I've had my MT4G since release but i'm only getting between 1.5-3mbps down in downtown Pittsburgh, which supposedly has HSPA+. Do I need a new SIM card to get HSPA+ speed? I've been using my SIM i've had for a long time.
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I've had my MT4G since release but i'm only getting between 1.5-3mbps down in downtown Pittsburgh, which supposedly has HSPA+. Do I need a new SIM card to get HSPA+ speed? I've been using my SIM i've had for a long time.
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I got mine just after release too, and the rep told me I needed a "4G SIM" to get 4G speeds. However, I'm in a HSPA+ area and have never seen over 2 Mpbs down, so I'm in the same boat as you.
You should not need a new SIM. I am using the same SIM I got with my SGH-T915 (old, crappy little flip phone -- free) in 2007; my speeds are fine in my area.
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What did you do with the sim that came with the phone?
Tossed it in a drawer. It's nice to have spares and not buy a new one should I ever need one .
I'm beginning to wonder if T-Mo's "4G" network is all smoke and mirrors.
I've never seen anything approaching 4G speeds on my (or my wife's or co-worker's 4G phones-MT4G and G2) phone in any area of Houston, which was one of the early 4G cities.
I was also told to use the newer SIM that came with the MT4G rather than my 3 year old SIM. Still made no difference in speeds.
Seeing an H?
If you see an H near the signal bars on the notification bar instead of a 3 your on the + network. I've never seen speeds above 3.5 in DC. Usually between 1 and 2.
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If you see an H near the signal bars on the notification bar instead of a 3 your on the + network. I've never seen speeds above 3.5 in DC. Usually between 1 and 2.
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Well, depends on who you ask. If you look at what network you are on (UMTS, HDSPA, HSPA or HSPA+) that is the real indicator of whether or not you are on 3G or 4G.
According to T-Mobile UMTS is actually 3G. I fluctuate between UMTS and HDSPA (or is it HSDPA?). NEVER seen HSPA or HSPA+. The only network indicators I have seen in my status bar are H, E and G, never 3g (even if I am on a 3G network).
I've been a T-Mobile customer for a long time so I had an old SIM for at least 6+ years. When I got my MT4G last month, the phone sometimes would not recognize the old SIM so I went to my local store and told them my issue, the CSR gave me a new SIM free of charge and told me that I needed a new SIM for 4G. So if you have an old SIM card, just visit a local store, they might just give you a new SIM card as they did for me....
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If you are on the stock MySense Android software from HTC and T-Mobile, "H" means 3G or 4G, there is no differentiation.
I'm in a 4G city, but the 4G locations are spotty. In one of them, I've gotten better than 6Mbit download speed. With a six or eight year old SIM card.
I just bought this phone for my wife and have been doing speedtests in random places between this phone and my vibrant. The diff. in speed is very minimal. after numerous speed tests the mytouch 4g is about 100 to 150 kbps faster. Not enough for tmobile to be touting thier 4g network.
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Changing SIM cards doesn't help. I have been using a 6 years old SIM, and switched to the new SIM that came with the phone. Absolutely no difference in speed. On the downside, it messed up all my contacts and my T-Mobile sync doen't work anymore.
You Don't need a new SIM
As long as the old SIM has proper contact and is intact you don't need a new SIM. CSR's are not technical people or engineers for that matter. They feed whatever they told from tech. support. There is not difference in SIM technology since it was first came into being since 1998.
Since GSM is a standard and the underlying technology of T-Mobile for voice communication, SIM cards sold before and now are no different. The requsite info is still in the old SIM card and used for authentication for communication, just the Radio is more advance and different (HSPA+).
Infact there are two radios inside our mobiles that allow simultaneous Voice and Data
1- GSM(which is inclusive of GPRS & EDGE) - Voice
2- 3G(UMTS - WCDMA, HSDPA, HSPA+) - Data
and they both use the same basic authentication provided in those 6+ years old SIM card provided the gold contact are still intact.
yeah im in the same boat, im have teh H sign, but I average only about 1-2m up, and 1 down
ive never gotten remotely close to some of the 3-8 down speeds ive seen people post
The highest I've gone is about 3.85m down and 1.3m up. And thats not even at home. I get maybe 1 down and even less up at the house with a new sim, so I agree it doesn't matter.
