Xperia on Canadian GSM - no 3G? - XPERIA X1 General

Anyone here from Canada that have seen 3G on their Xperia??? I am not sure what's going on since officially Rogers (FIDO) supports 1900 3G, or at least it worked a year ago on my Nokia E51 which is was only 1900 for North American 3G. Xperia refuses to get any signal when I am switching it to 3G mode.
Anyone?

Sorry, Nokia e51 was only 850 3G. That's explains it....

So you're not getting any 3G action on Rogers/Fido?
That's too bad.
I thought that 3G would work in Canada, and I'm really tempted to buy the X1, based on this
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6165

Ah, now I see some more clarification on the subject:
from the Pocketnow article comments:
"The Xperia X1i does not have the 850 Band.
Users in Canada, where they mostly have the 850 Band, have not been able to use 3G on their Xperia.
In the US, 850 and 1900 Bands overlap with more coverage by 1900 than the 850 Band. So, you will get 1900 Band reception wherever there is 850 Band but not the other way around.
http://www.cellularmap.net/att_850_1900.shtml"

Yea that sucks. But having edge is much better than using gprs...which is what i'm stuck with at the moment.
Will have to see how the phone is when it comes in 1-2 days.

I'm a Fido user as well and waiting on my Xperia (should be here tomorrow!). I've been driving myself nuts by trying to determine whether or not Rogers/Fido users will be able to pickup 3G with the X1i.
I'll definitely contribute my findings to this thread, as hopefully we can keep it going even if there is no 3G on the X1i yet...It would be a dream come true if the X1i was able to have the X1a's firmware flashed to it which could then change the frequency of the UMTS band (or something like that).
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Yea that sucks. But having edge is much better than using gprs...which is what i'm stuck with at the moment.
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NEvolution, are you saying that if we don't pick up a 3G signal with the X1i, then it should fall back to EDGE which is faster than GPRS? Reason I ask is that my HTC Universal now has GPRS only, so at least I would be getting a _small_ upgrade in speed.
Plus with the cost of data in Canada and the quicker rate at which you'll burn through 3G bytes, it's still not very tempting for me just yet.

Yea, that was the case with the Touch Pro when I had it. Since it didn't have 850 3G it was always on EDGE. It never even touched GPRS cause EDGE is everywhere for me.
I would assume it's exactly the same case with the X1i, and any other phone with supported bands.
As for burning through data, I've got 6GBs a month to use so I'm not worried

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As for burning through data, I've got 6GBs a month to use so I'm not worried
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Yea unfortunately I missed my opportunity to grab that option...I have City Fido, and when I called, the CSR said I couldn't just add it on...then later another CSR said that I could have, but now it's expired. 1gb for $30...b0o.

aww boo...I haven't even gotten past 1GB/mth yet. Seems pretty hard to use it up since the max I have is EDGE for now, and that includes tethering and using it as a wifi router too.

well in that case, $30 for 1gb on EDGE might not do me too bad. What are the speeds that you're getting with Rogers on EDGE?

Can't test at the moment as my backup phone only has GPRS.
But when I was using EDGE on my Touch Pro the speeds were pretty decent. Average pages load reasonably fast using Opera.

Roger 3G
Rogers 3G network is down, it has been down for the last month and a bit, they are trying to fix stuff so they turned it of and only the 2G network is working at the moment. It is not your devices.
They are not sure when it will be up again

coolturbog, I think you're right - I haven't had 3G on my Kaiser for at least a month.
Other writers are saying that the X1i completely lacks the 850 band. Although the software (WWE) says it's present, it's not.
I hope that's not true.

Just tested browsing speed using i.dslr.net/tinyspeedtest.html on Opera.
On EDGE: 110 kbps

coolturbog said:
Rogers 3G network is down, it has been down for the last month and a bit, they are trying to fix stuff so they turned it of and only the 2G network is working at the moment. It is not your devices.
They are not sure when it will be up again
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I am getting a strong 3G signal on my Nokia E71 all the time with the descent speed of 800 kbit to 1 Mbit. And it's been like that for the last 4 months. So, your statement about Rogers network being down it's not correct. I've heard some rumors that they are not allowing Windows Mobile devices to utilize 3G speeds completely, but again - I am not sure how legitimate those obligations are. On the other hand - with Rogers monopoly in GSM arena - everything is possible....

