen.new to genius button but its been pretty useful, if ur in to Full handsfree mode.
Was sitting in the same boat. Got the G2 first (coming from a Nexus) and decided to give the MT4G a try when it came out.
Looks and size:
At first I found the G2 a lot more aesthetically appealing although I immediately noticed how much thinner and lighter the MT4G felt. Coming from the N1 it took a bit of adjustment to get used to the size and weight of the G2 and the physical keys on the MT4G. Having said that I really like how the G2 lays in your hand when you're web browsing with the keyboard open.
Look wise the MT4G is definitely not a Nexus 2. In my opinion the aluminum rim looks a little out of place and I don't like how the battery cover doesn't match with the colors on the red and plum model. On the black model the aluminum does not stand out as much because it blends in nicely with the black. Since it's more subtle it actually ends up looking quite good. I definitely could have gone with soft buttons instead of the physical ones but that's my personal preference.
Keyboard:
Whether you want a keyboard or not definitely comes down to personal preference. It's nice to have one but you pay for it in additional size and weight. The keyboard got great reviews so I assume a lot of people like it. I personally wasn't a big fan. Typing seemed slower and more strenuous than on my G1 because of the large keys and lack of dedicated number keys. I would have liked it better with 4 rows instead of 3 (bringing back the numbers) and smaller keys to start with. I also never quite got used to the special function keys HTC decided to add. Due to their prominent positioning one is quite prone to accidentally hitting them.
One major flaw of the keyboard is that you have no control over the keyboard backlighting. Until some custom rom fixes the issue, the light will come on and off and on and off etc when you're inside because the light sensor can't make up its mind. I found myself more than once covering the light sensor with my finger to force the backlight to come on because I had problems seeing the keys in the light condition I was in and had no way of forcing it to stay on.
Build quality:
When you put the phones next to each other you'll notice that most of the materials are the same. Both have metal battery covers and use hard rubber for the rest. Even the screens are identical (despite some rumors going around). The main difference is the front of the G2 with the soft keys vs plastic physical keys on the MT4G. G2 wins hands down in that area but I don't think this difference is nearly as significant as the controversial hinge when talking about quality and durability. I guess only time will tell how that'll play out. Considering how many people have sent their G2 back because of the hinge you should be prepared that it MIGHT be a problem in the long run.
Operating system/interface:
Since we have root there's really no point in comparing sense (+ genius button) to stock since you'll eventually be able to run either one on either device. It might be more important to consider dev support. So far the G2 seems to have more support but you also have to keep in mind that the MT4G has barely been out for a week. That considered it still got root the same day the G2 did and ClockworkMod recovery was ported to the MT4G 8 hours after the G2 got it. I even already saw pictures of a MT4G running an experimental version of CyanogenMod 6. Since the devices are so similar you can expect that most stuff for the G2 will be ported to the MT4G rather quickly and vice versa. One other thing to consider is that video chat will probably be an integral part of gingerbread. Makes me wonder how the G2 will hold up in the android 3.0 era (although I'm sure custom roms will work around it).
Unique features:
G2: keyboard, click mechanism for battery cover
MT4G: front facing camera (FFC), 256MB additional RAM, 100 mAh better battery, hot swappable micro sd card
Verdict:
Both are great phones. I ended up picking the MT4G (black) because size mattered more to me than the keyboard and I liked the additional ram. I also liked having the FFC. Those are things no custom rom can add and ended up mattering more to me than aesthetics. I also noticed my hinge getting slightly looser during the 3 weeks I had the G2 which worried me a little. If you want a keyboard however, or really dig that clean cut business look, the G2 is your phone. Good luck deciding.
I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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The screens are exactly the same. It's the software which is causing the difference.
Currently using a Nexus One, actually have 2 of them. Have the opportunity to make a straight trade for a G2 for one of my N1's.
Other than the keyboard and "4G" connection, is there anything that really is different about these hardware wise?
I know the N1 will get updates faster, but with the use of custom roms this does not affect me. Also, dont have much use for a keyboard, so would this even be a beneficial trade in anyway?
Guess i am just a little confused, any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
G2 is pretty much better in every way except the screen. I have both.
