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I officially hate the vibrant!

It's official, after being on Android since its inception, I officially HATE the vibrant and I HATE Tmobile for not having phones like the EVO or Incredible and giving us that crappy HD worthless 2. I've had so many issues with this phone. And now the frustrations continue and I give up.
I flashed Eugene's Vibrant5 and the damn lag fix and rebooted my phone only to find that:
1. My entire voicemail box was erased and I had several unheard voicemails from today. I have to set my voicemail box up as if I never had one. I've never had this happen before and I don't know what on earth gives but i'm irritated
2. Now Windows 7 does not recognize my device so I can't get into ADB to flash JAC's Kernel. I went through a lot of frustration yesterday to finally get Windows 7 to recognize the device and now I'm back to square one. I refuse to go through the same crap to get Windows 7 to recognize my device, I installed the latest drivers so that's it, f*ck this phone. Who makes a phone with no L.E.Ds and a piece of sh*t battery life anyway???
I HATE THIS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!

So, you hate the phone because YOU took the risk of modifying and now you don't like the results?? Flashing your phone has nothing to do with your voicemail since your phone doesn't host voiceemail box, so not sure what you did there.
Did you research the phone before you bought it? Hope your within the 14 day window to return it.

Cya later then.
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Typos, incorrect words, gibberish, and other nonsense brought to you courtesy of Swype.

justanothergirl said:
It's official, after being on Android since its inception, I officially HATE the vibrant and I HATE Tmobile for not having phones like the EVO or Incredible and giving us that crappy HD worthless 2. I've had so many issues with this phone. And now the frustrations continue and I give up.
I flashed Eugene's Vibrant5 and the damn lag fix and rebooted my phone only to find that:
1. My entire voicemail box was erased and I had several unheard voicemails from today. I have to set my voicemail box up as if I never had one. I've never had this happen before and I don't know what on earth gives but i'm irritated
2. Now Windows 7 does not recognize my device so I can't get into ADB to flash JAC's Kernel. I went through a lot of frustration yesterday to finally get Windows 7 to recognize the device and now I'm back to square one. I refuse to go through the same crap to get Windows 7 to recognize my device, I installed the latest drivers so that's it, f*ck this phone. Who makes a phone with no L.E.Ds and a piece of sh*t battery life anyway???
I HATE THIS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!
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The voicemail thing is a Tmobile issue, not the phone. It's how Tmobile has decided to implement VVM on android. It's lame and happens even if you had gone back to a completely stock rom. You shouldn't have lost your messages tho, just install the app and refresh your inbox, they should all be there again.
As for your other problem, are you using Windows 7 64bit? For some reason there are issues with some 64bit Windows 7 machines and the Samsug drivers.
I've got 2 computers running 64bit one works perfectly the other some things work some don't. I have several other Windows 7 32bit systems and they all work without any issue. I think this problem has been mentioned in several of the Odin threads for what it's worth.

Sounds like someone got over their head with different MODs to their phone and can't figure out a way back. Complaining about a phone because Windows won't recognize it sounds like you have a problem with Windows and not Samsung. Maybe you ought to flash the stock ROM and wait for more "user-friendly" MODs to come along. Day by day I am slowly not wanting to even look here for info on my phone due to moronic posts like this.

I'm with tweak on this one... Sounds like you're angry at the modifications you've tried to apply and failed at. The lagfix is a beta mod thats extremely risky since it uses EXT2 format and the data can be easily corrupted if the phone powers down abruptly. The stock vibrant is a very fast and stable phone (I came from a Nexus One and i love the vibrant).
Are you sure you "set up" your visual voicemail app? I find it hard to beleive the phone some how "deleted" your VM's. that just doesnt make sense, since they're not even stored on the phone. try dialing 1.
Good luck with your next phone.

No one cares. I don't get why people randomly rant.

Ill buy it for the $100 its on sale for today through tmobile. Pm me!

Bye bye, have fun with your new sheep phone ...

I bet justanothergirl is some fat dude on an iphone, look at all the thread titles HE/she has started:
I officially hate the vibrant!
Unhappy
And The Annoyance Continues!
Go to first new post Widgets?
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Go to first new post Grrrr, Why Me! Help
Help!! How To Flash A New IMEI # ??

