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1st one who killed the HD2 ;-(

I just HSPL my new T-Mobile 2.08 US HD2.
Worked soooo smooth. Thanks for that. Now the tricky part, I did not read detailed enough that the rom I flashed was a 1.66 based one.
now the HD2 is dead, no powerup, bootloader mode, reset or chargeing led.
Any way to safe it or back to t-mobile?
Thanks Guys

=( omg.... i was impatient too... I was downlaoding all these roms but remembered i didnt install the new HSPL thing.. and then i read the posts -_- sigh.. sorry man

I am so sorry man. Your best bet is to hope you can find a station where they'll work some factory reset magic on there...
Yeah. Sorry to hear that. I wish the SPL program would warn the user or refuse to install if it detected an old 1.66.

No brother
YWell Brother u and me both have to play the old hood wink on tmobile and play the it just died face so we can get a new one. Fortunatly we have 14 days if you kept your receipt, to take it back and nag saying it just shut of for no reason. Its hell of bricked, even HTC would have to completely take it apart to fix it, so no trace of anything would ever come back. the bad thing is their sold out everywhere till Tuesday or Wednesday. But ill wait its a bad ass phone. woooo! where do you live dude? in vegas?

I have read that you can microwave it for a few seconds and that kills it stone dead. No way they can tell what you flashed.
This is a very extreme method and an absolute LAST RESORT!!!!

pablo11 said:
I have read that you can microwave it for a few seconds and that kills it stone dead. No way they can tell what you flashed.
This is a very extreme method and an absolute LAST RESORT!!!!
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That's.. insane.

madman_nyc said:
I just HSPL my new T-Mobile 2.08 US HD2.
Worked soooo smooth. Thanks for that. Now the tricky part, I did not read detailed enough that the rom I flashed was a 1.66 based one.
now the HD2 is dead, no powerup, bootloader mode, reset or chargeing led.
Any way to safe it or back to t-mobile?
Thanks Guys
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remove your battery for 3 minutes and put it again and try ti lunch boot loader

Have you tried the SD card flash method.
You need to copy the original Tmob ROM file to your blank SD card, rename it to leoimg.nbh (i Think), and then try start in bootloader.

madman_nyc said:
I just HSPL my new T-Mobile 2.08 US HD2.
Worked soooo smooth. Thanks for that. Now the tricky part, I did not read detailed enough that the rom I flashed was a 1.66 based one.
now the HD2 is dead, no powerup, bootloader mode, reset or chargeing led.
Any way to safe it or back to t-mobile?
Thanks Guys
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Which hspl did you flash and which rom?

the new one for 1024 T-Mobile 2.08.
Thanks for all replies,
For the Microvawe version, if you smash it with a hammer, has the same effect. Go Green.
No kidding, I ask for a repair solution not a Brick it more.
Bootloader is not working at all, so no SD way as well. And a rom based on 1.66. Smart as I am, I deleted the file.
Like I said, HSPL was great. Was still working after that.

madman_nyc said:
For the Microvawe version, if you smash it with a hammer, has the same effect. Go Green.
No kidding, I ask for a repair solution not a Brick it more.
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I laughed my ass off so hard at that comment!

So I got it exchanged, I did the Hard spl and its fine so far. Still working.
Dont want to brick it again,
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?

(post removed, wrong thread)

This is why I'm choosing to wait a little bit before jumping in and flashing my TMOUS HD2. I don't have the 'cajones' to be a guinea pig! I'm waiting until everything plays out and the process is tried and proven safe.
For now I'm enjoying the stock TMOUS Rom, and applying tweaks here and there. I'm running into bugs and annoyances here and there, but don't feel a strong urge to flash roms just yet...especially when so many others are having issues!

Yeah, when it comes to the software side of this phone, I just take it all in with the regular rom and see what I REALLY want out of it as far as options and whatnot. THEN I get to the rom goodies after a lot of review and feedback.
Hardware I'll dissect the guts if I have to anyday though.

