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Elocuty A7 New Firmware posted 1-15-11

Stream TV has posted a new firmware.
http://elocitynow.com/support_downloads.shtml

Thanks for info...

Downloaded and loading now. I will report my experience with the new firmware in a while.
For anyone who has not upgraded, please let me know what the build number was on the old firmware. Nothing cosmetic, seems a little slower than the Dexter mod I was running, may have to revert back to that until something substantial occurs with the firmware. There is a new kernel if the previous one in Dexter's mod was based on the December 24th release.
I'm curious about the date of the release not changing although the description of what has changed is at the top of the page.

I just checked, it still says Dec. 24, 2010. I'm not seeing the 1/15/2011 update listed on their firmware page.

The same here ...is the file the new one or the one from December?...what is suppose to be a new build number?

It hard to say because the filename is update.zip. It would be useful if they changed the naming convention to something friendlier. Let us rename the file to update.zip. Anyway that would be a recommendation. Name the file by the release date.

It is the new firmware on the website.
Date is incorrect.

I installed but ido not see any difference...

The update is a new update. Below is the build number of the December update and the current one.
December - PBJ8000.2.0121
January 14/15 I guess depending on where you are - PBJ8000.2.0124
No visual changes, all under the hood. Ad-hoc works without modification I did notice that. I'll keep it installed since I have added the marked to it.
Still does not report external storage correctly.
Still looking for Cifs and some 3g usb dongle support. That would round it out for me.

POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....

rogconnect said:
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
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And you expected something different?
Unfortunately they can't include the Market or the google app as Google won't allow them. There is nothing they can do until Google changes the rules or releases a version of Android approved for tablets. This is the case with just about all the Android tablets currently on the Market.
I'm waiting for a ROM that includes the Market and Google Apps to be cooked up by the Devs here before I to the update.

rogconnect said:
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
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Yeah if you don't understand that stream tv won't be releasing a firmware with market at least on froyo, I don't think you get it. Wait for Dexter of another dev to cook up a rom or learn how to get market on there yourself. before you start calling the updates a POS.
That said has anyone noticed any real changes? So far the only difference for me is that swype FCs on me now.

djyellowperil said:
Yeah if you don't understand that stream tv won't be releasing a firmware with market at least on froyo, I don't think you get it. Wait for Dexter of another dev to cook up a rom or learn how to get market on there yourself. before you start calling the updates a POS.
That said has anyone noticed any real changes? So far the only difference for me is that swype FCs on me now.
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Maybe because of the WIFI fixes...but I am seeing much improved battery life... Before I would get about 4-5 hours... now last two days..about 6-7 hours..maybe a fluke.. but I will see over the next few days..
CPG
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RojasTKD said:
Unfortunately they can't include the Market or the google app as Google won't allow them. There is nothing they can do until Google changes the rules or releases a version of Android approved for tablets. This is the case with just about all the Android tablets currently on the Market.
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I will just understand...
Is Google deny Market at any tablets with OS Android 2.2 only?
I heard Viewsonic Viewpad 7 has Google Market
Why eLocity has not?

5[Strogino] said:
I will just understand...
Is Google deny Market at any tablets with OS Android 2.2 only?
I heard Viewsonic Viewpad 7 has Google Market
Why eLocity has not?
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Froyo was not designed for tablets. The only tablet, 7 inches or bigger, that comes with official market support is the galaxy tab. Well that I'm aware of being available anyway. Google is currently only approving market for phones on 2.2 and the only reason the galaxy tab got approval is a convoluted definition as a phone. or more likely in my mind some backroom dealings between samsung and google. Either way Stream TV has never promised market on the A7 and most of us jumped in knowing that. If you lost market el al by upgrading to the latest firmware that means you were previously running a mod... my guess being one of dexters since I'm not aware of any others.
It seems you were not aware that the mod you were running was not an official firmware from Stream TV and is not supported by them.

rogconnect said:
POS updates...market and google apps are gone after the updates.....
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That's to be expected. You should be able to add them back pretty easy. How did you put them on there in the first place - via ElocityMod or Manually?
Billy

Can you tell me how to put the Market on my A7? I just got one and installed teh updated firmware. Looks like if I install Dexter's mod it will be going backwards on my firmware.
THX
Bob

bsedor said:
Can you tell me how to put the Market on my A7? I just got one and installed teh updated firmware. Looks like if I install Dexter's mod it will be going backwards on my firmware.
THX
Bob
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No, Dexter's V1.1 is based on the latest (1/15/11) firmware. If you install that you get the latest firmware plus the Market and Gapps.