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Anyone here from Canada that have seen 3G on their Xperia??? I am not sure what's going on since officially Rogers (FIDO) supports 1900 3G, or at least it worked a year ago on my Nokia E51 which is was only 1900 for North American 3G. Xperia refuses to get any signal when I am switching it to 3G mode.
Anyone?
Sorry, Nokia e51 was only 850 3G. That's explains it....
So you're not getting any 3G action on Rogers/Fido?
That's too bad.
I thought that 3G would work in Canada, and I'm really tempted to buy the X1, based on this
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6165
Ah, now I see some more clarification on the subject:
from the Pocketnow article comments:
"The Xperia X1i does not have the 850 Band.
Users in Canada, where they mostly have the 850 Band, have not been able to use 3G on their Xperia.
In the US, 850 and 1900 Bands overlap with more coverage by 1900 than the 850 Band. So, you will get 1900 Band reception wherever there is 850 Band but not the other way around.
http://www.cellularmap.net/att_850_1900.shtml"
Yea that sucks. But having edge is much better than using gprs...which is what i'm stuck with at the moment.
Will have to see how the phone is when it comes in 1-2 days.
I'm a Fido user as well and waiting on my Xperia (should be here tomorrow!). I've been driving myself nuts by trying to determine whether or not Rogers/Fido users will be able to pickup 3G with the X1i.
I'll definitely contribute my findings to this thread, as hopefully we can keep it going even if there is no 3G on the X1i yet...It would be a dream come true if the X1i was able to have the X1a's firmware flashed to it which could then change the frequency of the UMTS band (or something like that).
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Yea that sucks. But having edge is much better than using gprs...which is what i'm stuck with at the moment.
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NEvolution, are you saying that if we don't pick up a 3G signal with the X1i, then it should fall back to EDGE which is faster than GPRS? Reason I ask is that my HTC Universal now has GPRS only, so at least I would be getting a _small_ upgrade in speed.
Plus with the cost of data in Canada and the quicker rate at which you'll burn through 3G bytes, it's still not very tempting for me just yet.
Yea, that was the case with the Touch Pro when I had it. Since it didn't have 850 3G it was always on EDGE. It never even touched GPRS cause EDGE is everywhere for me.
I would assume it's exactly the same case with the X1i, and any other phone with supported bands.
As for burning through data, I've got 6GBs a month to use so I'm not worried
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As for burning through data, I've got 6GBs a month to use so I'm not worried
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Yea unfortunately I missed my opportunity to grab that option...I have City Fido, and when I called, the CSR said I couldn't just add it on...then later another CSR said that I could have, but now it's expired. 1gb for $30...b0o.
aww boo...I haven't even gotten past 1GB/mth yet. Seems pretty hard to use it up since the max I have is EDGE for now, and that includes tethering and using it as a wifi router too.
well in that case, $30 for 1gb on EDGE might not do me too bad. What are the speeds that you're getting with Rogers on EDGE?
Can't test at the moment as my backup phone only has GPRS.
But when I was using EDGE on my Touch Pro the speeds were pretty decent. Average pages load reasonably fast using Opera.
Roger 3G
Rogers 3G network is down, it has been down for the last month and a bit, they are trying to fix stuff so they turned it of and only the 2G network is working at the moment. It is not your devices.
They are not sure when it will be up again
coolturbog, I think you're right - I haven't had 3G on my Kaiser for at least a month.
Other writers are saying that the X1i completely lacks the 850 band. Although the software (WWE) says it's present, it's not.
I hope that's not true.
Just tested browsing speed using i.dslr.net/tinyspeedtest.html on Opera.
On EDGE: 110 kbps
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Rogers 3G network is down, it has been down for the last month and a bit, they are trying to fix stuff so they turned it of and only the 2G network is working at the moment. It is not your devices.
They are not sure when it will be up again
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I am getting a strong 3G signal on my Nokia E71 all the time with the descent speed of 800 kbit to 1 Mbit. And it's been like that for the last 4 months. So, your statement about Rogers network being down it's not correct. I've heard some rumors that they are not allowing Windows Mobile devices to utilize 3G speeds completely, but again - I am not sure how legitimate those obligations are. On the other hand - with Rogers monopoly in GSM arena - everything is possible....
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I am getting a strong 3G signal on my Nokia E71 all the time with the descent speed of 800 kbit to 1 Mbit. And it's been like that for the last 4 months. So, your statement about Rogers network being down it's not correct. I've heard some rumors that they are not allowing Windows Mobile devices to utilize 3G speeds completely, but again - I am not sure how legitimate those obligations are. On the other hand - with Rogers monopoly in GSM arena - everything is possible....
