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So far, A+. Not a really huge update, but well worth it. Overall smoother, Big difference in video quality and audio. flash works good. Battery life better.
How do i post video's? (says invalid file type) sorry kind of a dummy
How would you describe the video quality? I did some in-house testing with mine and found it to be pretty weak still...no empirical testing though. I was mainly interested to see if we could get rid of the damn chop when in lower light settings (not that low though).
I thought the choppiness was much better. I set to H.264.
I have 2 short comparison videos, if I can figure out how to upload!
yeah I've heard the H.264 is pretty good now but the real deal is the 720p and it SUCKS still. I mean who wants to go around saying "You want to see my H.264 video recorded on my phone?" No....I want to say "hells yeah, 720p looks damn good now!".
Anyways, maybe we will get 720p on H.264 soon!
I give up. If you want to see the video's go to:
youtube. search 1970dca
Updated to rooted deodexed 2.2, its great, but I can't find the tapatalk pro app in market... can anyone else confirm this?
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svinyard said:
yeah I've heard the H.264 is pretty good now but the real deal is the 720p and it SUCKS still. I mean who wants to go around saying "You want to see my H.264 video recorded on my phone?" No....I want to say "hells yeah, 720p looks damn good now!".
Anyways, maybe we will get 720p on H.264 soon!
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This is a work in progress... check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7390531&highlight=xml#post7390531
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So far, A+. Not a really huge update, but well worth it. Overall smoother, Big difference in video quality and audio. flash works good. Battery life better.
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well i will have to say using wifi and gps on all day i am setting at 13 hours unplugged and still have half of the battery.
when i was on 1.32 i could not get more then about 4 hours of use from it. so i am happy with that. i hope that on tue. that it gets even better.
but as far as everything else no issue here.
My battery life has seemed to drop off drastically. Almost back to as bad as it was with 1.32. I can almost watch my battery drop. hopefully tuesday official release fixes this.
My battery life suck as well going to 2.2. The signal/ reception is terrible for me as well with 2.2. Definately hope the "Official release" is better or I'LL be rooting.
2.2
my battery life is still puke even on 3g but my signal strength has improved greatly. i use to never, and i mean never, be able to connect to 4g at my house. since flashing 2.2, not only does it connect, i also get 4-5 megs down
My battery life is a lot worst now. but I can now connect to and use 4G. Before, i can see the 4G sign for like 15 sec and then it would disappear.
I get great battery life now and 4g. I am loving the leaked 2.2. I am looking forward to the official Froyo so people will work on the root again. Not that I need it especially, but wouldn't mind having it just to delete the Sprint stuff.
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How come everyone has gotten this update but me?!?! I just checked manually and it said there were no updates found. WTF
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How come everyone has gotten this update but me?!?! I just checked manually and it said there were no updates found. WTF
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Not a lot of people have, I think maybe one or two people claim they've gotten it from a pull. Wait for 8/3 to get the official release, it will be less likely to brick your phone or have bugs. I've been checking since Friday.
There's also a bug where any notifications or Google Navigation voice prompt kicks in, your music pauses and does not resume. Did not happen in 2.1
I love how people are crying about the 2.2 update that they downloaded and installed and was told by HTC and Sprint that it was not the official update. I want to know if anybody in this thread that is crying about the update got there update OTA. If they did, I will take what I said back, if not, quit your *****ing about a non-official update.
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There's also a bug where any notifications or Google Navigation voice prompt kicks in, your music pauses and does not resume. Did not happen in 2.1
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that is an annoying bug . had to go back to 2.1 until I was done with my road trip
Same here, battery life has been noticably worse with the leaked update.
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I love how people are crying about the 2.2 update that they downloaded and installed and was told by HTC and Sprint that it was not the official update. I want to know if anybody in this thread that is crying about the update got there update OTA. If they did, I will take what I said back, if not, quit your *****ing about a non-official update.
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Somebody pee in your corn flakes?
I've had 3.29 since it was available (w/ root) and had not tested the video recorder. Well, last ota didn't record videos so well, I'm actually quite impressed. Pictures seem clear, no jumpy/cutting on videos I recorded, audio could still use work but is better. Still not the best but highly impressive for a phone. ")
Before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=a5JwIteFSyY
Test #1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=WLlozbzEIoc
More Video Test's Coming Soon.
