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[Q] Can the vibrant be overclocked yet?

Is it possible to overclock our vibrant yet? I see my CPU is only running at 800MHz but its a gig processor?

It's set to run from 100-1000, so at any given time when you look, it's probably somewhere in the middle. When some app needs more cpu, the system will adjust the speed for you. There is an oc kernel, but it's not quite stable yet.

Me need overclock
No actually, me just need FROYO

I've been running the overclocked kernel posted at the link below for about a week without issues.
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744655
Combined with the lag fix in 'UPDATE 3' by anomalous3 in the following post, I've been consistently getting Quadrant scores above 2500.
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749649
Note: I had to x-out the http above because it won't let me post links.

Low Quadrant scores on over clocked kernel

Im only scoring mid 900's, is that normal?
Swyped from a fascinating over clocked droid using XDA App

Well it'd help if we knew how many mhz overclocked the kernel you're using is. But in most cases, if you're not on Voodoo and on an overclocked kernel, a 900 score sounds about right.

I'm going to guess it hangs up at the i/o test, correct?

SirGatez's blazing eclair voodoo kernels seem to score low on quadrant. Is that what your using?
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Skrazz said:
I'm going to guess it hangs up at the i/o test, correct?
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You know what, it never did until just today, why's that?
Kernel is in Signature, Geeknik Stupid fast Test Kernel 12.19.10, 1150mhz

Quadrant scores are harmed by rfs, the default filesystem on SGS devices.
Voodoo5 converts everything to ext4, which dramatically improves that section of the test.
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Quadrant scores in the 800-900 range are common without the Voodoo lag fix installed. As Alex pointed out, the RFS filesystem causes lots of write lag, which significantly drags down the Quadrant score (if you had the full version of Quadrant, you'd see that). With Voodoo converting the filesystem to ext4, you'll see your Quadrant score practically double. Unfortunately, Quadrant doesn't use tests that are equal to all types of CPU architectures, filesystems, etc., so the results aren't really a fair comparison of real world performance.
Smartbench 2010 is much more accurate, according to everything I've read, although they're having a little trouble with it getting accurate readings on the Galaxy S series for some reason. They're working on it though, and will likely have an updated version soon that will fairly test the Galaxy S series alongside all other Android phones.

Quadrant benchmarks

Can someone explain exactly what it really means?
I know the higher the number the better your phone is working but beyond that i have no clue
I consistently get 2080 to 2250 on cm7 nightly 30 running ondemand governor min 368 max 1.3ghz. Im assuming thats respectable?
I ran it once on performance governor at 1.5ghz and got about 2500 on benchmark.
sent from the rooty tooty fresh and fruity cm7 nighly powered G2

This is the best score out of a series of three I ran right after flashing Cm6.1.1 and cranking setcpu up to max. I'm sure that this would run perfectly well at these speeds for day to day on his kernel, but I usually only run at around 1113mhz. The g2 is plenty fast on its stock 800mhz with fantastic battery life, don't get me wrong. But what the hell is the point of all this rooting and rom flashing wagoonery if I don't give myself a slight performance bump.
*Epenis waving*

At 1.5ghz max and 368 min (on-demand governor) with CM7 and Pershoot's latest kernel (I believe he incorporated the new GPU drivers), I get 2700-2800. Quadrant tests your CPU, memory, and GPU performance.
As for Quadrant I tend to find it unreliable, for benchmarks I use Smartbench 2011. Seems a bit more reasonable. Makes you realize how underpowered our GPU's is compared to the PowerVR SGX540.

And what is the gpu?
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tackleberry said:
And what is the gpu?
sent from the rooty tooty fresh and fruity cm7 nighly powered G2
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GPU = Graphical processor unit
its the chip in the phone that draws polygons and renders graphics so games and graphic related things run smoothly

Thanks for that info, that's what I was thinking but wasn't positive.
I tried it on smartbench 2011 and got about a 1500.
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tackleberry said:
Thanks for that info, that's what I was thinking but wasn't positive.
I tried it on smartbench 2011 and got about a 1500.
sent from the rooty tooty fresh and fruity cm7 nighly powered G2
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Got 1500 for what specifically?
Smartbench 2011 outputs 2 bars after the test. One for Productivity Index (CPU performance) and another for Gaming Index (GPU performance). Top bar is Productivity Index and bottom bar is Gaming Index.

from my understanding quadrant isn't all that accurate when it comes to benchmarking...hopefully i'm not wrong but I think it scores the phones ability to handle 2d/3d graphics, how fast it reads and write data, memory and cpu. If you are using the free version you won't be able to see how you score on each test. Even though its just numbers I can't help it...check out my latest and highest bench marks. I barely missed the 3k mark today on quadrant oc'ed to 1.8 got 2997...I just forgot to upload the screenshot.

