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Switching to Evo

Alright, so after permantely bricking my phone twice and frustrated with Samsung's/Sprint's lack of support in FroYo, I've decided I'm going to be switching over to the Evo.
One question, if I complain to them that there is a defect in their system since the same problem has happened twice within a month, do you think they will let me switch over to the Evo, and if so, how much would that cost?
Edit: Also, could I use my SD card/battery for this phone?

from what I know, you have to exchange your phone 3 times for the same reason.

good for u. at least some of the epic users are standing up and doing something about their bs. ima wait it out like a wuss

Vertig0 said:
from what I know, you have to exchange your phone 3 times for the same reason.
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Then I'll lie and say this was the third time.
If it wasn't in their records, I'm sure I could just say something like the one you gave me immediately was defective so this technically is my third phone.
I'm honestly done with Samsung.

acer1096xxx said:
Then I'll lie and say this was the third time.
If it wasn't in their records, I'm sure I could just say something like the one you gave me immediately was defective so this technically is my third phone.
I'm honestly done with Samsung.
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Honestly I think you'll regret it when froyo gets released on the Epic =/ but its your choice!
Good luck,
D3luSi0n4L

D3luSi0n4L said:
Honestly I think you'll regret it when froyo gets released on the Epic =/ but its your choice!
Good luck,
D3luSi0n4L
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Lol, I probably will. The thing is though, with the evo, they get a lot more updates at least. I don't need the keyboard. I've seen the resolution; not that bad, truthfully. Besides, the Sense UI looks really nice.
I just feel like Sprint and HTC notice the Evo a lot more in its flaws and are constantly trying to make it better.
I just don't want to be with Samsung anymore.
So does anyone know if it's three times or not?! If it is, I'll literally just break the next one.

Why not just walk into a store in your leisure, or call in to C.S and get the right info from the horse's mouth?
Or better still try and unbrick your Epic (might be possible if you expand on what "permanently bricked" it), sell in on C.L and buy an Evo.

Don't be ghetto. You broke your phone. Own up to it. It you want to switch, then switch. Vote with your buying power.

LordLugard said:
Why not just walk into a store in your leisure, or call in to C.S and get the right info from the horse's mouth?
Or better still try and unbrick your Epic (might be possible if you expand on what "permanently bricked" it), sell in on C.L and buy an Evo.
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Well bad news on that.
Apparently, there's no possible way I can switch the phone.
Unless...well, if I were to buy an Evo online, do you think they could activate it for me with the same number and everything even though I'm not eligible for an upgrade?

Yes. You should be able to activate it yourself.

What the hell did you do? I'm a noob ad I've modded my Epic a lot and never had a problem.

Toast95135 said:
What the hell did you do? I'm a noob ad I've modded my Epic a lot and never had a problem.
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Installed the Nebula Rom w/ EXT4.
I didn't know the Nebula ROM at the ext4 kernal baked in it, so after doing all the steps, I flashed the kernal and I think that's what happened to it.
I don't care though. I understand it's my fault but Samsung just pisses me off anyway.
And the fact that the Evo is not even a phone listed for trading the Epic in after a certain time is just crazy.
Two best phones on Sprint, and you can't even trade one for another.

It probably happened at band camp. One time....

I have to ask the obvious question. Did you try to use Odin to take it back to stock. Not saying it can't happen, but it's pretty damn hard to brick your phone.
The newer DK28 ROM's are using the EXT4 setup, RFS (or whatever it's called) is Samsungs, so if you are going to flash a newer ROM with the EXT4, then you will have to set your EPIC up for it. There are threads floating around for that, just search and read.
I myself am not happy with Samsungs support, but that's why I come here, we have some awesome devs that like our hardware! And our hardware is awesome!
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blutenchi said:
I have to ask the obvious question. Did you try to use Odin to take it back to stock. Not saying it can't happen, but it's pretty damn hard to brick your phone.
The newer DK28 ROM's are using the EXT4 setup, RFS (or whatever it's called) is Samsungs, so if you are going to flash a newer ROM with the EXT4, then you will have to set your EPIC up for it. There are threads floating around for that, just search and read.
I myself am not happy with Samsungs support, but that's why I come here, we have some awesome devs that like our hardware! And our hardware is awesome!
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Yes, I have tried. It CAN go into download mode, but the USB is unable to recognize it on three pcs and even a mac (running Heimdall, not Odin of course)
Unfortunately, I think I've learned my lesson and that I should just be patient with FroYo coming...it will come this month (at the end, most likely) I really hope, if not...oh well. I'm just going to have to be patient and satisfied with what I have. I am not going to make another mistake. Bringing it again would just cause even more suspicion anyway.

same problem here. Eventually it was recoginized as a samsung modem for some reason and the comport was recognized. trying using different cable and usb ports.

How do you permanently brick a phone twice?

ydoucare said:
How do you permanently brick a phone twice?
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Its hard to do I bet. Then again this guy basically admitted he has defrauded and was going to attempt to defraud a company on a public forum, so intelligence or lack there of might be a part of it.
I say HAS defrauded because I seriously doubt he told Sprint that he bricked his phone while flashing custom roms and that they replaced it.

