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at the end of the road?

It seems that android has come to an end for the HD2. There hasn't been major updates in a long time. Not just NAND but lets say the Light sensor hasn't been fixed in any clean froyo builds or random freezes and crashes. In regards to NAND, there hasn't been much activity going on with porting it. I wonder y? could it be that the project just got too old and boring or is it because windows phone 7? in any case it seems to me that this project is slowly coming to an end and only a few chefs are starting to realize it (shubCRAFT, Hyperdroid) are no longer supported (which is due to personal reasons too) i understand that. Im not angry or venting just confirming it. should I sell my [email protected] to get a My touch 4g or a g2? at this point it seems better than waiting for android to work.
I am not trying to anger anyone I just wanted to hear some thoughts.

Im using MDJ FroYo Sense Clean and its stable, fast and the battery drainage is really ok, so i dont think "android for hd2 comes to an end", but "android for hd2 becomes nearly perfect". Sure WP7 is here, so xda-chefs are working for first ROM for HD2 , but i don't think Android-Development is stopped completely

I don't think it will be at an end for years.... but they have done most of the major stuff they can do. I dont think nand is really working as well as they hoped it would... it sounds like it may be slower than sd card. They're still working on it, though. Bugs will continue to be worked on, too.
What more did you expect out of a port? They've done an amazing job. You can't expect it to be as stable and smooth as a native android phone. I always said if you want to use android full-time, you're better off with a native android phone. But what other phone can run winmo and android this well. And its the best winmo phone out there. And there's a possibility of running meego and wp7. Its gonna be my phone of choice for a long time still.
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Very well said. I will never sell this phone for the mere fact that I can dual boot and the GPS on this thing is amazing. Way better than my Samsung Captivate.
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Android on the hd2 is already better than I ever expected it to be, so I'm happy. I use winmo when I need the phone to be stable and for certain apps... then when I'm playing around or want to use certain android apps I can boot into android in less than a minute. What more could I want. If they were still developing winmo phones, I'd still buy winmo phones... most new winmo phones eventually run android good enough to use any apps you want to use.
People who say the hd2 runs android better than native android phones always compare it to android phones still running stock roms without tweaks. If you tweak and customize a native android phone, it runs way better than a hd2 ever will... that's why if I wanted android full-time I'd get a native phone.
But I love the many options and possibilities the hd2 offers... and I still like winmo and the way I can customize it. Android runs good enough for me on it.... and you can't run winmo on an android phone.
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I fully agree with you. But I'm tired from winmo. I want to feel something new. Something undiscovered for me. Its something like a new car. But I've already bought hd2 and i don't want another phone. I just want android without Linux. I just want a fully based android for my phone.. so, can i get it anywhere?
Sorry for my bad English.
Greetings from Russia
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Do you mean NAND (Android without WM-loading)? There isnt a ROM yet, but stay tuned

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Do you mean NAND (Android without WM-loading)? There isnt a ROM yet, but stay tuned
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One Guy just told me about HTCClays SuperHD2 that he founded forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768768 and it runs with minimal screenfreezes and a great battery life.
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Im using MDJ Froyo Sense and i have NO freezes and battery drainage is about 1%/hour

I think it'll be a big mistake to sell your HD2. It is probably be the best and most versatile Windows Mobile device ever built. One device able to run Windows Mobile, Android and very soon Windows Phone 7.
I'm currently been using Mdeejay Evosense 2.3 with hastarin kernel 7.8 and the latest pop wrapper currently being tested. For me android is 99% perfect and I've not had to boot back to Windows mobile in more than 2 weeks. The thing with these android builds is that you've got to try several till you find one which works for you. I tried 7 different builds before finding my current one.
However, we are all different and so you have to decide for yourself. If you feel you can't handle the various issues that are still being worked the, the maybe you should sell your HD2 and get a native android. I personally won't do that.
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oh come on guys. Gingerbread is right around the corner. That will boost interest again. I started with the G1. Interest in it didn't die until i got the HD2. The main reason i got the HD2 is because the G1 couldn't run 2.2 very well. That has been a few months now and I'm sure they got things running well on it. Seriously and they said that the G1 wouldn't run 2.1!! The difference between G1 and HD2 TONS! I honestly dont think there will be anything that android releases that the HD2 wont be able to run.
Granted they have slowed down big time with the releases of android OS but thats a good thing. They were launching stuff so quickly it didn't give the devs time to make stuff rock solid.
I read today that the nexus 1 dev phones will have 2.3 (gingerbread) pushed to them next week! I'm ready bring it on! I know the devs here will tackle it asap.