sodvs said:
from my understanding quadrant isn't all that accurate when it comes to benchmarking...hopefully i'm not wrong but I think it scores the phones ability to handle 2d/3d graphics, how fast it reads and write data, memory and cpu. If you are using the free version you won't be able to see how you score on each test. Even though its just numbers I can't help it...check out my latest and highest bench marks. I barely missed the 3k mark today on quadrant oc'ed to 1.8 got 2997...I just forgot to upload the screenshot.
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so what kernel you're using???...
Now I just got a 2301pt at 1.5Gperformance in Quadrant Advanced

sodvs said:
from my understanding quadrant isn't all that accurate when it comes to benchmarking...hopefully i'm not wrong but I think it scores the phones ability to handle 2d/3d graphics, how fast it reads and write data, memory and cpu. If you are using the free version you won't be able to see how you score on each test. Even though its just numbers I can't help it...check out my latest and highest bench marks. I barely missed the 3k mark today on quadrant oc'ed to 1.8 got 2997...I just forgot to upload the screenshot.
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Wow the Smartbench 2011 results for Liquid Villain are impressive. Might have to give that rom a try.

I think it might I been a fluke lol the cloest I got that again 1600/2400ish.
On all the screen shoots I was using pershoots kernal
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If u want to go big use flippys turbo kernel. A phone as fast as u want, lol.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I have used flippy's kernal and oc'ed to 1.9 and got 2997 on quandrant but smartbench score was 1900ish productivity/ 1700ish gaming...phone got a bit hot as well...with pershoots kernal I can get almost the same results and phone stays at normal temp.

I got 3158 on quadrant running CM7rc2 with pershoots .34 kernel. Oc'd to 1516 with performance governor.
Currently on CM7rc3 with pershoots .36 kernel I'm getting high 2900's.
All I know is ›3000 on quadrant is FAST!
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How do I get pershoot's latest kernel?

just over 3200+ on quadrant running the latest CM7 nightly and setting [email protected]
for quadrant, i have noticed its important to run it several times before you get an accurate measurement... personally, i've had the best score around the 3rd or 4th run.... anything more after that just plateau the score or even dips a bit at times. and kill heavy background services (ie: f/b, lookout, juice defender, DSP manager)
FYI: if i set CPU back to stock, i'm still @ 2700ish

Quadrant hasn't been updated for a long time and it is not exactly reliable when it comes to evaluating a phone's performance. You're much better off with Antutu Benchmark.
And this is almost a year old of a post

crestofawave said:
Quadrant hasn't been updated for a long time and it is not exactly reliable when it comes to evaluating a phone's performance. You're much better off with Antutu Benchmark.
And this is almost a year old of a post
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GPU overclock kernel for ICS

If the SGX540 in P1000 can be overclocked to 370MHz, the performance of it can be highly improved like in Overcome Kernel.
(Can be showed in Quadrant Standard Edition. When it is in 370 MHz, the fps in the graphic animation of DNA can be promoted to 60fps. And got no lagging in anything. The speed(smoothness is nearly reached S2 which is official 2.3.6)
But however, it doesn't seem that any ICS supporting kernel can set the clock of GPU.
I am sorry that my English is not good enough to represent my idea, but I hope you can get what I am talking about.
And the most reason I want it to be real is that the potential of P1000 is quite big and in fact it is quite good!
PS Antutu SetCPU app can set GPU clock in Overcome Kernel.

Dang, I never knew that our GPU can be overclocked ^^
since this tab is getting old, maybe its time to overclock the gpu also?
Personally I'm agree with this

Probs a little off topic, (also to bump this up a bit)
But the Gnex which uses the same GPU can be overclocked to 512Mhz (Stock is 300 something I think), improvement seems noticeable in apps and in nenamark, you go from 27-28ish FPS to 31-32.
It would really help the tab, it seems to show age now (which makes me lust over a 7.7......)

What I knew is the potential of SGX540 in GNexus and GT are different.
GT one is 200MHz and GNexus one is 374MHz.
In Overcome Kernel w/ GT, the clock of SGX540 can be set to 370~38X Mhz w/ no crush but when it is 400MHz , the machine is seemed to be lagged.
The benchmark in Overcome 4.1 plus Overcome Kernel 4.0 can be promoted over the GT 7.7 (of course the mark doesn't represent the real using experience but let's just look at the 3D mark)
http: / / i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/ngtinching/SC20120401-173417.jpg

edwardplus said:
What I knew is the potential of SGX540 in GNexus and GT are different.
GT one is 200MHz and GNexus one is 374MHz.
In Overcome Kernel w/ GT, the clock of SGX540 can be set to 370~38X Mhz w/ no crush but when it is 400MHz , the machine is seemed to be lagged.
The benchmark in Overcome 4.1 plus Overcome Kernel 4.0 can be promoted over the GT 7.7 (of course the mark doesn't represent the real using experience but let's just look at the 3D mark)
http: / / i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/ngtinching/SC20120401-173417.jpg
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Haha, yea I know they have different potentials Just that I thought I'd let you guys know how much better overclocking the GPU would be.
I think its worth it, there is little impact on battery life, but the improvements in apps and usage are noticeable.

