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So far, A+. Not a really huge update, but well worth it. Overall smoother, Big difference in video quality and audio. flash works good. Battery life better.
How do i post video's? (says invalid file type) sorry kind of a dummy
How would you describe the video quality? I did some in-house testing with mine and found it to be pretty weak still...no empirical testing though. I was mainly interested to see if we could get rid of the damn chop when in lower light settings (not that low though).
I thought the choppiness was much better. I set to H.264.
I have 2 short comparison videos, if I can figure out how to upload!
yeah I've heard the H.264 is pretty good now but the real deal is the 720p and it SUCKS still. I mean who wants to go around saying "You want to see my H.264 video recorded on my phone?" No....I want to say "hells yeah, 720p looks damn good now!".
Anyways, maybe we will get 720p on H.264 soon!
I give up. If you want to see the video's go to:
youtube. search 1970dca
Updated to rooted deodexed 2.2, its great, but I can't find the tapatalk pro app in market... can anyone else confirm this?
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svinyard said:
yeah I've heard the H.264 is pretty good now but the real deal is the 720p and it SUCKS still. I mean who wants to go around saying "You want to see my H.264 video recorded on my phone?" No....I want to say "hells yeah, 720p looks damn good now!".
Anyways, maybe we will get 720p on H.264 soon!
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This is a work in progress... check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7390531&highlight=xml#post7390531
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So far, A+. Not a really huge update, but well worth it. Overall smoother, Big difference in video quality and audio. flash works good. Battery life better.
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well i will have to say using wifi and gps on all day i am setting at 13 hours unplugged and still have half of the battery.
when i was on 1.32 i could not get more then about 4 hours of use from it. so i am happy with that. i hope that on tue. that it gets even better.
but as far as everything else no issue here.
My battery life has seemed to drop off drastically. Almost back to as bad as it was with 1.32. I can almost watch my battery drop. hopefully tuesday official release fixes this.
My battery life suck as well going to 2.2. The signal/ reception is terrible for me as well with 2.2. Definately hope the "Official release" is better or I'LL be rooting.
2.2
my battery life is still puke even on 3g but my signal strength has improved greatly. i use to never, and i mean never, be able to connect to 4g at my house. since flashing 2.2, not only does it connect, i also get 4-5 megs down
My battery life is a lot worst now. but I can now connect to and use 4G. Before, i can see the 4G sign for like 15 sec and then it would disappear.
I get great battery life now and 4g. I am loving the leaked 2.2. I am looking forward to the official Froyo so people will work on the root again. Not that I need it especially, but wouldn't mind having it just to delete the Sprint stuff.
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How come everyone has gotten this update but me?!?! I just checked manually and it said there were no updates found. WTF
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How come everyone has gotten this update but me?!?! I just checked manually and it said there were no updates found. WTF
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Not a lot of people have, I think maybe one or two people claim they've gotten it from a pull. Wait for 8/3 to get the official release, it will be less likely to brick your phone or have bugs. I've been checking since Friday.
There's also a bug where any notifications or Google Navigation voice prompt kicks in, your music pauses and does not resume. Did not happen in 2.1
I love how people are crying about the 2.2 update that they downloaded and installed and was told by HTC and Sprint that it was not the official update. I want to know if anybody in this thread that is crying about the update got there update OTA. If they did, I will take what I said back, if not, quit your *****ing about a non-official update.
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There's also a bug where any notifications or Google Navigation voice prompt kicks in, your music pauses and does not resume. Did not happen in 2.1
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that is an annoying bug . had to go back to 2.1 until I was done with my road trip
Same here, battery life has been noticably worse with the leaked update.
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I love how people are crying about the 2.2 update that they downloaded and installed and was told by HTC and Sprint that it was not the official update. I want to know if anybody in this thread that is crying about the update got there update OTA. If they did, I will take what I said back, if not, quit your *****ing about a non-official update.
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Somebody pee in your corn flakes?
For those that remember, I dropped my streak cracking the screen. o2 gave me a new one - I shall be far more careful in the future.
Anyways I just upgraded to the 2.1, and prior to this (on 1.6) I liked the phone (but didn't love it as I did my HTC Desire and HD2).
However, with the new firmware, the phone is a million times better. The live wall paper looks amazing on the 5" screen, there is a really cool one with various music visualizations. What is even more impressive is the live wallpaper can be tilted up and down, its 3D!