Time of the month huh? WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Delete this **** please Moderator

LatinSilEighty said:
Time of the month huh? WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Delete this **** please Moderator
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Please delete this bull**** post please Moderator. Stock rooted Vibrant with slight mods and many apps just ROCKS.... All I get from others is WOW what a fantastic phone you got.
Hope you enjoy your Evo....

krichek said:
The voicemail thing is a Tmobile issue, not the phone. It's how Tmobile has decided to implement VVM on android. It's lame and happens even if you had gone back to a completely stock rom. You shouldn't have lost your messages tho, just install the app and refresh your inbox, they should all be there again.
As for your other problem, are you using Windows 7 64bit? For some reason there are issues with some 64bit Windows 7 machines and the Samsug drivers.
I've got 2 computers running 64bit one works perfectly the other some things work some don't. I have several other Windows 7 32bit systems and they all work without any issue. I think this problem has been mentioned in several of the Odin threads for what it's worth.
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No it's not Tmobile, I had flashed another rom and went back to stock using ODIN and my voicemail was fine, it only happened after I flashed Vibrant5 and the lagfix. I've had a lot of issues with this phone since day one so I'm obviously majorly annoyed. I know how to get back that's not the issue, I'm really annoyed with the phone in general, it's a great upgrade from the MyTouch and design wise I like it a bit better than my Nexus one but MODing this thing is irritating, I've never had issues with my Nexus, MyTouch or G1 so it's not me. The samsung drivers are just lame. I prefer using ADB and it's just really annoying. I have 3 other phones and I can easily sell this one for much more than I bought it for, I paid $109 corporate discount and I'm tempted to put this b*tch on Craigslist for $350 and I know it would sell today. But then I'd be left with my nexus one which I like but am bored with, I modded the hell out of it already, so I don't know, I think I'm just going to switch back to my Nexus one until my stress levels decrease.

justanothergirl said:
No it's not Tmobile, I had flashed another rom and went back to stock using ODIN and my voicemail was fine, it only happened after I flashed Vibrant5 and the lagfix.
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I've got 2 Vibrant's beside me as I type this. I've tried several different versions of the lag fix as well as a few of the roms (deodexed, Vibrant, etc) on both. EVERY one of them requires VVM to be re-setup as does the stock rom if/when you revert to it via Odin. In every case your messages are still there once you have reloaded/re-synced the app. Not sure why you would consider that something to blame the phone for, it's part of setting everything back up after a flash as far as I see it.
P.S. If you don't think part of the problem is Tmobile, go check out a Droid or Droid X and see how different and better integrated VVM is on those devices.
P.P.S. For clarification above I meant to say everytime a new ROM is flashed, I've never had to re-setup VVM for the lag fix etc..

justanothergirl said:
No it's not Tmobile, I had flashed another rom and went back to stock using ODIN and my voicemail was fine,
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So you think krichek is lying?
justanothergirl said:
it only happened after I flashed Vibrant5 and the lagfix.
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Ok, so this is the actual problem, do not use Vibrant5 and the lagfix together? Thanks for the advice.
justanothergirl said:
I've had a lot of issues with this phone since day one so I'm obviously majorly annoyed. I know how to get back that's not the issue, I'm really annoyed with the phone in general, it's a great upgrade from the MyTouch and design wise I like it a bit better than my Nexus one but MODing this thing is irritating, I've never had issues with my Nexus, MyTouch or G1 so it's not me. The samsung drivers are just lame. I prefer using ADB and it's just really annoying.
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The only issue I have had so far is that my time zone tick does not stick when I reboot the phone so everyday I have to re-untick it so that the time dont change on me when I drive into Texas, which I have to do 5 days a week for my employer. Other than that it works perfectly on Windows 7 64bit here. Still wish we had linux support though. lol
justanothergirl said:
I have 3 other phones and I can easily sell this one for much more than I bought it for, I paid $109 corporate discount and I'm tempted to put this b*tch on Craigslist for $350 and I know it would sell today. But then I'd be left with my nexus one which I like but am bored with, I modded the hell out of it already, so I don't know, I think I'm just going to switch back to my Nexus one until my stress levels decrease.
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Yeah, for that price I would also sell it, but I would turn around and buy a new one. I LOVE my Vibrant. All it really lacks is Dev support and it sounds to me that is your only real issue also, crappy drivers and lack of dev support. My GF loves her Evo, so you should probably change carriers and get one of them instead. Oh and my brother loves his Incredible to, both are very nice phones.
good luck

I think user is suffering from the ID10T error.
Has anyone found a fix?

s15274n said:
I bet justanothergirl is some fat dude on an iphone, look at all the thread titles HE/she has started:
I officially hate the vibrant!
Unhappy
And The Annoyance Continues!
Go to first new post Widgets?
Thumbs down
Go to first new post Grrrr, Why Me! Help
Help!! How To Flash A New IMEI # ??
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Sounds like a chick to me.
Not sent from my Vibrant using XDA App 'cause I returned it.

vibrant is not a bad phone...its a REALLY good phone, does everyhting i need it to...

