Related
Stream TV has posted a new firmware.
http://elocitynow.com/support_downloads.shtml
Thanks for info...
Downloaded and loading now. I will report my experience with the new firmware in a while.
For anyone who has not upgraded, please let me know what the build number was on the old firmware. Nothing cosmetic, seems a little slower than the Dexter mod I was running, may have to revert back to that until something substantial occurs with the firmware. There is a new kernel if the previous one in Dexter's mod was based on the December 24th release.
I'm curious about the date of the release not changing although the description of what has changed is at the top of the page.
I just checked, it still says Dec. 24, 2010. I'm not seeing the 1/15/2011 update listed on their firmware page.
The same here ...is the file the new one or the one from December?...what is suppose to be a new build number?
It hard to say because the filename is update.zip. It would be useful if they changed the naming convention to something friendlier. Let us rename the file to update.zip. Anyway that would be a recommendation. Name the file by the release date.
It is the new firmware on the website.
Date is incorrect.
I installed but ido not see any difference...
The update is a new update. Below is the build number of the December update and the current one.
December - PBJ8000.2.0121
January 14/15 I guess depending on where you are - PBJ8000.2.0124
No visual changes, all under the hood. Ad-hoc works without modification I did notice that. I'll keep it installed since I have added the marked to it.
Still does not report external storage correctly.
Still looking for Cifs and some 3g usb dongle support. That would round it out for me.
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
rogconnect said:
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And you expected something different?
Unfortunately they can't include the Market or the google app as Google won't allow them. There is nothing they can do until Google changes the rules or releases a version of Android approved for tablets. This is the case with just about all the Android tablets currently on the Market.
I'm waiting for a ROM that includes the Market and Google Apps to be cooked up by the Devs here before I to the update.
rogconnect said:
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah if you don't understand that stream tv won't be releasing a firmware with market at least on froyo, I don't think you get it. Wait for Dexter of another dev to cook up a rom or learn how to get market on there yourself. before you start calling the updates a POS.
That said has anyone noticed any real changes? So far the only difference for me is that swype FCs on me now.
djyellowperil said:
Yeah if you don't understand that stream tv won't be releasing a firmware with market at least on froyo, I don't think you get it. Wait for Dexter of another dev to cook up a rom or learn how to get market on there yourself. before you start calling the updates a POS.
That said has anyone noticed any real changes? So far the only difference for me is that swype FCs on me now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe because of the WIFI fixes...but I am seeing much improved battery life... Before I would get about 4-5 hours... now last two days..about 6-7 hours..maybe a fluke.. but I will see over the next few days..
CPG
MyTabletLife.com
RojasTKD said:
Unfortunately they can't include the Market or the google app as Google won't allow them. There is nothing they can do until Google changes the rules or releases a version of Android approved for tablets. This is the case with just about all the Android tablets currently on the Market.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will just understand...
Is Google deny Market at any tablets with OS Android 2.2 only?
I heard Viewsonic Viewpad 7 has Google Market
Why eLocity has not?
5[Strogino] said:
I will just understand...
Is Google deny Market at any tablets with OS Android 2.2 only?
I heard Viewsonic Viewpad 7 has Google Market
Why eLocity has not?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Froyo was not designed for tablets. The only tablet, 7 inches or bigger, that comes with official market support is the galaxy tab. Well that I'm aware of being available anyway. Google is currently only approving market for phones on 2.2 and the only reason the galaxy tab got approval is a convoluted definition as a phone. or more likely in my mind some backroom dealings between samsung and google. Either way Stream TV has never promised market on the A7 and most of us jumped in knowing that. If you lost market el al by upgrading to the latest firmware that means you were previously running a mod... my guess being one of dexters since I'm not aware of any others.
It seems you were not aware that the mod you were running was not an official firmware from Stream TV and is not supported by them.
rogconnect said:
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's to be expected. You should be able to add them back pretty easy. How did you put them on there in the first place - via ElocityMod or Manually?