I fail to see how it is anywhere near the end of the road. Android as it stands now is more stable for me than WinMo ever was. The only slight detractor is battery life which is still not bad at all, I get 20-22 hours straight out of my battery which is only slightly worse than I get with WinMo (about 26 hours).
The reason there's little in the way of amazing, groundbreaking advances in Android is because there's very little left to do. The latest kernels are fantastic, battery life has improved greatly, reliability is amazing now, there's very little left that doesn't work or breaks. I cannot remember the last time I've had a force close, screen of death or anything else terminal, and I no longer boot into windows at all.
Most of the chefs and devs here have things called "personal lives" that require time, and while there's little left to do they are spending time concentrating on themselves. Give it a few weeks/months until gingerbread comes along and the scene will pick up again. In the mean time feel free to get hold of the tools yourself and see what you can do?
If your Android doesn't work properly when I personally have installed Android on about 8 Hd2's for myself and my friends and they never have any complaints then you should investigate why, not give up and sell your phone. That's half the challenge!

HD2: The best ever for all uses? even different OS?

I've read about HD2 performance since it was released, but now it seems that it is getting even better, with full android support and soon WM7, but is it true?
I want to change my X1 and was nearly going to get a Desire because i seem to like android, but i found that HD2 might support WM7 in the near future, and i want to have it too.
but is having HD2 and running on it other OS (Like android) a good choice for everyday use or just for hackers who like to push the device to its limits?

I'd say its more for people who like to mod there phones. It takes a lot of work and research to get android running well.... and it will probably never run as well as you can get a native android phone running. If you just want to run android and want a phone that will easily work, get an android phone. If you want to use winmo and android, and have the time, patience, and willingness to hack and play around with your phone until it works the way you want, then the hd2 is perfect.
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i don't know, i personally like my HD2 with android and ubuntu. aside from having to load a winmo rom so voice and sound would work correctly, the whole process following the FAQ was less than 1hr. i'm not saying there aren't risks, but i do like the reward.

I do little modding on devices I use (computers, routers, mobile phones), and with my X1 i did many experiments and used many ROMs just to get the functionality i want, and still i am not very satisfied with it.
Currently i am trying the X1 version of android, which is quite fast and stable, but there is no support for the camera, wifi is not always working, and it is a huge battery eater (not more than 2-3 hours). but i liked the interface, can be changed easily, many apps in the app store, that's why i wanted an android.
If i see that HD2 can use a Desire HD rom in a native mode, then HD2 is it

What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2. It has very good android port... probably one of the best... but it will always be a port. If you don't want to put the time in to do research and mod it the way you want, then the hd2 may not be for you. Expect to come across problems that will take time to research and find workarounds for. There will be a lot of trial and error to get it to run even close to as well as a native android phone will work out of the box.
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HD2 The Best !
I personally like my HD2 very much ! It's a really high-end device which can be modded as you wish... and I think that the HD2 is even the most customizable phone ever created on market... So I really.. recommend you the HD2, if you will dislike Windows Mobile, this is not a problem at all.. I also dislike it xD... because I've realised that Android is the future... but .. after some Android use & gaming, I was really feeled like.. I wanted to return back to WM.. so I can easily do it.. or even change to another OS like Ubuntu and try it whenever I want.. but if you buy an Android Phone.. you will not have such a customizable OS feature at all .. you will stay locked only on Android... so .. that's why I really like the HD2... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so... and if you'll want to return back to the WM.. just simple .. you will install an Official HD2 ROM.. and you'll have the WM back.. ... so .. it's up to you to decide which phone you take.. but I highly recommend you the HD2 !

zarathustrax said:
What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2.
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Danny1911 said:
... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so...
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by native i mean what Danny1911 said, and it seem there is some research on this this will be great, so, i am a step more to get hd2....