[Q] Extracting APKs from 3.1 roms...possible?

Hey all,
I am not a dev, I just dabble. Anyone try extracting any of the apks from the 3.1 sdk or Xoom? I am not sure if the USB connectivity is modular like that, but that could be useful until Acer gets off its a**.
I know dc13 bricked after trying to flash the Xoom rom, but is what I ask even feasible?

This is not a bump, but I think this is a valid topic. Anyone get any real good looks at the apks included with 3.1 on the xoom or in the sdk? I don't own one anymore so I can't check it and I currently do not have access to my computers to try the sdk.

How easy is it to root a Xoom? is it as easy as it was for us? if that is the case, I could probably go to a best buy, root it, and then do a system dump to my dropbox...logoff and leave >_>

I don't know if it is that easy to root, but I really appreciate the reply and willingness.

No one I know owns a tablet apart from iPad or ipad2. I am actually the first of my friends to have an Android tablet and around school, all I see are apple products. The good thing is that the best buy is like 5 minutes from my university, so it's no hassle going in. Plus the staff there is nice, so they won't mind =P

Theres a real easy one click root available for the xoom. I've got mine rooted and overclocked to 1.6 ghz along with having the sdcard slot working and usb hosting enabled.

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dhruvmp said:
Hey all,
I am not a dev, I just dabble. Anyone try extracting any of the apks from the 3.1 sdk or Xoom? I am not sure if the USB connectivity is modular like that, but that could be useful until Acer gets off its a**.
I know dc13 bricked after trying to flash the Xoom rom, but is what I ask even feasible?
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Endgadget report today that Acer will release Android 3.1 next month
So my advice is stop tinkering with OS and wait for the update.

Android 3.1 Port

Has anyone tried porting the Android 3.1 system.img from the SDK to the A500 yet?

I want to say it was sp3dev that tried flashing the xoom 3.1 images and ended up bricking his tablet, so note sure if anyone has tried it again.

I'm thinking of having a gom but I only just got this tablet today. Is there a recovery ROM image that I can use to reflash the tablet in case of brickage?

dr1337 said:
I'm thinking of having a gom but I only just got this tablet today. Is there a recovery ROM image that I can use to reflash the tablet in case of brickage?
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No recovery yet as the bootloader is still locked.
Acer will issue an official update in the next couple of weeks, so why risk it? There's no rush.

Bragging rights......jk
I actually would like a clean system.img without the Acer bloatware too.

You can use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14076075&postcount=2
to fully restore to stock US.

I recommend that 'how to' for recovering the tablet be placed in the HOW TO thread, and that thread be stickied.

dhruvmp said:
I want to say it was sp3dev that tried flashing the xoom 3.1 images and ended up bricking his tablet, so note sure if anyone has tried it again.
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:facepalm:
Me? No, it was not me. Meh, i don't care for ****roid and the only thing i want to flash is a proper distro like ubuntu or fedora.

Would be interesting to see what the logcat dump produced to try and work out the incompatibilities.