FloatHeavy said:
Yeah, when it comes to the software side of this phone, I just take it all in with the regular rom and see what I REALLY want out of it as far as options and whatnot. THEN I get to the rom goodies after a lot of review and feedback.
Hardware I'll dissect the guts if I have to anyday though.
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Yes, but still no answer for me ;-(
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?

madman_nyc said:
Yes, but still no answer for me ;-(
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?
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I think you'd be much better off browsing all the thread titles in the ROM Development section looking for a rom that is [GER] and [2.08+]/TMOUS based
As long as it's been taken off a TMOUS device, it will work on your TMOUS device

madman_nyc said:
the new one for 1024 T-Mobile 2.08.
Thanks for all replies,
For the Microvawe version, if you smash it with a hammer, has the same effect. Go Green.
No kidding, I ask for a repair solution not a Brick it more.
Bootloader is not working at all, so no SD way as well. And a rom based on 1.66. Smart as I am, I deleted the file.
Like I said, HSPL was great. Was still working after that.
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he he. I know it's hilarious. As I said, absolutely last resort if you are taking it back for warranty cos if they find any spl other than factory one your warranty is void straight off the bat. Nice to see you got a replacement without problems.
I just read that advice from another post here on the forum and it is way extreme!!!
As posted above - any rom based on tmous original roms should work. Good luck

madman_nyc said:
So I got it exchanged, I did the Hard spl and its fine so far. Still working.
Dont want to brick it again,
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?
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YOU might use BSB Tweaks and choose manila language in the menu.
I bet it is based on the tool that downloads the needed manila files from the internet.
Try searching for the tool here on xda or use BSB tweak (but there is a solution to get it fully working german!)

I've just bricked mine. Don't make the same mistake!!!!

I flashed laurentius29 rom to my tmous leo.
Result - expensive paperweight.
Already exchanged it in tmob store telling them it just died. I've had it for just two days.
Seriously! Don't attempt to flash non-tmous roms to your tmous phones.
I thought they are fos saying you can brick your phone doing that.
I thought I knew what I was doing with my quite long winmo history. (Samsung i730, Kaiser, Rafael and Leo just recently)

do you have hspl installed?

Doesn't matter as non-TMOUS ROMs won't work on a TMOUS HD2

gees.....better buy openline HTC HD2...

Just to make sure:
Flashing a TMOUS ROM to a NON-TMOUS device won't brick your device?

With Hspl you should be able to recover... ROMS dont touch the bootloader. And without Hspl you wouldnt be able to flash..

It is not the fault of his ROM but your choice of a ROM not compatible. I think his base is 1.72 or 1.66 and with drivers from this same build. I would ask him to be sure.
Make sure you flash a ROM with 2.10 base and you should be ok.
Sorry to hear about your device but at least you were lucky enough to be in the US and they changed it out quickly for you.