I ordered an HD2, will arrive tomorrow night.... LET THE FUN BEGIN !!!!

zarathustrax said:
What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2. It has very good android port... probably one of the best... but it will always be a port. If you don't want to put the time in to do research and mod it the way you want, then the hd2 may not be for you. Expect to come across problems that will take time to research and find workarounds for. There will be a lot of trial and error to get it to run even close to as well as a native android phone will work out of the box.
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Well said!! The device driver's war will never end anytime soon.

Danny1911 said:
I personally like my HD2 very much ! It's a really high-end device which can be modded as you wish... and I think that the HD2 is even the most customizable phone ever created on market... So I really.. recommend you the HD2, if you will dislike Windows Mobile, this is not a problem at all.. I also dislike it xD... because I've realised that Android is the future... but .. after some Android use & gaming, I was really feeled like.. I wanted to return back to WM.. so I can easily do it.. or even change to another OS like Ubuntu and try it whenever I want.. but if you buy an Android Phone.. you will not have such a customizable OS feature at all .. you will stay locked only on Android... so .. that's why I really like the HD2... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so... and if you'll want to return back to the WM.. just simple .. you will install an Official HD2 ROM.. and you'll have the WM back.. ... so .. it's up to you to decide which phone you take.. but I highly recommend you the HD2 !
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Be careful what you do with your hd2, if you really know what your doing you would always leave a windows mobile build as the resident rom, if windows wasn't to boot first, android would run but would be a service and driver nightmare and would need a bigger rom space on the hd2 to add many recovery sectors to not brick the hd2, the hd2 wasn't intended for resident android use, windows is still the master os at booting into things n shuttin down quick (bluescreen. lol) anyhow, android works great and fast enuff on my hd2 winmo 6.5.x custom rom (spl3) running android 2.2.1 dl desireZ v3.4finalz (webkit 3.1). I come from the dos and basic unix/bsd times, aah the times when DOS Shell with a booted mouse driver using a floppy was great to browse file systems quick n boot many things, cut copy paste ect, and bad because would forget vital entries then back to installing 9 o so floppies again, windows 3.1 saved us all for a long time as regards to media sound and streaming techniques. i went off topic, don't get a hd2 if you don't love windows mobile 2003se and above, if you really educate yourself with more knowledge of mobile devices and framework you would understand that windows mobile is very stable and responsive if you dnt load crap onto your phones memory and create trouble folders especially whilst using a corrupt windows pc os when transferring over to phone storage or mem card, not to mention not formatting the mem card the proper way!! good luck, the hd2 is still holding a little price, i say get it if you like winmobile, you may never be able to do a good custom flash on your hd2 and could brick it if your laptop cuts out half way through, i say use a pc when flashing hard-spl3, custom rom and radio to you hd2. research very good before doing anything with it ok. bless

djellenar said:
Be careful what you do with your hd2, if you really know what your doing you would always leave a windows mobile build as the resident rom, if windows wasn't to boot first, android would run but would be a service and driver nightmare and would need a bigger rom space on the hd2 to add many recovery sectors to not brick the hd2, the hd2 wasn't intended for resident android use, windows is still the master os at booting into things n shuttin do wn quick(bluescreen. lol)
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Um not trying to be a butt hole here but have you not checked out the NAND Andriod ROMs? They seem to be running pretty good. I have talked to plenty of people that use a NAND Andriod ROM as their day to day OS on their HD2.
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don't get a hd2 if you don't love windows mobile 2003se and above, if you really educate yourself with more knowledge of mobile devices and framework you would understand that windows mobile is very stable and responsive if you dnt load crap onto your phones memory and create trouble folders especially whilst using a corrupt windows pc os when transferring over to phone storage or mem card, not to mention not formatting the mem card the proper way!! good luck, the hd2 is still holding a little price, i say get it if you like winmobile, you may never be able to do a good custom flash on your hd2 and could brick it if your laptop cuts out half way through, i say use a pc when flashing hard-spl3, custom rom and radio to you hd2. research very good before doing anything with it ok. bless
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This is very good advice. Windows Mobile is not your average users OS. All of what you said above is great advice.

nand on hd2 is way better than on a mid level Android device.

