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I just have one question. Why does it take so long to charge from 10% to full? It takes my incredible about 2 hours and 15 minutes to charge, my moto droid 1 hour.
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Doesn't belong in the Dev. thread. As for your question.... your comparing apples to oranges. Mine takes about as long... so I don't think it's you. Probably the way the phone was designed.
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Doesn't belong in the Dev. thread. As for your question.... your comparing apples to oranges. Mine takes about as long... so I don't think it's you. Probably the way the phone was designed.
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agreed on both points, 2 hours seems pretty reasonable to charge IMO
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br125 said:
agreed on both points, 2 hours seems pretty reasonable to charge IMO
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People forget that back in the day it used to take 4 - 6 hours to charge your device, and it'd drain after about 3..... spoiled brats! LOL
Sorry I didnt mean to put the thread in the wrong place but this section seems more tech than others. Yea I figured it wasn't just my phone, I just wondering why HTC phones took longer to charge. Thanks for the help
The way Li-Ion batters are charged is not as simple as alkaline or NiMH - cell balancing, over voltage, under voltage, temp, authentication, etc.
You wouldn't want this to happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCZ4ayioCU
sounds like you are the type of guy who would complain about having to put premium fuel in his ferrari. one droid and inc are 2 totally different pieces of hardware. if you had reliable data to support a claim like htc phones take longer to charge then i might believe it, but u dont so dont make that claim. i have a blackberry storm (business phone) and inc (personal) i literally almost never use the BB and if i do its for calls lasting less than 10 mins. Yea it charges faster than my inc and yea the battery lasts longer, but i do way more on the inc and that takes battery and charge away. when i used the BB for everything before i got the inc, it was the same situation. so does that mean bb take a long time to charge or the battery sucks? no
UGH...
socalracer said:
sounds like you are the type of guy who would complain about having to put premium fuel in his ferrari. one droid and inc are 2 totally different pieces of hardware. if you had reliable data to support a claim like htc phones take longer to charge then i might believe it, but u dont so dont make that claim. i have a blackberry storm (business phone) and inc (personal) i literally almost never use the BB and if i do its for calls lasting less than 10 mins. Yea it charges faster than my inc and yea the battery lasts longer, but i do way more on the inc and that takes battery and charge away. when i used the BB for everything before i got the inc, it was the same situation. so does that mean bb take a long time to charge or the battery sucks? no
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Was that necessary? Yes he asked a question in the wrong forum, yes it was a poorly worded/thought out question but seriously? Just made yourself look like a big douche...
Just sayin'
The way you use the phone has nothing to do with how long it takes to charge. Could be different voltages for the two phones. The lower the voltage, usually the longer it takes to charge. You'd have to look at your adapters and see what the output voltage is on the Inc. vs Moto. Might answer your questions. Otherwise, it's probably how the trickle charge works differently on the two phones....
**DO NOT USE A HIGHER VOLTAGE CHARGER** !!!!
Also if you have a TON of stuff running on your phone, it could be a lot less "idle" than you think while it's charging.
I think the trick is to charge your phone at the perfect times - like while you are driving to work (especially if it's a long drive) or while asleep. Who cares how long it takes while you are asleep??
Droppin' some science!
This is just technical information for anyone that may be interested, I don't know if it will exactly "help", but it should answer the question of the post (also please keep in mind that these are two phones from two different manufacturers so even if they are running the same OS, the way they manage and consume power would be different regardless).
Motorola Droid (Stock)
Lithium-Ion Battery
1400 mAh
3.7 volts (Output)
HTC Incredible (Stock)
Lithium-Ion Battery
1300 mAh
4.2 volts (Output)
For tips on improving the battery life of an Incredible, there is a highly detailed forum post at AndroidForums.com
i wish my incredible would charge in 2 hours at 10%. My DI takes 4 hours to charge. very sad
moosc said:
i wish my incredible would charge in 2 hours at 10%. My DI takes 4 hours to charge. very sad
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Using the stock wall charger?? Don't think mine's ever taken 4 hours
Yep use the stock wall charger and data cable.
