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Will there be a rooted ota for people who didn't install it or never got it. I rooted my phone and would like the better radio in hopes I will get more cell bars
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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Sv3nt3k said:
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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i dont understand what u mean i have perm root without the ota. If i install the ota it will break root. Will i have to go thru the whole process again if i do this? I know on the mytouchslide when they came out with an ota they just rooted it so it wouldnt break the current root
i havent tried perm root yet. however search this site for 'visionary' root, which is all u really need for now. i had visionary root installed along with several root only apps (titanium backup, cachemate, setcpu, several others) and the OTA installed while my phone was rooted with absolutely no problems.
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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the "#" denotes root access lol...... (coming from a marginal linux background..)
richierich118 said:
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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Have you tried reapplying s-off?
I am also interested in getting a solution because right before I rooted my phone I started getting ota update notifications for my phone and now I cant upgrade my phone but the notifications continue to persist. So I figure if I can get a rooted update or delete something, I can get rid of notifications.
ok i got it working what i did was do what somesaid in the begining and that was to follow the guide that doesnt use visionary for perm root. I think its call temp to perm root. I always had the s-off just not the perm root. everything is fine now
At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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I didnt use clockworks recover i used the orginal. It just made me loose root and not s-off so i used the temp-too-perm root to get it back because visionary was saying my phone was already rooted. I believe I was getting this cause i had rooted without the ota the first time. The second time i used the ota.ko Instead of the preota.ko because i used this when i didnt update to the ota on the first run.
Oh, okay. Thanks for that. I'm currently in the same boat you were in. I applied the OTA and it's reporting S-OFF, Visionary is saying I'm rooted, but certain things aren't working.
In the process of getting it fixed.
EDIT: Went through the same process you did and I'm all good to go. I was able to apply the OTA update after rooting it and then re-rooted it.
so how exactly did you root you perma root your phone again after ota.
i have perma root right now, its pre-ota, i do want to install ota though.. would i have to go back and do the manual perma-root with the "ota" files now instead of the other ones. im just confused and want to clear this up before i do anything stupid. thanks!
for some reason.. whenever I do temp root with visionary or z4... It says its rooting.. then my phone "restarts" does the sprint 4g slaph screen and gets stuck on the big 4G logo...
I ran visionary when I first got the shift(temp root to run titanium backup) but now it's not working. anyone know why?
I tried z4 and visionary+ and it makes my phone run very slow. R ran seepu and saw that the cpu usage at max all the time. My phone got hot.
I want to root for the wifi hotspot but I'm afraid of messing up the perm root and bricking my phone, so temp root would be ideal, but it isn't really working. Am i missing something?
Its pretty hard to brick this phone...
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when i was rooting my shift z4 wouldn't work for me at all. it did the exact same thing you're describing, temp root>reboot>no root. visionary worked like a charm both times i've rooted this (i was having second thoughts on keeping it so i flashed it stock one night when i was drunk). anyways, if you follow the instructions line by line and copy/paste the code to adb shell it's a pretty painless process. you can root, backup wimax keys, and install clockwork recovery in a matter of about 20 minutes. everyone is nervous their first time... but it's really not difficult. the biggest problems i had was getting the usb drivers to install correctly (win7 x64) and getting a good copy of visionary. other than that, it's easy.
what i'm really trying to say is, i would suggest just perm rooting your device... with root and titanium you can delete all the crap you don't like (ie. kindle, amazon, nfl or nascar) and it makes it easier to work with. you can also OC/UV the stock rom for an even sweeter experience.
Yup, Perma-rooted. Got help in the Shift IRC, they are very nice ppl.
I was having difficulty with the ordinary Temproot option of Visionary (it kept rebooting and slowing down instead), so I instead tried Temproot on Boot. It worked great just now--I'm hoping it continues to do so.
Visionary and Z4root
I am unable to find this in the Android market, is it safe to search for the .apk's for both and install?
This should get you on the right track...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
HolyShift said:
This should get you on the right track...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
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Perfect! Thanks for the quick reply.
I sometimes have the same problem with both Visionary+ and Z4Root. I also notice, that when it fails to root, the app also disappears.
For me, If I reboot, the app comes back. If I try a second time, it always works.
About 3 hours ago, I won a Desire Z (wheeey!) at the HTC London meetup. Naturally, I came straight here after the help I got in January rooting my Desire.
I used the Visionary method and obtained temp root status, and then attempted perm root, which seemed to work. All of the guides I have read include a bunch of steps after this, one of which included deleting Visionary, which I then did. I just turned the phone off, took the battery out for a bit and then turned it back on. I still have the Superuser icon and the Terminal Emulator indicates that I have root access... is that it then? It's that simple?
Please tell me if I've done anything wrong, as I don't want to flash Cyanogen and Clockwork Recovery if it's all going to go to hell on me. Any advice or confirmation on whether or not I've obtained perm root would be lovely.
Oh, my firmware version is 1.34.405... etc. Is this simply the last version which allows for such easy root?
