Did punk.Kaos just tweet a pic showing the froyo kernel???
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I think so.... now I need to stop bouncing around like a little girl...
very nice...
This is very awesome. I am not sure if this helps or resolves the hardware issues he's had, but I hope!
Now the question is based by the date did someone finally leak the kernel or is that fully the work of the developer... If it is the official leak I can't imagine the fun the developers will now be able to have....
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Since the timezone is listed as KST (korea standard time?), my wild guess is that it's from samsung.
We'll probably find out soon...
Perhaps he adapted the Vibrant kernel somehow? Btw, this thread should be in the General forum, not development.
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i read his tweet thread he said its a samsung kernel!! let the fun begin! now... if only we knew if it wasn't a samsung kernel for a CDMA device...
Does this now increase the chances of a 2.3 Gingerbread rom release?
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Does this now increase the chances of a 2.3 Gingerbread rom release?
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i believe so. If I remember correctly it CAN run on the froyo kernel... but i'm not entirely sure... BTW I think this should be in the general section xD
Hmm, is it safe to assume that this "breaking news" much more firmly secures the Fascinate's future development... at least to 2.3?
Assume.. thats what makes an Ass out of you and me. But... i'd bet on it. We'd have had it eventually regardless.
#1 - This only means a complete Froyo build. Everything should work perfectly on the .32 kernel, Froyowise.
#2 - GB is already being worked on with a .35 kernel by birdman. You should all donate to birdman for being better than the entire Samsung development team.
#3 - This belongs in the General section. I know you're all excited, but everyone really needs to start following the forum rules. The Development sections is for development threads, and this does not fit the bill.
#4 - ??????
#5 - Profit.
These posts today have sort of completely confused me.
1 - Now it appears that Froyo is officially and unofficially coming soon.
2 - (and more importantly) - It appears that we will DEFINITELY? at least get an unofficial Gingerbread release from Birdman? I was under the impression that it was just a possibility. I mean, that possibility has been what has made me hesitate to get this phone. Are you 99% sure he's gonna get it working? lol Where did he get a .35 kernel?
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#1 - This only means a complete Froyo build. Everything should work perfectly on the .32 kernel, Froyowise.
#2 - GB is already being worked on with a .35 kernel by birdman. You should all donate to birdman for being better than the entire Samsung development team.
#3 - This belongs in the General section. I know you're all excited, but everyone really needs to start following the forum rules. The Development sections is for development threads, and this does not fit the bill.
#4 - ??????
#5 - Profit.
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That ^^^^^
Can't this thread just be moved... and we continue to talk and ask questions?
Froyo has always been "coming soon", so I'm not sure what your point is.
#2, what do you mean definitely? Birdman is definitely working on it, but unless you can tell the future no one knows how much of a working system he will get running, and when. In case you were not aware, Linux is open source, and so is the Android base, so he could easily get a 2.6.35 kernel from git.kernel.org or the Android source repository, from android.git.kernel.org.
Bottom line, there is some nonzero probability that parties external to Samsung and Verizon will get working unofficial builds of Froyo and Gingerbread (for some value of working) at some time in the future. If that's not something you're comfortable with, you should stick to a company that updates their phones more frequently. But if you'd rather get a phone that has the least security on the OS and has the potential of community developed updates, Samsung is a decent choice.
If you don't need a new phone now, wait a few months for the next generation of phones that were unveiled at CES, IMO. Might as well jump on the dual core/LTE bandwagon if you're hesitating, although we really don't know how battery life is going to be with dual cores and LTE radios. But I would be surprised if it was a huge difference to current smartphones.
My question was more geared at the thought "does this more greatly increase the chances of getting 2.2, 2.3 and so on?"
I know the status of the majority of these roms are that they are being worked on and without proper kernels/code and whatnot, things need to get hacked together. I'm very much a lamen here, so I wanted to know if this potentially leaked kernel changes anything. Are the chances of a quality 2.2 coming out without Samsung and a 2.3 to come out any better now?
I guess they're better... they also get better with time as developers spend more time on it. So does the chance of an official Froyo.
Its a leaked build. You guys will see it when the time is appropriate
For a list of issues that it will assist with, please check my vanilla froyo thread.
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So I've been messing around trying to see what I can get going on the froyo front and I'm running into some problems....
first off, froyo isn't a huge fan of the galaxy s hardware...in AVD, when I create the profile in terms of the captivate hardware and it is buggy even in emulation...this doesn't bode well for actual hardware use. Maybe I'm just really bad at development but I dunno...