This thread is from 4 months ago... no reason to revive it.

Moving to Android from NRGZ28 WM6.5 ROM's

I'm slowly but surely falling for the siren song of Android on my HD2. However, I'm kind of spoiled by the NRGZ28 ROM's with all that CHT 2.0 and sencity goodness. I've tried out some of the SD-card Android ROM's (courtesy NRG's easy as pie launcher) but I find myself missing some of the functionality I've become so used to on WM6.5. The home screen. The weather apps. Other stuff. Taken each by themselves it doesn't seem like much, but taken all together and -- incredibly -- I start missing WM6.5.
Can someone advise me (and others) who really enjoy the super nice NRG ROM's with all their slick UI's what's the best Android ROM to start playing with? WM6.5 looks very nice with Sense, but the same Sense on Android looks pretty plain. The Android marketplace shows the WM marketplace for the joke it is, but I just can't get over missing some of the cool features in Sense.
Any advice or suggestions are completely welcome.
Thank you!

yeaandrandroid ruined my touchscreen. There are many builds ,most are rushed. none polished. be warned

I'd flash a Desire HD build. They are the probably the best thing android can offer IMO. Look for Mdeejays Froyo HD 4.6 it's what I use and it has been alright for me.
NRG energy roms are beast and probably is the only bright light of WM on our device.. still dont know why people are so quick to throw WM down when i feel like I'm running two different phones when im on WM (WM being the superior device)
Android just doesnt feel as swift as WM does with an energy rom.
Must give you a heads up.. MMS on android is a pain in the butt and there are several upon several threads with so many apn's.. i just switch to WM to handle that because its as easy as breathing.

i dont know whats missing
I have no idea what is missing in Android sense that winmo has. Android has the weather, clock, album, music, mail, internet is fast but not as fast as opera but atleast it supports full flash. Well I was never a hardcore fan of winmo so maybe my opinion is biased and I might be forgetting something as I haven't used winmo in 4 months or so.

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I'm slowly but surely falling for the siren song of Android on my HD2. However, I'm kind of spoiled by the NRGZ28 ROM's with all that CHT 2.0 and sencity goodness. I've tried out some of the SD-card Android ROM's (courtesy NRG's easy as pie launcher) but I find myself missing some of the functionality I've become so used to on WM6.5. The home screen. The weather apps. Other stuff. Taken each by themselves it doesn't seem like much, but taken all together and -- incredibly -- I start missing WM6.5.
Can someone advise me (and others) who really enjoy the super nice NRG ROM's with all their slick UI's what's the best Android ROM to start playing with? WM6.5 looks very nice with Sense, but the same Sense on Android looks pretty plain. The Android marketplace shows the WM marketplace for the joke it is, but I just can't get over missing some of the cool features in Sense.
Any advice or suggestions are completely welcome.
Thank you!
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If you still like winmo, then why not keep it? You can have winmo and android on your phone. I'm playing around with nand android right now, but I plan on going back to winmo and running android off sd... the way I see it, nand doesn't improve android enough to want to get rid of the ability to run multiple os's on it. That's what makes the HD2 special... If I wanted a phone that just ran android off nand and that's it, I would've gotten a native android phone. But to each his own... we have lot's of choices with the HD2.