EDIT: Bugger, didn't realise what forum I was in, please delete this and I'll pop it in the Q&A.
accordingly you should have probably only achieved temp root. you'll probably lose access later when you restart it again.
One of the stickies for this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025135
No. I thought same thing when I did that. I gained temp root then 3 simple commands and BAM! S-OFF and all
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the first desire z i got was right when it was released and at that time the only method that was available was the visionary method... and although some people were having problems with it the perm root method worked fine for me and i had a perm root desire z for over a month (then i sat on the phone and broke it lol)... my understanding is that visionary can give u perm root but by doing that it will modify a number of system files that should not be modified and that worked for some people and for others it just bricked their phones... personally i would do a hard reset of the phone to erase any damage visionary might have done to the phone system files before putting any rom on it (CM or other)... then get perm root and S-OFF the clean way using ADB ...
I am trying to root my phone and am running into trouble early. I have watched the videos & followed instructions. Somehow I am either missing something or my phone is jacked somehow.
I made sure it's not in fast boot, USB debugging & unknown sources are on. I have tried visionary r14 & r11. I have also tried multiple factory resets.
OK, I use visionary with set system r/w after root checked. I go from there to Term. Emulator & when I type su it shows "unknown user root" without the quotes. I've tried to continue but it gives me other errors and S is always on when I check.
I've searched Google & the forums and haven't found much that's been able to help me.
If anyone has seen this I would appreciate the help. Thanks!
Visionary (r11 & r14) are only temp root tools. You must use one of the two methods (both are in my signature) to turn s-off. As long as your s-on you will not be able to permaroot your phone.
Once you turn off the phone, and turn it back on you've lost Root Access. and that's why it's given you that error. If you pull the battery wait about 30 seconds, put the battery back in. Then temp root you should see a "superuser" icon appear. Once you see that try your SU command from terminal emulator. The other thing you can try is setting up your ADB (link in signature). Navigate to the c:/adb folder then typing in ADB shell. You should see a $ sign appear. Type SU from the Command Prompt and it should ask you to approve the SU access on the phone. once you've gained temp SU access you can proceed with one of the two methods i've got posted to finish turning s-off.
It's the temp root I'm getting stuck at. I do get the superuser icon after I do the temp root. I go directly to emulator and type in su and that is when it tells me "unknown user root". I will try the ADB method when I get home from work if nothing else is figured out before that.
Same deal for me. Not sure if my MT4G is a newer model or what. I've literally done EVERY set of instructions and youtube videos on rooting and keep getting stuck at the same place. Typing su into terminal emulator and getting unknown user root. I have reset my phone, taken the battery out for five minutes and re-inserted it. I have tried both visionary 11 and 14 versions and clicked temp root. Once the temp root process completes and comes back to visionary+ I go straight to terminal emulator, type in su and get unknown user root. Unlike dbharr I DO NOT get a superuser icon after temprooting with visionary. It's not like i'm fudging up any part of the process here. I'm stuck at like step 2 of the rooting process. Any ideas anyone?
Software version is 2.2.1
You may have a newer chip set and may only be able to root with s-off by using the gfree route. It was the only thing that worked for me.
In my situation I had visionary installed, root folder in the root of my sd card, and followed the unlockr method for root access.
I temprooted and checked temp root on boot and rw one too.
I ran terminal emulator, typed in the commands and the process ran and looked like a success.
I powered my phone down and boot into hboot and s-on showed up.
I tried the same process and factory reset between tries.
I then found out there was another way to get perm root with s-off using a similar process.
I factory reset and placed visionary apk and gfree folder on the root of my sd card.
I went on the android market and installed root explorer (there plenty others you can use it only need to be able to access your root) and also terminal emulator.
I installed visionary and temp rooted (using same temproot method from unlockr.com) my phone I downloaded the gfree file and extracted it on my cpu then moved it to the root of my sdcard.
Then using your root explorer go into gfree folder and copy the file called "gfree" and only this file.
The go into the root of the phone and your going to paste that into the local folder in /data/local/
From there you type in a few commands in terminal emulator. It will run thru a process then power down.
Boot into hboot and verify it shows s-off
If so reboot phone. When your phone boots up visionary should have temp rooted your phone.
If so Open up visionary and uncheck temproot on boot and click attempt perm root. Your phone will reboot and you have perm root. Verify by typing su in terminal emulator and then if you get # your good to go.
If you dont get s-off try factory reset and repeat process, you should be able to find the instructions if you search gfree and it should come up but if im not mistaken its a stickie on the developement forum
Hope this helps!
HTC Glacier
Perm-rooted S-off
If root.sh method is not working, use gfree + visionary method. Worked for me as a charm.
People, please bother to read before answering questions. Marking below the important part of the question that everyone is missing:
corollatercel said:
Same deal for me. Not sure if my MT4G is a newer model or what. I've literally done EVERY set of instructions and youtube videos on rooting and keep getting stuck at the same place. Typing su into terminal emulator and getting unknown user root. I have reset my phone, taken the battery out for five minutes and re-inserted it. I have tried both visionary 11 and 14 versions and clicked temp root. Once the temp root process completes and comes back to visionary+ I go straight to terminal emulator, type in su and get unknown user root. Unlike dbharr I DO NOT get a superuser icon after temprooting with visionary. It's not like i'm fudging up any part of the process here. I'm stuck at like step 2 of the rooting process. Any ideas anyone?
