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Future of HD2 Android?

I was wondering once Android on the hd2 is stable, will it be possible to flash a ROM like we do with wm or will be stuck using haret or the dualboot thing? Or is it too soon to even forecast?

As I understand atm its just running ontop of windows you dont flash android yet, but i guess they will try and get it to work as a rom eventually after they have all the driver issues sorted out and the little niggles there is but don't hold you're breathe for now mate, I wouldn't even like to say if its possible to have it as a main rom,

I believe the devs plan to have android boot from nand. Whether or not they will be successful remains to be seen. I have faith that we will have a good solution in time.

Ok cool to know! I've been running sense all day and im hooked!

Demon_man said:
As I understand atm its just running ontop of windows you dont flash android yet, but i guess they will try and get it to work as a rom eventually after they have all the driver issues sorted out and the little niggles there is but don't hold you're breathe for now mate, I wouldn't even like to say if its possible to have it as a main rom,
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It is not running on top of winmo... haret.exe shuts down the windows kernel and launches the linux kernel. Right now, they need winmo to boot first because winmo initializes a lot of the hardware. Eventually, once they have drivers that can initialize everything on its own, they can boot android from nand, but that will probably take a while. Only 1 or 2 winmo devices out of over a dozen that have android ports have android roms that can be flashed, and thats after years of development.
Personally, I prefer to keep winmo and have the ability to boot android or other linux builds when i want to. I prefer winmo, but also love android and love the fact that i can run both on my phone. Also, booting from nand doesn't really improve performance on any of the other android ports. If I wanted android full-time, I'd get an android phone... and I know some people are going to say there is no android phone with the screen or specs available for their carrier... but I can almost guarantee that by the time we have a flashable rom, there will be plenty of android phones with equal or better specs and screen for your carrier or country. I just don't see the reason to flash and get rid of winmo when you could have the best of both worlds. I guess maybe I'm just a winmo fan, but I don't know why you would have an HD2 if you weren't. Why make your phone just another android phone when you could have a dual-booting power-phone that can run both android and winmo apps. There's no playstation emulator for android!

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It is not running on top of winmo... haret.exe shuts down the windows kernel and launches the linux kernel. Right now, they need winmo to boot first because winmo initializes a lot of the hardware. Eventually, once they have drivers that can initialize everything on its own, they can boot android from nand, but that will probably take a while. Only 1 or 2 winmo devices out of over a dozen that have android ports have android roms that can be flashed, and thats after years of development.
Personally, I prefer to keep winmo and have the ability to boot android or other linux builds when i want to. I prefer winmo, but also love android and love the fact that i can run both on my phone. Also, booting from nand doesn't really improve performance on any of the other android ports. If I wanted android full-time, I'd get an android phone... and I know some people are going to say there is no android phone with the screen or specs available for their carrier... but I can almost guarantee that by the time we have a flashable rom, there will be plenty of android phones with equal or better specs and screen for your carrier or country. I just don't see the reason to flash and get rid of winmo when you could have the best of both worlds. I guess maybe I'm just a winmo fan, but I don't know why you would have an HD2 if you weren't. Why make your phone just another android phone when you could have a dual-booting power-phone that can run both android and winmo apps. There's no playstation emulator for android!
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Well put, I dont think droid is worth no psx games! I understand why people want a nand build though!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732160
Check out this thread for development.

Personally i prefer this dual boot system.It is simply the best.The advantages are very big for me.There things i like in winmo and dont want to lose. A 2 in 1 device is simply the best combination

Hi guys , has anyone tried to create Android rom for HD2
using Supersonic's ( Evo 4G ) Rom ?
I mean :
- take some parts of Ssonic rom to compare this with existing "pre"Android Rom
for HD2
Some parts should be similar so..... anyone tried ???
Don't tell me about differences hd2->SSonic because i know this.
Answer please.