FloatingFatMan said:
No recovery yet as the bootloader is still locked.
Acer will issue an official update in the next couple of weeks, so why risk it? There's no rush.
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+1 on that...if acer sticks to a June time frame of getting 3.1 to us then it would be a better deal...thats just around the corner and there will be less bugs getting an update (at least i hope so) from the maufacturer then trying to port it from a different device. compared to the g-tab that i had...this thing runs pretty dam good with stock rooted Rom and bloatwate removed...once we get official 3.1 update with mouse and additional peripheral support...then thats gonna make that much sweeter.
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One thing to think before
Same for me once I removed those crap apps from Acer.I guess Acer will never learn about putting their own apps to blingbling the whole tablet. I don't need slow beautiful tablet I need an overboosted one They build slow PCs, they build slow laptops, slow tablets and I guess slow mobiles phones too and once you make a clean instal on it, oooohhhhh wonder its works like a rocket ------->>>>>>>>>
I guess it s marketing ... selling slow things so that people buy a new one earlier.
And then the other trouble that I m expecting to come......
I m not sure about it but in some threads they telling that if some apps are missing on
our tablet update won't work.
Ok, we know how to revert back to original Acer tablet and do the update to remove again those crap apps again wth....????
Atleast it s not nessecary to hack Acer laptop and PC to instal windows again.
What we need is bootloader from Acer or from a Dev if Acer won't, updates are secondary.
I don t trust them since they could make updates to prevent installing custom roms like
Apple with their never ending we need to block jailbreaking attempts
So be careful about those updates........

3.1 original
I would wait for 3.1, the problems of getting it from another tab would not be worth it.
It should be here hopefully this week sometime!!!

It has been reported that if your device was EVER rooted you wont have access to Google movies on market...even after factory reset/flashing stock rom...fyi this was on xoom. Not sure how much truth there is to this, but I'm not chancing it.

gmpdmd said:
It has been reported that if your device was EVER rooted you wont have access to Google movies on market...even after factory reset/flashing stock rom...fyi this was on xoom. Not sure how much truth there is to this, but I'm not chancing it.
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Being fearful is the safer option... but you really should think this through clearly. How would they know if your tablet has EVER been rooted? Do they store the information on their servers? If so, what about when someone buys your tablet second hand? Are they denied from the movie market forever? Is the tablet forever "poisoned"?
The above scenario is the only way they could know as all traces of being rooted can easily be removed from the tablet itself... that is the nature of having root after all; total control.
Again, if you are fearful or uncertain, do not do anything to your tablet. Please do not spread your fear amongst others though because someone will soon be quoting you and claiming that "they" can tell if your tablet has ever been rooted. As you have already said, " It has been reported that...". Reported by whom? There is no answer. Did they verify the mechanism that testifies that the tablet has EVER been rooted? There is no answer.
It is fine to ask a question but as soon as you say, "it has been reported", then you are spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Bad newbie. No cookie for you.

strikethree said:
Being fearful is the safer option... but you really should think this through clearly. How would they know if your tablet has EVER been rooted? Do they store the information on their servers? If so, what about when someone buys your tablet second hand? Are they denied from the movie market forever? Is the tablet forever "poisoned"?
The above scenario is the only way they could know as all traces of being rooted can easily be removed from the tablet itself... that is the nature of having root after all; total control.
Again, if you are fearful or uncertain, do not do anything to your tablet. Please do not spread your fear amongst others though because someone will soon be quoting you and claiming that "they" can tell if your tablet has ever been rooted. As you have already said, " It has been reported that...". Reported by whom? There is no answer. Did they verify the mechanism that testifies that the tablet has EVER been rooted? There is no answer.
It is fine to ask a question but as soon as you say, "it has been reported", then you are spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Bad newbie. No cookie for you.
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Post is on Droid Life...what I consider a reputable source. I cant post links yet. Go to site and search for "xoom google movies" Its second post down. I'm no noob...rooted many phones and tabs...just new too posting here. Sorry I did not provide link initially

Since Google Movies is about the most expensive way of watching video currently available, I'm not at all concerned over their decision to block rooted devices.