Hi Stank0,
I'm very sorry to read this and will make an anouncement immidiatly that the rom isn't compatible with the T-Mob US model.
Sorry to ask you as you got damage enough but can you tell me the procedure you followed flashing the rom?
Thank you.
Stank0 said:
I flashed laurentius29 rom to my tmous leo.
Result - expensive paperweight.
Already exchanged it in tmob store telling them it just died. I've had it for just two days.
Seriously! Don't attempt to flash non-tmous roms to your tmous phones.
I thought they are fos saying you can brick your phone doing that.
I thought I knew what I was doing with my quite long winmo history. (Samsung i730, Kaiser, Rafael and Leo just recently)
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Indeed that's true far as I know but I realy like to know how Stank0 bricked it to avoid this in future.
snipey said:
With Hspl you should be able to recover... ROMS dont touch the bootloader. And without Hspl you wouldnt be able to flash..
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After I flashed HSPL2, I tried a few ROMs. 2x NRG's and Kumar's. They all worked OK but I wanted to try yours bcz I used to have it for quite a while on my Rafael. (before I switched 2 NRG for some reason I don't remember).
I always flash over old flash without going through all the "necessary" steps and it almost always worked good. I went through flashing stock first only when something went wrong. (very rarely)
So I did the same thing with your ROM flashing it over NRG's. (Via USB)
Obviously, my poor tmous LEO couldn't handle all that "Ultimate Power" and after the flash was succesfully finished, it never started up.
No light, no sound.
First I thought I'll just get into a bootloader and reflash.
But after I found out that I can't get even bootloader up, I realized I'm pretty much screwed.
The phone didn't react to ANYTHING.
When I plugged it up to my laptop, it tried to install new driver for it but of course unsuccessfully.
I've had quite a hard time to find a store with HD2 in stock. Apparently they sell better than fresh rolls.
Oh by the way Laurentius26, I don't blame you for it at all. It was my fault not listening what wise people say. From now on, if it doesn't say "TMOUS COMPATIBILE", I'm not touching it.
And that what I recommend others to do too.
Unless you want to live dangerously and have a nice but quite expensive paperweight.
Laurentius26 said:
Hi Stank0,
I'm very sorry to read this and will make an anouncement immidiatly that the rom isn't compatible with the T-Mob US model.
Sorry to ask you as you got damage enough but can you tell me the procedure you followed flashing the rom?
Thank you.
Indeed that's true far as I know but I realy like to know how Stank0 bricked it to avoid this in future.
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Sorry to hear about your device but at least you were lucky enough to be in the US and they changed it out quickly for you
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Sorry too
but if i`m not wrong the brand new TMOUS Leo costs only 199.99 $ in th US vs 600 in Europ

Yes TMOUS Leo costs 199.99 $ in th US with 2 years contract!!!
HTC HD2 in England is for free with contract!!!
So....

yeah it does. With 2 yrs contract. I paid $450 + tax however. No contract.
gf7800 said:
Sorry too
but if i`m not wrong the brand new TMOUS Leo costs only 199.99 $ in th US vs 600 in Europ
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So let me get this straight, you flash hspl on your device to flash custom ROMs. If you brick a phone, is it completely useless forever in eternity? (besides being a paperweight) Is there anyway to recover it at all? At all, at all?

Hi Stank0,
Thanks for letting me know.
Flashing a rom shouldn't brick your device like that, even if the flash went all ok or not it should always be possible
to reflash (recover) as mentioned earlier that flashing a rom doesn't touch the bootloader.
Dit you try to take out the battery for half an hour and then try to get in bootloader?
Anyway I'm very sorry your device is bricked .
To make sure I've updated my rom threads with a warning to avoid this in future.
Stank0 said:
After I flashed HSPL2, I tried a few ROMs. 2x NRG's and Kumar's. They all worked OK but I wanted to try yours bcz I used to have it for quite a while on my Rafael. (before I switched 2 NRG for some reason I don't remember).
I always flash over old flash without going through all the "necessary" steps and it almost always worked good. I went through flashing stock first only when something went wrong. (very rarely)
So I did the same thing with your ROM flashing it over NRG's. (Via USB)
Obviously, my poor tmous LEO couldn't handle all that "Ultimate Power" and after the flash was succesfully finished, it never started up.
No light, no sound.
First I thought I'll just get into a bootloader and reflash.
But after I found out that I can't get even bootloader up, I realized I'm pretty much screwed.
The phone didn't react to ANYTHING.
When I plugged it up to my laptop, it tried to install new driver for it but of course unsuccessfully.
I've had quite a hard time to find a store with HD2 in stock. Apparently they sell better than fresh rolls.
Oh by the way Laurentius26, I don't blame you for it at all. It was my fault not listening what wise people say. From now on, if it doesn't say "TMOUS COMPATIBILE", I'm not touching it.
And that what I recommend others to do too.
Unless you want to live dangerously and have a nice but quite expensive paperweight.
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this is bad, im sorry for your loss
though flashing a rom doesnt screw up the bootloader