Just caught your post as I was pondering a move to Android. I have also been running NRG's CHT for a while and been very happy.
Decided to go ahead anyway, flashed the Desire ROM, and it's interesting. Some things are familiar, other things are not. Android seems to be working a bit differently than WM, in that there isn't a 'close' button, and I don't like having to puch the key to get back to my home screen every time, but there's probably an app for that.
On the whole, I can see how 'Droid is a boon for those new to more sophisticated smart phones, but for those of us who have been running WM for a while, there don't seem to be any surprises as we've already been spoiled by having this sort of functionality.
The real reason I'm strongly considering moving to Android is that Microsoft has pretty much left us at a dead end. I had a considerable investment in software for WM 6.x but knowing in advance that WM7 was going to leave me out in the cold, my last software purchases have been from developers who have apps in both platforms, such as CoPilot and PocketInformant.
Anyway, all I can suggest is to use a good backup program like Sprite or SPB backup, archive your Energy ROM and give Android a shot. The worst that can happen is you flash back. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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If you still like winmo, then why not keep it? You can have winmo and android on your phone. I'm playing around with nand android right now, but I plan on going back to winmo and running android off sd... the way I see it, nand doesn't improve android enough to want to get rid of the ability to run multiple os's on it. That's what makes the HD2 special... If I wanted a phone that just ran android off nand and that's it, I would've gotten a native android phone. But to each his own... we have lot's of choices with the HD2.
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The main reason I'm looking to move to Android is the availability of apps. The WM Marketplace was a total joke before WP7 came out and killed WM6.5. Now nobody in their right mind is going to spend any time developing anything cool for WM6.5. All the new apps are either iPhone or Android.
I figure in a year, maybe less, there'll be no worthwhile apps for WM6.5 at all (not that there are many now). I'd rather eat dirt than have an iPhone, so the sooner I get on the Android bandwagon the more familiar I'll be with it when it fully hits its stride.

Hi Prisoner881, I just wanted to say that I felt exactly like you mate. I'd trawl xda every day or 2 to see how the Andriod NAND build was coming along (never wanted to do the SD Card Android - too much mither for me). I was getting really miffed with the Marketplace - very few new apps and expensive too.
So 3 days ago I decided to take the plunge. My phone is with Vodafone and I had the 1.66 ROM on it.
So I followed mskips instructions to install Android (using Cortulla's Desire build) and it took about 30 minutes in total to do everything without a glitch. I got to say man, I'm blown away with it. Once you get used to the differences, I haven't even thought about Winmo. There are so many quality free apps, it's just stunning.
One thing to bear in mind is, if you have an EU HD2, you don't have much memory left to install stuff (about 120MB). You can get around this by Rooting the Andriod phone (really easy) then installing Move2SD (free from the Market). Then most apps you download will go directly to the SD card and if they don't it is easy to move them.
I've installed roughly 50 apps so far, still got over 30mb free on my phone.
There is also another chef creating a NAND build based on Cortulla's which is trimmed down (removing some of the crap that I'll never use). This should give a lot more space when it's fully ready
I'd go for it dude as I can't put the damned phone down now (even my iPhone obsessed missus is jealously looking on )

well a year has passed on this thread and having been a long time NRG WM6.5 Rom user with CHT2 customisation and all the right apps to make the device perfect, i have just picked up a couple of Sensation XE handsets to replace our HD2's.
Whilst the Android Marketplace has a huge amount of apps, some apps just arent available for WM6.5 and offer some degree of incentive to make the switch.
I have toyed around with SD Android builds but none were compelling enough to be more than eye candy and interesting alternative OS for my HD2s.
The primary functions i had running on my HD2 were shared calendars with Outlook allowing my wife and i to see family schedules.(using Nuevasync which is an excellent service) and push email via the Carriers branded Sevenmail app.
Since receiving my Sensation XE the UI is slick and im working towards finding practical solutions to replacing my WM6.5 apps.
However the biggest initial hurdle is the lack of Outlook contacts sync. I am trying the HTC Sync application but its too early to tell whether this will be suffient or not.
How have other NRG rom users managed their migration to the Android platform?