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Same here, my E71-2 has had solid 3G reception since I've got it (2 months almost) and no issues with Rogers.
Umm... I'm in Toronto and with Rogers. I never was able to get 3G on my XPERIA X1i, though I took this interesting screenshot for you guys to look at....
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I also tried changing between HSDPA ONLY and HSDPA/HSUPA in the Advanced settings under Start --> Settings --> Connections... (it requires a soft reset with each change), but still all I get is EDGE....
The connection settings are automatic from the "ROGERS" cellular network and the settings confirm it is using the modem "Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)".....
hmmm......
Can any of you try the patch I got from x1a?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450754
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Can any of you try the patch I got from x1a?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450754
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yep; just tried it. didn't do anything for me...
How did you extract it from an X1a? May you please upload the entire X1a ROM's?
I'm using the X1i in SW Ontario and I get perfectly usable 3G coverage, as I've gotten with all the SE products I've used with Rogers (K850, Z750, W760)
Just my two cents
So according to Phonscoop.com Tmobile offically launched HSPA+. Apparently its in 50 markets.
So whoes got it? What kind of speeds are you getting. I have in my city.
Im getting 2.025mb/s Down and 601kbps/sec up
about 3 to 6mbps because you most likely have a device that can only do 7.2 megabites per second until a hspa+ device is available at the end of this summer. Max theoretical speed should be 21mbps, but thats going to be next year when tmobile lets the 42mbps network go into place.
My speed test says im getting 5007 download and 1583 upload..Not bad. It used to stay around 3500 DL.
The slide will support higher than 7.5 MB correct?
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The way I understand it; the slide will be limited tp 7.2mbps spped. They have to install a hatdware upgrade to the towers to support HSPA+ at 42mbps and that will require a different radio.
I know its not the same; but think of it like sprint. You need a 4G phone (EVO) to get WiMax 4G network service.
If I'm wrong; someone pleae correct me (but politely).
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The way I understand it; the slide will be limited tp 7.2mbps spped. They have to install a hatdware upgrade to the towers to support HSPA+ at 42mbps..
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I genuinely hope you are because I explicitly asked the rep if this phone would support the new HSPA+ and of course the response was "Yes"!
You cannot compare Sprint because they went from 3G to 4G and that required a change in hardware both at the towers and the device. Tmobile HSPA+, from what I researched, only requires hardware upgrades on the towers and firmware updates to the newer 3G devices. I would be highly pissed if this isn't the case!
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The rep told me too that the Slide would support HSPA+ From all the articals though i do not think this is 100% ture. But 7.2mb/s is fast enough for me on a phone.
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The rep told me too that the Slide would support HSPA+ From all the articals though i do not think this is 100% ture. But 7.2mb/s is fast enough for me on a phone.
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Sounds like we spoke to the same rep!
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Sounds like we spoke to the same rep!
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i also asked tech support from the 1800 number too. They said the slide would support it up to 15mb/sec. We'll have to see. Right now i am happy with my 2+mb/sec speeds
The way I've understood it is that phones like the Slide will see improvements in speed, but since they are not HSPA+ phones, you won't get the full benefit.
The plus side is that you won't need a new phone and you'll see faster speeds. Downside is that people with a new phone will see faster speeds.
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The way I've understood it is that phones like the Slide will see improvements in speed, but since they are not HSPA+ phones, you won't get the full benefit.
The plus side is that you won't need a new phone and you'll see faster speeds. Downside is that people with a new phone will see faster speeds.
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I think you are right on this.
But if i get speeds of 5-7mb/s on my phone i will be more then happy. Esp if im already happy with my 2mb+/s speeds.
I really dont think that anyone needs 15mb/s on a phone. With speeds like that the phone then becomes the bottleneck.
The T-Mobile twitter also told me it was an HSPA+ phone...
All I'm saying is that I don't expect the full HSPA+ speed, but I do expect faster than 7.2 Mbs!
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is hspa+ like wimax or lte (4g)
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is hspa+ like wimax or lte (4g)
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In respect to increased speeds, yes but that is it. HSPA+ utilizes the current Tmobile's 3G network and is really fast. Theoretically the top speed is less then the other two but it is significantly cheaper and easier to rollout HSPA+.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA+
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Location: Eden Prairie, MN (41.99900, -87.82200)
All I get in my town is Edge
At home I pretty much barely get any signal so I end up using WIFI alot.