It would be great if we could have something like grub, with both WinMo and Android installed, and enabling us to select which to boot right after turning the phone on! But I don't see this coming

yeah its too early to know. Imagine having an Android ROM on it that isn't fully compatible and then you get an error that won't let you hard reset or boot to the flash screen. Youd brick your phone! I think it will happen but not for maybe another year and by then I'm sure more high spec phones will be out.

How about somebody figures out how to run a barebones WM and Android on internal memory? Then it would have SD hotswap. I don't know if that is even possible though (probably not).

I've thought about this. with internal memory, I believe it is more stable and speedy than SDcard.

My hd 2 android and my evo
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zarathustrax said:
It is not running on top of winmo... haret.exe shuts down the windows kernel and launches the linux kernel. Right now, they need winmo to boot first because winmo initializes a lot of the hardware. Eventually, once they have drivers that can initialize everything on its own, they can boot android from nand, but that will probably take a while. Only 1 or 2 winmo devices out of over a dozen that have android ports have android roms that can be flashed, and thats after years of development.
Personally, I prefer to keep winmo and have the ability to boot android or other linux builds when i want to. I prefer winmo, but also love android and love the fact that i can run both on my phone. Also, booting from nand doesn't really improve performance on any of the other android ports. If I wanted android full-time, I'd get an android phone... and I know some people are going to say there is no android phone with the screen or specs available for their carrier... but I can almost guarantee that by the time we have a flashable rom, there will be plenty of android phones with equal or better specs and screen for your carrier or country. I just don't see the reason to flash and get rid of winmo when you could have the best of both worlds. I guess maybe I'm just a winmo fan, but I don't know why you would have an HD2 if you weren't. Why make your phone just another android phone when you could have a dual-booting power-phone that can run both android and winmo apps. There's no playstation emulator for android!
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I too prefer the ability boot both WM and Android rather than booting Android exclusively. After using the desire rom for the past couple of days, call me crazy, but it really feels like sense on Windows Mobile with cookies home tab is more streamlined and accessible. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Android over Windows Mobile at the end of the day, but the aging WM OS still has a lot of perks.
What I'd rather see is a solution that allows you to truly dual boot WM and Android, and making jumping in and out of one for the other relatively quick and easy.

DeadVirus said:
It would be great if we could have something like grub, with both WinMo and Android installed, and enabling us to select which to boot right after turning the phone on! But I don't see this coming
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I don't see how this is all that different than any of the several apps the devs here have created to let you choose after booting whether you want to boot Android (even the build of your choice) or WinMo... I'm running it now and that app works rather flawlessly.

i just cant wait to ahve a nand android on hd2,,, its soo awesome,,,
i have installed the latest 1.7 of froyo..on hd2 qnd it rocks,...only if it were possible to ake it permaert.
now what i wan tis atleat some news from the developers side to show ,, they are still int he works of developing android nand.... no news is such bad news ....

[Q] What will happen when android is 100% functional with htc hd2 ??

will a custom ROM have android instead of WM6.5 ?? i mean it will direct boot to android or we still have to open android from WM6.5 ??

at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong

oh ok when it will be 100% functional with everything working it could be flashed to nand without the WM ?

why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?

...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
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PhoneConnect247 said:
...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
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loooooool i saw the title and was about to write the exact same thing ...
what would happen ..... it will run 100% no more no less , alltho i doubt that will ever happen cuz it occasionally has bad days on nexus too , like all the OS-es

bbezja1 said:
at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong
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i think thats wrong. android is NOT an app running in windows mobile. this would mean android is runnning as some kind of emulation. as far as i know, winmo is still needed in order to initialize the hardware. by starting haret.exe, the wince-kernel is shut down and a linux bootloader is started.

hopefully we'll be able to flash an android rom to nand and have a device which can hold either OS equally. I personally like the fact that the HD2 can become versatile. I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device. I wanted to have a taste of android with the ability to run WM as i have for the past 4 years.

nir36 said:
I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device.
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but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?

hebbe said:
but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?
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I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.