ID64 said:
I am getting a strong 3G signal on my Nokia E71 all the time with the descent speed of 800 kbit to 1 Mbit. And it's been like that for the last 4 months. So, your statement about Rogers network being down it's not correct. I've heard some rumors that they are not allowing Windows Mobile devices to utilize 3G speeds completely, but again - I am not sure how legitimate those obligations are. On the other hand - with Rogers monopoly in GSM arena - everything is possible....
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Same here, my E71-2 has had solid 3G reception since I've got it (2 months almost) and no issues with Rogers.

Umm... I'm in Toronto and with Rogers. I never was able to get 3G on my XPERIA X1i, though I took this interesting screenshot for you guys to look at....
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I also tried changing between HSDPA ONLY and HSDPA/HSUPA in the Advanced settings under Start --> Settings --> Connections... (it requires a soft reset with each change), but still all I get is EDGE....
The connection settings are automatic from the "ROGERS" cellular network and the settings confirm it is using the modem "Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)".....
hmmm......

Can any of you try the patch I got from x1a?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450754

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Can any of you try the patch I got from x1a?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450754
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yep; just tried it. didn't do anything for me...
How did you extract it from an X1a? May you please upload the entire X1a ROM's?

I'm using the X1i in SW Ontario and I get perfectly usable 3G coverage, as I've gotten with all the SE products I've used with Rogers (K850, Z750, W760)
Just my two cents

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Telstra HD2 (T9193) Canadian 3G - SCREENSHOTS