I've wondered this before about cell phones and tablets. I figured it would be more of a carrier thing, wanting to keep everyone in check on device warranties. The capability is certainly there on a carrier based device to simply track the sw version (mods) and root status. I figured it would come up at some point when there was a compelling enough reason for someone to make decisions based on that info. Hopefully it will be limited to content providers, such as in this case. I don't know that there is a need for fear and panic, just more for us all to think about before rooting. I thought about this before rooting my first phone, but also decided that rooting was a better way to avoid bloatware, etc. Until they cut my service for rooting, I'll always seek a better experience on my phone or tablet. Apparently there has been no compelling business reason for them to do that as of yet. Movie licensing is understandable, I'm 100% behind copyright protections. Just one more consideration before rooting a tablet.
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Android 3.1 OTA might be released next week.

A short great news from Engadget China.
it seems an engadget writer got an internal message from ASUS: Android 3.1 is expected to be released within next week, or even, as early as Tuesday.
source: http://cn.engadget.com/2011/05/27/android-3-1-eee-pad-transformer/
Android 3.1 newfeatures:
-UI refinements
-Connectivity for USB accessories
-Expanded Recent Apps list
-Resizeable Home screen widgets
-Support for external keyboards and pointing devices
-Support for joysticks and gamepads
-Robust Wi-Fi networking
-new browser, calendar, contact and email version
-Performance optimizations
etc.

I just got a brand new Transformer yesterday, turned it on and the first thing it did was ask me to update.
I'm almost certain it was to 3.1, I'll check when I get home tonight, but I have already been using the USB ports on it so it would have to be 3.1 wouldn't it?
I'll let you know once I check the version.

Sweet! That is something to look forward too!

nlhall said:
I'm almost certain it was to 3.1, I'll check when I get home tonight, but I have already been using the USB ports on it so it would have to be 3.1 wouldn't it?
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No - the USB ports on the dock already work with 3.0.1 for many devices, so that isn't an indicator.
Chances are that your update is just the one released earlier this month, because your TF was probably on a boat on its way from China at that point in time!
Regards,
Dave

nlhall said:
I just got a brand new Transformer yesterday, turned it on and the first thing it did was ask me to update.
I'm almost certain it was to 3.1, I'll check when I get home tonight, but I have already been using the USB ports on it so it would have to be 3.1 wouldn't it?
I'll let you know once I check the version.
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If its a new Transformer, then the update is most likely the Asus Firmware update rather than Honeycomb 3.1 (sorry to bring rain to a parade)

I received mine yesterday, as soon as when I connected to Wifi, I got the update which is 3.0.1.

I highly doubt its out next Tuesday. Especially after what Asus stated on Facebook a few days ago about the release schedule.

Could be, actually: there's a French review video showing 3.1 running on a TF. So, if it's far enough along to be sent on a review unit, it could very well be close to release.
I'll say, if they DO release it as early as next week (or even just within the first 10 days or so of June), then I'll be even more impressed with how Asus is supporting the TF so far.

Interesting update notif
This morning when I woke up, the device was kind a slow. I did a reboot. When it came on, I got an triangle icon with ! mark within saying that there is system update avail, click for update kind of thing.
I right away clicked it. It shown as downloading system update something but then it disappeared pretty quick. I went into system info page but not seeing anything news in term of android, firmware, wifi, bluetooth.... Did several force update request but nothing. So that was an interesting event.
Not sure if it was a internal Google update (map, music..) as we have heard several days now or Asus posted the OTA Android 3.1 for a quick test and pulled it out right away or something.
Anyway, leave a note here in case anyone else had it too.

With my TF being rooted and running custom ROM and kernel I am at the grace of the devs here anyway to release a modified 3.1

cant wait, ive seen it run on xoom, only a week away.....WOW....... not bad on asus' behalf getting the update out quick

jms_uk said:
If its a new Transformer, then the update is most likely the Asus Firmware update rather than Honeycomb 3.1 (sorry to bring rain to a parade)
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Sorry fellas, you are quite right, it must have been the firmware update, I'm running 3.0.1, oh well, bring on 3.1 next week

vista1984 said:
Android 3.1 newfeatures:
-UI refinements
-Connectivity for USB accessories
-Expanded Recent Apps list
-Resizeable Home screen widgets
-Support for external keyboards and pointing devices
-Support for joysticks and gamepads
-Robust Wi-Fi networking
-new browser, calendar, contact and email version
-Performance optimizations
etc.
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"Even, as early as Tuesday?" Can't wait!
This is available for all countries right?