hazard99 said:
I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.
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screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )

D4rkSoRRoW said:
screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )
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Can't wait
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Can some one answer this question. What windows mobile 6.5 do, that android can't do? This is my first WM phone and I tho it was alright. I would of got the Evo but I can't switch carriers until the end of the year. Since now we got android, I'm staying with t-mo. I pay full price for this phone ($560.00 in NYC) I first regretted and since android I don't. Anyways I found that android do much more for me than WM. So if I'm wrong please some one tell me. Ps: excuse my english.
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For me, I would consider the NAND flash for Android ROM the 100% fully functional since that is of primary importance to me here.

I bought my HD2 even though I knew it had WM. And at the time I didn't want Android at all, just my WM, but with some configurations & such.
But now that I have Android running on it instead, I never want to go back.
And just like someone else said, there ain't an Android phone around that have the same hardware specs as the HD2. Except the EVO, but I've had my phone a long time before they released the EVO. And from what I know it's only available in the US. Maybe I could import one and configure it to run on Swedish networks, but wth..

The wife and I got this phone and she didn't realize it was Windows Mobile. This was my first experience with Sense UI and thought it was awesome.
I loved the phone for what it could do and actually "Used" it to it's potential. She "HATES" it. Then again, I don't blame her. Sense fails hard when it comes to texting and load lag
She can't wait till I can flash Android to her phone. Me, i'll stick with my options.

D4rkSoRRoW said:
why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?
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I don't think people who HATE WinMo buy this phone with the sole intent of putting another OS on it. I think most people bought it for the screen & the media capabilities. For me, I saw a lot of potential in the hardware specs and bought mine cause it's the last real WM phone(I'm sappy like that) and because it's a GSM phone that I can unlock & use for years to come. It was like buying a barebones PC that I could run whatever I want on & have multi-boot systems.
I decided to run Android on it initially out of sheer curiosity, and so I can learn the next OS I'm gonna be using. When WM dies out(it's GOING to happen, so we may as well face it), Android will be what I will move on to partly because its Linux & open source, and partly because there's no way in pus-spewing, blood-gutted hell that I would ever use an iPhone or Blackberry(WP7 has NEVER been an option). I must say, Android runs VERY well on this phone even in its current stage of development, I can't wait to see how awesome it'll be as a fully flashable rom. I'm already almost to the point of not even missing WM anymore. I've been running it for a week now & I'm getting to know how everything works & I love it. Very versatile & powerful, and quite stable. I don't think I quite realized just how many lockups and crashes I was really having with WM until I started using Android as my main OS. The first time I used Android I HATED it because I had a bad build & an underpowered phone(One of the first leaked Froyo builds on a Sprint Hero) and it ran like crap. But with the combo I've got now, it's simply awesome. Everything is so integrated & all the programs mesh together so beautifully. It really does 'just work', and it's hackable & customizable at the same time. Best of both worlds. If & when a NAND version of Android for the HD2 comes out, you can count me in.
Don't get me wrong, I will ALWAYS love WinMo. I think it's the best mobile OS there ever was, and it's incredibly sad that it's dying. It would still be going strong if Microsoft had just marketed it better & hadn't copped out with WP7. But I'm not gonna stay with a stagnant platform that nobody develops for anymore(I'd have stayed with Palm OS otherwise), and I was honestly starting to get bored with it. I had pushed WM to it's limits & did everything I could possibly do with it, and it's just time to move on. I believe Android is the wave of the future, and will eventually overtake the iPhone in popularity.
Plus I love robots, so anything named 'Android' is automatically cool in my book

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Friendly robots are a plus in my book.
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Once android 2.2 is fully working, android gingerbread will be released and people can start working on that. Windows phone 7 is also a possibility. Ubuntu is still under development as well. The possibilities are endless.

Why windows mobile 7 when android so much better?
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What OS are you using as your daily driver?