I see a lot of talk on the forums about AT&T and the T9193, but there's been very little concrete data about Canadian 3G (Rogers, Bell/Telus).
I've been in Australia for the past month, and there I picked up a T9193, and had it on a pre-paid SIM with Vodafone. Apparently Vodafone's roaming partner in Canada is Rogers, so when I got off the plane in Vancouver I -- a Telus customer -- was able to confirm that Rogers works with this phone on 3G.
When I arrived home -- Victoria -- and got my Telus 3G SIM, it started working immediately.
I don't know much about coverage yet...seems solid in Victoria.
So, the phone works with Rogers and Telus (and therefore Bell), so Canadians should buy away!
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Did it come with 6.5.3 ROM? Im assuming you have already flashed it. How much and where did you buy it while you were there? Did it come with the 16GB card installed already? I know that was alot to ask, but I want to get one. since I have ATT in US or considering switching carriers to Tmo when they launch theirs.
Thanks
^^ +1 on Price
How is the reception?
Spike15 said:
I see a lot of talk on the forums about AT&T and the T9193, but there's been very little concrete data about Canadian 3G (Rogers, Bell/Telus).
I've been in Australia for the past month, and there I picked up a T9193, and had it on a pre-paid SIM with Vodafone. Apparently Vodafone's roaming partner in Canada is Rogers, so when I got off the plane in Vancouver I -- a Telus customer -- was able to confirm that Rogers works with this phone on 3G.
When I arrived home -- Victoria -- and got my Telus 3G SIM, it started working immediately.
I don't know much about coverage yet...seems solid in Victoria.
So, the phone works with Rogers and Telus (and therefore Bell), so Canadians should buy away!
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Rogers:
Telus:
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hey man...stumbled across this, and its info i was lookin for. im with bell and was curious if anyone was runnin the telstra one yet...thanks!
vwauditech said:
Did it come with 6.5.3 ROM? Im assuming you have already flashed it. How much and where did you buy it while you were there? Did it come with the 16GB card installed already? I know that was alot to ask, but I want to get one. since I have ATT in US or considering switching carriers to Tmo when they launch theirs.
Thanks
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I ordered mine online from personal digital, out of Australia for $834USD delivered. It came with a 16GB micro sd in the box. I don't know what ROM it had because it was Telstra branded and I flashed it to a WWE ROM & now Dutty's 1.5. It works great with AT&T, my screen has an H on top for the most part since I'm getting HSDPA. I was considering switching to T-Mobile to get it as well, but now I don't have to, and I have it now.
Telstra HD2 (T9193) on Bell
I bought the Telstra HD2 and i am with Bell and the coverage is excellent. Bell will tell you that it is not compatible, but that is not the case. All towers broadcast 850 and 1900MHz so there is no reduction in coverage with the limitation to 850MHz (and the lower frequency bands have better building penetration anyway). I am very happy with the phone I am getting about 6.5Mbps download and 1.5 upload with Bell in Ottawa when i run through the built-in router feature.
blakemurphy said:
I bought the Telstra HD2 and i am with Bell and the coverage is excellent. Bell will tell you that it is not compatible, but that is not the case. All towers broadcast 850 and 1900MHz so there is no reduction in coverage with the limitation to 850MHz (and the lower frequency bands have better building penetration anyway). I am very happy with the phone I am getting about 6.5Mbps download and 1.5 upload with Bell in Ottawa when i run through the built-in router feature.
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Sorry for making an old topic bump.
I am looking for an HD2 T9193 used on ebay, just to end up my contract with Bell. Now i know i can buy one, i was having the same answers from Bell about compatibility. Thanx alot!
Hi all,
Now i got my T9193, i can tell it works partially on Bell's network. I got the ''3G'' on top, i can make voice calls and SMS but ABSOLUTELY NO DATA. Bell told me they use both frequencies UMTS850 and UMTS1900, 850 for voice and SMS, and 1900 for data. Its strange. Maybe because i roam on Telus towers here, this give me trouble big time since 10 years. I will break my contract with them. I have also tried a Telus SIM card in my Telstra and you know what? Everything works. 3G, 3.5G; HSPA (H on top) and data connect and let me navigate the web. Maybe if i could move my house to roam on a Bell tower instead of a Telus one i could have 3.5G....since Telus and Bell share their towers it gives many glitches like that.
Thank you for reading!
Works well on Bell Mobility!
Hi again, finally, got it to work properly, Bell's emplyees sometimes just don't care about foreing phones...
Jammo said:
Hi again, finally, got it to work properly, Bell's emplyees sometimes just don't care about foreing phones...
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Why would any other carrier be? If it's not their phone, why would they support it? Glad you got it to work.
lude219 said:
If it's not their phone, why would they support it?
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Because even though it's not their phone, and they made no money selling the phone, you're still their customer, and you're still paying them for their wireless services...
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Because even though it's not their phone, and they made no money selling the phone, you're still their customer, and you're still paying them for their wireless services...
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Yea, you're paying for their wireless services, not their undying support for foreign hardware.
It's not their obligation/requirement to bend over backwards and support every phone that comes their way. I mean, hell, most CSRs don't even know how to troubleshoot their own carrier phones, what make you think they have enough exposure/training for foreign phones?
That's like saying that your Internet Service Provider should be held accountable because you werent able to configure your PS3/Xbox360 online. Just because they provide you internet services, doesn't mean it's their job to support hardware that they dont carry.