The phone is a lot snappier and more responsive. There is definitely less lag when switching screens or opening programs.
The new dialer and gallery programs look a lot nicer. To be honest the dialer on 1.6 was really depressing.
BUT
The deal maker for me - The camera is infinitely better. There is no longer any shutter lag (which plagued the 1.6) and photos in dark conditions are better, and whilst the 720p video won't rival a sony handcam it is a massive improvement.
All in all very impressed. This should keep me going till the desire HD comes out!
a positive 2.1 review. im really hoping i will be able to get 2.1 on my US streak because i think thats what will make the phone for me.
what fps u gettin with 720p ... some ppl are sayin like 8fps ... ?
The camcorder captures above 8fps, but its certainly not 25/30fps. I would estimate 18fps.
Here is a video I took earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPAoNRcaMPY&feature=channel
It's far better than 1.6 but the keyboard is REALLY horrible, very slow and no numpad and I make far more mistakes than the previous keyboard...
i thought it was supposed to be 24fps. which i think is rediculously slow but what do you expect, its a phone.
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The camcorder captures above 8fps, but its certainly not 25/30fps. I would estimate 18fps.
Here is a video I took earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPAoNRcaMPY&feature=channel
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I've noticed with it that the fps jumps about a bit but cant really complain as this 2.1 build does feel like a beta so.
The final 2.1 may be 24fps who knows but it is an improvement whatever fps it is
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The camcorder captures above 8fps, but its certainly not 25/30fps. I would estimate 18fps.
Here is a video I took earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPAoNRcaMPY&feature=channel
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you dont need to estimate.. you can get the info from inside the camera app.
i bet it will depend on room lighting. if you have 2.1, try in high light and low light. also try with lower video resolutions.
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15fps on the cam apparently....damm
Well ever since i got my streak on release date i've loved it
Had been waiting on 2.1 as i knew this would make the phone even better and oh boy it's really amazing.
The live wallpapers, currently using beautiful widgets live wallpaper n it's a real eyecatcher for all my mates, so much so 2 mates r upgrading to it.
I've only got one problem in that i couldn't wait to get flash.... bbc iplayer full site on my streak...heaven... n here is the problem.. can i get flash 10.1 to download..nope.. really frustrating as it would be great.
if u like big phones then this is the phone for u, u'll not be dissapointed.
But if someone can help with the flash prob then pleeeeaassee let me know
Ev vern if you can download flash you won't get it to work as it designed to work on 2.2. Some one has tried this.
I am also looking forward to getting flash.....just wish dell would hurry up
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So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.
I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L
I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.
The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!
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I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..
It's been about 3 months since I last saw a thread about updating the camera on the Evo. That was right around the time CM was updating the Evo to actually play in 720p, since than has there been in new work done? Im still appalled how a great phone can have such a weak camera lol.
Any progress or so? The H.264 on the stock Froyo build is trash lol.
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It's been about 3 months since I last saw a thread about updating the camera on the Evo. That was right around the time CM was updating the Evo to actually play in 720p, since than has there been in new work done? Im still appalled how a great phone can have such a weak camera lol.
Any progress or so? The H.264 on the stock Froyo build is trash lol.
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Don't think so but the camera on cm is awesome....
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I was wondering the same thing.. will there ever be any progress on the camera? I have the 0004 hardware an its still a really weak camera. CM6 does improve it but not much. Is there anything someone can do to improve this camera?
Bump? Anyway to get the CM camera .apk without being rooted? Lol.
Theres alot of chatter on this. This is the deal breaker for some of us so please post if there is a solution at all on any version of froyo. Some say the camera blur is on all the leaks and the final EB13. Is that true?
I just tested it...
My camera was extremely unusable just now. But yesterday, I was able to record a basketball game perfectly indoors.
This was not present in dk28.
Dk28 actually had great lowlight useability... I recorded a few videos out in the park around midnight without flash and they were easily viewable. Flash was just a plus.
But now seeing this problem I might actually go back to dk28...I realllllly don't want to, but ima need the camera to work in low light...
I thought it was just recording laggy, but the playback was exactly the same
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I wonder if anybodys tried it with the OC kernel...it could possibly make up for the lag that is present. I don't think there will be a solution here on xda anyone soon, IMHO. This all seems to be a camera driver issue as I believe samsung changed the inherent behavior of the camera.
but this is all speculation of course
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You know... I thought it was just me aswell. I reflashed the samsung tool again. After a full boot up, launched camera. It was actually better but not eclair better, then I did the prl update and profile update, reboot and now its it worse! This is actualy good news. Meaning that its just a software bug.