Billy
Can you tell me how to put the Market on my A7? I just got one and installed teh updated firmware. Looks like if I install Dexter's mod it will be going backwards on my firmware.
THX
Bob
bsedor said:
Can you tell me how to put the Market on my A7? I just got one and installed teh updated firmware. Looks like if I install Dexter's mod it will be going backwards on my firmware.
THX
Bob
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, Dexter's V1.1 is based on the latest (1/15/11) firmware. If you install that you get the latest firmware plus the Market and Gapps.
I've just spoken with Motorola Product Support Specialist Level 3 to solve on of my problem and during conversation I learn how Motorola will make update for XOOM WiFi tablet after it will become available. According to information from Motorola specialist all WiFi user will need to mail their devices to Motorola Depo and they will update you tablet and after send it back to you. So right now don't have information that update will be available over the air. Support engineers confirmed that 3G version will be updated over the air and WiFi version should be mail to Motorola Depo
I try to clarify the reason of that and got answer that size of the update it to big and becuase of WiFi version doesn't have Cell provider it's no possible to push update on the device. He doesn't sure that correct on 100%, but Motorola Product support database shows only that information.
I make request to double check that information and will post his reply here.
I'm planing to return my XOOM WiFi tablet back, because I will leave US soon and I don't need device that could be updated only via mail it somewhere and doesn't have Update over the Air.
You could check that info with Motorola support and if somebody will have another information, please share it with me. I really love my XOOM tablet and don't want to return it back, but.....
the phone reps have been giving bad info since the beginning. This isnt true.
patass said:
the phone reps have been giving bad info since the beginning. This isnt true.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I trusty would like to believe in that, but specialist told me that it was published in their database, so it's not his dreams or ideas. I understand it's stupid because Recovery menu has option to apply update and even XOOM WiFi version has special option in Settings Menu to check updates, but I also trust internal information that use Motorola Level 3 Product Support Specialist to solve customers problems.
I hope that soon they will have another information, but right now it's ugly(((
I dont understand how this would ever be the case...
Any android phone even non-activated gets OTA updates over WiFi if they're connected to a google account and a network connection. I don't know why a stock honeycomb tablet would be any different.
We'll see when it comes but I highly doubt this. I never trust a CS rep to tell me how it works.
martonikaj said:
I dont understand how this would ever be the case...
Any android phone even non-activated gets OTA updates over WiFi if they're connected to a google account and a network connection. I don't know why a stock honeycomb tablet would be any different.
We'll see when it comes but I highly doubt this. I never trust a CS rep to tell me how it works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes let's see, I also misunderstand why it, but CS rep told that non-activated tablet and WiFi version tablet should be send back to Motorola Depo. I don't want to create mess, I just trying to find the truth.
Even when it has been decided in the past not to provide the update OTA, those companies have still offered the update for downloading from their website so it can used to update manually through a computer. I see no reason why this would not be the case, at the least. I'm definitely calling BS on this one.
Worse case, the update gets leaked here with instructions and I still don't have to send it back. Would prefer not to have to go that route but whatever.
I have a non-activated 3g model and I got the last update just fine. No manufacturer is going to make a device that every time there is a software or firmware update you have to send in your device.
epakrat75 said:
Even when it has been decided in the past not to provide the update OTA, those companies have still offered the update for downloading from their website so it can used to update manually through a computer. I see no reason why this would not be the case, at the least. I'm definitely calling VS on this one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please post here their reply. I will pray that I got stupid CS rep (even level 3) and I could sleep well with my XOOM instead of pillow ))
I don't believe this for one minute. At the very least we should be able to download it on our PC and then sideload it from I would think.
jpricesd said:
I don't believe this for one minute. At the very least we should be able to download it on our PC and then sideload it from I would think.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Call them and check it. I got information the right now only 2 option to update 3G over the air and WiFi and Non-activated via Motorola Depo (((
there's nothing to verify, the guy you talked to just wanted you off the phone so he could get back to getting paid for doing nothing.
no matter what the rep said its impossible that you will have to mail it in. it would be a financial disaster for moto. All updates will be OTA except 4g upgrade.
source: Level 5 common sense.