HSPA+

So according to Phonscoop.com Tmobile offically launched HSPA+. Apparently its in 50 markets.
So whoes got it? What kind of speeds are you getting. I have in my city.
Im getting 2.025mb/s Down and 601kbps/sec up
about 3 to 6mbps because you most likely have a device that can only do 7.2 megabites per second until a hspa+ device is available at the end of this summer. Max theoretical speed should be 21mbps, but thats going to be next year when tmobile lets the 42mbps network go into place.
My speed test says im getting 5007 download and 1583 upload..Not bad. It used to stay around 3500 DL.
The slide will support higher than 7.5 MB correct?
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The way I understand it; the slide will be limited tp 7.2mbps spped. They have to install a hatdware upgrade to the towers to support HSPA+ at 42mbps and that will require a different radio.
I know its not the same; but think of it like sprint. You need a 4G phone (EVO) to get WiMax 4G network service.
If I'm wrong; someone pleae correct me (but politely).
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GeekBrat said:
The way I understand it; the slide will be limited tp 7.2mbps spped. They have to install a hatdware upgrade to the towers to support HSPA+ at 42mbps..
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I genuinely hope you are because I explicitly asked the rep if this phone would support the new HSPA+ and of course the response was "Yes"!
You cannot compare Sprint because they went from 3G to 4G and that required a change in hardware both at the towers and the device. Tmobile HSPA+, from what I researched, only requires hardware upgrades on the towers and firmware updates to the newer 3G devices. I would be highly pissed if this isn't the case!
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The rep told me too that the Slide would support HSPA+ From all the articals though i do not think this is 100% ture. But 7.2mb/s is fast enough for me on a phone.
krolla03 said:
The rep told me too that the Slide would support HSPA+ From all the articals though i do not think this is 100% ture. But 7.2mb/s is fast enough for me on a phone.
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Sounds like we spoke to the same rep!
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Sounds like we spoke to the same rep!
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i also asked tech support from the 1800 number too. They said the slide would support it up to 15mb/sec. We'll have to see. Right now i am happy with my 2+mb/sec speeds
The way I've understood it is that phones like the Slide will see improvements in speed, but since they are not HSPA+ phones, you won't get the full benefit.
The plus side is that you won't need a new phone and you'll see faster speeds. Downside is that people with a new phone will see faster speeds.
sandpaperback said:
The way I've understood it is that phones like the Slide will see improvements in speed, but since they are not HSPA+ phones, you won't get the full benefit.
The plus side is that you won't need a new phone and you'll see faster speeds. Downside is that people with a new phone will see faster speeds.
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I think you are right on this.
But if i get speeds of 5-7mb/s on my phone i will be more then happy. Esp if im already happy with my 2mb+/s speeds.
I really dont think that anyone needs 15mb/s on a phone. With speeds like that the phone then becomes the bottleneck.
The T-Mobile twitter also told me it was an HSPA+ phone...
All I'm saying is that I don't expect the full HSPA+ speed, but I do expect faster than 7.2 Mbs!
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is hspa+ like wimax or lte (4g)
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is hspa+ like wimax or lte (4g)
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In respect to increased speeds, yes but that is it. HSPA+ utilizes the current Tmobile's 3G network and is really fast. Theoretically the top speed is less then the other two but it is significantly cheaper and easier to rollout HSPA+.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA+
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Location: Eden Prairie, MN (41.99900, -87.82200)
All I get in my town is Edge
At home I pretty much barely get any signal so I end up using WIFI alot.
nbetcher said:
Location: Eden Prairie, MN (41.99900, -87.82200)
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bits, not bytes. 8 megabits per second = 1 megabyte per second if I'm not mistaken.
HSPA+ as an extension of HSPA is backward compatible with HSPA. Only HSPA+ devices will see speeds greater than 7.2mb, but you can use a HSPA phone on an HSPA+ network in the same way you can use an edge phone on a 3g network.
All android devices from T-Mobile have an HSPA internal modem, they don't currently sell a phone with an HSPA+ modem and you will not see speeds exceeding 7.2mb on a slide as it has an HSPA modem.
T-mobile is rumored to be announcing their first HSPA+ phone late this summer, suspected to be an HTC vanguard.

Tmobile HSPA+ ("4G") on HD2?