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Yep use the stock wall charger and data cable.
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You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
aibrean said:
You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
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well its the cable that comes in the box.
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You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
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Huh?
The data cable is what comes in the box with the AC head (which has no cable but a USB connector).
I use the same data cable connected to a number of different computers, notebooks and netbook and charge all the time.
When connected to a computer, it is slower to charge, but it charges just fine.
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Huh?
The data cable is what comes in the box with the AC head (which has no cable but a USB connector).
I use the same data cable connected to a number of different computers, notebooks and netbook and charge all the time.
When connected to a computer, it is slower to charge, but it charges just fine.
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I think he means that he's using the cable with the AC head, and it takes 4 hours (as in, he's not using some off-brand charger from Radioshack, or something like that).
My DI definitely takes longer than 2 hours as well, Not sure the exact %'s, but at home today had it plugged in from when I woke up until I left for work (about 2 hours) and it seemed like it went roughly from 10% to 80% only.
dreamersipaq said:
Was that necessary? Yes he asked a question in the wrong forum, yes it was a poorly worded/thought out question but seriously? Just made yourself look like a big douche...
**DO NOT USE A HIGHER VOLTAGE CHARGER** !!!!
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All kinds of misinformation on this thread. Any charger that complies with USB standards is going to be 5V, no more no less, whether it has a microUSB tail on it, no tail, or a rat tail.
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You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
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Huh?When connected to a computer, it is slower to charge, but it charges just fine.
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Exactly. PC/LAptop USB power is just as good as wall-power, it's just a lower amperage, something like 500mA to the AC head's 1A/1000mA. More amps means faster charge.
I believe our DI batteries are 3-cell, judging by the four terminals on the battery: 1 (+)power, 2 (+)power, 3 (+)power, 4 (-)common ground. I don't know what sort of battery the Moto Droid has but it's a motorola, so it's gonna fail soon anyway (sorry, I'm just sayin). I know the G1/Dream battery was 3-terminal, and when some went to a Seidio 2600mAh extended battery (twice as many cells), they had to charge it 8 hours when they first got it.
Obviously, turning the phone off to reduce the load on the battery, using the wall charger, and making sure you're not short-charging all the time will reduce charge times overall. Judging by the battery life I've gotten so far and what a monster this phone is compared to my G1s, I'm more than happy to wait an extra hour with the phone off, that's what Google Voice is for
I just got a samsung vibrant and i got 2 problems one is the screen when i get a message or something like that when the screen is locked it stays on i got to turn it off can some one help me fix that thanks
2 problem is the battery does not last me a full day and i got nothing on it i need a bigger battery asap or i got to return the phone my mytouch lasted longer than thins one please some one help me find a way to get it to last longer or a bigger battery thanks
I am wishing for an extended battery too. Currently, I'm using one of those Duracell pocket lithium ion USB batteries.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0321688
Having another device and cable to carry around works, but is a pain...