Kozdoba said:
I've just spoken with Motorola Product Support Specialist Level 3 to solve on of my problem and during conversation I learn how Motorola will make update for XOOM WiFi tablet after it will become available. According to information from Motorola specialist all WiFi user will need to mail their devices to Motorola Depo and they will update you tablet and after send it back to you. So right now don't have information that update will be available over the air. Support engineers confirmed that 3G version will be updated over the air and WiFi version should be mail to Motorola Depo
I try to clarify the reason of that and got answer that size of the update it to big and becuase of WiFi version doesn't have Cell provider it's no possible to push update on the device. He doesn't sure that correct on 100%, but Motorola Product support database shows only that information.
I make request to double check that information and will post his reply here.
I'm planing to return my XOOM WiFi tablet back, because I will leave US soon and I don't need device that could be updated only via mail it somewhere and doesn't have Update over the Air.
You could check that info with Motorola support and if somebody will have another information, please share it with me. I really love my XOOM tablet and don't want to return it back, but.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There seems to be no validity to this claim. The fact of the matter is, if you had to send your device in everytime an update was pushed then you would be sending it in almost every 2 months or so at the expense of Motorola.
Chances are that you got a rep that has no clue what he was talking about. They will find your device, they still have that ability due to the fact that sniffing it out with a unique number should still work. It will update from their servers and your device will boot into recovery just like wiping the device fully does.
Ignore th antics of your rep you spoke with, because even if you HAVE to send it is.... someone will post it online no matter what.
Yea right ... in this world where you can buy gigabyte games online and download them and watch HD movies streamed, Motorola will ask all for the wifi tablet to be returned every time it has a major update. It sounds like it was crafted to give it as much credibility as possible.
The old adage applies:
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
A post on a blog does not "extraordinary evidence" make
That's such a ridiculous idea.
erzhik said:
no matter what the rep said its impossible that you will have to mail it in. it would be a financial disaster for moto. All updates will be OTA except 4g upgrade.
source: Level 5 common sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree this can't be true...and if somehow wifi version isn't upgradeable via OTA(which I find next to impossible. I am sure that they would rather post it on their site rather then have people send it in...
Also is it the device that doesn't support sd cards or honeycomb? because I thought Google pushed all honeycomb updates.
This is not true at all, ALL 3G NON ACTIVATED xooms got the 3.01 update Via wifi meaning all wifi models will get the update just the same.
total BS. A Rep told me that you would get an update when connected. And she also mentioned that she was an alien from outerspace.
man can u imagine if everyone did have to send there xoom in to get it updated? They would have to have a hole frign factory the size of 4 football fields designated just to updating these xooms. Itd have to be easyer just to ota it. I may be exaggerating a lil about the football field but you know what I meen. Sounds like a big fluster cluck to me hard telling when or if you would get it back.
I agree that this idea completely stupid and ridicules. I also try to argue with CS rep, but he stay on his point. That coming update will be like i describe in OP based on the information that he could see in Moto data base.
Again I hope that my CS rep was stupid and wrong.
So, does anybody know if:
1. The update (Acer_A500_1.139.04_COM_GEN1) actually does anything to improve our Iconia's
2. Is the update for US WiFi Iconias?
From what i read the update in another thread is it will not come to the US but we are receiving the 3.1 update first week of June...How true that is i dont know.
I do hope we get some updates here tho...The transformer has already had multiple updates and so has the xoom. The iconia is a great tablet but like everyother product it does have its issues. I wish we had more support or atleast communication from acer.
See here: REQUEST: Acer_A500_1.139.05_COM_GEN1 - a few posts down.
