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Hello,
I am planing on the Atrix for august when I will be in the US,
And I wonder- do you think the Bootloader will be cracked untill then?
Or Motorola Unlock it/ update to- 2.4?
Thank You,
Daniel
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
Diviance said:
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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I wanted to know as well...
Sigh, August is way to long...
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
Not really pessimistic, just neutral. We can make guesses but there is no way to be certain the loader will be broken or whether motorola will give up and unsign it. They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
danielel said:
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
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Well thats sucks.
2.3 doesn't bring any important changes, and it does take time to make the update.
waste of time..
well it just means that if the devs here won't get to bootloader hacked the milestone story will be back.
oFUNGUSo said:
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
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Ya what happened to them, that thread was booming with new posts every day and randomly it just stopped
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Diviance said:
They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
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Who cares about 2.3? 2.4 is what everyone's after...
GPU-accelerated UI and Browser
Built-in Gtalk video chat support
Multi-language browser support
And as Matias Duarte implied, all the Honeycomb design changes will be in 2.4
So who cares about 2.3? Not me. If the Atrix isn't released unsigned in Canada, and unless the XDA hacks it, I will be going for the Nexus S, and sticking with the Nexus line for the next few years...
Hard to speak about 2.4, as we don't have much of a clue about it. But loading custom kernels and the like is really making me re-think the decision about buying the Atrix...
Not to be a downer in this thread, but I wouldn't hold your breath for the unlocked bootloader, but it is nice that some fresh minds are going at it.
With that said, the devs for the D2 and DX have been able to set the users up with a good amount of customization.
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oh man I will be in Canada for 4 days...I hoped maybe it would be unlocked there.
well I guess I'll just have to check it later...
thank you every one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992326
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?!
HE GOT A WAY TO PASS THE BOOTLOADER!!!!
HOPE HE WILL PUBLISH A WAY TO PASS IT SOON!!!
Its still being tested but DA G has had some success. No one else has posted anything else. I think the reason the bootloader thread has been quiet is because there in an irc were they can talk easier. We prob wont hear anythkng new until they have made some progress. I'm just glad we have the sbf file. That's a big step. Ill be happy if we can get motoblur removed.
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You can find the information here:
http://nenolod.net/~nenolod/sholes-keyleak-explained.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/2...t-to-be-unlocked-keys-for-sbf-files-released/
I hear all the talk about unlocked bootloaders which would allow us to install CM7 on our DX's. What exactly makes CM7 the clear and cut best ROM out for unlocked phones? Features? Speed? Battery Life?
I'm just curious, and I'm extremely excited.
VICTORY IS OURS!! haha im excited too
PERFECT ************* TIMING FOR ME! Just ordered a replacement Droid X, coming in tomorrow.
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Avelnan said:
PERFECT ************* TIMING FOR ME! Just ordered a replacement Droid X, coming in tomorrow.
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LOL I just ordered a replacement Droid X as well, mine has a screen defect. I don't think you'll get yours until Tuesday though, they don't send out overnight stuff on Sundays.
chucklesjh said:
LOL I just ordered a replacement Droid X as well, mine has a screen defect. I don't think you'll get yours until Tuesday though, they don't send out overnight stuff on Sundays.
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Actually ordered it on Friday, they did say it would arrive on Tuesday, but as I was tracking my shipping on FedEx, it said estimated to arrive on Monday.
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wad3g said:
What exactly makes CM7 the clear and cut best ROM out for unlocked phones? Features? Speed? Battery Life?
I'm just curious, and I'm extremely excited.
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All of the above.
I may be wrong, but I believe CM7 is a Gingerbread rom.
I'm still excited as ****.
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Me too! Wow!
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This is awesome news. When I had my droid I used to run sapphire and CM. I haven't really gotten into the ROM scene with my X but I am excited to see what comes out of this leak.
So how long is going to take before we see some custom kernels/cm7??
ram130 said:
So how long is going to take before we see some custom kernels/cm7??