So basically what I get out of this is your upset because you don't know how to install drivers on Windows 7 and that the device is not fully mod ready from day one? HTC Android devices have been here since the start (G1), that is why there is such high support and why the turn around is so quick for them to be modded. The Galaxy S series is Samsungs first "real" attempt at a powerful Android device. ADB works fine, learn to install the drivers. The only real issue with the device is the GPS which is already been acknowledged. Also voicemail is hosted not stored. Installing roms and modding your phone does not affect your voicemail. God I hate stupid people, mods please delete this thread.
OP your best bet is to get an iPhone and leave us alone - thanks.

Its been what a month or so since the phone has been out?
If you where truly here when the G1 first hit then you seriously can not talk about frustration.

Paranoid about the warranty!

Hello!
Just got my Epic 4G a few days ago and I'm already itching to root it, but I'm paranoid about the warranty. Sprint rep told me that they were anal about it and it would void it.
I used to have a Nexus One with T-Mobile and I was flashing new ROMs and kernels almost every day. I've always been a 'nerd' so I know what it all means and how to do it... but there's that lingering warranty in my mind. I was worried about it at first on my Nexus One, but eventually rooted and unlocked the bootloader even though I knew it meant the warranty went byebye.
Can someone offer me some piece of mind? Are these things easy to un-root? Is there any way that a Sprint tech could find out if it was ever rooted should I ever need to take advantage of the warranty?
I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure if it's worth it. I am not going to flash custom ROMs (yes, I miss FroYo, but I'm content)... the only reason I'm interested in rooting is for things like AdFree, Juice Defender, and removing stock apps.
Thoughts?

99% of Sprint reps not only could never tell your phones been rooted without seeing a different boot screen, but don't even know what root is.

Ryjabo said:
Hello!
Just got my Epic 4G a few days ago and I'm already itching to root it, but I'm paranoid about the warranty. Sprint rep told me that they were anal about it and it would void it.
I used to have a Nexus One with T-Mobile and I was flashing new ROMs and kernels almost every day. I've always been a 'nerd' so I know what it all means and how to do it... but there's that lingering warranty in my mind. I was worried about it at first on my Nexus One, but eventually rooted and unlocked the bootloader even though I knew it meant the warranty went byebye.
Can someone offer me some piece of mind? Are these things easy to un-root? Is there any way that a Sprint tech could find out if it was ever rooted should I ever need to take advantage of the warranty?
I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure if it's worth it. I am not going to flash custom ROMs (yes, I miss FroYo, but I'm content)... the only reason I'm interested in rooting is for things like AdFree, Juice Defender, and removing stock apps.
Thoughts?
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Nothing to worry about... If you have to take your phone back to the store just Odin back to stock and problem solve. Everything is on the Wiki.

063_XOBX said:
99% of Sprint reps not only could never tell your phones been rooted without seeing a different boot screen, but don't even know what root is.
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exactly! I took my epic in back in November to complain about battery management issue I was having and to swap out for a new one. I told the rep what a bummer it was that I had to re-install all my apps and he said
"naw man, you can just save everything on your sd card no problem. that's what its there for!"
to which I replied, "only on froyo, and only if you install the leaked dk28 build"
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Yeah they don't even know.if a phone is rooted or not. Besides just like people aid previously just use Odin and it.flashes it.back to stock. Its a lifesaver sometimes.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

Some older phones used to have flash counters, and I don't know if the epic has one. Typically they are buried deep in inaccessible areas and I doubt that any sprint store would have the wherewithal to get at it. I'm sure that Samsung could probably tell, but when Sprint sends them back they just throw them in a big box. The point of accountability is at the store where you exchange for another one. So either odin back to stock or short out the hardware and sprint will be none the wiser.
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Top Nurse said:
Some older phones used to have flash counters, and I don't know if the epic has one. Typically they are buried deep in inaccessible areas and I doubt that any sprint store would have the wherewithal to get at it. I'm sure that Samsung could probably tell, but when Sprint sends them back they just throw them in a big box. The point of accountability is at the store where you exchange for another one. So either odin back to stock or short out the hardware and sprint will be none the wiser.
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Yeah, there is actually a code that you can bring up to see if the phone is a refurb'd or not. I did that on mine and it was definately new.