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i would like to see video tests between release 2.1 rom, sprint froyo 2.2, and this last ota update rom.
would be kinda hard unless you got a laptop in the outside testing field (outside of course is best for recording). Flashing roms, setting up, etc in a small amount of time before the sun goes down or gets cloudy messing up the testing process.
cant wait to see some results, i havent even bothered to test the camcorder yet since noones mentioned it
Test #1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=WLlozbzEIoc
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Hmmm...I still think it's a bad romance between the camera sensor and HTC's drivers.
its.. meehhh... i think a faster sd card and some real hardcore tweaking can get that camcorder almost up to par with samsung and iphone.
its still kinda... janky.
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its.. meehhh... i think a faster sd card and some real hardcore tweaking can get that camcorder almost up to par with samsung and iphone.
its still kinda... janky.
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Really???
This is a video before I updated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=a5JwIteFSyY
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So i bought and installed a FFC, (bought 2, installed both). the font was blurry but i fixed the focus. But the back camera is really bad compared to my old one. i even switched back to be sure. ive only tested at night indoors because its nighttime now, but the FFC version has lots of awful lines running up and down the screen when i look through the viewfinder, whereas the vibrant version is crystal clear. when i take a picture it comes out much better than what i see in the viewfinder but still a bit of the lines. anyone else have this issue? im running bionix1.8 i tested both cams on that and only the ffc version has this issue...
Are you serious? This is the first time anyone has EVER complained about this! Alert the media...stop the presses...call you Senator...and WAKE UP THE PRESIDENT!!!!
post some picture so we can see
Dude, so you spent say about $60 for two replacement cameras, pried your phone apart, drilled a hole, and subjected your screen to disolving fluids but couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread?
no drilling involved.
someone delete this thread. read the ffc thread, as its a well known side effect. still waiting on the rom dev's to get theres so they can really tweak and make the ffc work to its fullest
All I have to day is I sure am glad I didn't do the mod. In all the excitement almost nobody mentions this problem. I know I never saw it mentioned, and I read several walkthroughs explaining the mods and how to do it.
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Please DON'T delete this post. Why would we have to read the whole thread for such vital information. That thread is ginormous.
Dude, the ffc is much lower resolution than the rear camera, if you replace your rear camera (which is what it sounds like you did) it's a massive downgrade.
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Dude, the ffc is much lower resolution than the rear camera, if you replace your rear camera (which is what it sounds like) it's a massive downgrade.
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....wow....
He is saying the rear camera sucks after completing the ffc mod. Ha ha
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ok, you guys are being too hasty.
First you guys jumped and bought cameras before support was even added.
Now, you guys are QQ'ing because it's not working right, eventhough you all now the devs don' have cameras yet.
Just be patient and wait for the devs to get their hands on cameras.
crying and ****ing on a forum are not going to resolve your problem.
The warehouse is not going to accept returns.
So you might as well keep using your original camera until proper support is added for the FFC.
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RED LETTERS
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-Samsung-i9000-Camera-Flex-Cable-p/smsng6087125.htm
dude it is suppose to add a ffc to the phone not replace a back camera with a front you should still have a 5mp back cam
the part even said so
Main camera: 5MP
Front Facing Camera: 0.3MP
i there is a problem then it could be a bad batch of cameras or a conflict in the phone,
am haven't done this yet because i don't want to scratch the glass (maybe some one will come out with a replacement part) i want mine to look as oem as possible
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ok, you guys are being too hasty.
First you guys jumped and bought cameras before support was even added.
Now, you guys are QQ'ing because it's not working right, eventhough you all now the devs don' have cameras yet.
Just be patient and wait for the devs to get their hands on cameras.
crying and ****ing on a forum are not going to resolve your problem.
The warehouse is not going to accept returns.
So you might as well keep using your original camera until proper support is added for the FFC.
RED LETTERS
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-Samsung-i9000-Camera-Flex-Cable-p/smsng6087125.htm
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Do any devs even have cams on the way? I might have an extra one....