I don't know which countries "COM" translates to, but EMEA is "Europe, Middle East, Africa", which already covers quite a bit of the blue ball, leaving the Americas, Australia, Asia, etc. So yes, it is a good guess that "COM" covers the US, or you could read through My device just OTA updated looking which countries posters reporting COM-fiirmwares come from.
well i was bored and so i went to acer and talked to their online support chat...
The summary of the conversation was..he said the honeycomb update 3.1 will be released "approximately second week of june" and the 139.02 firmware update said would be in a couple days for the US.
So i guess we'll see...
newtonfb said:
From what i read the update in another thread is it will not come to the US but we are receiving the 3.1 update first week of June...How true that is i dont know.
I do hope we get some updates here tho...The transformer has already had multiple updates and so has the xoom. The iconia is a great tablet but like everyother product it does have its issues. I wish we had more support or atleast communication from acer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for answering and yes, I wish there was more communication. From my own experience, companies that do not talk to their customers are doomed - Acer is not setting a good precedent (I noticed in another thread that some clown in their tech service claims that they do not support 3rd party apps - so why do they include the app market in their buils and why do they allow installation of 3rd party apps).
I trust that they will get their act together otherwise they will just be a footnote on the Android tablet scene.
Did they happen to mention what the firmware update changes? Wifi issues, gps, sleep issue?
I have noticed ever since I downloaded market apps, the sleep issue has shown up.
update from acer support (not really an update)
Akhil Retnan: Hi, my name is Akhil Retnan. How may I help you?
xxxxxxx: Hi, good afternoon.
Akhil Retnan: Good afternoon xxxxxxx.
Akhil Retnan: xxxxxxx, may I know the serial number or SNID of your Acer product?
xxxxxxx: I am at work, Currently do not have my tablet here with me.
xxxxxxx: My question is will the next firmware update fix gps issues, sleep/wake issues, video issues? If so, when is this firmware update suppose to be issued?
Akhil Retnan: I understand that you would like to know whether any firmware update will get released soon for the Acer Iconia A500.
xxxxxxxx: Yes
xxxxxxxx: And what will the firmware update change?
xxxxxxxx: There is a lack of communication from Acer in regards to your updates. Every other tablet on the market that runs honeycomb has updates out already.
Akhil Retnan: xxxxxxx, as of we do not have information about firmware update.
Akhil Retnan: Once a firmware update is released it will be available in the website.
xxxxxxxx: So there is no timeline for updates from Acer?
Akhil Retnan: Unfortunately, we do not have any information about the firmware update available now.
docfreed said:
Thanks for answering and yes, I wish there was more communication. From my own experience, companies that do not talk to their customers are doomed - Acer is not setting a good precedent (I noticed in another thread that some clown in their tech service claims that they do not support 3rd party apps - so why do they include the app market in their buils and why do they allow installation of 3rd party apps).
I trust that they will get their act together otherwise they will just be a footnote on the Android tablet scene.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure he probably meant they don't provide support for 3rd party apps.
A short great news from Engadget China.
it seems an engadget writer got an internal message from ASUS: Android 3.1 is expected to be released within next week, or even, as early as Tuesday.
source: http://cn.engadget.com/2011/05/27/android-3-1-eee-pad-transformer/
Android 3.1 newfeatures:
-UI refinements
-Connectivity for USB accessories
-Expanded Recent Apps list
-Resizeable Home screen widgets
-Support for external keyboards and pointing devices
-Support for joysticks and gamepads
-Robust Wi-Fi networking
-new browser, calendar, contact and email version
-Performance optimizations
etc.
I just got a brand new Transformer yesterday, turned it on and the first thing it did was ask me to update.
I'm almost certain it was to 3.1, I'll check when I get home tonight, but I have already been using the USB ports on it so it would have to be 3.1 wouldn't it?
I'll let you know once I check the version.