Hi,
I was just curious about which OS is used the most, and which OS is used the least. Please submit your vote, so we can get an as accurate as possible picture. By Daily driver I mean which OS you're using right now to text, call and just use for your daily life.
A short list of the options and their definitions:
Stock Windows Mobile 6.5.x - You're using the stock rom that came with the device, or an official update.
Custom Windows Mobile 6.5.x - You've flashed a custom rom like Energy rom. Chances are you're changing the rom on a regular basis.
Android SD/RAM - You're running Android old school from your SD card, or you're using a RAM build.
Android NAND - You're using the latest and greatest NAND (Internal memory) build(s) out there!
Windows Phone 7 - You're loyal to Microsoft and decided to flash Redmond's latest and greatest.
Ubuntu - You decided a mobile OS just wasn't good enough, and you gave your HD2 a full desktop/netbook experience! Unlikely you're using this on a daily basis though
MeeGo - You're using MeeGo. I'm not sure if it's possible, as it hasn't been released yet, but it's worth a shot.
- If you're dualbooting, just choose the main one.
I'm curious what the results might be. I'm currently using Windows Phone 7 for texting, calling, some gaming and just for the general experience. I've also partitioned half of my SD card for Darkstone SuperRAM, just for Angry Birds and Scooter Hero. I think most people are using a Android NAND build by now though.

Android SD/RAM - Utterly smooth, I haven't changed builds for five weeks because I have no problems with this. First time my phone has been flawless in the 24 months I've had it (I'm including the Blackstone days! ).
I am very keen to go NAND. I'm just waiting until the ROMs have had a month under their belt so they are watertight. I would normally be flashing like mad, but I'm just too happy with my phone for now.
Not too interested in WP7. If it was as easy as switching memory cards, I'd probably give it a week's fair chance. But I think Android's got my heart!
ROM: Evo's Black&Blue remix

PAST Windows Phone 7 - Was using it but after 2 days I decided to change back to Winmo becouse it had too much limitations to my country and I didn't want to use an other Windows Live profile, but it is a great development. When it is better and available in my county I'm definitely going to use it. I have an key already . Try the chat-support if you're afraid to call
STOCK Windows Mobile 6.5 - Back to stock, it is OK but not perfect. See my Windows Phone 7 story why Windows Mobile. Why the stock version? I want to keep my warranty and Android SD builds are good enough for me.
Android SD/RAM - You don't need NAND when you use RAM builds. It's very fast. Android is good and I like it, when i'm going to put Windows Phone 7 next time on my phone I definitely putting Android on SD as well on my phone. The best combination ever.
Sorry for poor english

Looks like it's between android NAND and WP7 now

I used WP7 but am going back to Android right now... WP7 needs more work from Redmond before I might give it another chance.

Been off-line a couple of months.. Carnt believe all the new developments..
Iv just been running the Core Series ever since i got my Leo.
Sergio76 from the Core Cell Team has been working hard on their first CoreDroid HD NAND version. All i can say is your all in for a big surprise!!
Check my sig if you not familiar with Sergio76's work.

I used winmo stock for the first 3 weeks i had my Leo. Just while i got my head around the differences from my diamond. Then flashed an Energy 6.5.x build and not looked back (that was almost a year ago). I've used a couple of android SD builds and i came to the conclusion that it wasn't for me. It feels like an open source iphone for teenagers. Hell, i've used my sisters desire with the stock rom and the feel of the whole phone was lacking compared to my HD2.
This poll is a good idea there is just one problem with it. Android users are very vocal about their love of the operating system. Winmo users tend to be much less so. I think this has a lot to do with the user bases age range (ie alot older than most android users). I also think it has something to do with the original demographic Windows CE was aimed at - IT professionals. Winmo has grown from this and taken people like me with it. I find the integration and compatibility with the windows based networks i run to be the best feature of windows mobile and i'm yet to achieve that using android (and not for want of trying either).
I will try out WP7 but i'm waiting for the february update first. Copy/paste is a must for me.

using android nand atm. so far its awesome! battery life is great, runs really smooth and its pweety :3
i havent tested wp7 yet, although i really want to. Maybe when i have the time next week...