In my humble opinion, sense is pointless on Android. In WM we *needed* lots of overlays and tweaks just to make the OS usuable (have you ever turned sense off in WM? Its terrible!), but in Android we don't need all this. We can install an alternative launcher if we want, or keep it stock with it still looking good.
As for moving to Android, that was simply 'keeping with the times' and 'because I could'
Anyway, I wouldn't recommend installing a sense ROM because Android doesn't need it, its a resource hog, its not as pretty as the WM version, and if you're using an EU handset it takes up too much space. Of course you may fall in love with it, this is just my experience.
I ended up trying CyanogenMod after bidding farewell to sense, and loved all the extra functionality. However I found it just wasn't 'pretty' enough.
So along came MIUI, who swiftly gave me all the answers. It's got nice eye-candy (with built in theme manager and HUNDREDS of themes to choose from, some even sense like), fast, customisable, weekly updates, and has some cool features (set the music app to turn off after a few hours so it can lull you to sleep, built-in data managing on a per-app, per-connection and global basis, lock editing the phone/viewing call logs to show people the phone, auto-arrange items on home screen, literally too much to mention)
To summarise - it's all about your preference, but don't think sense is the only way to go.

I recently also did the swap from the Energy WM ROM to the Energy Android NAND ROM and for now I must say that I love the Android.
The connectivity to Windows PC & sync was almost perfect before with WM ROM but there have also been many problems & issues.
If you can live with the camcorder resolution issue on the Android ROM then the only thing you have to decide is with which bootloader to go.
I first went with the MAGLDR but then realized the missing battery loading function when phone is off. So I went with cLK (which has the data dropping thing, which they will hopefully be able to change away from PPP connection).
But anyhow, I should have done the switch to the NRG Android ROM much earlier as this system is so much faster, stable and the community with apps and infos is just blowing.
Many thanks goes to the chief NRG for his time & work.

HTC HD2

Hi all!
I am new on this forum and I do not know it really good, so I like to ask some questions here (hope someone will not be angry if I missed right thread for this).
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it.
Hope you will understand my "problems", and sorry for bad English.
I would be really gratefull for any help. Thanks alot!
Best regards,
Sam.

ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)

Robson said:
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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That was a very good reply. I'm currently bidding on an HD2. I have an iPhone 4, but am so bored with it. It's jailbroken to add themes right now.
My friend has an HD2 w/Windows and Android. I think that is way cool. I love to mod stuff so an iPhone for me just doesn't cut it. Although, there are a lot of good developers and applications on Cydia repositories. Anyone know if it's possible to load a mobile version of Backtrack? I see Ubuntu has been done, yes? I'm just wanting some hacking tools for pen testing. A little off topic, but...
EDIT: Anyway you should edit your title to comply with the forum rules. I just read it myself.

Look forward to this proposed HTC Pyramid, also the LG Optimus 2X looks like a cracking phone as well.

Robson said:
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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Robson I do not know how to thank you enough for this reply.
Now I know I will buy it definitely. First I will give a try WM 6.5 then Android 2.2 and maybe WP 7 too. Then I will choose.
So on Froyo phone works smooth, like Desire HD? I saw on WP 7 is phone really fast, but it's home screen looks so ugly for me. Hope developers will make some ROMs or skins, which will look like Android.
Thank you very much again!
Regards.

you're welcome, mate. once you get your unit fiddle around with it in wm6.5 first. don't jump to android just yet. once you're done with 6.5, get into android and i'm pretty sure you'll notice the difference in the interface. a few things to consider for the future:
- radio and rom upgrade (for wm6.5). if you do upgrade, make sure you read the threads first as you don't want to end up with a bricked phone
- android, there are lots of builds you can try and they're quite easy to do. you might notice the massive battery drain when you first try android out. but after fiddling and tweaking you'll get the right settings which will give you the best battery output
- w7, make sure you read the threads as it can be a little tricky
by the way, are you getting a t-mobile or the european version?
cheers

1)If you don't have the budget for a desire hd, get a desire then. It's better at android than the HD2. Meaning it will run smoother, faster, and all it's functions work.
Plus if you're horrible at tech stuff, eg READING! xD Then I plead for you to stay away from this phone, another thread made on questions answered a million times is not needed here. Especially this same one you posted here, sorry.
The HD2 is a good phone, but it isn't made for the half hearted. People who aren't ready to be devoted to their device should stay away from the HD2.
2)winmo isn't bad. In terms of functionality/efficiency, you could say it is ahead in some areas, and behind in others to other OSes. Apps is something you can check on your own, they have a marketplace.
3)I'm not you so i wouldn't know. But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!