i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
malaeus said:
i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
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You read my mind. I was wondering the same thing. I know that most of the towers where I live are already ready for 4G. So id like to know myself.
malaeus said:
i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
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if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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There is an H for "3.5G" and theres a H for "4G". So H doesnt mean 4G right now on our HD2s.
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if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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In that case, DAMN! I have an EVO 4G!! FTW
H on your HD2 doesn't exploit the full benefits of HSPA+... It is better than 3G but not full board HSPA+. The HD2 will never be fully compatible with HSPA+.But our version of HSPA is still a heck of alot faster than 3G, especially upload speed wise. I believe the first T-Mobile phone to be fully compatible with HSPA+ speeds is the G2.
As I understand it, T-Mobile's "4G" is HSPA+ which is considered by many to be 3.5G in technicalities but it is actually faster than Sprints WiMax 4G technology.
T-Mobile only recently started calling it 4G, I kinda wish they wouldnt because I thought it was cool to have 3G that was better than 4G but I cant say that I blame them for doing it from a marketing standpoint because it will attract attention from uninformed comparison shoppers.
And as I understand it, the HD2 hardware supports the fastest speeds T-Mobile can supply so I'm sure that if there is any tweaking that can be done to the kernel to make Android support it then the Devs will take care of it.
The H in the notification bar actually means HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) or basically 3.5G or Turbo 3G, more info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSPA+ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B) as I'm aware isn't available in a huge amount of places yet, and I'm not even sure if the HD2 supports it? Would appreciate clarification on the either way.
Does anyone know when UK rollout of HSPA+ is happening?
(I can't post links yet, but you know what to do with the wiki links above)
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And as I understand it, the HD2 hardware supports the fastest speeds T-Mobile can supply so I'm sure that if there is any tweaking that can be done to the kernel to make Android support it then the Devs will take care of it.
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This is true. The HD2 can support all the speeds, that t-mobile can supply at the moment. But, 4th generation is different than HSDPA.( 3.5g) although it may be as fast or faster, its a different technology if im not mistaken. I cant remember where i read that.
But yes, if you can see the "H" instead of the 3G, you are taking hold of the HSDPA network speeds. "H" is the new 3G.
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The H in the notification bar actually means HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) or basically 3.5G or Turbo 3G, more info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSPA+ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B) as I'm aware isn't available in a huge amount of places yet, and I'm not even sure if the HD2 supports it? Would appreciate clarification on the either way.
Does anyone know when UK rollout of HSPA+ is happening?
(I can't post links yet, but you know what to do with the wiki links above)
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From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
with one of the sense builds i hit about 5Mbps...
I just did a speed test and it was 11mbps...
I think there needs to be some clarifcation on this. HSPA+ is NOT true 4G. speeds on HSPA+ are potentially faster than 3G or HSDPA but not comparable to true 4G.
LTE 4G is about 64Mb/sec (but can be up to 100Mb/sec)
WiMax enabled 4G is 128Mb/sec.