I'm still using nandroid at the moment although already bought a new sdcard to use for WP7. The reason I haven't moved to wp7 yet because I'm so questioning why there is no support from Cotulla, DFT and other Developers (they've disappeared since wp7 on hd2 issued) !!! Probably they're working hard for a better WP7 version, or they can't reach any more progress for WP7 on HD2, or some other reasons. Who knows???
BTW, my nandroid from RaiderX303 is really good now, so I'll wait to see what will happen to wp7 so that i can decide move to wp7 or not!

You guys just try out webbrowsing on wp7

I tried WP7 on my HD2 but could not get past the Live Services verification step. I've given up for now but I absolutely loved the interface and the web browsing. It made me seriously think about getting an HD7 as my next phone until I realised nothing is as open and moddable as Android. I've switched back to Android 2.3 on NAND.
Edit: Finally SUCCESS!!! I got the verification. Going to try WP7 for a while. A seriosuly annoying thing is that some apps that are free on Android Market are charged on WP7 Marketplace.

Last 2 days, I've used WP7 inc. live services and Android on SD Duel Boot. The best thing about WP7 is the smoothness of the OS although the multitouch sucks compared to Android.
I'm most likely gonna go back to Nandroid and use SD to test other Android builds.
So basically a duel boot android/android.

WP7 for me, well at least for the last four days...here is why
GPS...Instant no waiting at all for a fix, using Endomondo for running, the route is spot on, best i have ever seen on any of my other phones, or even this HD2 running WM to Android.
SOUND...the sound quality, through headphones on WP7 is second none, why on eaarth its so much better than Android I really don't know and the ZUNE player and online stuff is simply fantastic
OFFICE...miles better than WM office, Android office apps just don't cut it
GAMES...try Harvest wow can't believe my HD2 is actually running this. loads more to try, also loving AlphaJAX bit like scrabble and wordsmith on Android only slicker.
INTERFACE...slick super fast, makes Android and WM on the HD2 seem antiquated
SOCIAL...the people update is simply perfect, facebook and twitter apps never look so good, loving the swiping about
KEYBOARD...never used such a easy to use keyboard, not sure why its so much better, I can type faster then on swipe, weird
Camera and Video... well this is hands down miles better than anything else for the HD2, did some filming at the weekend and the clarity is amazing
CALENDAR...quick easy and perfect for me to add and adjust my busy schedule
PHONE and SMS...sound quality and signal just work
Ok there are few teething problems but hopefully between XDA and Microsoft these will improve, ie...cut/paste, flash would be nice, but uses to much of my 3g allowance, Multitasking not that it needs it, it runs so fast, but perhaps being able to run my online radio with the brilliant rescoradio and do other things would be nice, otherwise you can have music running all the time and do other things, lets see what happens...

BTW you should cross MeeGo, 'cause it's not been released yet, not even a beta.
I'm using an Activated WP7

Lately I've been running MDJ Gingerbread CM7 flashed from recovery. I like being able to quickly create a clockworkmod backup, swap sd card, then flash WP7 or ubuntu just to mess around with. Afterward I can just flash back clockworkmod, stick my other sd card back in, restore and go right back to gingerbread.

Looking at the poll results thusfar, it seems that the HD2 has to be called an android phone xD

well, my hd2 runs on custom wm. have been jumping between energy and dutty rom. I must say both are equally good and rock stable. But i decided to stay with dutty because his comes with chinese input. tried andriod SD but it's eating battery as if it's free! so decided to stay with wm.

@OP
You forgot to include on the poll Windows 98 and 95 both running on Leo too

orb3000 said:
@OP
You forgot to include on the poll Windows 98 and 95 both running on Leo too
Perhaps a Senior Mod can add this ones
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Actually, knowingly didn't add them as they don't support phone functions so they can't be used as a daily driver.