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dude it is suppose to add a ffc to the phone not replace a back camera with a front you should still have a 5mp back cam
the part even said so
Main camera: 5MP
Front Facing Camera: 0.3MP
i there is a problem then it could be a bad batch of cameras or a conflict in the phone,
am haven't done this yet because i don't want to scratch the glass (maybe some one will come out with a replacement part) i want mine to look as oem as possible
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I can 100% assure you ALL the cameras where extensively tested prior to shipping. I have been in contact with the CEO of Global for 2 weeks now. The issue with the quality of the pictures is believed to be in the kernal. the i9000 kernal differs greatly from the vibrant kernal. The devs are working on it and as soon as they have a solution im sure everyone will know! just be patient.
Yeah I read a good ten pages of threads and 2 hardware guides and a software guide and watched a hardware video all without a single mention of this.
After all your flaming I did dig a bit deeper and found it, but this is something that should be in caps at the top of every thread.....
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Just be patient and wait for the devs to get their hands on cameras.
crying and ****ing on a forum are not going to resolve your problem.
The warehouse is not going to accept returns.
So you might as well keep using your original camera until proper support is added for the FFC.
RED LETTERS
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-Samsung-i9000-Camera-Flex-Cable-p/smsng6087125.htm
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Just be patient and wait for the devs to get their hands on cameras.
This is Why I want a portable cam
This is Why I want a portable cam that could be plugged into the phone and use it as a FFC or as a portable camera head so I can look inside walls and take pictures with the phone as the capture device (would be awesome for my work). Then i could use it as a FFC and not be bothered with trying to redesign a phone and installing a junkie little .3 meg camera
To put so that people will understand,
THIS MOD IS IN ALPHA, NOT BETA, NOT RELEASED, USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! FURTHERMORE THE HARDWARE IS SOLID, THE SOFTWARE NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED AND APP DEVS HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MOD BEFORE YOU WILL SEE A REAL USE. SO IF YOU DONT HAVE MONEY TO BURN RIGHT NOW DONT BUY THE DAMN CAMERAS AND STOP *****ING!
Im sick of all the whining in this damn forum, meh, gps, meh. Meh, froyo, meh. Meh, battery life, meh. If this is your first android phone then dammit get used to it, and if its not you know initial dwvelopment is slow unless its htc. So please, PLEASEm stop whining and help somebody or just ****ing shut up.
Whew, I feel better.
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Why? No one told you to be the first to get it. You moved too fast, next time let someone who doesnt mind being the guinea pig test it first
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I usually hate the people that yell at the dumber people and use all caps......but what you said actually had me laughing out loud. No so much the first paragraph, but the second. And since this thread is actually pretty useless, I dont mind polluting it with this paragraph of nothing. thanks for the laugh at least.
orells said:
To put so that people will understand,
THIS MOD IS IN ALPHA, NOT BETA, NOT RELEASED, USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! FURTHERMORE THE HARDWARE IS SOLID, THE SOFTWARE NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED AND APP DEVS HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MOD BEFORE YOU WILL SEE A REAL USE. SO IF YOU DONT HAVE MONEY TO BURN RIGHT NOW DONT BUY THE DAMN CAMERAS AND STOP *****ING!
Im sick of all the whining in this damn forum, meh, gps, meh. Meh, froyo, meh. Meh, battery life, meh. If this is your first android phone then dammit get used to it, and if its not you know initial dwvelopment is slow unless its htc. So please, PLEASEm stop whining and help somebody or just ****ing shut up.
Whew, I feel better.
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First of all, id just like to say, i love my epic, however.... i had it for almost a month and today i tried the video camera which is supposed to be good... right? Well unless im doing something wrong, it looks like crap. If anyone is moving fast it has a HUGE trail behind them. Is there something i can do to fix this issue? i have everything on max settings.
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First of all, id just like to say, i love my epic, however.... i had it for almost a month and today i tried the video camera which is supposed to be good... right? Well unless im doing something wrong, it looks like crap. If anyone is moving fast it has a HUGE trail behind them. Is there something i can do to fix this issue? i have everything on max settings.
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I haven't tweaked any settings and it's perfectly fine. Try deleting the Data under Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Camera > 'Clear Data'.
See if it works better that way. My playback is incredibly high quality and I don't touch any settings.