The HD2 supports NEITHER of these as the hardware does not exist in the phone itself.
i have had it in my area, and i can say it is damn fast! way faster then 3g. you tube videos are almost instant in winmo. i havnt found android to be stable for more than a day before it locks up, so i dont use it much, but in the miri v22 rom the internet is blazingly fast...except up the hill at my girlfriends house, im lucky to get EDGE up there. im in southern california about 30 miles north of LA. i had been wondering what the H was for a few days when i got a text from t-mo telling me that they had just activated 4G in our area, and that some phones (like the HD2) were already compatable. i would quote the text exactly, but i have flashed since then.
Apache0c said:
From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
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This dudes about as right as it gets. HSPA+ rollout will increase the data speeds of all current 3G phones on Tmobile. Not meaning you will get the FULL benefit of HSPA+ though, it'll just be faster than HSDPA. Phones such as the G2 will have the ability to take full advantage of HSPA+ due to additional hardware\software or whatever. Believe me, I'm in the Austin area and you can tell the difference and if you run mobile speedtest weirdly enough your speeds will increase as you run higher test. But, I've gotten 6-8 mbps easily with various test and if I go up to the 2mb and above the speeds starting showing 11 mbps and up, which I don't believe though. Could be though.
Here is info about it right on t-mobiles website http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/#
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This dudes about as right as it gets. HSPA+ rollout will increase the data speeds of all current 3G phones on Tmobile. Not meaning you will get the FULL benefit of HSPA+ though, it'll just be faster than HSDPA. Phones such as the G2 will have the ability to take full advantage of HSPA+ due to additional hardware\software or whatever. Believe me, I'm in the Austin area and you can tell the difference and if you run mobile speedtest weirdly enough your speeds will increase as you run higher test. But, I've gotten 6-8 mbps easily with various test and if I go up to the 2mb and above the speeds starting showing 11 mbps and up, which I don't believe though. Could be though.
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Yeah, he was nowhere close to being correct. NO current tmobile phone except for the G2 is HSPA+ compatible. The HD2 is a HSDPA and the 'H' on your screens means that you are connected to HSDPA which theoretically supports up to 7.2 Mbps as opposed to original 3G which was just 3.6 Mbps. Yes, if you are in an area that is upgraded to HSPA+ you will see an increase in speeds because the infrastructure has been upgraded to support higher speeds, but your phone will NEVER support HSPA+ and will thus never reach speeds above 7.2 Mbps. Which brings me to my next point below .....
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I just did a speed test and it was 11mbps...
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You are a f%$king idiot. Turn off wifi. Your HD2 will not connect at 11 Mbps on a cellular network.
I am not sure if this is on WiFi or regular 3G or H mode.
On my phone the WiFi is turned off, but I am not sure if the ROM has the WiFI build in it .
But it clearly shows on Androit it is lighting fast.
I was curious and then tested it againts a PC, and the HD2 was way faster to execute the tests.
What do you guys think about speed. Is T-Mobile capable of it?
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From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
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Is the upgrade in Southern Cali currently affecting data connections now? I'm having issues with consistent data connections on both Android and Windows Mobile, and the Windows Mobile I just noticed today!
so, can anyone confirm HSPA+ speeds on the hd2? HSDPA speeds are nice (PPP) much better than HSPA/HSUPA. just wondered if i could get even better, more reliable connections.