Guys using Stock Windows Mobile 6.5.x on device like HD2 don't deserve to be on XDA

HTC HD2

Hi all!
I am new on this forum and I do not know it really good, so I like to ask some questions here (hope someone will not be angry if I missed right thread for this).
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it.
Hope you will understand my "problems", and sorry for bad English.
I would be really gratefull for any help. Thanks alot!
Best regards,
Sam.

ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)

Robson said:
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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That was a very good reply. I'm currently bidding on an HD2. I have an iPhone 4, but am so bored with it. It's jailbroken to add themes right now.
My friend has an HD2 w/Windows and Android. I think that is way cool. I love to mod stuff so an iPhone for me just doesn't cut it. Although, there are a lot of good developers and applications on Cydia repositories. Anyone know if it's possible to load a mobile version of Backtrack? I see Ubuntu has been done, yes? I'm just wanting some hacking tools for pen testing. A little off topic, but...
EDIT: Anyway you should edit your title to comply with the forum rules. I just read it myself.

Look forward to this proposed HTC Pyramid, also the LG Optimus 2X looks like a cracking phone as well.

Robson said:
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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Robson I do not know how to thank you enough for this reply.
Now I know I will buy it definitely. First I will give a try WM 6.5 then Android 2.2 and maybe WP 7 too. Then I will choose.
So on Froyo phone works smooth, like Desire HD? I saw on WP 7 is phone really fast, but it's home screen looks so ugly for me. Hope developers will make some ROMs or skins, which will look like Android.
Thank you very much again!
Regards.

you're welcome, mate. once you get your unit fiddle around with it in wm6.5 first. don't jump to android just yet. once you're done with 6.5, get into android and i'm pretty sure you'll notice the difference in the interface. a few things to consider for the future:
- radio and rom upgrade (for wm6.5). if you do upgrade, make sure you read the threads first as you don't want to end up with a bricked phone
- android, there are lots of builds you can try and they're quite easy to do. you might notice the massive battery drain when you first try android out. but after fiddling and tweaking you'll get the right settings which will give you the best battery output
- w7, make sure you read the threads as it can be a little tricky
by the way, are you getting a t-mobile or the european version?
cheers

1)If you don't have the budget for a desire hd, get a desire then. It's better at android than the HD2. Meaning it will run smoother, faster, and all it's functions work.
Plus if you're horrible at tech stuff, eg READING! xD Then I plead for you to stay away from this phone, another thread made on questions answered a million times is not needed here. Especially this same one you posted here, sorry.
The HD2 is a good phone, but it isn't made for the half hearted. People who aren't ready to be devoted to their device should stay away from the HD2.
2)winmo isn't bad. In terms of functionality/efficiency, you could say it is ahead in some areas, and behind in others to other OSes. Apps is something you can check on your own, they have a marketplace.
3)I'm not you so i wouldn't know. But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!

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But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!
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Basically, he said you are a moron. Anyway so...no just kidding dude I'm the same way, lol. Simple works for me. However, I would like to complicate things sometimes by modding. Jailbreaking is probably elementry school compared to doing Android and Windows mods which is like PhD...
@ Kailkti, Can't he have Windows 7, but still mod other OS's not interfering with his main one. So, basically he can mod break junk and then at least load up a working OS? I guess it depends on the mod, huh?

Of course he can, he can load any of the available OSes, that the devs have ported to this device, and still revert back to the WP7. However, his aim is not to mod, his aim is just something that works. Now clearly the hd2 isn't marketed to those kinds of people, nor is android. The only OSes made for the types of people who want something that just works, is iOS and WP7. They're so simple, it's baffling that their smartphone OSes. Atleast the iOS falls in that case.
And modding on the HD2 may become overwhelming to him if his attitude is just for something that simply works. Now I'm not saying winmo doesn't work. It works great. But it won't work "great" for you since, again from my impression of you, you prolly want games, and other entertainment stuff from your phone. Now android or iOS, or even WP7 is a better choice than winmo, in such a field.

Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.

Man, I can't wait to get mine. Still winning the bid on eBay!

saMMuel'sky said:
Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.
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well done man, you now have 3 stable operating systems to learn, all of them with some great pros!

Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!

saMMuel'sky said:
Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!
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Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.

Thank you! I will try to fix this problem.

orangekid said:
Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.
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Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.

saMMuel'sky said:
Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.
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I've never done this before. To format the SD Card to FAT32 is easy.
1) Buy a SD Card Reader
2) Hook it up to your computer
3) Plug card in
4) Go to my computer
5) right click and select format
6) choose fat32 as the file system
7) done
Of course, they have multi-card readers. Would be better in case you ever get anything else down the line..hmm I may buy one that fits in the cd rom drive bay. I have an empty slot, would be cool and factory looking.

Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!

saMMuel'sky said:
Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!
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lol no worries, glad you got it working.

Best choice of phone, I keep looking for a phone that runs android and wp7 and maybe windows mobile, but keep coming back to the hd2, because its the only phone that can run them all.
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[Q] Are you planning on moving to WP7 as main OS?

Hi.
I really like WP7 and I think it fits our HD2's, yet WP7 is very immature.
For the people who are planning on moving to WP7 instead of Android, what is the milestone you are waiting for?
For the people who are not planning on moving, what are the main reasons?
Currently, I'm waiting for Mango final and a very specific application - Whatsapp.
I realize there are alternatives, but most of my friends with iOS and Android are using Whatsapp.
Anyways, its not Whatsapp as a single application, but a maturity of WP7 as an OS...
Are there any other crucial issues you think should be resolved before WP7 can be used as a main OS?

i think hd2 will get ports from future matured releases of WP7 (at least for some time).
since my hd2 is not just a phone, i am not willing to consider moving on to native WP7 devices. if i can go for multiple OSs and play with all of them, why on earth i'd limit myself to just one?
but, tmo, if u'r phone is just a phone to make calls or browse internet, native WP7 is the choice for u.
but for me.. NO. i think i'll keep my HD2
point is, i dont need to chose between WP7 and android. i can keep both.

HD2-WP7 said:
i think hd2 will get ports from future matured releases of WP7 (at least for some time).
since my hd2 is not just a phone, i am not willing to consider moving on to native WP7 devices. if i can go for multiple OSs and play with all of them, why on earth i'd limit myself to just one?
but, tmo, if u'r phone is just a phone to make calls or browse internet, native WP7 is the choice for u.
but for me.. NO. i think i'll keep my HD2
point is, i dont need to chose between WP7 and android. i can keep both.
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The OP didnt say anything about getting a native WP7 device, He was referring to using WP7 as main OS on your HD2.
@ OP
I'm contemplating keeping WP7 on my phone permanently since I can still play with Android on my Tab. I really like WP7, yes its not android (which is a great os) but its a great OS itself and runs really smooth.

I'm using WP7 on my HD2 and love it. I think WP7 is better than Android and the mature issue is getting less of an issue every day: apps are showing up every day.

is there contacts sync in wp7 sync from facebook and gmail

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is there contacts sync in wp7 sync from facebook and gmail
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Yes, you can sync facebook, gmail and other sources.

It's the only os I use & only os I would use. Not a fan of Android, so that's not an alternative. WM was great for its time, but let's face it, that time is done. WP7 is the only os for me!
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TheATHEiST said:
The OP didnt say anything about getting a native WP7 device, He was referring to using WP7 as main OS on your HD2.
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u missed my point. so i try to be more clear now.
if i keep WP7, i can taste both (and more).