So secondly, on the phone itself I thought i'd try to just send over the image to see if the phone would even accept it. While the bootloader seems to be fine and not too worried about accepting an image (the touchwiz 2.1) it doesn't want to accept the buggy froyo.
So i've given it some shots, but its gonna take someone or a group of people who're smarter than me to see why the bootloader isn't really unlocked and why the avd doesn't like the galaxy s hardware specifications
I brought up the possibility of not being able to run Froyo without it being officially released by Samsung first on the Phandroid forums and repeatedly was assured that it'd only be a matter of time until Froyo was released on it.
This is disappointing
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I brought up the possibility of not being able to run Froyo without it being officially released by Samsung first on the Phandroid forums and repeatedly was assured that it'd only be a matter of time until Froyo was released on it.
This is disappointing
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well it should work without it being specifically released (see aria, and every old HTC) but for some reason it's not. I'm probably just doing something wrong... i was a WM dev then an iPhone dev, I'm just learning the whole android development stuff
Read up on behold 2 development on androidforums.com and Eugene_ 373's forum on androidspin.com its very similar in structure to the galaxy s brand of phones. You can't expect Samsung phones and HTC phones to be in anyway simular. They use different file systems and partitions. So it is not a cut and paste job you need to do some heavy hacking.
psychoace said:
Read up on behold 2 development on androidforums.com and Eugene_ 373's forum on androidspin.com its very similar in structure to the galaxy s brand of phones. You can't expect Samsung phones and HTC phones to be in anyway simular. They use different file systems and partitions. So it is not a cut and paste job you need to do some heavy hacking.
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Do you think it can be done? Will we see Froyo before Samsung releases it?
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Do you think it can be done? Will we see Froyo before Samsung releases it?
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I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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Just doing a quick Twitter search for "iphone captivate" yields 80% of the peope tweeting something along the lines of leaving their iPhone 4 for a captivate. Lets hope the Dev's share the same thoughts.
Hey I would just like to know if the Galaxy S has something. Can you go into Apps managment and look for an app called "device managment"? If it's there and at 40+ mb's then that is a recovery rom. It is a duplicate of your starting rom. You can clear it most likely to regain space but after a reboot it will come back. There is another partition on the phone that stores the rom and the phone will run a check on boot up to make sure it's there. If not then it replaces it. It can be hacked out permanently but I know the Galaxy S doesn't really have any issues about storage space.
psychoace said:
I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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Very much apperciated, and the links were helpful on how this all will go down. This greatly changes on if I'll keep my Captivate. I know you should be happy with the phone you have, not the one you'll get, but I don't think I can stomach having a phone that won't be supported come Q4.
If the galaxy phones sell well it will be supported. They do have some phones that have gone from 1.5 to 2.1. Just don't expect any haste out of there crew
The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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true...
I was just messing around with the sdk and whatnot and thought what the hell I have a spare I might as well try
but i guess it's above my head. I'm gonna keep reading up on it though, I'm not the best coder (my expertise lies in c++) but I can surely give it a shot
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The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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Tell that to Cyanogen and Avalaunchmods and Herver who are all making FroYo ROMs for the Evo.
This sucks. I was kinda looking into replacing my 9700 with the Captivate and keeping at&t and Sprint both...
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The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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wrong.
See above post and also thing about the nexus one. 2.2 was released via cyanogen before it was officially released to the public.
And why would you want the official release from Samsung, which would still have the ATT junk and TW3.0, I want STOCK.
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wrong.
See above post and also thing about the nexus one. 2.2 was released via cyanogen before it was officially released to the public.
And why would you want the official release from Samsung, which would still have the ATT junk and TW3.0, I want STOCK.
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Yeah being able to remove the bloatware and using launcher pro and some of the stock Android apps like music is nice but still having to leave any TouchWiz stuff there is annoying. It will be the same on the official release just with 2.2 so I don't see why there wouldn't already be development for a custom ROM for captivate based off the stock Froyo 2.2 straight from Google. In fact this reminds me that I need to keep reading up and playing around so I might be able to do something even though it would only be for future development.
I'm not as concerned about 2.2 as 3.0...
If someone can get 2.2 running on this, then it bodes well for getting 3.0 running on this as well.
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I'm not as concerned about 2.2 as 3.0...