Thanks for all the replies.
Rooted today using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808103
No problems.
Now if only there was a Gingerbread ROM...

Ryjabo said:
Now if only there was a Gingerbread ROM...
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Don't even start

Darkk69 said:
Yeah, there is actually a code that you can bring up to see if the phone is a refurb'd or not. I did that on mine and it was definately new.
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I did too and with the code check it shows new but hey do you believe that I don't cuz if we can make the phone looks unrooted with Odin they can make their own phone to appear as brand new.
dito33
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[Q] questions from a Droid user maybe coming to sprint

I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.

Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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iSaint said:
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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Thanks for the link!

I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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cpcormier3 said:
I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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jbadboy2007 said:
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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cpcormier3 said:
Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.

I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck

I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.

063_XOBX said:
YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.

063_XOBX said:
I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!

cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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jbadboy2007 said:
I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........

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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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[Q] Hard Reset not Resetting

Hello friends,
For reasons I do not even want to bother to understand, as I am on the waiting list for the Evo 3D and will never again buy any Samsung product, though I would like to have at least basic mobile phone capabilities until the end of June, my Epic has died. It got to the point I would have to remove the battery every 10 minutes and restart. I would get all these Touchwiz errors. So I decided to hard reset, at least so I could have a phone. I'll reinstall apps when I get my Evo 3D. So I removed the SD card, and went to Settings-Security and initiated a hard reset. That was four hours ago and the SAMSUNG logo is appearing as when you restart the device, and staying put. Is the hard reset this long? What should I do? This phone, which I've had since last fall, has been the worst experience of my life, and that doesn't even count the Froyo fiasco of a few months ago. Good riddance to Samsung. I bought a Moto Xoom, which has worked flawlessly over the past month on Honeycomb. It's nice to know that there are some Android devices that don't cause so much pain and suffering that you want to scream as does this horrid Samsung phone. But I need a phone for the next 2 and a half weeks before the Evo 3D makes an appearance, so I would dearly love to know what to do at this point! Thanks in advance.

Hard reset shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 minutes.
Is your phone rooted? Are you on a custom ROM? Do you know how to use ODIN?

Thanks.
poit said:
Hard reset shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 minutes.
Is your phone rooted? Are you on a custom ROM? Do you know how to use ODIN?
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Thanks. I am/was rooted. I do have ODIN but need a refresher.

Roots his phone, has issues, incorrectly tries to do a recovery and it's Samsung's fault...

drplaud said:
Thanks. I am/was rooted. I do have ODIN but need a refresher.
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Recommend you follow the instructions in this thread.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
Read it carefully, Do exactly as it says. Do NOT unplug the phone until they tell you to.
Good luck.

Seems like some people like to generate heat and no light...
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Roots his phone, has issues, incorrectly tries to do a recovery and it's Samsung's fault...
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I am looking for assistance, not your petty judgment. The root issue had to do with a recommendation from this very forum. Thank you for your non-help. Yet another reason that I wish to leave Samsung forums. I hope Samsung is paying you for your good work.

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Recommend you follow the instructions in this thread.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
Read it carefully, Do exactly as it says. Do NOT unplug the phone until they tell you to.
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Thank you very much. I will do so, and again thank you for helping rather than criticizing as in that other fellow's reply. Where do those people come from?

The thing is u blame samsung for all of it when it probably was user error. But u don't want to hear that.
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons

drplaud said:
Hello friends,
For reasons I do not even want to bother to understand
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Aka pebcak
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drplaud said:
Thank you very much. I will do so, and again thank you for helping rather than criticizing as in that other fellow's reply. Where do those people come from?
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Just need to mention that my first instinct was to criticize too. It comes from the tone and attitude of your original post. Most of us in this group like our Epics, and in my case it has been the best phone I have ever owned. I have found that the few problems I have had with it have come from my mistakes, installing poorly designed ROMS, etc. I'm back on the stock Sprint ROM and have a rock solid well performing phone. Maybe you have a lemon, but without knowing the history I'm not going to judge.
Anyway, best of luck getting the phone revived.