I was under the impression that support for external keyboards/mice was an ICS feature. Are we sure this is going to be in 3.1? (If so, that's fantastic)

kingkay said:
"Even, as early as Tuesday?" Can't wait!
This is available for all countries right?
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It will likely be released market by market so US will get it first then others, same principle as other updates.

*Daedalus said:
I was under the impression that support for external keyboards/mice was an ICS feature. Are we sure this is going to be in 3.1? (If so, that's fantastic)
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Nope, it's a honeycomb feature.

Does Netflix Still Work on Iconia A500?

Hey there you sexy people. I'm looking at buying a tablet, but if I'm going to purchase a tablet it *must* support Netflix streaming; this is my most desired feature. My second most desired feature is a full-size USB port, so woohoo for the Iconia!
When the unofficial (hacked) APKs came out I know people had some luck with it working on the device. My question is, does it still work, or has Netflix killed it with a server-side update?
I'm specifically looking for answers from people who have recently tried it within the last few days (or are able to try it right now).
If anyone cares to add to the discussion aside from Netflix, feel free to tell me what made you happy or angry about the A500. I know the Android 3.1 release being pushed back over and over is a big one. I'd like to hear if you are glad with your choice in tablet.
Thank you all!

msullivan said:
When the unofficial (hacked) APKs came out I know people had some luck with it working on the device. My question is, does it still work, or has Netflix killed it with a server-side update?
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even the hacked apk's never worked. They were mislabeled as working on that thread. i've been trying just about every hour of every day to get the market version as well as every release thats been put up on the internet along w/ build.prop modifying to get this thing rocking netflix... but alas it still isn't working.
aaaanyway, thats not to say it wont work anytime soon but the only tablet it works awesome on to my knowledge is the ipad, and i'm not counting 7" tablets because i just dont care enough about them to look into them.
and to dive deeper into what you posted about the only real gripe i have for this a500 is that its heavy, you get used to it after a while but at first its crazy heavy. Partly the size has to do w/ the usb port i'm sure, making it thicker which is unfortunate but the weight... i have no idea where its coming from after playing around w/ the galaxy tab for a bit.
good times, hope you find a tablet that works for you.

From my understanding regarding the Netflix app (this is compiled from reading many threads on the subject):
Tablets based on Android 2.3.3 seems to work fine.
Tablets based on Android 2.3.4 is a hit or miss proposition, mostly miss. The ones that don't work either have no playback or playback is at a faster speed ("the chipmunk effect" as some call it).
Tablets based on Android launches, but doesn't playback at all (at least up to 3.0.1...don't know about 3.1, will have to read the threads again). Usually says the device is unsupported.
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even the hacked apk's never worked. They were mislabeled as working on that thread. i've been trying just about every hour of every day to get the market version as well as every release thats been put up on the internet along w/ build.prop modifying to get this thing rocking netflix... but alas it still isn't working.
aaaanyway, thats not to say it wont work anytime soon but the only tablet it works awesome on to my knowledge is the ipad, and i'm not counting 7" tablets because i just dont care enough about them to look into them.
and to dive deeper into what you posted about the only real gripe i have for this a500 is that its heavy, you get used to it after a while but at first its crazy heavy. Partly the size has to do w/ the usb port i'm sure, making it thicker which is unfortunate but the weight... i have no idea where its coming from after playing around w/ the galaxy tab for a bit.
good times, hope you find a tablet that works for you.
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I was unaware of both of these things; thank you for your input, gentlemen!

i wish
In Honeycomb 3.0 Netflix does not even show up in the market on the a500 - none of the modified versions out there seem to work. Tried a million of them.
After flashing the unofficial advance leak of 3.1 for the Iconica - Netflix does show in market, everything works except actually watching anything - bombs out with a 12001 : cannot connect to server.
I would guess support will be added soon - perhaps around the time 3.1 becomes official.