If someone can get 2.2 running on this, then it bodes well for getting 3.0 running on this as well.
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This. I'd love to see Gingerbread on this phone.
This is not a ROM, just an update on CyanogenMod progress for the Galaxy S.
Google Code page: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod7-for-samsung-galaxys/
CyanogenMod forum thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14168-gt-i9000-cm7-work-in-progress/
Copy pasted from Code page:
Code:
What's working:
* MTD
* Radio
* Audio
* GPS
* Wifi
* Bluetooth
* HQ Video PLayback
* internal SD-Card
* external SD-Card
* Light Sensor
* Acceleration Sensor
* Initial Updater-Script for first rollout
What's not working:
* LQ Video Playback
* Camera
* Polling problem on RIL
* 2G/3G toggle
* Compass
* FM-Radio
* TV-Out
* USB sharing of internal SD-Card
Impressive progress.
With this, and the newer official Vibrant kernel source pending to be released, we might have a 100% functioning CM7 on our Vibrants and therefore a completely AOSP Gingerbread. Though Team Whiskey already made an experimental Gingerbread build that mostly works. Either way I'm excited for this progress of bringing AOSP to the Galaxy S and it's variants (especially our variant )
EDIT: Sorry if this isn't fit for the development section, maybe it should be moved to general?
FM-Radio? As far as i know it was decided that the vibrant does not have the hardware for this
Could they still meet the old broken camcorder and black and white previews issues on the CM6 build?
For me, as long as they fix the camera and polling, it is good for me. I don't have a data plan or use youtube very much. On the CMSGSTeam twitter it says coolya added some tweaks to the RIL java file.
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FM-Radio? As far as i know it was decided that the vibrant does not have the hardware for this
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this is the i9k, not vibrant. so the fm doesn't apply to vibrants.
is it true that this roms allows us to use more ram?
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No, the galaxy s has a maximum user available ram at 339 mb I think, provided by a speedmod kernel. The rest of the 512 mb is reserved for the video card, phone, and android system.
Anyone else besides me not see the download link?
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I was just being sarcastic.
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On a serious note, it looks like the big guts of the project(basic functionality) has been done. Excited to see this when it comes to life.
I kind of gave up on any CM roms a while back. I donated to the cause and its been over six months already and nothing. At least nothing close to stable. I'm sticking with Team Whiskey . I love cyanogen on my.G1 but as far as the Vibrant goes I love me some TW. Who knows though, maybe I'll change my mind when it comes out
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A small (hopefully inflammatory) question for ppl that are familiar with the Rom.
Is CM really worth all the fuss/hype?
I read ppl carrying 2 batteries for the sake of running cm6 beta...
And people fawning over the idea over Cm7, which doesn't seem to have full support from the CM devs to Bring it over to the Vibrant.
Is it that good of a rom? Vast improvement over what TW/D4A/Einharjar currently offer us?
(Don't have a phone that it natively supports Cm)
Just want to get some impressions, thanks!
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A small (hopefully inflammatory) question for ppl that are familiar with the Rom.
Is CM really worth all the fuss/hype?
I read ppl carrying 2 batteries for the sake of running cm6 beta...
And people fawning over the idea over Cm7, which doesn't seem to have full support from the CM devs to Bring it over to the Vibrant.
Is it that good of a rom? Vast improvement over what TW/D4A/Einharjar currently offer us?
(Don't have a phone that it natively supports Cm)
Just want to get some impressions, thanks!
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Not really for the Vibrant. They have pretty much abandoned any of the US variant development and are sticking to other vendors and/or the international I-9000 model.
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Not really for the Vibrant. They have pretty much abandoned any of the US variant development and are sticking to other vendors and/or the international I-9000 model.
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what are you guys talking about...
they are working on support for all the SGS variants.....
haven't u guys seen the twitter?.....
jeez
scrizz said:
what are you guys talking about...
they are working on support for all the SGS variants.....
haven't u guys seen the twitter?.....
jeez
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They've been "working on" it for months with basically nothing to show for it. I can put out all the twitter feeds I want, it doesn't mean I have anything useful. "TheDude" or whatever his name was/is that was in charge of the Vibrant development portion of CM hasn't updated his twitter feed in forever in regards to CM for the Vibrant. I'd call that abandoned.