Problem is T-Mob US model has different NAND.
XDA opened two section as well as the hardware is different.
* HD2 ROM Development
* T-Mob USA HD2 ROM Development
I have no T-Mob USA model and I'm not 100% sure if the device is bricked because
of flashing the rom so it's better to take precautionary measures to avoid this in future.
bbezja1 said:
this is bad, im sorry for your loss
though flashing a rom doesnt screw up the bootloader
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It sounds more like coincidence.
I can't imagine Leo includes bootleader in his rom, so it shouldn't have effected the spl at all.

Thanks Fards,
Indeed there's no SPL (bootloader) in the rom so if a user flashed HSPL first and then the rom it doesn't touch the bootloader and it should be always possible to get in bootmodus after a bad flash and reflash the rom.
It worried and made me doubt for 2 days but this makes no sense the device is bricked because of flashing the rom it must be coinsidence.
There are enough stickies how to flash a rom and I've included rom flash instructions in my rom thread so I'm going to remove the warning.
@Stank0, I feel sorry your device is bricked but I hope you understand my decission.
Grtz Leo
fards said:
It sounds more like coincidence.
I can't imagine Leo includes bootleader in his rom, so it shouldn't have effected the spl at all.
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lemonspeakers said:
So let me get this straight, you flash hspl on your device to flash custom ROMs. If you brick a phone, is it completely useless forever in eternity? (besides being a paperweight) Is there anyway to recover it at all? At all, at all?
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re-bump. can anyone answer this?

I agree with everyone else. It wasn't the flash-it was the flasher. He didn't follow the basics. Wrong rom, flashed repeatedly while bypassing vital steps. It wasn't bricked-he got jumpy. He shouldn't flash if he can't follow simple tutorials and stickies.

Return My Phone

So my phones screen is messed up. The letters a and l on the keyboard dont register unless I press the screen really HARD. That area of the screen is unresponsive. I tired different ROMS but its a problem with the touch panel
I called T-Mobile and they said I should take it to a store. Apparently I have 2 year warranty . There some slight scratches at the bottom of my phone so they may think I dropped it
So how can I put it back to stock ROM via recovery and default Radio?
Thanks

Connect handset to PC/Lappy using USB. Then run the T-Mobile RUU from
STICKY [ROM] Official HTC Hero RUU ROM + Radio Links
Done.
..... And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE POST IN GENERAL OR Q&A NEXT TIME. THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS.

ermacwins said:
So my phones screen is messed up. The letters a and l on the keyboard dont register unless I press the screen really HARD. That area of the screen is unresponsive. I tired different ROMS but its a problem with the touch panel
I called T-Mobile and they said I should take it to a store. Apparently I have 2 year warranty . There some slight scratches at the bottom of my phone so they may think I dropped it
So how can I put it back to stock ROM via recovery and default Radio?
Thanks
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not an issue with the touch, in my experience anyways ... I've had the same issue, it lasted for quite some time ... then i started using swype .. and hte issue went away, the issue also doesnt' reside in the vanilla keyboard stock by android ... you can switch to this with ... longclick on input box ... input method .. android keyboard ... see if that fixes it at all ..
as soon as i stopepd using SEnSE UI roms, my issue was fixed ....
try that before taking it in .... i hated it too, and was almost ready to take it in, then used vanilla rom, too good for life.

ddotpatel said:
Connect handset to PC/Lappy using USB. Then run the T-Mobile RUU from
STICKY [ROM] Official HTC Hero RUU ROM + Radio Links
Done.
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Would I not lose Root? Lets say they just replace the screen then im stuck
bulltronStudios: tried it but not good enough and I prefer the htc keyboard

ermacwins said:
Would I not lose Root? Lets say they just replace the screen then im stuck
bulltronStudios: tried it but not good enough and I prefer the htc keyboard
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It does not need to be the newest one, just original.
Choose one which you can root.

just flash the system.img,boot.img and recovery.img from the ruu you should be ok then

Had the same issue. Called HTC. They told me it was a verry comon problem. Got a new screen within 5 days. Good service!
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk

doesnt even need to be official rom. mine went back with vanillaeclair rom installed and fully rooted. Had done a nandroid backup beforehand. first thing they do regardless is flash a rom onto it so they dont care.