my battery easily lasts a day. I can get through a full 9 hour day of work and still have 78% battery left. Not to mention I left my phone off the charger last night, got up 10 hours later and the battery only went down 3%
You sure you dont have any programs open? Also I don't use a task manager if that means anything to u
onyx550 said:
I just got a samsung vibrant and i got 2 problems one is the screen when i get a message or something like that when the screen is locked it stays on i got to turn it off can some one help me fix that thanks
2 problem is the battery does not last me a full day and i got nothing on it i need a bigger battery asap or i got to return the phone my mytouch lasted longer than thins one please some one help me find a way to get it to last longer or a bigger battery thanks
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I bought this, it took about 2 weeks to get to me,(but for 12.99 for 2 batteries and a wall charger) as it was coming from hongkong, but got it yesterday, and its great, 2 extra batteries, and a wall charger so now i dont even need to charge my phone, i let the battery die so i can train them right, and just pop in a fully charged one when needed. the charger even has a usb hookup like the original wall charger that came with it, so really you could charge an extra battery, plus the one in the phone through the usb cable. The batteries are the same as the stock one that came with the phone. I wish i would have done this with my G1, instead of spending 90 bucks on 1 extra battery that didnt even have an external charger.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-BATTERY-dock...20599053354?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_2384wt_1137
mikey98277 said:
I bought this, it took about 2 weeks to get to me,(but for 12.99 for 2 batteries and a wall charger) as it was coming from hongkong, but got it yesterday, and its great, 2 extra batteries, and a wall charger so now i dont even need to charge my phone, i let the battery die so i can train them right, and just pop in a fully charged one when needed. the charger even has a usb hookup like the original wall charger that came with it, so really you could charge an extra battery, plus the one in the phone through the usb cable. The batteries are the same as the stock one that came with the phone. I wish i would have done this with my G1, instead of spending 90 bucks on 1 extra battery that didnt even have an external charger.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-BATTERY-dock...20599053354?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_2384wt_1137
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So, are the batteries of the same quality as the original?
Samsung Vibrant Extended Battery?
IM looking for a extended battery or a way to get my battery to last all day so that is what i need thanks
chaoscentral said:
my battery easily lasts a day. I can get through a full 9 hour day of work and still have 78% battery left. Not to mention I left my phone off the charger last night, got up 10 hours later and the battery only went down 3%
You sure you dont have any programs open? Also I don't use a task manager if that means anything to u
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That would work, but I use the phone most of the day. It is not idle.
I take my phone off the charger at 5am @ 100%
Text most of the day at work with a 30 minute phone call at lunch...
Some moderate browsing and gaming...
I get home around 530pm, and "usually" have around 40%...
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So, are the batteries of the same quality as the original?
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They are Samsung batteries, they look exactly like the one that came with my phone( down to the details written on the battery, only different thing is the date which was from 6/10 where the one with my phone was 7/10 and the s/n number), so I would say yes it is the same quality.
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So, are the batteries of the same quality as the original?
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i bought the same set of batteries and charger. i'm still going through the charging/cycling phases with these new batteries. i'm not sure if they are on par with the stock batteries but i'll soon find out after a few more charges.
I am still doing that also, but I have to say that the wall charger is worth the money so even if the batteries don't work out, at least I have this awesome dual wall charger!
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mikey98277 said:
I am still doing that also, but I have to say that the wall charger is worth the money so even if the batteries don't work out, at least I have this awesome dual wall charger!
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Yeah, I am more than likely going to buy one, seems handy. It helps that it is dirt cheap.
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I am still doing that also, but I have to say that the wall charger is worth the money so even if the batteries don't work out, at least I have this awesome dual wall charger!
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haha yeah i was about to say the same thing. charges pretty fast and has a cool blue and red-pink colored charger indicator
so far. the batteries are not on par with the stock battery. i work eight hours shifts. my battery runs down to 35-40 pct with moderate usage i.e. facebook, youtube, casual browsing by the time i leave work.
these ebay batteries drain all the way down to 5 pct by the time i leave work and on the eigth hour. i'm on my third charge cycle. hopefully i'll see some improvement this week.
here's what i have running in the background on my phone at work the whole day:
aquarium live wallpaper
facebook widget
twitter widget
beautiful widgets clock
engadget widget
tikl push to talk app.
each widget is set to update every two hours
I was looking at this:
http : //cgi . ebay . com/2x-Battery-USB-AC-Car-Charger-zu-Samsung-I9000-Galaxy-S_W0QQitemZ180543282222QQcategoryZ20336QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DMRU-15032%252BUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D20%26pmod%3D160468248236%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6318287668313258463#ht_2099wt_1137
But now, I'm considering this:
mugenpoweronline . com/product_info.php?products_id=790
My only gripe is the price tag though.