The point is, there is nothing from CM for the US SGS variants available right now that's A) not already been done by everyone else and/or B) stable/reliable/working and/or C) A monster battery hog (due to it being based off the... wait for it... international I-9000 kernel. The last update for the SGS was in October... October! And that's the I-9000 stuff that does us in Vibrant land very little good. So not only was the last release from CM for the SGS more than 3 months ago, it was almost completely useless to the US variants.
So, that's what we're talking about. The fact that CM has released nothing relevant for the Vibrant since it was released. That's not a knock on CM, it's just a simple statement of the facts. CM is largely irrelevant to the Vibrant scene and that void has been filled by other rom chefs, as such, the CM name has simply been coasting on inertia since then. If CM came on the scene with the release of the Vibrant, no one would even know of the group/person because they've released basically nothing.
If you know of a single release for the Vibrant by CM since last July, I'm all ears. But as far as I know, and I'm pretty up to date mind you, there has been exactly zero released for the Vibrant and I'm pretty sure the same holds true for the 3 other US variants as well.
Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this comple
Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this completion and all of its features!
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The reason everyone wants cm is that its aosp plus community extras. Cm started with htc because thats all there was. Most htc phones are similar. The og droid was pure android like the g1 and the n1 both have source and drivers. Vibrant has touchwiz and no source for 2.2 both of those count to why we don't have cm. plus samsung does things different making it hard to build from aosp source. I think we will see it when some form of basic aosp shows its head to the vibrant (nexus s). The nexus s is the single best chance for cm or aosp on the vibrant. Personally I welcome it because many of the touchwiz stuff we want will be in cm and still be aosp based. They already use a similar notification bar like on touchwiz. Pure android is fast, pure android is aosp. We have nothing on vibrant or I9000 that is aosp based and fully working. Everything on the vibrant is based on samsung precompiled software(2.2). Btw cm is known for stability and speed. Dont believe me, try a stock 2.2 g1. Then try cm. its light and day. The g1 is pure android already. No skins or anything. Just like nexus phones. In fact it was the first dev phone. Samsung made everything different to stand out for sales. It worked. With one product line they reach the top. I do wish they would put someone a little more talented on the project or at least more people considering we have maybe the largest number of android variant.
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You are spot on with this....When I got my g1 it was people like cyanogen jesusfreak and the dude making roms. cyanogen has provided us with features and additions that we wish google would have put in place. I always default to cyanogen roms when available. For now though I am loving teamwhiskey so I do not feel like I am missing anything.
I flashed cyanogenmod on a mytouch slide last night and the phone became 2-3 times faster than stock: it was the first time the phone could run a live wallpaper or play angry birds without any lag. So I'm pretty excited for this to be ported to the vibrant.
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OMFG. I haven't seen this much drama since jersy shore....
To the devs: thank you for your hard work and dedication
To the fan boys: keep suporting your devs!
To the haters: educate your self or pound sand.
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Really? Please point me to a download? Because their forums, you know, the place you'd go and expect to find a link, doesn't have one.
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http://www.codeworkx.de/download/cyanogenmod/CM6.2.0-GalaxyS-NIGHTLY.zip
Build date: 01.2011
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http://www.codeworkx.de/download/cyanogenmod/CM6.2.0-GalaxyS-NIGHTLY.zip
Build date: 01.2011
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That's not for the Vibrant. I don't think.
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That's not for the Vibrant. I don't think.
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Works for the most part with eugenes kernel though...closest thing we've got lol
And judging from what was being discussed this was the link in question...my bad.
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Works for the most part with eugenes kernel though...closest thing we've got lol
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But isn't that the point. It's not FULLY functional. And the battery is not stellar either. Anyway. The mods will close this thread soon enough.
Before I get to my point I want to thank all the devs for there hard work that they do in their spare time. They do it for free and hope that some of us donate to make it a little more worth their while.
Maybe it's just me or does it seem like the development thread is slowing down. I've noticed lately that most of the stuff coming in now is ports from other phones and updates for past builds. Theres not alot of new stuff rolling out. EDT seems to stay busy, but what happend to TW? I would have put money on having a stable 2.3 rom out by now to use as a daily driver. We also lost Eugene and leaked samsung builds seem to not be coming out as often.
Is our phone entering the twilight years? Are the dev's losing interest and working on other phones. I've played around with some of the new phones like the atrix and thunderbolt and i'm sure they could be a lil more interesting to build for.