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Location: Eden Prairie, MN (41.99900, -87.82200)
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bits, not bytes. 8 megabits per second = 1 megabyte per second if I'm not mistaken.
HSPA+ as an extension of HSPA is backward compatible with HSPA. Only HSPA+ devices will see speeds greater than 7.2mb, but you can use a HSPA phone on an HSPA+ network in the same way you can use an edge phone on a 3g network.
All android devices from T-Mobile have an HSPA internal modem, they don't currently sell a phone with an HSPA+ modem and you will not see speeds exceeding 7.2mb on a slide as it has an HSPA modem.
T-mobile is rumored to be announcing their first HSPA+ phone late this summer, suspected to be an HTC vanguard.
Anyone else deal with this? I am getting great signal (same on my phone) But they data is just abhorrent. I usually hover in the sub 100kb/s area in my down speed. And that is when it chooses to bestow data on me at all.
Any ideas?
Are you getting 3G or EDGE? I'm connected through AT&T 3G at the moment and it's rather speedy. I usually clock in around 3mbps. The speed you describe is more typical of EDGE.
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I can be connected to the 3g/H network and get crap speeds too. At&t is weak in my area (Southern California).
Yeah, I am getting 3g/H all of the time (never edge)
I am in NYC of all places it should be super fast.
We both live in populated areas - does the number of users on the net account for our slow speeds?
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And there is what I mean...
I'm getting the same abysmal speeds on my galtab on AT&T with Overcome ROM and the JK3 modem. It bounces between H and 3G all the time.
I'm in the Seattle area, and people with iPhones get great speeds.
To top it all off, somehow AT&T somehow thinks I'm using 90% of my 250mb every month at these pitiful speeds.
mykie242 said:
. . . somehow AT&T somehow thinks I'm using 90% of my 250mb every month at these pitiful speeds.
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Pain AND suffering. Maybe time to try the JPD modem?
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Pain AND suffering. Maybe time to try the JPD modem?
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I just flashed JPD and there was no change, but then I tried KM2 and now I'm getting awesome speeds.
Thanks!
JPD slight improvement.
I'm in Seattle...not sure what happened but km2 was blazing fast at first, then it slowed down.
Back to jpd, and its better, but still faster than before.
Edit: JPD did the same thing as Km2, started out fast, then slowed waaay down. I'm back on KM2 again, lets see how this handles for awhile.
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My speeds are ok my service just sucks
I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm on stock ROM, stock modem, in a somewhat major city and I always pull pretty good speeds, well fast enough for streaming YouTube and Netflix.
I do know that NYC is not AT&T's best friend. People tend to have a pretty poor experience with the service there. But Seattle, no idea. Try a SIM pull, as that severs the registration with the tower and forces a fresh one which usually results in a much better connection. Failing that, I'd either blame the region (less likely) or the device (rather likely).
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AT&T Download - terrible!
Having the same problem in the NYC area. Does anyone know the answer to a few questions:
Which is the best AT&T modem for voice and data on Gingerbread?
What are the correct/optimal APN Settings for this config?
Could AT&T be crippling this because I switched the SIM from a free-o "smartphone" I had to buy to get voice and data? (I have the tethered plan just so I don't get nastry-grams from them)?
Do you have to pull the SIM each time you re--flash the modem to reset the network?
I just switched to AT&T because I need telephony on the Tab (had T-mo and couldn't take the modem/switch thing).
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Having the same problem in the NYC area. Does anyone know the answer to a few questions:
Which is the best AT&T modem for voice and data on Gingerbread?
What are the correct/optimal APN Settings for this config?
Could AT&T be crippling this because I switched the SIM from a free-o "smartphone" I had to buy to get voice and data? (I have the tethered plan just so I don't get nastry-grams from them)?
Do you have to pull the SIM each time you re--flash the modem to reset the network?
I just switched to AT&T because I need telephony on the Tab (had T-mo and couldn't take the modem/switch thing).
Thanks in advance for any help.
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I can't answer about the modem, but the apn setting that you'll need to use, if Broadband doesn't work, is ISP.cingular (no username or password); both are potentially available when you have a tethering plan. The wap.cingular apn cannot be programmed on the Tab when using the stock ROM.