Software version is 2.2.1
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If Visionary doesn't temp-root your phone, you could attempt it using SuperOneClick (google it) from PC, using rageagainstthecage or psneuter method. Just substitute the steps for temp-root using Visionary to temp-root using SuperOneClick.
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People, please bother to read before answering questions. Marking below the important part of the question that everyone is missing:
To corollatercel:
If Visionary doesn't temp-root your phone, you could attempt it using SuperOneClick (google it) from PC, using rageagainstthecage or psneuter method. Just substitute the steps for temp-root using Visionary to temp-root using SuperOneClick.
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Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for. An alternate method of temprooting. I will try this and post results. Thanks Jack.
Ok you guys may think i'm kidding but I tried both methods outlined
Here:
SuperOneClick trying both psnueter AND gingerbreak options
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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Here:
RageagainsttheCage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792016
and even after superoneclick says its rooted AND says says success when it asks if I want to test root by sending su command, whenever I go into terminal Emulator and type in su I get permission denied or unknown user root whenever I tried su through adb shell through Dos on my machine. I dunno what is it with my device. I did all of this after fresh factory resets just so you all know. I dunno my MT4G must have a newer chipset that's not vulnerable to the current exploits is all I can say. I've follow these instructions to the letter more than twice each time factory resetting just to make sure things are fresh. Still no dice.
I never did get mine working. I did get a warranty replacement & had it rooted within 10 minutes of being out of the box. That makes me think it was something with the phone. Best of luck to others with the same problem.
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I never did get mine working. I did get a warranty replacement & had it rooted within 10 minutes of being out of the box. That makes me think it was something with the phone. Best of luck to others with the same problem.
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Yeah unfortunately am not in that same position. It sucks. Guess i'm stuck with it for the moment. Only reason I really wanted to root and upgrade was so I could download netflix. I went from the G2 to the MT4G and had NO idea it was just compatible with certain devices. I've tried different versions of the netflix app on here too but they all require you to have root. Hopefully they make the app compatible soon.
Here's an update everyone. I was FINALLY able to get everything working. I had to use a tool called Z4root to gain temproot. You can imagine my relief AND also frustration after I installed z4root and things just started running just the way it was supposed to. I gained temp root in a matter of minutes and after doing so I was able to use the gfree method to perform all other functions that are a part of the rooting process. And for the record ALL other tools did not work for me:
- Both versions of visionary + 11 and 14
- SuperOneClick using psnueter AND rageagainstthecage exploits
Just thought I'd share. Thanks a lot guys. I had already put my mytouch on cl for sale or trade for a G2 because I thought my device could not be rooted or anything. until about 1 o clock in the morning I got it workin...ha.
Thats sweet man im glad you got it done, only difference I was avle to use visionary
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So I never actually rooted my mytouch 4g because the temp root for Visionary r14 always worked for my Titanium backups. Over the last month or so, though, I've kept trying to temp root (even with trying r12 and r14, and even with loading and reloading and retrying etc.) without success. Figured I'd hit up XDA to see if anyone had an idea with regard to how to either temp/perm root without Visionary.
Cheers,
Jeff
There is a sticky thread for rooting. Should be able to help you.
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Were you updated to android 2.3.4?
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So I never actually rooted my mytouch 4g because the temp root for Visionary r14 always worked for my Titanium backups. Over the last month or so, though, I've kept trying to temp root (even with trying r12 and r14, and even with loading and reloading and retrying etc.) without success. Figured I'd hit up XDA to see if anyone had an idea with regard to how to either temp/perm root without Visionary.
Cheers,
Jeff
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wrong section, but did u try the gfree method and also as it was mentioned, did u update to 2.3.4?
Still on 2.2.1 (hasn't changed since I got the phone). No, I didn't try gfree... its instructions state to use Visionary to temp root and, as I mentioned in the first post (well, and the thread subject), Visionary isn't working to temp root my phone anymore, which is why I'm totally perplexed as to where to begin.
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wrong section, but did u try the gfree method and also as it was mentioned, did u update to 2.3.4?
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Temp-root for Froyo - try SuperOneClick.
delyorik said:
Still on 2.2.1 (hasn't changed since I got the phone). No, I didn't try gfree... its instructions state to use Visionary to temp root and, as I mentioned in the first post (well, and the thread subject), Visionary isn't working to temp root my phone anymore, which is why I'm totally perplexed as to where to begin.
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Try this guide:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
Stop just before "Flashing CyanogenMod" and you'll be perm-rooted with stock and S-OFF.
So I just unmounted my sd card and tried Visionary r14's temp root again. It worked. I also remounted my sd card and am running my Titanium backup again. CMSTLIST, I'll most likely end up perm-rooting my phone with the info you posted earlier, but for now, I'm good to go.
Cheers, folks.
Jeff/Dely