FC1032 said:
Haha, yea I know they have different potentials Just that I thought I'd let you guys know how much better overclocking the GPU would be.
I think its worth it, there is little impact on battery life, but the improvements in apps and usage are noticeable.
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I think the battery usage for extra cost of GPU is not as high as CPU.
It is being a great difference if we compared the overclocking for either CPU and GPU.
The consumption of GPU is low and it won't make the device hot as CPU overclocking.
And the temperature can keep around 35 to 36 degree Celsius under a room temperature 20 Degree Celsius.
The result screenshot I have posted is undergoing CPU overclocked (1.4GHz) plus GPU overclocked(370MHz) w/ overcome kernel and rom.

Success!!!
edwardplus said:
If the SGX540 in P1000 can be overclocked to 370MHz, the performance of it can be highly improved like in Overcome Kernel.
(Can be showed in Quadrant Standard Edition. When it is in 370 MHz, the fps in the graphic animation of DNA can be promoted to 60fps. And got no lagging in anything. The speed(smoothness is nearly reached S2 which is official 2.3.6)
But however, it doesn't seem that any ICS supporting kernel can set the clock of GPU.
I am sorry that my English is not good enough to represent my idea, but I hope you can get what I am talking about.
And the most reason I want it to be real is that the potential of P1000 is quite big and in fact it is quite good!
PS Antutu SetCPU app can set GPU clock in Overcome Kernel.
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Hello, i have been trying to implement LiveOC into humberos's kernel and it is a success
LiveOC
This allows us to modify the bus speed which increase both the cpu and gpu clock at the same time using an app called NStools
i have only been using this for a day now and it seems to be working very well
please report back any bugs thank you,
BTW i will post the settings i have used in NStools and this kernel is for the latest MTD build
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/216rF_WJ/boot.html?
My settings:
Governor: smartassV2
min CPU freq: 200MHz (240MHz after applying OC Value)
Max CPU freq: 1000MHz (1200MHz after applying OC Value)
OC target low: 200MHz
OC target high: 1000MHz
OC Value: 120%

hello20 said:
Hello, i have been trying to implement LiveOC into humberos's kernel and it is a success
LiveOC
This allows us to modify the bus speed which increase both the cpu and gpu clock at the same time using an app called NStools
i have only been using this for a day now and it seems to be working very well
please report back any bugs thank you,
BTW i will post the settings i have used in NStools and this kernel is for the latest MTD build
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/216rF_WJ/boot.html?
My settings:
Governor: smartassV2
min CPU freq: 200MHz (240MHz after applying OC Value)
Max CPU freq: 1000MHz (1200MHz after applying OC Value)
OC target low: 200MHz
OC target high: 1000MHz
OC Value: 120%
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I'll give that a try when I get home (or maybe a few days later). So which ICS rom did you try this on?
EDIT: In terms of quadrant (which I know can be a bit volatile... but a nice way/quick way to see differences), ICS gets a lower mem score :< 3d is slightly lower, 2d is about double (I suspect thats forcing 2d rendering). This is comparing the gtab score in quadrant, I haven't used GB on my tab for a longgg time...)

how can i implement the boot.img file into the system???

tidusdacapo said:
how can i implement the boot.img file into the system???
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This kernel is one i did 2 months ago and since then it has been updated. the kernel is in my most recent ROM

henryedwardrose said:
This kernel is one i did 2 months ago and since then it has been updated. the kernel is in my most recent ROM
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thanks for the information
as a newbie, i just thought another aokp by stimpz0r is identical
there is a strange point which is the fc of the camera while the shutter sound is closed, but it works while enabling the shutter sound
It is a great rom and thank you for your great work

How are your benchmarks so high?

It's been about a year since any benchmarking threads have been created for the A500, and I'm interested to see how people are getting better performance.
I'm running Flexreaper v5 and I score around 6200 in AnTuTu. One other ROMs and other kernels I'm getting around 4300. However, the AnTuTu comparison charts show quite a few people scoring 7500+ with the A500.
How are people getting such high results?

Overclocking maybe?

essevee said:
Overclocking maybe?
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Hoping for something a bit more specific. Kernel, ROM, CPU Frequency...
BTW - Mine is OCed to 1.5 GHz

Think I found one of the ROMs that's getting such high performance. I got the JB ROM from he would cannot be named, and this thing flies! 5600 in AnTuTu with no OC. Set GPU to 400 MHz and OC'ed CPU to 1.6 GHz, and that clocked in at 7225.

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Think I found one of the ROMs that's getting such high performance. I got the JB ROM from he would cannot be named, and this thing flies! 5600 in AnTuTu with no OC. Set GPU to 400 MHz and OC'ed CPU to 1.6 GHz, and that clocked in at 7225.
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I'd be a little careful at 1.6. Runs a little unstable, and is only for benchmarks.

Moscow Desire said:
I'd be a little careful at 1.6. Runs a little unstable, and is only for benchmarks.
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It looks like the new kernel allows clocking up to 1.68, so I have just left it at an even 1.6. I haven't run into any major instability so far (knock on wood), and I really like how smooth it is. I've finally been able to play Asphalt 7 smoothly (good way to blow off steam at work). Thanks, though.