Peace
S II
I got the same type of deal on ebay, 2 batteries & the charger (did the same thing with my MT3G as well), it's always nice having extra batteries, and I can use the charger when I'm traveling (it will also charge up my PSP). Now just need to get a mini to micro USB adapter and I have one less cable to carry around for charging - although I recently got an external drive for data storage, so I guess I will need a second cable if I want to tether my phone and use the external drive.
The batteries are not as good as stock and one seems to hold a charge better than the other (have to mark them so I remember which is which - these are generic one without the Samsung label), but as I train them via charge, use until dead, swap, charge, this should at least max them out a bit. The ones I had for my MT3G actually outperformed the original battery that came with so was hoping for the same. But considering how cheap these are, I could even pick up a couple more.
ryan562 said:
i bought the same set of batteries and charger. i'm still going through the charging/cycling phases with these new batteries. i'm not sure if they are on par with the stock batteries but i'll soon find out after a few more charges.
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Those batteries from Hong Kong are not an original Samsung battery, they are just compatibles.
The lasting power of a li-on battery depends not just on the mAh, also the circuit inside the battery counts much of it.
The circuit takes care of the special sleep modes and energy saving features of a battery.
Samsung has its own energy saving codes that can not be put into a common compatible batteries.
This is why an original one is much more expensive than a compatible ones.
Extended battery for the vibrant, lasts twice as long and great door
Check this out: Moretalktime's feedback is 100% and the door is soft rubberized--better than stock IMO. It cradles well in your hand in a very comfortable position and lasts over twice as long.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...89815&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_999wt_1139
Re: Batteries not lasting all day
I'd like to throw in an observation on this thread. My battery life is quite good on my Vibrant. Lasts all day easily but there are a couple of things to take notice of. First, I do not use any task killers or such, but I do check if there are any running programs with the built in task manager and stop them once I'm through with them. I've found that Voice Search and Web Access continue to run even after I've closed or backed out of them. Thus the need for use of task manager. But here's what I really found out. I've always charged my phone using the wall adapter with USB cable plugged into it. Never had a problem with battery life. Then for some reason, I decided to start using the USB cable attached to my computer. It would charge as normal and each morning it showed 100% charged. But after about 1 week of using the USB cable from the PC to charge the phone, I started having the horrible battery issues that I've read about. Extremely fast discharge. Leave at 8am and have like 50% use at noon. Crazy. So I started using the wall charger again and the phone has returned to its original state, easily lasting all day. Just a heads up for some of you guys having battery problems. No idea why this has happened but I've confirmed it. Maybe the Power Management thing on the USB ports on the PC?
I just saw this thread after a search on Google. I already posted elsewhere, but this looks like it might be the battery some of you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10055333&postcount=80
If nothing else, they also sell a 1600mAh battery which is 100mAh larger than the stock battery and still fits unter the stock cover. Good Luck
-Adam
To full chagne the battery, need more than 10 hours. Tried different ROMs, Batteries, changers, cables. the same result.
It looks like a hardware issue...... but....
when I used a DC power supplier(5.2V, limit to 1A) and plug in the cable, it appears the DC current is 0.5A, and after 10 second, fall down to 0.1A. at least, in the first 10secend the hardware worked all right...
Do you use the original OEM charger ?
Have you tried a different charger ?
How old is your Note ? Have you tested a different battery too ?
azzledazzle said:
Do you use the original OEM charger ?
Have you tried a different charger ?
How old is your Note ? Have you tested a different battery too ?
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Tried different ROMs, Batteries, changers, cables. the same result.
I was quite surprised when I switched to the Note from the Dell Steak. My old phone would charge much quicker. The Note takes about six hours to fully charge I'd say. As a result I plug it in pretty much whenever I can.
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Yeah, Mine can take around 5+ hours too if im charging it from <5%
Bear in mind that it is a bigger than normal battery, 2500mah.