Strange I've taken quite a few vids with my Epic and never had that issue. In fact they generally turn out quite well.
do this: wave your hand infront of it and see if you can see the tracers.... thats waht im talking about... so for instance, if i record someone breakdancing or something else that they are moving fast, its ALL tracers and looks terrible. P.S. that didnt work
If u updated your phone yesterday to froyo that is what's causing it
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If u updated your phone yesterday to froyo that is what's causing it
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for real? wtf... yeah im running the eb13 ext4 with the OC kernal... so how would i go about fixing this? downgrading back to dk18?
Yeap people are downgrading back to DK18 but I like froyo too much so I will wait for the fix
Yup, I would say screw that, and just downgrade back to Froyo dk28, it's what I have and until I see some decent roms with EB13 I will probably stick with DK28 until, I was OC'd with Genocide too, but that causing my phone to freeze sporatically,.
So I say stick with a dk rom.
There is absolutely no reason to"upgrade" to eb13 until there are some good custom roms. I'm running viper trinity with genocide kernel and my phone flies with no issues whatsoever. Why would I want to"upgrade" to a stock rom with evidently lots of bugs?
I say hold off, let these great devs work their magic, and then flash a true "upgrade."
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Which camera App?
I have found the camera on the Epic to be very inconsistent. Sometimes the photos look great, rivaling a good point-n-shoot. But, other times, it's just not sharp. It doesn't help that the lens sticks out and seems to get dirty just from holding the camera.
Has anyone found a better camera app?
I was able to record a basketball game...and even zoomed in all the way and out while recrding while they were running and there was absolutely NO blur. It was buttery smooth.
Infact, whenever someone watches a video on my phone, they ALL say "...wow....your phone takes really clear vids!"
Unfortunately tho, I don't see that being the case anymore if I take a video in lowlight
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It's not junk. It's the EB13 ROM causing problems. I'm still on DK28 and my cam is perfect....although a little grainy in low light.
The irony is that Samsung makes cameras, so one would think this is an area where they'd have an edge over HTC...
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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Well mines oesnt fail at 720p so maybe?
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lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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I remember a thread about that issue in dk28.
lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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Yes you are
10 chr
Epic 4g
lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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Mine just failed in 43 seconds, and I had just said, "nope not mine- past 30 sec... dammit wtf?" LOL
Mine was Odined to DI18, cwm2.5.5, flashed deodexed EB13 zip...
lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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evsnova74 said:
Mine just failed in 43 seconds, and I had just said, "nope not mine- past 30 sec... dammit wtf?" LOL
Mine was Odined to DI18, cwm2.5.5, flashed deodexed EB13 zip...
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It's the speed of the micro SD. Get a class 6 and it wont happen anymore.
Lag on preview
Are you looking at the resultant videos, or the screen when you're taking the movies? Because during video the screen is definitely laggy. As for the motion artifacting, well, you're not going to be able to catch even moderately high speed activities with a sensor the size of the Epic's in low light. That's because it looks like the Epic doesn't adjust the ISO when it gets dark, it just increases exposure time for each frame. This keeps the images from being terribly grainy, but also makes everything look like slomo watercolors when it gets dark enough. If you want good motion capture in low light situations, you're going to have to get something with a larger sensor. Actually, I'm surprised how nice the epic's movies look. I'm the first one to criticize samsung, but they did pretty well with the limited sensor size.
Theres alot of chatter on this. This is the deal breaker for some of us so please post if there is a solution at all on any version of froyo. Some say the camera blur is on all the leaks and the final EB13. Is that true?
I just tested it...
My camera was extremely unusable just now. But yesterday, I was able to record a basketball game perfectly indoors.
This was not present in dk28.
Dk28 actually had great lowlight useability... I recorded a few videos out in the park around midnight without flash and they were easily viewable. Flash was just a plus.
But now seeing this problem I might actually go back to dk28...I realllllly don't want to, but ima need the camera to work in low light...
I thought it was just recording laggy, but the playback was exactly the same
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I wonder if anybodys tried it with the OC kernel...it could possibly make up for the lag that is present. I don't think there will be a solution here on xda anyone soon, IMHO. This all seems to be a camera driver issue as I believe samsung changed the inherent behavior of the camera.
but this is all speculation of course
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You know... I thought it was just me aswell. I reflashed the samsung tool again. After a full boot up, launched camera. It was actually better but not eclair better, then I did the prl update and profile update, reboot and now its it worse! This is actualy good news. Meaning that its just a software bug.