Yeah, just send them with whatever ROM you currently have. Doesn't really matter. Its not as if they'll fine you if they found out because now your problem is the the touchscreen, not the software.

ramsky they may say it voids warranty so I have to pay
Is there not an update.zip available for defualt rom?

Just use RUU for the version that goes with you bought

there is. but it will keep the recovery, so they can found out that you had root.
when you are using a RUU, your phone will be like you just Bought it.

liorweitz said:
there is. but it will keep the recovery, so they can found out that you had root.
when you are using a RUU, your phone will be like you just Bought it.
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ok thanks, will do

does that ruu flash the corresponding radio with it?

[Q] Sending it back -- warranty

Hello all! I'm so sorry if you feel like you've been seeing this topic everywhere and I have too, except for one thing.. I haven't gotten one, clear answer to it.
My phone had been acting horribly the past month: freezing, then frozen after battery pull at the stick together sign, then loading up again, then freezing. It would only work if I could be quick enough to turn Sense off. I love Sense though. and for the few months before that I'd had it, it had been working perfectly with Kumar's Premium ROM. Now, I have already received a new("like new") HD2 from T-Mobile because it was still covered under warranty, HOWEVER, since I had flashed many custom ROMs, I had to take HSPL off. I did this by flashing the stock TMobile upgrade (2.13) from their website from my SD card.
My question is: Is there anything else I have to make sure to take off the phone other than HSPL and custom ROM? When I go to the Bootloader, it shows that there is no HSPL and only SPL 1.42something. Is there anything else that can cause me to lose the warranty once they get the phone itself, because from what the lady told me, if they determine that the phone isn't under warranty, they can charge a pretty hefty amount.

if bootloader really shows spl
1.42something
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then you don't have a tmous, you have
a regular hd2.
you need to double check that before you go any further.

Now this is gonna be hilarious if he got a refurb unit from T-mo, that somebody had previously flashed a euro ROM/spl on!

lol, and of course tmo would say 'oh no, that couldnt happen, its YOUR fault', hehe

samsamuel said:
if bootloader really shows spl
then you don't have a tmous, you have
a regular hd2.
you need to double check that before you go any further.
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Sorry for the confusion..now I feel dumb. But no, the SPL is: 2.10.0000
lol.

it should be fine then.
if you wanna double check, download the 2.13 rom from tmous website and flash that via usb.

samsamuel said:
it should be fine then.
if you wanna double check, download the 2.13 rom from tmous website and flash that via usb.
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Is that necessary if I did that through SD card first? I'm only being a pain on this post because the phone won't even stay on long enough for me to do/check anything so I wanted to ask if there was anything else. I think I might just send it back and see what happens.!
Thank you all

no, not necessary. the 2.10.0000 is the important part. it will be fine.

Thank you very much for the help

Case closed and now so is this thread

[Q] New android but dont want to root

Hi to anybody who might read this ,i have already searched and only found one post and they went completely off topic
I want to know if there is maybe some way of installing an android rom onto my htc wildfire without rooting (rooting will void the warranty and the phone is like a few days old)
I want to get a different mod because the one i currently have is the stock one and it sucks i have always admired the people of xda for the creativity and knowledge in the roms so please help

Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
You need to root in order to be able to install any custom rom.
You can always unroot, if you need.