Sweet! That is something to look forward too!
nlhall said:
I'm almost certain it was to 3.1, I'll check when I get home tonight, but I have already been using the USB ports on it so it would have to be 3.1 wouldn't it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No - the USB ports on the dock already work with 3.0.1 for many devices, so that isn't an indicator.
Chances are that your update is just the one released earlier this month, because your TF was probably on a boat on its way from China at that point in time!
Regards,
Dave
nlhall said:
I just got a brand new Transformer yesterday, turned it on and the first thing it did was ask me to update.
I'm almost certain it was to 3.1, I'll check when I get home tonight, but I have already been using the USB ports on it so it would have to be 3.1 wouldn't it?
I'll let you know once I check the version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If its a new Transformer, then the update is most likely the Asus Firmware update rather than Honeycomb 3.1 (sorry to bring rain to a parade)
I received mine yesterday, as soon as when I connected to Wifi, I got the update which is 3.0.1.
I highly doubt its out next Tuesday. Especially after what Asus stated on Facebook a few days ago about the release schedule.
Could be, actually: there's a French review video showing 3.1 running on a TF. So, if it's far enough along to be sent on a review unit, it could very well be close to release.
I'll say, if they DO release it as early as next week (or even just within the first 10 days or so of June), then I'll be even more impressed with how Asus is supporting the TF so far.
Interesting update notif
This morning when I woke up, the device was kind a slow. I did a reboot. When it came on, I got an triangle icon with ! mark within saying that there is system update avail, click for update kind of thing.
I right away clicked it. It shown as downloading system update something but then it disappeared pretty quick. I went into system info page but not seeing anything news in term of android, firmware, wifi, bluetooth.... Did several force update request but nothing. So that was an interesting event.
Not sure if it was a internal Google update (map, music..) as we have heard several days now or Asus posted the OTA Android 3.1 for a quick test and pulled it out right away or something.
Anyway, leave a note here in case anyone else had it too.
With my TF being rooted and running custom ROM and kernel I am at the grace of the devs here anyway to release a modified 3.1
cant wait, ive seen it run on xoom, only a week away.....WOW....... not bad on asus' behalf getting the update out quick
jms_uk said:
If its a new Transformer, then the update is most likely the Asus Firmware update rather than Honeycomb 3.1 (sorry to bring rain to a parade)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry fellas, you are quite right, it must have been the firmware update, I'm running 3.0.1, oh well, bring on 3.1 next week
vista1984 said:
Android 3.1 newfeatures:
-UI refinements
-Connectivity for USB accessories
-Expanded Recent Apps list
-Resizeable Home screen widgets
-Support for external keyboards and pointing devices
-Support for joysticks and gamepads
-Robust Wi-Fi networking
-new browser, calendar, contact and email version
-Performance optimizations
etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Even, as early as Tuesday?" Can't wait!
This is available for all countries right?
I was under the impression that support for external keyboards/mice was an ICS feature. Are we sure this is going to be in 3.1? (If so, that's fantastic)
kingkay said:
"Even, as early as Tuesday?" Can't wait!
This is available for all countries right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will likely be released market by market so US will get it first then others, same principle as other updates.
*Daedalus said:
I was under the impression that support for external keyboards/mice was an ICS feature. Are we sure this is going to be in 3.1? (If so, that's fantastic)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, it's a honeycomb feature.
Is the 3.1 OTA release for Canadian Xooms out yet? I've seen plenty of talk that it was delayed back in may, but I have not read of anyone in Canada getting it yet. These HC updates are getting to be a royal PITA on several different tablets.
Rob
Noting official yet, Only Japan then China got it, they release it in Australia with major screw-ups then pulled it, I am starting to wonder if it will ever come out, rumors of Xoom 2, Google has released 3.2 and we don't even have 3.1. as soon as I know there is a safe way I am going to install the US version, Screw Motorola, good hardware **** support, will never buy another Motorola product,
I've been running the US version since the Xoom came out in Canada.
robbiev80 said:
I've been running the US version since the Xoom came out in Canada.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like a plan! I'll do a full backup of course beforehand so I can restore if I want to do OTA.