Kailkti said:
But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!
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Basically, he said you are a moron. Anyway so...no just kidding dude I'm the same way, lol. Simple works for me. However, I would like to complicate things sometimes by modding. Jailbreaking is probably elementry school compared to doing Android and Windows mods which is like PhD...
@ Kailkti, Can't he have Windows 7, but still mod other OS's not interfering with his main one. So, basically he can mod break junk and then at least load up a working OS? I guess it depends on the mod, huh?

Of course he can, he can load any of the available OSes, that the devs have ported to this device, and still revert back to the WP7. However, his aim is not to mod, his aim is just something that works. Now clearly the hd2 isn't marketed to those kinds of people, nor is android. The only OSes made for the types of people who want something that just works, is iOS and WP7. They're so simple, it's baffling that their smartphone OSes. Atleast the iOS falls in that case.
And modding on the HD2 may become overwhelming to him if his attitude is just for something that simply works. Now I'm not saying winmo doesn't work. It works great. But it won't work "great" for you since, again from my impression of you, you prolly want games, and other entertainment stuff from your phone. Now android or iOS, or even WP7 is a better choice than winmo, in such a field.

Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.

Man, I can't wait to get mine. Still winning the bid on eBay!

saMMuel'sky said:
Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.
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well done man, you now have 3 stable operating systems to learn, all of them with some great pros!

Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!

saMMuel'sky said:
Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!
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Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.

Thank you! I will try to fix this problem.

orangekid said:
Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.
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Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.

saMMuel'sky said:
Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.
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I've never done this before. To format the SD Card to FAT32 is easy.
1) Buy a SD Card Reader
2) Hook it up to your computer
3) Plug card in
4) Go to my computer
5) right click and select format
6) choose fat32 as the file system
7) done
Of course, they have multi-card readers. Would be better in case you ever get anything else down the line..hmm I may buy one that fits in the cd rom drive bay. I have an empty slot, would be cool and factory looking.

Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!

saMMuel'sky said:
Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!
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lol no worries, glad you got it working.

Best choice of phone, I keep looking for a phone that runs android and wp7 and maybe windows mobile, but keep coming back to the hd2, because its the only phone that can run them all.
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[Q] HD2 Best android or stay at WM ?

Hi i am soon to get HTC HD2. On phone is factory WM6.5. My question is next :
Should I stay on WM 6.5 or switch to android ? If u suggest switch to android can u suggest NAND ROM with sense and everything working? Will I have some problems if i flash android(like camera problems,fm radio etc)
Be specific as much as u can. Thanks

Cjovecje! said:
Hi i am soon to get HTC HD2. On phone is factory WM6.5. My question is next :
Should I stay on WM 6.5 or switch to android ? If u suggest switch to android can u suggest NAND ROM with sense and everything working? Will I have some problems if i flash android(like camera problems,fm radio etc)
Be specific as much as u can. Thanks
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*sigh* search the forums for exactly the same question(s) asked billions of times over.
Swtich to Android
First try it out on SD, find a ROM you like
Flash a NAND ROM using this guide
You will not have any issues.

I like android better but it can be frustrating because every Rom seems to have some kind of issue, so you have to settle for something less than the perfect.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium

But still u didnt told me will there be any problems regarding android on HD2 ?

Cjovecje! said:
But still u didnt told me will there be any problems regarding android on HD2 ?
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And you still haven't learned the concept of reading have you? I said there won't be any issues (none that are significant) and if there are any issues it will be listed in the OP of the ROM.