u have my full attention
Alex_GP said:
Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
You need to root in order to be able to install any custom rom.
You can always unroot, if you need.
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well if rooting is realy soooooooooooooooo important then could u guide me through this plz and what are the dangers of rooting(bricking etc)

well if you tell us what hboot version you have we might be able to tell you if you can or not by software.
turn off your phone.
press volume down and power on.
release volume down.
then write here what hboot version it is.
but i tell you, if hboot version are 1.01.000x you can't root it by software, and you'll need to get it done by someone that owns an xtc clip (piece of hardware).
But i dont quite get youre statement that there is only one thread about this subject and it goes off topic fast.
I think there are several threads about both rooting, hboot versions and much more. And all stuff that you need to know are actually in there.

Switch off your phone:
Press the volume down button + power.
The Phone will start.
Let us know what you see
Rom 2.2+ <-?
Hboot 1.+ <-?
s-on / s-off <-?
If your rom is 2.2(+/up) you will have the Hboot 1.(+/up) so there is no way atm to root it.
i have the same problem, we have 2 wait
(yes, threre is NO WAY at the moment)
If you have rom 2.1 (and lower) /hboot 0.8 (or something lower than 1.) its possible to root it to use a custom rom.
How to root it / use a custom rom:
Sorry in these Forum are tons of guides

DenKofAnd said:
well if you tell us what hboot version you have we might be able to tell you if you can or not by software.
turn off your phone.
press volume down and power on.
release volume down.
then write here what hboot version it is.
but i tell you, if hboot version are 1.01.000x you can't root it by software, and you'll need to get it done by someone that owns an xtc clip (piece of hardware).
But i dont quite get youre statement that there is only one thread about this subject and it goes off topic fast.
I think there are several threads about both rooting, hboot versions and much more. And all stuff that you need to know are actually in there.
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hboot ver is 0.80.0008
and s-on
rom version 2.1

tech freak said:
hboot ver is 0.80.0008
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so its rootable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
use this guide... its pinned on the top of this site

thanx oh and could u tell me what are the dangers of rooting (bricking)

Can we brick it? yes we can
There isnt a guide that makes the rooting / flashing 100% safe

thx alot im checking the guide out now . . . . lol the questions were funny
ill post an update later on thx

tech freak said:
thanx oh and could u tell me what are the dangers of rooting (bricking)
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if done properly.. the chances of bricking are very less. i ve rooted my phone over 3 times now.
I had a dead row in the lcd so had to get it replaced under warrenty. Installed a RUU and got it under warrenty.
Then rooted again.
The replaced display was dull, not bright enough, installed the RUU and got it replaced again under warrenty.
Then rooted again,
Broke my led. ( was trying the strobe mode in a high brightness led app.. he he)
Installed the RUU and got the led replaced.
Then, Rooted again .
Now i have a feeling the camera is not functioning rite. i see white patches here and there in the images, and the image is not crisp. i can see pixels.. i gues its time for me to RUU again.. he he..

rahulkrathod said:
Now i have a feeling the camera is not functioning rite. i see white patches here and there in the images, and the image is not crisp. i can see pixels.. i gues its time for me to RUU again.. he he..
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Just how long you've been using your Wildfire? That's a lot of issues.
Been using mine for 5 months and no problems so far except some scratches on the body due to me dropping it violently. Time to RU.. oh wait.

doomed151 said:
Just how long you've been using your Wildfire? That's a lot of issues.
Been using mine for 5 months and no problems so far except some scratches on the body due to me dropping it violently. Time to RU.. oh wait.
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its been 7 months now. Problem with the dead row was unfortunate, but led was my mistake. i knew high brightness strobe would break it. still i went for it.
and camera, perhaps the service guys mishandled it while fixing the led? or perhaps its just dust inside, thought its not prominently visible.

tech freak said:
thanx oh and could u tell me what are the dangers of rooting (bricking)
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just remember:
do attempt to flash when your battery is very low
and do not eject the battery while flashing

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