I've used a couple SIM cards for a couple different lines aside from the SIM provided with the Tab and there has been no effect on the connection speed. In fact, I never even activated the SIM that came with it.
But at&t can see the device you're using by virtue of the fact that your SIM is inserted and connected. If they want, they can, and in some cases will, nail you for using a device that's not authorized with your line. Remember that US companies will not classify this as a smartphone as they do elsewhere in the world...it's more in the realm of the netbook, and technically warrants an according plan.
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AT&T APN and Modem Settings
I am on the OC Jupiter ROM so no problem editing APN settings. I didn't activate the SIM that came with the Tab and I canceled the plan last week to be sure I wouldn't be billed.
I bought the tethering plan to be sure I wouldn't run afoul of their contract. I don't want to do anything but use the device I paid for with the features Samsung baked into it. Seems nuts that we have to go through these hoops when the folks in Europe have been enjoying fully functional devices for nearly a year now.
I re-set the APN to the default after re-flashing the JK3 modem yesterday and at it jumped up from .7 mbps to just under 3 mbps. Still not optimal (I used to get 5 mbps on TMo service/Tab, but no phone - that's another story). I now have to remember to tick the in-call volume down two notches and as I am testing again this morning the speed has fallen off some again.
Will try your apn settings and let you know if I have better luck. Thanks for the advice!
I've been rocking the KM2 modem since last week with my prepaid AT&T (APN: Broadband), and have been getting really good speeds throughout the Seattle area.
I'd say for my tab, it's a winner!
What rom are you using?
Have you used a voice and data sim with that modem? You would have to select the wap.cingular apn, and have a rom different than stock (stock won't let you use any apn other than Broadband).
On Overcome ROM
@rangercaptain - I am on the OC Jupiter ROM, and have a voice/data SIM from AT&T. Have the WAP.Cingular APN and added Broadband. That in and of itself boosted the speed to 2.5 mbps down, which is ok but not great. Was on the JK3 modem (and have to keep remembering that volume control is two ticks down). Just switched to KM2 based on @mykie242's report.
Speed tests don't go above 1.2 mbps down now, but the browser does seem to be a whole lot faster (really odd). Will use for a couple of days, then try JPD and report back.
I am in the NY Metro area if that helps. Many thanks again!
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(stock won't let you use any apn other than Broadband).
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Not to pick a nit, but stock will permit you to add isp.cingular, the basic, pre-broadband tethering APN.
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This is more of a question about user experience. I have had some people tell me that it is a great service alternative for anyone using an unlocked cell phone, like the gsm gnex, but I have also heard a few horror stories.
One would be a friend got double charged for one month, was refused a refund, and had terrible signal quality anywhere he went. (he used an att compatible sim and he was living in the northern area of florida.)
Any one out there have similar experience in poor customer service and signal ability/quality? My plan is to cut off my contract, buy a gsm nexus and go forward with straight talk.
I was on AT&T Straight Talk and hated it. The signal was poor and data speeds are slow. If you use even a little bit of data, Straight Talk will throttle you. The max speed I would get at times is 2mbps and sometimes even as low as 800 kbps, which is ridiculous considering it's supposed to be 4G. Thus, I immediately switch out and back to T-mobile.
I've heard that T-mobile Straight Talk is much better, that people got speeds of up to 8-10 mbps, much better than AT&T's anyways >.>
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I was on AT&T Straight Talk and hated it. The signal was poor and data speeds are slow. If you use even a little bit of data, Straight Talk will throttle you. The max speed I would get at times is 2mbps and sometimes even as low as 800 kbps, which is ridiculous considering it's supposed to be 4G. Thus, I immediately switch out and back to T-mobile.
I've heard that T-mobile Straight Talk is much better, that people got speeds of up to 8-10 mbps, much better than AT&T's anyways >.>
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I've heard stuff like that but my usage on data per month is <1.5gb if that. I mainly use it for browsing, facebook, and app downloads. Now in my area I only have the option to get the AT&T sim package. I'm planning on buying a GSM GNex and trying it out for a month. The worst that could happen is that I have an att compatible 3G+ phone and I can turn around and sell that easy if I stick with verizon.
I guess what I worry most about is call quality, signal strength, and the ability to quick access my favorite websites. If I can get that reliably from straight talk I'll switch. Does anyone think those are too high of requirements?