New SIM for HSPA+ speeds?

I've had my MT4G since release but i'm only getting between 1.5-3mbps down in downtown Pittsburgh, which supposedly has HSPA+. Do I need a new SIM card to get HSPA+ speed? I've been using my SIM i've had for a long time.
clivo360 said:
I've had my MT4G since release but i'm only getting between 1.5-3mbps down in downtown Pittsburgh, which supposedly has HSPA+. Do I need a new SIM card to get HSPA+ speed? I've been using my SIM i've had for a long time.
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I got mine just after release too, and the rep told me I needed a "4G SIM" to get 4G speeds. However, I'm in a HSPA+ area and have never seen over 2 Mpbs down, so I'm in the same boat as you.
You should not need a new SIM. I am using the same SIM I got with my SGH-T915 (old, crappy little flip phone -- free) in 2007; my speeds are fine in my area.
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What did you do with the sim that came with the phone?
Tossed it in a drawer. It's nice to have spares and not buy a new one should I ever need one .
I'm beginning to wonder if T-Mo's "4G" network is all smoke and mirrors.
I've never seen anything approaching 4G speeds on my (or my wife's or co-worker's 4G phones-MT4G and G2) phone in any area of Houston, which was one of the early 4G cities.
I was also told to use the newer SIM that came with the MT4G rather than my 3 year old SIM. Still made no difference in speeds.
Seeing an H?
If you see an H near the signal bars on the notification bar instead of a 3 your on the + network. I've never seen speeds above 3.5 in DC. Usually between 1 and 2.
ecdy said:
If you see an H near the signal bars on the notification bar instead of a 3 your on the + network. I've never seen speeds above 3.5 in DC. Usually between 1 and 2.
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Well, depends on who you ask. If you look at what network you are on (UMTS, HDSPA, HSPA or HSPA+) that is the real indicator of whether or not you are on 3G or 4G.
According to T-Mobile UMTS is actually 3G. I fluctuate between UMTS and HDSPA (or is it HSDPA?). NEVER seen HSPA or HSPA+. The only network indicators I have seen in my status bar are H, E and G, never 3g (even if I am on a 3G network).
I've been a T-Mobile customer for a long time so I had an old SIM for at least 6+ years. When I got my MT4G last month, the phone sometimes would not recognize the old SIM so I went to my local store and told them my issue, the CSR gave me a new SIM free of charge and told me that I needed a new SIM for 4G. So if you have an old SIM card, just visit a local store, they might just give you a new SIM card as they did for me....
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If you are on the stock MySense Android software from HTC and T-Mobile, "H" means 3G or 4G, there is no differentiation.
I'm in a 4G city, but the 4G locations are spotty. In one of them, I've gotten better than 6Mbit download speed. With a six or eight year old SIM card.
I just bought this phone for my wife and have been doing speedtests in random places between this phone and my vibrant. The diff. in speed is very minimal. after numerous speed tests the mytouch 4g is about 100 to 150 kbps faster. Not enough for tmobile to be touting thier 4g network.
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Changing SIM cards doesn't help. I have been using a 6 years old SIM, and switched to the new SIM that came with the phone. Absolutely no difference in speed. On the downside, it messed up all my contacts and my T-Mobile sync doen't work anymore.
You Don't need a new SIM
As long as the old SIM has proper contact and is intact you don't need a new SIM. CSR's are not technical people or engineers for that matter. They feed whatever they told from tech. support. There is not difference in SIM technology since it was first came into being since 1998.
Since GSM is a standard and the underlying technology of T-Mobile for voice communication, SIM cards sold before and now are no different. The requsite info is still in the old SIM card and used for authentication for communication, just the Radio is more advance and different (HSPA+).
Infact there are two radios inside our mobiles that allow simultaneous Voice and Data
1- GSM(which is inclusive of GPRS & EDGE) - Voice
2- 3G(UMTS - WCDMA, HSDPA, HSPA+) - Data
and they both use the same basic authentication provided in those 6+ years old SIM card provided the gold contact are still intact.
yeah im in the same boat, im have teh H sign, but I average only about 1-2m up, and 1 down
ive never gotten remotely close to some of the 3-8 down speeds ive seen people post
The highest I've gone is about 3.85m down and 1.3m up. And thats not even at home. I get maybe 1 down and even less up at the house with a new sim, so I agree it doesn't matter.
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OnePlus One on UK Network Three.