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I wonder if anybodys tried it with the OC kernel...it could possibly make up for the lag that is present. I don't think there will be a solution here on xda anyone soon, IMHO. This all seems to be a camera driver issue as I believe samsung changed the inherent behavior of the camera.
but this is all speculation of course
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oh yeah. I used 1.2 genocide. No help, just as blurry.
inconsistent
The camera on the Epic has been inconsistent even before upgrading to Android 2.2. Sometimes the images rival a good point-n-shoot but only when there is plenty of light. The fact that the camera sticks out and collects smudges just from holding the phone does not help.
I have had better luck playing with the ISO and other settings. Even just leaving the camera in Macro seems to produce better results.
Is there a better camera app?
I wonder if anyone's had any luck installing the eclair camera app?
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I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
Is there a way to change it t 3gp? I don't think a lot of texting 0hones can handle mp4 lol
And has anyon tried a 3rd party camera app?
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Is there a way to change it t 3gp? I don't think a lot of texting 0hones can handle mp4 lol
And has anyon tried a 3rd party camera app?
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I don't think a 3rd party app will make a difference as far as quality. The drivers are the issue.
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I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
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It is NOT a 3GP issue. I am running DK28 Quantum ROM and there are NO camera issues at all. I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
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I dont think do. Maybe the outcome of the video should be effected but not the live feed on the screen. I haven't tried the apk from eclair, but I have tried the dk28 on eclair. It FC.
ZenInsight said:
It is NOT a 3GP issue. I am running DK28 Quantum ROM and there are NO camera issues at all. I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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ill try that rom in about 3 hours. I need to see if its true since aloe of people have said that this camera blue is on ALL froyos.
abduljaffar said:
ill try that rom in about 3 hours. I need to see if its true since aloe of people have said that this camera blue is on ALL froyos.
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You may have to take into account that a couple of these dk28 roms have some pretty nice enhancements and tweaks that might make the issue seem less severe.
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You may have to take into account that a couple of these dk28 roms have some pretty nice enhancements and tweaks that might make the issue seem less severe.
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I was running the stock DK28 rom downloaded from Google when it was first leaked and I had zero problems with the camera.
I own a pretty dimly lit store, and I took several videos in there with the phone that I posted to YouTube showing off our products, with DK28. Now with EB13, the camera is useless in the same store with the same light.
This was not a problem with DK28. It's not Froyo. It's EB13 that's the problem.
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I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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Considering it took them 6 months to crank out this mess, you could be waiting an eternity for something better.
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Considering it took them 6 months to crank out this mess, you could be waiting an eternity for something better.
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thats my fear aswell. But sprint and samsung just pulled the update from their sites. So that means they do know of these issues anf realize it has to be pulled and fixed. But comparing eclair to froyo camera performance is night and day. Pretty much useless at low light. I need low light. But I will never buy htc just because they update faster. Htc has their own awful hardware problens like under performing gpu and cpu.
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thats my fear aswell. But sprint and samsung just pulled the update from their sites. So that means they do know of these issues anf realize it has to be pulled and fixed. But comparing eclair to froyo camera performance is night and day. Pretty much useless at low light. I need low light. But I will never buy htc just because they update faster. Htc has their own awful hardware problens like under performing gpu and cpu.
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Hopefully enough people alert them to the camera and graphics issues. I think right now they are only worried about peoples sd card data being randomly deleted.
Just got off phone with advanced tech support for sprint talking to them about the updates, and i said you know why im calling she said yes, I said why am i calling she said because of the low light issue and the update, I said exactly. she said and I quote " samsung is aware of the issue and the solution they have said will fix it is to do a master reset"
I for one find this irrittating as a solution. im not doing it just cuz my camera cant see low light
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Just got off phone with advanced tech support for sprint talking to them about the updates, and i said you know why im calling she said yes, I said why am i calling she said because of the low light issue and the update, I said exactly. she said and I quote " samsung is aware of the issue and the solution they have said will fix it is to do a master reset"
I for one find this irrittating as a solution. im not doing it just cuz my camera cant see low light
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how u do a master reset? U mean the 768 dial code? Or odin flash?