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I've heard stuff like that but my usage on data per month is <1.5gb if that. I mainly use it for browsing, facebook, and app downloads. Now in my area I only have the option to get the AT&T sim package. I'm planning on buying a GSM GNex and trying it out for a month. The worst that could happen is that I have an att compatible 3G+ phone and I can turn around and sell that easy if I stick with verizon.
I guess what I worry most about is call quality, signal strength, and the ability to quick access my favorite websites. If I can get that reliably from straight talk I'll switch. Does anyone think those are too high of requirements?
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What about T-Mobile? The $30 plan does pretty good and it's only 10 cents a minute after the first 100.
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What about T-Mobile? The $30 plan does pretty good and it's only 10 cents a minute after the first 100.
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I don't have T-mobile in my area. No signal coverage really at all. All that I could possibly get is 2g (edge) at best.
vx117 said:
I was on AT&T Straight Talk and hated it. The signal was poor and data speeds are slow. If you use even a little bit of data, Straight Talk will throttle you. The max speed I would get at times is 2mbps and sometimes even as low as 800 kbps, which is ridiculous considering it's supposed to be 4G. Thus, I immediately switch out and back to T-mobile.
I've heard that T-mobile Straight Talk is much better, that people got speeds of up to 8-10 mbps, much better than AT&T's anyways >.>
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I had the AT&T sim and you're right on both counts. With the AT&T sim I could barely get 800 kbps. I switched to the T-Mo sim and I've never been below 1700 kbps. BTW, it's not 4G, it's HSPA (3.5G).
fatclue said:
I had the AT&T sim and you're right on both counts. With the AT&T sim I could barely get 800 kbps. I switched to the T-Mo sim and I've never been below 1700 kbps. BTW, it's not 4G, it's HSPA (3.5G).
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That makes me sad. Do you know of any other gsm att 3g alternatives? I am sick of paying $130 a month for 2 lines.
It really depends on where you are. Here's mine from NYC with the AT&T SIM. Also I chose the AT&T SIM because most international phones use AT&T frequencies and also because here in NYC T-Mobile only gets EDGE in a lot of places, including my campus. I work near Radio City Hall/Central Park West and yes data speeds suffer, all the way down to 300-600 kbps, but that's forgivable given the amount of people on the network. My entire building uses AT&T. But again, it depends where YOU live. AT&T tends to have better coverage in most places (they're like Verizon but GSM), while T-Mobile has faster speeds but far less coverage:
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Me -- unlocked galaxy nexus on the 30 dollar t-mobile plan, my speeds in my town at work are great.. at my house in the sticks no signal in my house, but cant complain, bout the price,,
wife ( iphone 4 ) oldest daughter ( atrix 4g ) both on straight talk.. and both rock but att coverage is perfect down here so that makes sense,,
Its all bout location,,, but its better than paying out the rear on post paid contracts lol
So before I got my OPO I did a lot of reading on which networks it works on etc.
I was going to take the plunge and go for EE as that was the only network with 100% working in the UK.
However there was some temptation to go for 3 (unlimited data) but it wasn't 100% working according to reports, so I took the gamble.
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
The issue lies with the slower connections...
There is no G, there is no E, and no 3G. Anything below H is unavailable.
This doesn't bother me too much as if I don't have H or better I find it tedious to use anyway!
Like I said, just a quick heads up in case you didn't want to take the gamble yourself.
GPRS and Edge are 2g, which the Three network does not support anyway, so regardless of phone you will not get GRPS / Edge on Three.
Three used to let you roam on the Orange network a few years ago where it was possible to get 2g services in certain areas Three had no coverage, however i don't think this is the case anymore now.
Edit: Apparently in some rural areas you can still roam on EE for calls and texts, however not data.
I can also confirm the One Plus works perfectly fine on Three, i get HSPA / HSPA everywhere, and even 4g at work. I imagine its possible to get just 3g too, however i've never had anything lower than HSPA at home or where i work even on my older phones for many years. Its been very rare i've only had 3g on Three.
So far on a 4g speedtest i've had 30mbps download and 22mbps upload, very impressed! :good:
using 16gb OPO with cyanogenmod 11, on 3 network and no problem at all, LTE works perfectly and even 3g no problem at all.
Nxpx said:
using 16gb OPO with cyanogenmod 11, on 3 network and no problem at all, LTE works perfectly and even 3g no problem at all.