I hope i'm wrong and 5 min. after I post this a new 2.3 rom comes out. It was fun when you flashed a new trigger rom and 1 day later the new bionix came out. This is a really nice phone and you have to really try hard to brick it. It's almost like Samsung designed it to be modded. Hopefully the devs can get inspired again or some new blood comes in to give us something new.
I think we need to be patient. One day there will be a leak for gb and things will fire up again.
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just relax man every phone goes through spells of development. I see you only joined in april so just wait, Whitehawkx had a mostly working gb port working minus the gps and we have CM7 and MIUI support now as well.
Be patient this phone is amazing and im certain development will continue for it for some time.
In the mean time flash a miui beta or try out the EDT roms you wont be disappointed.
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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u guys keep us coming back for more every day and i thank you for that! great job on all this.
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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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Yes, but point being is that we're pretty much at the mercy of Samsung & T-Mobile to release a 2.3.
We will not have a kernel source to play with until it releases for I9K, and even then we'll have issues for a while. And we won't have one with rockin' battery life until we get a leak or source.
But yeah, there really isn't much developing coming from anyone except the guys working on kernels & people like Whitehawk, sonique, and of course Untermench who actaully modify the code. Because there's not much else to do.
Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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I actually have tried to develop a theme to post here but there is so much involved with all the editing and i simply don't have the time. I really wish I did. Trust me I have a great respect for what the dev's do once I started playing around with just a theme. I can only imagine what a rom would take. Plus I can honestly say i'm not skilled enough to put out a quality rom any time soon, if ever. I'm really not complaining about effort or quantity from the devs, i've just noticed lately there seems to be a dull in the dev section. I was just wondering why.
Eugene is back. He said on twitter that he bought a Vibrant. You can see evidence, his newest Ginger Clone version has already had 4 updates.
Sure a lot of the development is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms, but I'd say we're easily WAY more active than we used to be. We've now got plenty of choices of roms, kernels, and themes. We've also got new people joining the Vibe development scene. There's an experimental Gingerbread Sense that's just started testing. We are now officially supported by the MIUI team. I see new things happening every day. Development doesn't always happen overnight, but I believe we've still got lots of good things look forward to.
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Haha yeah I remember that too. But ROMs every week != good. Most of them are ports and aren't stable.
I really wish we could have AOSP roms so we could have TRUE development going on. None of this hack and patch stuff.
regP said:
I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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They want CM lol (as do I)
Why do we keep having these threads. I rooted my phone late last year. I have been more then satisfied. I'm just glad to have a faster better phone than what I had originally. Just have some damn patience.
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
masterotaku said:
Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
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Well said. It's just like what happened when I had the N1, people started to complain because the roms were so stable there weren't many updates being released.
regP said:
I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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i dont know either...
2.3 probably WILL be faster than 2.2 (duh) but besides the speed, we have everything else.
All thats going to be different is when you go into settings about it will say 2.3 gingerbread
instead of 2.2 or 2.2.1
the rest is good.
im on miui, and i switch between cm7 and miui once in a while
im never going back to 2.2.1
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What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Well said. Someone just asked on one of my 2.2.1 threads why it was so quiet and my only thought was because everything works. Here it is everything has been fixed there should be nothing left to discuss here flash and enjoy.
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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That's the point for me. I stopped updating at KA6. Sure KA7 came out not long after, but why? I had been updating daily/weekly until then, always fighting some bug or flaw. With KA6, I flashed the ODIN version, removed bloatware myself, added the round battery icon, power off menu, and that was *it*. More recently I've updated the Kernel to Overstock 2.x and voodoo FS, but I'm not even sure why I need voodoo. Can't tell a difference in the real speed of the phone.
I didn't take the phone apart to add FFC like so many did (and who also never use it in most cases), so I don't need improved support for that... and themes, well... I guess there is that, not much going on in KA6 themes -- but that doesn't affect the use of the phone at all.
KA6 for me has been fast, stable, and by far the best on battery life of any I've touched yet. There are few if any programs out there that require 2.3 or higher, and until that is the case, why change?
The atmosphere is totally different than it was last fall, when the rest of the world was going 2.2 and Vibrant was stuck on 2.1. At that time, there were an increasing number of programs that simply would not work on Eclair - plus Froyo had been promised as an update. Now we have everything Samsung promised, and really if you're running a lightly modded ROM, it *is* bug-free.