But if it is like you say, Taking 10+hours to charge, Id get it looked at, Maybe send it off for repair or something.
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As a result I plug it in pretty much whenever I can.
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Isn't it bad to constantly charge your phone even when it still has battery?
I heard it reduces the battery's life span.
I dont believe it is, I often charge mine even when its got plenty of juice left.
It may reduce life span, But the battery will live longer than the time you will own the phone so i guess it dont matter
No one can help. feel bad.
I saw sevral links saying same problem, but no solutions... poor us...
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Isn't it bad to constantly charge your phone even when it still has battery?
I heard it reduces the battery's life span.
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From what I've read, it's what you're supposed to do with the current generation of batteries. But then there's so much crap floating about about batteries it gets hard to figure out what is reliable info.
And this is with the original charger? If it's not an official charger, there's a big chance the phone will draw only what's usually allowed across USB. Which isn't much... In fact, with USB, the power draw of GPS/screen on/games can make your phone discharge even with the charger on. So try the official charger, on AC power.
Same problem...
I have the same problem.
At the beginning, about 3 months ago, my SGN works fine, battery are charged to 100% in 2 hours maximum.
I'm buy the phone from a Samsung Store, all accessories are originals. Today I send my phone to the technical assistance and there's no problem with battery or the charger.
My problem stars about 3 weeks, with an alert about different voltages after a full charge, the problem was solved only removing the battery and waiting an hour. At the technical assistance, the answer was to charge the phone when it's shutdown.
I already try that, format the cache, rebuild the system, everything using the ICS LQ3 from Baltic.
leandroaps said:
I have the same problem.
At the beginning, about 3 months ago, my SGN works fine, battery are charged to 100% in 2 hours maximum.
I'm buy the phone from a Samsung Store, all accessories are originals. Today I send my phone to the technical assistance and there's no problem with battery or the charger.
My problem stars about 3 weeks, with an alert about different voltages after a full charge, the problem was solved only removing the battery and waiting an hour. At the technical assistance, the answer was to charge the phone when it's shutdown.
I already try that, format the cache, rebuild the system, everything using the ICS LQ3 from Baltic.
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Is the problme solved after remove the battery for 1 hour?
paddyzou, the problem with the wrongs voltages, yes, my steps to solve this:
- Full discharge
- Shutdown of the phone
- Remove the battery for 1 hour
- Full charge with the phone hang out
The problem with the low charge I think that was okay, it's seen to be happen in random times, I just flash another LQ3(France) version of ICS yesterday and seems to be working fine.
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paddyzou, the problem with the wrongs voltages, yes, my steps to solve this:
- Full discharge
- Shutdown of the phone
- Remove the battery for 1 hour
- Full charge with the phone hang out
The problem with the low charge I think that was okay, it's seen to be happen in random times, I just flash another LQ3(France) version of ICS yesterday and seems to be working fine.
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appreciate you so much. Hope it works.
Mine takes around 2 hrs to fully charge the battery. I use supplied samsung charger.
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From what I've read, it's what you're supposed to do with the current generation of batteries. But then there's so much crap floating about about batteries it gets hard to figure out what is reliable info.
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This is correct, a chemical reaction takes place while the battery is discharging and is reversed when charging(changing). The chemistry of the battery changes how they hold energy. The Lithium ion batteries in our phones can be charged any time, they have no "memory" characteristics like previous rechargeable batteries (NiCd).
OP, it sounds like your charger is going. My stock HTC charger (2-3 years old) now only charges at about 40% the speed, which means the phone will discharge while its plugged in. I recommend grabbing one of those tiny square usb chargers (1A 5v, not 0.5A). I got one for like $6, as long as its 1A it will be quick.
I somewhat recently got an AT&T Galaxy S4 and it was working great, until I went to charge it. It seems that most of the time, when I plug my phone in to charge at night, it stops charging after about 10 minutes. I am already asleep by this time so when I wake up, I'll have like 40% battery left.