Even though android ROMs by our developers are not perfect and have small issues, from my experience I can say that WM has MUCH more issues than any android ROM out here.

sahunt1 said:
I like android better but it can be frustrating because every Rom seems to have some kind of issue, so you have to settle for something less than the perfect.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium
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haven't had any issues on many Android Roms

Cjovecje! said:
Hi i am soon to get HTC HD2. On phone is factory WM6.5. My question is next :
Should I stay on WM 6.5 or switch to android ? If u suggest switch to android can u suggest NAND ROM with sense and everything working? Will I have some problems if i flash android(like camera problems,fm radio etc)
Be specific as much as u can. Thanks
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depends on u'r primary use of the phone. from my personal experience (mind it, PERSONAL experience):
1. WM6.5 will give u better battery life. and it's an amazing os in terms of ability to customize. but the default os feels obsolete.
2. to me, why live with just one when u can have both? SD android is my preference. in fact, after a bit of tweak which u will learn eventually, none of the nand android that i've tried or those on my my frnds devices runs better or smoother than my SD build (with MGLDR). and that includes even desire HD.
3. have u tried WP7.5? unless battery life is extremely important for u, WP7 and SD android with MAGLDR is the best combo, in my opinion.
WP7 is still at its initial stage and thus have limitations that will get fixed in time. having android side by side can help overcome those issues.
it's really a matter of personal preference.
welcome to the amazing world of HD2. really the king.

I am getting better battery life on NAND than I was getting with WM6.5
Just my experience.
However, android turns this phone into something many steps higher.
Unsolvable problems I had on WM took about 1 min to solve in android.
Really, the difference is unbelievable.

I switched to Android
The month I made my last payment to T-Mobile for my unlocked HTC HD2, Microsoft dropped support for WM 6.5 and closed the marketplace. Aloqa (one of my favorites stopped working, and it became obvious that I was on my own.
A quick check showed that iPhones don't run on T-mobile, and I no longer trusted Microsoft, so I started researching Android phones. Surprise! The best value Android phone was the one I already had: my HTC HD2!
My initial concern was the interface between my phone and Outlook on my desk top. That had been the principal reason I went with Windows Mobile in the first place. I run my own mail server and had no intention of turning everything over to Google's cloud. It looked like there were several solutions available so I got started.
My first step was to install an SD version on my SD Card. I chose a ROM with HTC Sense in it because it seemed closer to my WM6.5 experience. It proved that my phone could run Android. I tried using HTC Synch to manage my contacts and calendar. It never quite worked so I switched to Android-Synch and I'm happy with that.
I soon became aware that there were two main problems with my choice of ROM:
Performance: There was significant lag in responding to events.
Storage Space: There wasn't much room left for installing Apps.
So I decided to dump WM 6.5 and flash my ROM with native Android. I decided against Sense for space reasons and chose LEO HD ICCMS in order to get the latest UI. With a few minor glitches it has worked very well for me. Here are my observations in no particular order:
The App Market is far richer than what we had on Windows Mobile!
Widgets allow you to prsonalize the pages of the home screen.
Non-gmail operation is the major departure from common Android usage. Android-Sync created accounts not linked to the cloud. K-9 mail handles my IMAP account just fine.
Apps are cheap. They sell by the million for just a few bucks.
The best widget for calendar and mail for me is Executive Assistant.
With no ROM permanently on my 16 GB SD card, I have room for tons of music. Power Amp is my player.
I do a lot of photography. HDRCam and Quickpic turn my phone into a serious tool.
I had been using OneNote Mobile. It is replaced by Mobile Noter.
Bottom line: for less then $100 in apps I ended up with a phone far superior to what I had with WM 6.5. It should last me until I can't live without 4G radio, the one new piece of hardware I'm missing.

Yes Correct, It does give a better Battery life but in General , some little ignorable glitches with seasoned NAND roms is better than fully functional WM 6.5, I flashed the mwakiousROM® 0.23.1 yesterday ( my second flash in two days after 1.5 years of WM 6.5) and the results are great !