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Likely 6-10 days before we start seeing usable builds, 0.1 builds, etc
kailynleto said:
Likely 6-10 days before we start seeing usable builds, 0.1 builds, etc
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Thanks,....the wait is on!
kailynleto said:
Likely 6-10 days before we start seeing usable builds, 0.1 builds, etc
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Wow, that is awesome. I don't even really know what to expect out of this, but a DX with a unlocked bootloader has to be one of the best phones on the market right now, correct?
TBolt isn't worth upgrading to IMO. I'm waiting until August-December, and a unlocked DX makes the wait that much easier.
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Wow, that is awesome. I don't even really know what to expect out of this, but a DX with a unlocked bootloader has to be one of the best phones on the market right now, correct?
TBolt isn't worth upgrading to IMO. I'm waiting until August-December, and a unlocked DX makes the wait that much easier.
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Yeah it will be a beast. I am already getting Quadrant scores ~2200 on a regular basis with Liberty 1.5/Stagefright, and I am willing to bet that, with custom kernels in the game now, we can get over 3000, as everything can be streamlined
omg i wish i could freeze myself and wake up in 10 days!!!
ram130 said:
Thanks,....the wait is on!
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"@nenolod: for only the gazillionth time now, the @freemymoto people are doing the work now. bug them instead..."
That attitude leads me to believe he just wanted to get something started. Guess nobody will know for sure until thoroughly tested, but my hopes aren't too high. People claim that Moto sending a C&D order proves, to an extent, the legitimacy of this key... however, like with the key, all we have is his word. Where's the Moto letter? It's all based purely on the assumption that he's not a total jackass. I do hope it's real, though.. will refrain from holding my breath for now.
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ram130 said:
So how long is going to take before we see some custom kernels/cm7??
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It may be a week or so minimum. Follow @freemymoto on twitter for updates. They will be working on this project, but give them time; these things need to be thoroughly tested by the devs before it is released to the public.
raziel36 said:
"@nenolod: for only the gazillionth time now, the @freemymoto people are doing the work now. bug them instead..."
That attitude leads me to believe he just wanted to get something started. Guess nobody will know for sure until thoroughly tested, but my hopes aren't too high. People claim that Moto sending a C&D order proves, to an extent, the legitimacy of this key... however, like with the key, all we have is his word. Where's the Moto letter? It's all based purely on the assumption that he's not a total jackass. I do hope it's real, though.. will refrain from holding my breath for now.
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It may be a week or so minimum. Follow @freemymoto on twitter for updates. They will be working on this project, but give them time; these things need to be thoroughly tested by the devs before it is released to the public.
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Thanks for the insight. I will try not to.. i really hope he doesn't. I can only hope for the best right now.
Great news! I can't wait to see this beast that is the DX unlocked.
I really hope developers take their time and release a solid ROM instead of rushing to it just for the sake of releasing the " first " unlocked ROM for bragging rights.
I hope there is nothing sacrificed as well. My biggest gripe is that of missing features for speed. I am willing to wait it out
My only question (and don't get me wrong, I'm excited our phones will be getting unlocked) is about re-locking our phones. If we have to return them for any kind of repair/replacement issue, and VZ sees the bootloader was unlocked, I have a feeling they would say we voided our warranties. Right now with the locked bootloader all we have to worry about is sbf'ing/madderstcok'ing our phones back to stock. Does anyone know if the unlocking process is going to have a re-locking process?
sfreemanoh said:
My only question (and don't get me wrong, I'm excited our phones will be getting unlocked) is about re-locking our phones. If we have to return them for any kind of repair/replacement issue, and VZ sees the bootloader was unlocked, I have a feeling they would say we voided our warranties. Right now with the locked bootloader all we have to worry about is sbf'ing/madderstcok'ing our phones back to stock. Does anyone know if the unlocking process is going to have a re-locking process?