I have tried different chargers, cables, sockets, just not a new battery.
Any tips to try before buying a new battery to test? Also, what's a good slim battery for a general user?
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I somewhat recently got an AT&T Galaxy S4 and it was working great, until I went to charge it. It seems that most of the time, when I plug my phone in to charge at night, it stops charging after about 10 minutes. I am already asleep by this time so when I wake up, I'll have like 40% battery left.
I have tried different chargers, cables, sockets, just not a new battery.
Any tips to try before buying a new battery to test? Also, what's a good slim battery for a general user?
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Personally I think you should call it in to get it replaced. See my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349098&highlight=battery
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Personally I think you should call it in to get it replaced. See my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349098&highlight=battery
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I was hoping I wouldn't have to switch it. Oh well, as long as it works. Thanks!
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I was hoping I wouldn't have to switch it. Oh well, as long as it works. Thanks!
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Yeah... well i mean it may not be the same issue I had but it's better safe than sorry, you know? The warranty is still valid, so might as well take advantage of it.
But in your case, at least it's charging and you're maintaining some sort of usable phone. Mine was dead for 2 whole days.
I would go ahead and call today because they ship Next Business Day. Meaning you'd get it tomorrow (if it's not too late). I had to wait 2 days because of the 4th of July.
Hey guys, yesterday i noticed something strange: it took 3+ hours to charge my S5 from 8% to 100%. I remember that it used to take around 2 hours at the very maximum from 0% to 100%. Then i remembered that my cable with which I'm charging is not the original one (it got cut long ago) but the charger itself is the original. Is something wrong with my battery? Is the charger bad? Should i search for an OEM usb cable? I don't mind it if it charges for longer as i charge it at night but still, this got me a bit worried that it can degrade my battery overall by keeping it hot for longer than needed. Thanks for any answers.
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Hey guys, yesterday i noticed something strange: it took 3+ hours to charge my S5 from 8% to 100%. I remember that it used to take around 2 hours at the very maximum from 0% to 100%. Then i remembered that my cable with which I'm charging is not the original one (it got cut long ago) but the charger itself is the original. Is something wrong with my battery? Is the charger bad? Should i search for an OEM usb cable? I don't mind it if it charges for longer as i charge it at night but still, this got me a bit worried that it can degrade my battery overall by keeping it hot for longer than needed. Thanks for any answers.
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My phone gets hot when I use a non OEM cord as well. But its never hurt my phone. I've been doing it for probably a year now. As for the longer charge time is it suddenly taking longer with this cord or is it taking longer because you are now using the cord?
godkingofcanada said:
My phone gets hot when I use a non OEM cord as well. But its never hurt my phone. I've been doing it for probably a year now. As for the longer charge time is it suddenly taking longer with this cord or is it taking longer because you are now using the cord?
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Well not sure as i mostly charge it at night. But my phone's battery life is normal while using it (atleast for now), just curious why it takes so long to charge.
Different cords have different capabilities depending how they were made. There's even some that only give power and no data transfer. Samsung makes fast charge technology for their devices. Other cords may or may not support it.
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Different cords have different capabilities depending how they were made. There's even some that only give power and no data transfer. Samsung makes fast charge technology for their devices. Other cords may or may not support it.
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Hm, I always thought that fast charging is inside the charger itself and not the cord. Might get an official Samsung one then. Thanks for the info mate
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Hm, I always thought that fast charging is inside the charger itself and not the cord. Might get an official Samsung one then. Thanks for the info mate
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No problem. They look like this.
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No problem. They look like this.
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It comes with the USB cord as well. And I'm pretty sure fast charge tech is both the handset and the charger itself. I read the charger is 1.5x faster then a normal one even if its not going to a device with fast charge and 2x faster if it is. I didn't mean to quote myself either. Lol