Got it to work.
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Just need to mention that my first instinct was to criticize too. It comes from the tone and attitude of your original post. Most of us in this group like our Epics, and in my case it has been the best phone I have ever owned. I have found that the few problems I have had with it have come from my mistakes, installing poorly designed ROMS, etc. I'm back on the stock Sprint ROM and have a rock solid well performing phone. Maybe you have a lemon, but without knowing the history I'm not going to judge.
Anyway, best of luck getting the phone revived.
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I followed POIT's recommendations, and I have my phone back, worked like a charm, thanks. I understand the issues, but this phone has been a challenge. When I got it I was "promised" a 2.2 upgrade within weeks, quickly ran out of space with no ability to put apps on the SD card, and then what ensued was four months of FROYO chaos. Enough. I hope you all enjoy your Epics, shortly I'll be in Evo 3D land, and I think more content.
Once again, to those who helped, many thanks, especially POIT.

drplaud said:
I am looking for assistance, not your petty judgment. The root issue had to do with a recommendation from this very forum. Thank you for your non-help. Yet another reason that I wish to leave Samsung forums. I hope Samsung is paying you for your good work.
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First off, when a person seems to know enough to go and root their phone yet doesn't bother to go about finding the information to setting it back to stock which is a sticky in the dev section, yes I'm going to make note.
When a person goes and creates problems for themselves and then wants to blame the product for their own inability to follow directions and be ready for a failure, that person needs to learn the hard way, I'm sorry ignorance should be painful.
Now, I wish I was being paid by Samsung, hell, I'd take a free WiThin, but alas I'm not, I actually came over from the EVO because I had too many issues with it.
I'm one of the first people to call a company out for a poor product or poor service, in this case the issue arrived from neither, the issue was your own doing.
I made some of the same mistakes and semi-bricked my Epic, I was able to Odin it back to stock by reading how to on this forum, not by posting a thread bashing the Epic because I was too lazy, impatient and ignorant to educate myself.

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... not by posting a thread bashing the Epic because I was too lazy, impatient and ignorant to educate myself.
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Your quote above speaks volumes about yourself. You do not spend your time assisting others, instead insulting them, calling them names. Apparently this community should be in reverence to someone of your self-described qualities. I am not lazy, a bit impatient, and not ignorant. Perhaps I don't have your skills in searching through archives, but I think the skill you might want to focus on for yourself in the future concerns developing social skills. Why would you want to contribute or be a member of a forum when instead of assisting you decide to deride? I have had many issues with the Epic these past nine months, and God forbid a little bit of my frustration bubbled to the surface. I am about to leave this forum for good (thanking again those who did assist me), and so there will be one less person for you to insult.

This threads abit useless so I have a question.
How do u do Hard reset? My phone locked up once and I held idk what buttons for like 1min and it rebooted. But now idk what or how I did it =(
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Shoulon said:
This threads abit useless so I have a question.
How do u do Hard reset? My phone locked up once and I held idk what buttons for like 1min and it rebooted. But now idk what or how I did it =(
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Use Odin. The hard reset wont help /system/ corruption (TW, etc.). You have to odin or flash a rom at this point. Pull battery, hold 1 on keyboard and power, set up odin/heimdall on computer, plug in phone, flash using odin.
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marcusant said:
Use Odin. The hard reset wont help /system/ corruption (TW, etc.). You have to odin or flash a rom at this point. Pull battery, hold 1 on keyboard and power, set up odin/heimdall on computer, plug in phone, flash using odin.
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soo... there are no reboot steps? like original non smartphones had? (Hold power til ur finger hurts?)

Shoulon said:
soo... there are no reboot steps? like original non smartphones had? (Hold power til ur finger hurts?)
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Oh... on froyo its power, volume up and camera. On GB, there is nothing but a good old fashion battery pull.
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never mind

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never mind
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believe me i know how you feel... =/
you get thanks cause iknow you tried. =)

idea for ya
drplaud said:
Hello friends,
For reasons I do not even want to bother to understand, as I am on the waiting list for the Evo 3D and will never again buy any Samsung product, though I would like to have at least basic mobile phone capabilities until the end of June, my Epic has died. It got to the point I would have to remove the battery every 10 minutes and restart. I would get all these Touchwiz errors. So I decided to hard reset, at least so I could have a phone. I'll reinstall apps when I get my Evo 3D. So I removed the SD card, and went to Settings-Security and initiated a hard reset. That was four hours ago and the SAMSUNG logo is appearing as when you restart the device, and staying put. Is the hard reset this long? What should I do? This phone, which I've had since last fall, has been the worst experience of my life, and that doesn't even count the Froyo fiasco of a few months ago. Good riddance to Samsung. I bought a Moto Xoom, which has worked flawlessly over the past month on Honeycomb. It's nice to know that there are some Android devices that don't cause so much pain and suffering that you want to scream as does this horrid Samsung phone. But I need a phone for the next 2 and a half weeks before the Evo 3D makes an appearance, so I would dearly love to know what to do at this point! Thanks in advance.
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later man hope the evo treats you better

Its been a good run.