I had a Nexus One and then got a G2 in a BOGO offer at T-Mo. I find myself using the Nexus more. The G2 has some weird issues, like updates to Google Apps that are pre-installed causing force closes (Google Earth, for one, and I can't install the new version of Maps because it constantly runs and shows up as 80% on battery usage when I check to see why it's draining). I also hate how bulky/heavy it is (and it's more annoying since I don't use the keyboard). I have small hands so I find it more comfortable to hold my Nexus. If you use a case (which I need, I tend to drop phones) the phone doesn't stay fully closed due to how the cases snap on.
I guess it depends on your usage. Since you'll be keeping a Nexus, then maybe it'll be fine. If you won't miss the second Nexus, then go for it.
Thanks for the input so far.
I think one of the unknown factors that i am trying to decide is....will the N1 get updates as long as the G2 will? I know the N1 is a developers phone, but with the NS coming out, do any of you think the N1 will stop getting updates although the hardware may very well still support it? With the G2 being 6-8 months newer, will it get updates longer in the future than the N1?
I know we really dont know the answer to this, but it would be interesting to see what you guys think.
Also keep in mind that the G2 is SIGNIFICANTLY heavier than the nexus one. i think it's almost a half-again heavier and that can be a big deal.
If you are going to have a N1 extra I say do it! I have a N1 and have used a G2 before. I hate keyboards built into a phone but that is just my preference. I would not worry about the N1 loosing support because of the NS the N1 I think will always be supported and updated if not always at least until the N1 can not handle newer Android OS. Only then will I upgrade to what ever Nexus is available at that time.
Trade and if you hate it find someone who will trade you for a NS or a N1 again!!
In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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I think the keyboard is what really makes it the G1's successor.. people were waiting for that.
this is a tough decision. i love the G2 because it's build quality and materials are just like the nexus one, which i love. but i never use a physical keyboard, so that's wasted space to me. but the g2 has the better snapdragon CPU and better GPU, but the nexus one has a better form factor.
since you will still have a nexus one after the trade, go for the g2.
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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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The screen is sharper because it is a SLCD like some of the newer N1's, but it uses a back light so the blacks aren't as deep as our AMOLED N1s. My Co-Worker has one and I like it.... but would I trade it for my N1... no.
The G2 is noticeably heavier and thicker. The optical sensor works and supposedly it has a "trackball light" notification around it but I haven't seen it in action. While I dislike keyboard phones, it is comparable to the Nexus. They truly look like brothers.
I don't know if a G2 could replace my Nexus, but if you have 2 N1's and looking for something different then it might be worth a trade.
You guys have been really helpful. Some really good points have been made about both the N1 and G2.
Now i gotta sleep on it and figure out what i decide to do. Will let you guys know!
Leaning towards keeping the second N1 right now....
The G2 is Free on T-Mobile right now if that helps your decision.
yes free G2 and call 611 and say cancel and if you have been a long time customer and paid your bills on time you can ask for the $20 data plan.
I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying
Same dilemma
Well I have the same question. First off, I appreciate this post in general, everyone definitely seems to have good input and good opinions that they back up well. I have kind of the same "issue" so to speak. I am getting a new G2 tomorrow, but I know someone who is willing to give me 100 dollars plus a mint condition n1 for it, what do you guys think I should do? I'm just afraid that in terms of day-day function, the n1 will be slower. Any info is much appreciated!
I considered getting a G2 for a while as well. A few things turned me off:
1. The size of the thing compared to a N1 - this thing is a hefty brick!
2. "Pure" Google, not really...seeing how TMobile conveniently removed tethering, but this can be solved through root
3. The MMS bugs
4. The N1 Car/Home dock are just too slick to give up.
omgdwong said:
I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying
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yeah i just cant stress enough how excellent the color trackball is on the n1. having color blink in succession, so when i'm at work and i see it blink from red to green to blue to yellow to cyan, and instantly KNOW what each of my 5 messages are, is truly useful. its more useful then anyone without it could ever understand, and its highly under rated i think by many. it may sound cheesy to say "i like colors", but talk about functional and cool at the same time. the perfectly centered nipple just looks classy.