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I wonder if anybodys tried it with the OC kernel...it could possibly make up for the lag that is present. I don't think there will be a solution here on xda anyone soon, IMHO. This all seems to be a camera driver issue as I believe samsung changed the inherent behavior of the camera.
but this is all speculation of course
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oh yeah. I used 1.2 genocide. No help, just as blurry.
inconsistent
The camera on the Epic has been inconsistent even before upgrading to Android 2.2. Sometimes the images rival a good point-n-shoot but only when there is plenty of light. The fact that the camera sticks out and collects smudges just from holding the phone does not help.
I have had better luck playing with the ISO and other settings. Even just leaving the camera in Macro seems to produce better results.
Is there a better camera app?
I wonder if anyone's had any luck installing the eclair camera app?
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I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
Is there a way to change it t 3gp? I don't think a lot of texting 0hones can handle mp4 lol
And has anyon tried a 3rd party camera app?
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Is there a way to change it t 3gp? I don't think a lot of texting 0hones can handle mp4 lol
And has anyon tried a 3rd party camera app?
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I don't think a 3rd party app will make a difference as far as quality. The drivers are the issue.
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I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
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It is NOT a 3GP issue. I am running DK28 Quantum ROM and there are NO camera issues at all. I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
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I dont think do. Maybe the outcome of the video should be effected but not the live feed on the screen. I haven't tried the apk from eclair, but I have tried the dk28 on eclair. It FC.
ZenInsight said:
It is NOT a 3GP issue. I am running DK28 Quantum ROM and there are NO camera issues at all. I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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ill try that rom in about 3 hours. I need to see if its true since aloe of people have said that this camera blue is on ALL froyos.
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ill try that rom in about 3 hours. I need to see if its true since aloe of people have said that this camera blue is on ALL froyos.
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You may have to take into account that a couple of these dk28 roms have some pretty nice enhancements and tweaks that might make the issue seem less severe.
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You may have to take into account that a couple of these dk28 roms have some pretty nice enhancements and tweaks that might make the issue seem less severe.
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I was running the stock DK28 rom downloaded from Google when it was first leaked and I had zero problems with the camera.
I own a pretty dimly lit store, and I took several videos in there with the phone that I posted to YouTube showing off our products, with DK28. Now with EB13, the camera is useless in the same store with the same light.
This was not a problem with DK28. It's not Froyo. It's EB13 that's the problem.
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I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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Considering it took them 6 months to crank out this mess, you could be waiting an eternity for something better.
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Considering it took them 6 months to crank out this mess, you could be waiting an eternity for something better.
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thats my fear aswell. But sprint and samsung just pulled the update from their sites. So that means they do know of these issues anf realize it has to be pulled and fixed. But comparing eclair to froyo camera performance is night and day. Pretty much useless at low light. I need low light. But I will never buy htc just because they update faster. Htc has their own awful hardware problens like under performing gpu and cpu.
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thats my fear aswell. But sprint and samsung just pulled the update from their sites. So that means they do know of these issues anf realize it has to be pulled and fixed. But comparing eclair to froyo camera performance is night and day. Pretty much useless at low light. I need low light. But I will never buy htc just because they update faster. Htc has their own awful hardware problens like under performing gpu and cpu.
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Hopefully enough people alert them to the camera and graphics issues. I think right now they are only worried about peoples sd card data being randomly deleted.
Just got off phone with advanced tech support for sprint talking to them about the updates, and i said you know why im calling she said yes, I said why am i calling she said because of the low light issue and the update, I said exactly. she said and I quote " samsung is aware of the issue and the solution they have said will fix it is to do a master reset"
I for one find this irrittating as a solution. im not doing it just cuz my camera cant see low light
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Just got off phone with advanced tech support for sprint talking to them about the updates, and i said you know why im calling she said yes, I said why am i calling she said because of the low light issue and the update, I said exactly. she said and I quote " samsung is aware of the issue and the solution they have said will fix it is to do a master reset"
I for one find this irrittating as a solution. im not doing it just cuz my camera cant see low light
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how u do a master reset? U mean the 768 dial code? Or odin flash?