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I'm guessing you're in a city where the 4G isn't on the 800mhz band (not supported by OPO apparently)
I have seen my opo working fine on threes network and I get close to 30mbps easily on EE
@Insane nutter, that explains a lot thanks..
My OPO keeps popping up with a roaming message. So I'm assuming if I roam on to another UK network I'm not gonna get charged extra for it?
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InsaneNutter said:
GPRS and Edge are 2g, which the Three network does not support anyway, so regardless of phone you will not get GRPS / Edge on Three.
Three used to let you roam on the Orange network a few years ago where it was possible to get 2g services in certain areas Three had no coverage, however i don't think this is the case anymore now.
Edit: Apparently in some rural areas you can still roam on EE for calls and texts, however not data.
I can also confirm the One Plus works perfectly fine on Three, i get HSPA / HSPA everywhere, and even 4g at work. I imagine its possible to get just 3g too, however i've never had anything lower than HSPA at home or where i work even on my older phones for many years. Its been very rare i've only had 3g on Three.
So far on a 4g speedtest i've had 30mbps download and 22mbps upload, very impressed! :good:
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You mean GPRS or 4G in your first sentence
oscarandjo said:
You mean GPRS or 4G in your first sentence
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I get 4g on Three in my local area despite Three saying 4g has not been enabled here yet on their coverage map.
earni said:
So before I got my OPO I did a lot of reading on which networks it works on etc.
I was going to take the plunge and go for EE as that was the only network with 100% working in the UK.
However there was some temptation to go for 3 (unlimited data) but it wasn't 100% working according to reports, so I took the gamble.
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
The issue lies with the slower connections...
There is no G, there is no E, and no 3G. Anything below H is unavailable.
This doesn't bother me too much as if I don't have H or better I find it tedious to use anyway!
Like I said, just a quick heads up in case you didn't want to take the gamble yourself.
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I have it on the 3 network and it works fine, that said I am not in the countryside...
earni said:
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
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You wonderful man, now I can grab that £15 Unlimited everything, 200 minutes SIM I've been waiting for, :good:
I'm on Three in London and 4g works fine. Do note three also use the 800MHz or Band 20 for 4G too but I think that is in rural areas for the time being.
I'm on Three and 4G in Newcastle doesn't work for me.
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I'm on Three in London and 4g works fine. Do note three also use the 800MHz or Band 20 for 4G too but I think that is in rural areas for the time being.
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How is the Internet speed in London on three? I saw on three till last year and had the worst speeds at my work place near Liverpool Street.. Moved to giffgaff and happy with 3g speeds but tempted to give three a try again just for the sake of 4g.
I can get 3G, H/H+ and 4G on Three. They do have a 3G network but most of the time it will use H/H+ instead as the signal is basically the same and the phone prefers H/H+ due to it being faster.
I haven't used the phone in the country, and I don't think I will be able to anyway
Is it possible to check which towns/cities are covered by specific bands to see if 4G would work in the area?
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How is the Internet speed in London on three? I saw on three till last year and had the worst speeds at my work place near Liverpool Street.. Moved to giffgaff and happy with 3g speeds but tempted to give three a try again just for the sake of 4g.
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They are fine mate. Taken this morning in East London. I'm happy with these speeds, have to bare in mind London is very congested so we won't see crazy 50+ speeds until the network further improves but I'm happy with these speeds.
I've had good speeds around Euston, Central, whilst on the tube in signalled areas generally around my area East they are more than fine.
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earni said:
@Insane nutter, that explains a lot thanks..
My OPO keeps popping up with a roaming message. So I'm assuming if I roam on to another UK network I'm not gonna get charged extra for it?
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Enable roaming - you won't get charged any extra while in the UK, and it will allow you to call and text on EE (this connectivity is part of Three's network - they only offer a 3G+ network, so they let you roam on EE where they don't have coverage).
I've tried 4g in Midlands and Yorkshire and it works perfectly well.
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I'm on Three and 4G in Newcastle doesn't work for me.
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Is that coz of the phone or Network? My brother has a HTC ONE and he gets 4G in Newcastle?
Well atleast am sure he said he does lol.
Geordie Affy said:
Is that coz of the phone or Network? My brother has a HTC ONE and he gets 4G in Newcastle?
Well atleast am sure he said he does lol.
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Not often I see another geordie on XDA...
It seems to work now. I think I must have had LTE turned off or something.
False alarm. Works in Newcastle!