Rob
I didn't get the update as of yesterday. Finally got fed up with waiting and flashes to the US version and now running 3.2. In my opinion there's nothing to keep it in the Canadian version currently.
jhychin said:
I didn't get the update as of yesterday. Finally got fed up with waiting and flashes to the US version and now running 3.2. In my opinion there's nothing to keep it in the Canadian version currently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Besides your warranty of course, i doubt anything will go wrong but just in case. If i have to wait on motorola for ICS im rooting and flashing to US firmware right away.
Tired of waiting
Spent the past few weeks perched like a hawk in the Moto thread, hoping --nay, praying-- for the 3.1 update so that the Moto bluetooth keyboard issue with stuck keys (often the backspace key!) is fixed.
Finally said the hell with it on Friday and flashed the US "Google Experience" ROM, then got 3.1 and 3.2 in succession within about a half-hour. Keyboard works, SD works, it's a bit zippier, and I even have Google Videos and Books to boot. (Although I can't actually buy anything with them yet, just get the free books and play my own videos.)
Although the fact that I need to connect to my Windows to transfer files to the SD irks me a bit (I'm a Linux user), for the most part I'm pretty happy with the switchover.
Myrddhin said:
Spent the past few weeks perched like a hawk in the Moto thread, hoping --nay, praying-- for the 3.1 update so that the Moto bluetooth keyboard issue with stuck keys (often the backspace key!) is fixed.
Finally said the hell with it on Friday and flashed the US "Google Experience" ROM, then got 3.1 and 3.2 in succession within about a half-hour. Keyboard works, SD works, it's a bit zippier, and I even have Google Videos and Books to boot. (Although I can't actually buy anything with them yet, just get the free books and play my own videos.)
Although the fact that I need to connect to my Windows to transfer files to the SD irks me a bit (I'm a Linux user), for the most part I'm pretty happy with the switchover.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Install an app called "USB Mass Storage Watcher OTG". I use that to mount my SD card in Ubuntu. I haven't tested it for 3.2 but it should work.
edit: looks like the 3.2 tiamat kernel may not yet support it.
Myrddhin said:
Spent the past few weeks perched like a hawk in the Moto thread, hoping --nay, praying-- for the 3.1 update so that the Moto bluetooth keyboard issue with stuck keys (often the backspace key!) is fixed.
Finally said the hell with it on Friday and flashed the US "Google Experience" ROM, then got 3.1 and 3.2 in succession within about a half-hour. Keyboard works, SD works, it's a bit zippier, and I even have Google Videos and Books to boot. (Although I can't actually buy anything with them yet, just get the free books and play my own videos.)
Although the fact that I need to connect to my Windows to transfer files to the SD irks me a bit (I'm a Linux user), for the most part I'm pretty happy with the switchover.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you flashed the 3.01 US WiFi rom and then you got the other updates OTA? Or did you manually flash those as well?
Rob
Just to follow up, I installed the US 3.01 stock image downloaded from the Motorolla dev site.
At first I tried to do the flashing from WinXP running in a VirtualBox VM, but that did not work. So I tried again with my Win7 laptop and that went a lot better. All the software to do this is a bit time consuming to install though... 3.1 and 3.2 updates came through OTA and my Xoom is now running 3.2.
I am disappointed there is no write ability to the sd card at this time.
Rob
silverball.slayer said:
Just to follow up, I installed the US 3.01 stock image downloaded from the Motorolla dev site.
At first I tried to do the flashing from WinXP running in a VirtualBox VM, but that did not work. So I tried again with my Win7 laptop and that went a lot better. All the software to do this is a bit time consuming to install though... 3.1 and 3.2 updates came through OTA and my Xoom is now running 3.2.
I am disappointed there is no write ability to the sd card at this time.
Rob
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BigRushDog will have a fix don't worry!