So before I got my OPO I did a lot of reading on which networks it works on etc.
I was going to take the plunge and go for EE as that was the only network with 100% working in the UK.
However there was some temptation to go for 3 (unlimited data) but it wasn't 100% working according to reports, so I took the gamble.
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
The issue lies with the slower connections...
There is no G, there is no E, and no 3G. Anything below H is unavailable.
This doesn't bother me too much as if I don't have H or better I find it tedious to use anyway!
Like I said, just a quick heads up in case you didn't want to take the gamble yourself.
GPRS and Edge are 2g, which the Three network does not support anyway, so regardless of phone you will not get GRPS / Edge on Three.
Three used to let you roam on the Orange network a few years ago where it was possible to get 2g services in certain areas Three had no coverage, however i don't think this is the case anymore now.
Edit: Apparently in some rural areas you can still roam on EE for calls and texts, however not data.
I can also confirm the One Plus works perfectly fine on Three, i get HSPA / HSPA everywhere, and even 4g at work. I imagine its possible to get just 3g too, however i've never had anything lower than HSPA at home or where i work even on my older phones for many years. Its been very rare i've only had 3g on Three.
So far on a 4g speedtest i've had 30mbps download and 22mbps upload, very impressed! :good:
using 16gb OPO with cyanogenmod 11, on 3 network and no problem at all, LTE works perfectly and even 3g no problem at all.
Nxpx said:
using 16gb OPO with cyanogenmod 11, on 3 network and no problem at all, LTE works perfectly and even 3g no problem at all.
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I'm guessing you're in a city where the 4G isn't on the 800mhz band (not supported by OPO apparently)
I have seen my opo working fine on threes network and I get close to 30mbps easily on EE
@Insane nutter, that explains a lot thanks..
My OPO keeps popping up with a roaming message. So I'm assuming if I roam on to another UK network I'm not gonna get charged extra for it?
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InsaneNutter said:
GPRS and Edge are 2g, which the Three network does not support anyway, so regardless of phone you will not get GRPS / Edge on Three.
Three used to let you roam on the Orange network a few years ago where it was possible to get 2g services in certain areas Three had no coverage, however i don't think this is the case anymore now.
Edit: Apparently in some rural areas you can still roam on EE for calls and texts, however not data.
I can also confirm the One Plus works perfectly fine on Three, i get HSPA / HSPA everywhere, and even 4g at work. I imagine its possible to get just 3g too, however i've never had anything lower than HSPA at home or where i work even on my older phones for many years. Its been very rare i've only had 3g on Three.
So far on a 4g speedtest i've had 30mbps download and 22mbps upload, very impressed! :good:
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You mean GPRS or 4G in your first sentence
oscarandjo said:
You mean GPRS or 4G in your first sentence
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I get 4g on Three in my local area despite Three saying 4g has not been enabled here yet on their coverage map.
earni said:
So before I got my OPO I did a lot of reading on which networks it works on etc.
I was going to take the plunge and go for EE as that was the only network with 100% working in the UK.
However there was some temptation to go for 3 (unlimited data) but it wasn't 100% working according to reports, so I took the gamble.
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
The issue lies with the slower connections...
There is no G, there is no E, and no 3G. Anything below H is unavailable.
This doesn't bother me too much as if I don't have H or better I find it tedious to use anyway!
Like I said, just a quick heads up in case you didn't want to take the gamble yourself.
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I have it on the 3 network and it works fine, that said I am not in the countryside...
earni said:
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
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You wonderful man, now I can grab that £15 Unlimited everything, 200 minutes SIM I've been waiting for, :good:
I'm on Three in London and 4g works fine. Do note three also use the 800MHz or Band 20 for 4G too but I think that is in rural areas for the time being.
I'm on Three and 4G in Newcastle doesn't work for me.
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I'm on Three in London and 4g works fine. Do note three also use the 800MHz or Band 20 for 4G too but I think that is in rural areas for the time being.
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How is the Internet speed in London on three? I saw on three till last year and had the worst speeds at my work place near Liverpool Street.. Moved to giffgaff and happy with 3g speeds but tempted to give three a try again just for the sake of 4g.
I can get 3G, H/H+ and 4G on Three. They do have a 3G network but most of the time it will use H/H+ instead as the signal is basically the same and the phone prefers H/H+ due to it being faster.
I haven't used the phone in the country, and I don't think I will be able to anyway
Is it possible to check which towns/cities are covered by specific bands to see if 4G would work in the area?
invinciblervd said:
How is the Internet speed in London on three? I saw on three till last year and had the worst speeds at my work place near Liverpool Street.. Moved to giffgaff and happy with 3g speeds but tempted to give three a try again just for the sake of 4g.
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They are fine mate. Taken this morning in East London. I'm happy with these speeds, have to bare in mind London is very congested so we won't see crazy 50+ speeds until the network further improves but I'm happy with these speeds.
I've had good speeds around Euston, Central, whilst on the tube in signalled areas generally around my area East they are more than fine.
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earni said:
@Insane nutter, that explains a lot thanks..
My OPO keeps popping up with a roaming message. So I'm assuming if I roam on to another UK network I'm not gonna get charged extra for it?
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Enable roaming - you won't get charged any extra while in the UK, and it will allow you to call and text on EE (this connectivity is part of Three's network - they only offer a 3G+ network, so they let you roam on EE where they don't have coverage).
I've tried 4g in Midlands and Yorkshire and it works perfectly well.
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I'm on Three and 4G in Newcastle doesn't work for me.
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Is that coz of the phone or Network? My brother has a HTC ONE and he gets 4G in Newcastle?
Well atleast am sure he said he does lol.
Geordie Affy said:
Is that coz of the phone or Network? My brother has a HTC ONE and he gets 4G in Newcastle?
Well atleast am sure he said he does lol.
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Not often I see another geordie on XDA...
It seems to work now. I think I must have had LTE turned off or something.
False alarm. Works in Newcastle!

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