So... until I am forced to consider 2.3, I'm sticking with KA6.. It is nice after years of constantly flashing upgrades on the HTC Vogue (wm6), then the G1, then flashing the MT3G constantly, then constantly flashing the Vibrant, to actually pick up my phone and have it work the same way it did yesterday.
I had my atrix since the release and i'm now starting to question if i should keep it. Right now i'm running 2.3.4 and the battery is horrible. I browse other phone forums and i see that they have multiple roms different roms with most multiple different developers and have made actual developments and the biggest development we have is barely functional. It seems that most of the developments on the atrix are theme wise from the same devs, no disrespect to devs working on the atrix because i know they have worked hard. And i heard rumors that the atrix community doesn't have much developers to begin with, so the question is should i move on to a different phone?
you need to hold your horses buddy.
a phone has been donated to CM team.work should start soon.
check out the Atrix section on rootzwiki forum, AOSP is being built.
we have CWM - check the dev section
we just got an over clock - check the dev thread
Please do not ask for ETA's.
mrshowtime said:
I had my atrix since the release and i'm now starting to question if i should keep it. Right now i'm running 2.3.4 and the battery is horrible. I browse other phone forums and i see that they have multiple roms different roms with most multiple different developers and have made actual developments and the biggest development we have is barely functional. It seems that most of the developments on the atrix are theme wise from the same devs, no disrespect to devs working on the atrix because i know they have worked hard. And i heard rumors that the atrix community doesn't have much developers to begin with, so the question is should i move on to a different phone?
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We had a locked bootloader until very recently. This is why there aren't many ROMs yet. Gingerbread is set for a July (hopefully) release. With the Gingerbread kernel source, ROM developers will have a lot more to work with. At the moment, there's only 1.2.6 (old 2.2.1 Froyo) source available.
Be patient! Of course, if you're loaded with cash, you can go buy additional/replacement phones. For now, the Atrix is arguably the best piece of hardware on AT&T's network.
Also we only saw the bootloader being unlocked recently...
My atrix bores me
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lesonal said:
My atrix bores me
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your mom bores me
Hi, first of all i'm really thankful to all atrix dev team n all dev members on xda :good:
they r doing very good job working hard to make people happy we r really appreciate that.. Thanks to all dev :good:
Atrix stable ICs Jellybean port plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This request has been made on both the ICS and the JB versions. The answer remains the same. Until the 2.6.39.4 kernel is finished being dev'd, all roms are as stable as they can get. There are 3 kernels on the table for the more advanced android versions. 1. The ICS leak kernel. 2. The Galaxy R kernel. 3. The Xoom kernel. The ICS leak kernel is what you see the most of. Galaxy R kernel is more well known than the Xoom kernel dev. Galaxy R kernel dev may be observed in android dev under the ICS/JB kernel thread. The Xoom kernel is a quiet project that is mentioned in either the cm 9 or cm 10 rom that poped up a few days ago. The thread mentions "that kernel" in the thread title, and the user has toyota in their s/n.
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On a lighter(?) note:
I was expecting to see many replies tearing OP a new one. What happened to you Atrix 4G General?
Saw the title and got excited.
What the hell is this? Ban this guy.
I don't even understand what the op planned on accomplishing here.
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I don't even understand what the op planned on accomplishing here.
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I think it was a request for stable ICS or JB port, like somehow requesting it is going to make it happen faster because in the months (14?) since ICS was released, developers have been standing idly by waiting for this one specific request to build a stable ICS or JB ROM.
As for why there wasn't some kind of massive burn, it's kinda like poking a bee hive when all the bees have moved on to a new nest. Oh well, anything to keep this section of the forums alive I guess.
I think the OP was hoping for a good flaming. Trolls gonna troll.
are any of the ICS/JB roms for the Atrix ready for daily usage yet?
Depends on your needs. If you want strictly phone functions and don't care about anything else, then yes.
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lehjr said:
Depends on your needs. If you want strictly phone functions and don't care about anything else, then yes.
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But then why would you feel the need to upgrade?
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But then why would you feel the need to upgrade?
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Because some people are stuck with the device and want to at least have the chance to try ICS or JB themselves, especially since ICS was officially released over a year ago. For some people the basic functionality of ICS or JB is worth losing camera/ camcorder, and hardware acceleration, or at least until they find they need those for something. For me it was fun to try, and a bit depressing to have to revert back to GB, but the loss of camera/camcorder functionality was too much and the things I wanted ICS for in the first place just didn't work.