JonnieLasVegas said:
It's the only os I use & only os I would use. Not a fan of Android, so that's not an alternative. WM was great for its time, but let's face it, that time is done. WP7 is the only os for me!
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dont say that!!
WM may be the ugly sister that even her parents didnt want but its a beast of an OS, there is nothing and there is unlikely to ever be an OS that can do as much as WM can. yeah it looks crap, an runs crap, but it wins hands down in every other aspect. I'd love to dual boot WM and WP, but as it is Im running WP on my day to day device and WM on the backup device, WP is so much better with the UI it just makes using it plesant, I'll not be moving back but im also unlieky to ever trully leave WM either. Droid had a look in for 6 months before WP but got board with it.

Lol, I agree WM is a beast & very friendly to us super user types. Don't get me wrong I loved it when I used it. But now I'm completely hooked on WP. But when I get a native WP I'll switch my HD2 back to WM so I can tweak it again for fun. ^_^
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I really really want to move to WP7 as my main OS however my biggest tidbits need to be fixed before I will do such. Mainly, no customization of ringtones/alert sounds (without sideloading apps, etc.)
I don't know if they corrected this in Mango but when I add my 15 year old Live ID, it intergrates all my contacts from that ID into my contact list. Same with Facebook!
I was a die hard fan of WM and Android is ok but not where my heart is. WM had lots of raw power and after playing with WP, it is really something I can see myself using.

JonnieLasVegas said:
Lol, I agree WM is a beast & very friendly to us super user types. Don't get me wrong I loved it when I used it. But now I'm completely hooked on WP. But when I get a native WP I'll switch my HD2 back to WM so I can tweak it again for fun. ^_^
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Not a bad idea that!
just need to wait for a worthwhile update to the HD2 then!
RJ45 said:
I really really want to move to WP7 as my main OS however my biggest tidbits need to be fixed before I will do such. Mainly, no customization of ringtones/alert sounds (without sideloading apps, etc.)
I don't know if they corrected this in Mango but when I add my 15 year old Live ID, it intergrates all my contacts from that ID into my contact list. Same with Facebook!
I was a die hard fan of WM and Android is ok but not where my heart is. WM had lots of raw power and after playing with WP, it is really something I can see myself using.
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Wow, you had a hotmail (HoTMaiL) account since before MS owned it, bet you there isnt many of us still kicking around! might i suggest trimming your contacts as if like mine, most of them no longer matter when going back to 1996
Facebook contacts can be removed if you dont already have that contact in you lists

I will stay definetly on WP7, I wanted to try Android, but then I heared that they are a lot of security vulnaribilities in the OS.
Aswell Apps in the Marketplace contain Malware, so I don't want to play roulette with my device...

Asking for live id and cant able so stuck back to android
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errm
im new to this, and it's my first reply on this site. and sorry if its a late reply.
i am currently running MIUI android and i love it! it's perfect for my HD2 and i am having no problems.
a few times i have flashed WP7 with 'ok' roms (not perfect) and loved it - even though i couldn't get live services and market activated.
ALSO...in the process of switching between android and WP7, it has really messed up my SD cards - even when using different ones for each OS.
but just like you, i can't live without whatsapp as i use it everyday without fail. so does anybody know if it's going to be possible to get whatapp on wp7? and i m not really following wp7 on hd2 so what stage is it at now? like stable, lots of bugs, or is there a perfect build out there?

I'm watching how Mango goes before I make a final call. Some of the features I'm looking for are hidden SSID support, SMS/call backup&restore, wifi hotspot. I use those features a lot so if they're in Mango like I've heard they are then I'll probably switch my HD2 to being a WP7 device full-time.
I have a handful of apps that I bought in Android that it looks like I'd need to re-buy but it's not more than ~15 dollars (USD) worth so I'd be okay with it.

I would move to wp7, but no wlan hotspot, no using wifi android tablet.

When I get drunk, I pull out my blackberry and trying to do anything is just a mess.
When I pull out my WP7 it makes me so glad, honestly that I can use my phone when I am drunk.

I'm actually going to test out WP7 soon and Im really hoping that mango turns out to be a success

Yes. Tried iPhone. Tried Android. Tried WP7. WP7 is for me.
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