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This process won't involve unlocking the bootloader, it'll consist of flashing an .sbf file using the current security keys which replaces stock recovery with clockworkmod and replaces the stock keys with our own keys. Then, we can create new kernels and roms that use our own keys. Thus, the security stays intact and we can still do whatever we want. Flashing back to stock will simply require flashing one of the leaked .sbf files (.340 for instance) that has been altered to include the new keys.
In short, we don't break down the door, we just change the lock so we can have access whenever we want.
I read on other forum...on Xperia X10 they finnaly got it
The bootloader has been bypassed using the kexec/miniloader method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12578251&postcount=849
[bootloader bypass guide and report thread][alfa release only!!!!][april 1rst]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12637163#post12637163
can anyone try the same method?
I'm hesitant of anything posted on April 1st, regardless of source! But I hope this works for the Atrix.
knigitz said:
I'm hesitant of anything posted on April 1st, regardless of source! But I hope this works for the Atrix.
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This is confirmed working guys.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDh4psrbb3c
YEAH, its true, many people have try...see the post reply after day 1 and video
soo, please, I think this can break the bootloader of our atrix, but I don't have acknolegement to do that
I assume Atrix has different type of bootloader than SE X10a
May try after final exam
ytwytw said:
I assume Atrix has different type of bootloader than SE X10a
May try after final exam
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You can't just run their script and make it work that way, their exploit would have to be ported to the Atrix.
Hope this works, may I remind any dev that the is a huge bounty for this.
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Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
+1. Would bring much more positive attention to the thread.
RacecarBMW said:
Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
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jeremyritzmann said:
+1. Would bring much more positive attention to the thread.
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And all the naysayers and impatient fools too, unfortunately. I just read this also, if it could be ported it may be a promising lead. I'm off to do a bit more digging
WOOOOOOO! thanx for posting this, hopefully this works, let's crack this bootloader and make these Atrix haters mad!
I consider that sugestion
also I will try use that method to crash bootloder....I have some help from my teacher xD...
RacecarBMW said:
Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
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G1-8701 said:
WOOOOOOO! thanx for posting this, hopefully this works, let's crack this bootloader and make these Atrix haters mad!
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theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
DAGr8 said:
fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on you
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Lol you might wanna correct that...
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ceo.mtcl said:
Lol you might wanna correct that...
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Maybe he means... "fool me once, shame on (pause) you. You fool me you can't get fooled again." - GW Bush
Sorry hat to clutter this thread. Anyway, anyone got any reading material on this exploit done on the X10? I want to learn more about it.
Any Dev's care to comment on this?
DAGr8 said:
theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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there are Atrix haters as well as moto haters, i've debated and well as read comments from quite a few of them, but people that have the wrong attitude and give up so easily on the phone ain't helping at all(or people that never had the phone to begin with), but i understand some people have their needs or wants in a phone and the atrix may not be it for them, but don't bash it just because you may not like it, never even owned it but have negative comments about it, have a defective device or whatever, and no i'm not saying that YOU have done any of this, but i'm tired of seeing it.....
but back to what this topic is actually about, hopefully this topic catches the devs attention
sooo.. ignoring the differences in architecture between omap and tegra, were the two bootloaders secured in the same fashion?> signed? signed and locked? locked?
DAGr8 said:
theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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Even it takes 3 or 4 months it still gives us hope. I thought this whole signed bootloader mess was gonna be completely impossible! So I'm thrilled to hear this!
Nothing is impossible
Doesn't look like this is catching the eye of many people though, most likely from the 4/4 date.
If the Defy can do it, why can't we? It has a locked bootloader too. I bet I sound pretty stupid because there is something I'm missing, but oh well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
A quick glance says that they're using update.zip files to clobber /system, so they're not touching the bootloader. So this should be doable, although I believe that our CWM could use some more work.
Sogarth said:
A quick glance says that they're using update.zip files to clobber /system, so they're not touching the bootloader. So this should be doable, although I believe that our CWM could use some more work.