Well, after some misinformed past rumors, I am finally leaving the Evo. I make this thread not because I feel like I'm 'important' or that anyone will care, but because of the community. Despite the past ICS fallout between users and developers, the Evo community has been one of the best on XDA, and can say that it was nice being apart of it. Made some good friends, and a few enemies, but comes with the territory. I'll still pop in from time to time, but I know I will see some of you in my new home, the Galaxy S III [will be here tomorrow]. Do keep the Evo name standing, as its a great device.

See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha

mazdarider23 said:
See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha
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Oh yea. I'm on the grid...just a different sector.

Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!

HipKat said:
Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!
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And the same to you man, you got me on my feet so I could actually 'talk' about MIUI, instead taking a back seat educated speculation.

gtfo noob juust messing i'll be over shortly

Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.

plainjane said:
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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No need to be sad, and you can always hit me up on gtalk when you're on. You've got a ton of gold stars now, I've lost count. And I've seen you helping others, when you may not have thought me around. And you're very welcome, I'm glad to hear that...made me smile.
I'm still going to be around here, as I have a horded amount of knowledge...this was my first smart phone, and I think I made a great choice. I'll definitely let you know about the review, and can send you spec info.

plainjane said:
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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Yeah! Where the hell HAVE you been?? (In my nicest voice)

If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.

add me on gtalk anytime, bro
https://plus.google.com/101894158128702445895

Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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add me on gtalk anytime, bro
https://plus.google.com/101894158128702445895
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*Salutes* Shall do
evo4gnoob said:
Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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No worries man; you've learned a lot. And I'm still gona be here to help out. I'm free this weekend, you can pwn me in some MW3...lol. And you'll have some friends waiting for you.
But at this moment *new futurama*

teh roxxorz said:
Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.
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Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
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Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.

teh roxxorz said:
Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.
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That's cool they seperated the kernel from the recovery now, on the ET4G there's no normal boot.img its called a zImage and has the kernel and recovery in the same partition so flashing a kernel changes your recovery. It can get quite confusing going from rom to rom and build to build and having to remember which recovery which backup was made with so you can Odin it to restore we still don't have official ICS or kernel source yet so flashing ICS roms requires first flashing a GB kernel with pure CWM to avoid a blue light of death brick. Talk about confusing, it took me a week of reading before I had the balls to try ICS but now I can mOdin el26+cwm kernel and flash ICS in my sleep. I've been running aokp since march never went back to gb except the few times I bootlooped and had to Odin to el29(latest GB ota) and start fresh. Once you get a feel for it and get any questions you have lingering out of the way its painless but the first few times you're sweating missles waiting to it to flash and boot and praying you didn't just brick, LOL. My first venture to ICS I chewed off all my nails while flashing it, I was so nervous I forgot something and was gonna fry my eMMC chip and be bricked.
ETA: what's even worse for me is I have 4 different manufacturers devices all different methods of flashing and its hard keeping it all straight, going from HTC, to Amazon to Motorola to Samsung and trying to remember which one you flash how is an exercise in frustration :banghead:
We are legion, for we are many.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM

HipKat said:
Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM
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Its just a pain in the ass for recovery, only because every time you change kernels if the new one has a different recovery your recovery then changes. On the et4g we have cwm, rogue and acs custom recoveries, and not all backups are compatible across all recoveries so you gotta try and keep track of what goes with what since we have to use the el26 kernel with pure cwm recovery to safely flash ICS without bricking I use it for everything recovery, but that requires me to Odin the el26 kernel everytime I need to do something in recovery and since I run ICS I then have to flash an ICS kernel to reboot my phone. Its more of a hassle/annoyance than anything just cuz of all the extra steps required to flash/backup etc
We are legion, for we are many.

Do not forget us! Do not forget us! Good Luck in that new Galaxy.
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