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To tell you the truth, I was thinking somewhere along those lines also.
So why couldn't we do this for the Atrix?
no dev is working on it o.o
p.s. been doind this on my x10 for months now lol
BravoMotorola said:
To tell you the truth, I was thinking somewhere along those lines also.
So why couldn't we do this for the Atrix?
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If it's doable, there probably is someone already doing it, just keeping quiet till a working version is reached. This phone is quite new, I think we just need some patience...
Cheers
tsouza said:
If it's doable, there probably is someone already doing it, just keeping quiet till a working version is reached. This phone is quite new, I think we just need some patience...
Cheers
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Ahh. And another thing, anybody know what "2nd init" is?
Wow. Didn't know that was possible. That'd be awesome if we actually got CM7!
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PixoNova said:
Wow. Didn't know that was possible. That'd be awesome if we actually got CM7!
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We just need to figure out wtf 2nd-init is . Any dev around?
A quick search reveals this.
that is pretty great for defy users, now i am jealous again
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A quick search reveals this.
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Haha thanks. Yea I tried "2nd init" and "2nd init androrid" and couldn't find that. I wonder what you searched...
Anyways this is 2.3.3 they have running on the Defy, and I had no clue this was even close to possible. We got some pro dev's? Pay the guy who ported Cyanogen to the Defy money for an Atrix and money for a monthly AT&T bill and maybe he'll do it
Apparently nobody reads my thread I posted this weeks ago -_-
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BravoMotorola said:
Haha thanks. Yea I tried "2nd init" and "2nd init androrid" and couldn't find that. I wonder what you searched...
Anyways this is 2.3.3 they have running on the Defy, and I had no clue this was even close to possible. We got some pro dev's? Pay the guy who ported Cyanogen to the Defy money for an Atrix and money for a monthly AT&T bill and maybe he'll do it
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+1 to this, I come from N1 and I really really miss CM7
tsouza said:
+1 to this, I come from N1 and I really really miss CM7
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We can only hope that one of our talented devs could somehow make this work for us
Wish I knew how to do this stuff. I'd be all over it if I knew.
I posted over there asking if he would mind stopping by our forum or the IRC channel and giving us a few pointers. We'll see if he does I guess...
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I posted over there asking if he would mind stopping by our forum or the IRC channel and giving us a few pointers. We'll see if he does I guess...
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Who is this person?
Also I really want CM7 please some developer can you work on this? The building blocks are here already.
RacecarBMW said:
Who is this person?
Also I really want CM7 please some developer can you work on this? The building blocks are here already.
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Assuming he's talking about Quarx. The TC of the Defy CM7 topic.
I wonder if he'd be willing to give some devs pointers. Or even attempt this himself
It all starts here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026853
We'd have to port that before anything else...
He says something about Korean developers... Ah ha! That's what has been missing from this equation all along!
Yeh, you are probably right. And as next step would be understanding the current cm7 defy port and maybe try do to the same thing using cm7 harmony as a base.
I could try doing it, I'm a quite experienced java developer (6+ years) and wouldn't have problems learning it BUT, as I already sold my old Nexus One, Atrix is my current phone and I don't wanna risk it... =/
I found a post on the Defy section here and I'm really wondering if we could use this method (tweaked, obviously as there is a directory like "bootmenu" that we don't have because we don't have the same 2nd init boot menu junk they have developed for the Defy) on our Atrix. I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've seen a Motorola Android phone getting unlocked through this type of method, the only other way was to buy an unlock code.
Anyways, If anyone could look into this and see what they think about making this work on the Atrix or all Motorola phones for that matter, it'd be great! I sure hope we can make something out of this!
+1, cheers for digging this up, its definitely worth a look by dev's.
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+1, cheers for digging this up, its definitely worth a look by dev's.
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Yes, the devs need to look at it. It seems nobodys paying any attention to this though which wont help it getting viewed by devs.
I think some of the defy forums already debunked this, but they could be wrong.
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