If you really want to get rid of it then fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700#Odin_Stock_Flashing
Follow that and that will fix it. After that run the all in one 2.5.5 root and recovery and you'll be good to go. Use odin. I bought the overpriced micro usb cable at sprint and I've never had a problem with it on any phone. Wait until the official froyo comes out and download the tar from here or the zip clockworkmod flash update then root it. That's what I would/am doing. Yes I hate the epic but I don't have the money to get another evo right now. All my luck a new superphone will be released and I'll be stuck with the old stuff.
A few things I didn't like about the evo was the screen wasn't very bright, the battery life is bad, and the wifi/4g/3g reception sucks ass compared to the epic. The epic definitely hears the towers and wifi better.

acer1096xxx said:
Yes, I have tried. It CAN go into download mode, but the USB is unable to recognize it on three pcs and even a mac (running Heimdall, not Odin of course)
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On the Windows computers, did you make sure to have the Galaxy S drivers installed? You can't flash via Odin without installing the Galaxy S drivers - after that it should flash like clockwork...like a clockworkmod lol.

Calling it a Day!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to air my frustrations about the I9000. I have had this handset since it was released and its time to get rid.
I have been very patient with firmware updates and such....and it packs some brilliant hardware in theory but it just does not cut the mustard. I had the I8000 (Omnia 2) prior to this phone and it was exactly the same (except windows OS) because every time samsung brought out a new firmware it was still littered with bugs.
I know people Root their Handsets (I have done all the hacks and speedmods,etc) and rave about the speeds customisation,etc but i still get FCs and apps resetting themselves to default every so often with or without modding.
For example today i had no music showing in my music player but thought oh well....wait......wait. It appeared 10 minutes later. Recorded a video...or so i thought but nothing was saved. The Ringtones i have set are gone and i have to go through everything from scratch. This happens randomly maybe a few times a month. There is always something wrong somewhere and then i have to boot the I9000 down.....Everything is then fine for a while but always raises its ugly head at some point........WTF.
Now i hate to say it but i find myself drawn more and more to the iphone but feel like cutting my hands off or committing suicide for thinking these thoughts...they are blasphemous. I cannot help it though because i have grown to dislike the galaxy s and do not know any other handset that reviews say are better. Maybe its just the Android OS being generic and having to cater for a million different models of handset but surely then this is samsungs fault for not incorporating universal fixes.
If you read this and are deciding to get the galaxy s i would advise not to..... wait for something better now.

Well I have to say that JPY is a very decent firmware. I didn't have any major issue with it, it's fast (without any kind of lag fix) and it's stable . I rooted my SGS and got rid off Samsung's bloatware and I really like the phone now.
There's only two things that bother me, but it has nothing to do with software: I hate speaker position (international version) and also lack of flash/light.
So maybe you should buy a W7 or Symbian phone.
I don't know what to say to you, except you're doing something wrong if you're getting so many FC.
About the ringtones: I've experienced this problem when I deleted thumbnails from gallery (DCIM/thumbnails), at least I think it was because of that. Rebooted the phone and didn't delete the folder since then and never got the issue again.
So I would still recommend this phone, but it still depends on the person who gets it and for how much money.
Peace out.

dude ur phone has a virus. mine had one too exactly the same symptoms as your phone. did a reflash of 2.2 + factory reset phone is working like a charm now.

Im with the original OP. Way too many issues to deal with - I love what the device has to offer - but if I have to worry everytime go I to turn it on if it will work - its not worth it.
If I could have my SGS with the dependability and build quality of an HTC - that would be perfect (I use HTC as an example because all of the ones I have owned have been solid devices).

Yeah thanks opica.....should mention that only really get FCs with some apps that are obviously on the market but not meant for or tested properly on this handset...... overall i should clarify i dont get that many at all. Its mostly just the other things i have experienced such as recording a video and then the handset telling me that the MP4 file is unsupported, i reboot it still does not work so i record another video...this is also an mp4 file and plays. Its just **** like that constantly. I am on JPY but even that firmware gets confused every so often. Like i said i have had 2 samsung phones now both were flagship models at the time but both have fallen short because something this hyped should be the dogs bollocks. But they are not. Whoever says otherwise is kidding themselves IMO.

guys I totally sympathise because I have the voda 16GB SGS and it is fu**ing awful SW im not kidding Eg bbc news app takes about 3 mins to load plus it feezes up all the time to the point where it is unusable. I am unable to answer calls as it just shows the answer call screen but the screen is frozen and this is on the official 2.2 updated from sammy after a reset AHHHHH
However after speaking to and getting no where with samsung i decided i had a phone thats unusable and samsung are not doing a thing so my options were sell it and get an IP4 followed by shotgun insertion to mouth or just bite the bullet and flash a custom rom
WOW I installed darkys v8.0 and its is like a whole new phone that bbc news app now loads instantly no freezing no lagging no issues at all so far. Well besides battery life since I cant put the thing down now. Even WiFi connects in a second now. So amazing work by Darky and team.
Im not promoting this rom go choose our own but im just telling you guys i was in the same boat and now i love the SGS if your out of options and you love the hardware get a new rom.
Someone once said "buy a phone for its hardware capabilities then customize the SW to your specifications, then you will have your perfect phone"

Flash a custom FW? As someone else said, Darky's is a fine one to try.

Kenneth131 said:
Someone once said "buy a phone for its hardware capabilities then customize the SW to your specifications, then you will have your perfect phone"
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Exactly... There is loads of custom ROMs posted here on xda.
I had a feeling that the software will be pretty ****ty at the beginning, but I kinda hoped that some decent custom rom will come out, if samsung wasn't able to build one.
My first choice would be nitr0's Insanity, but when JPY came out, it was good enough for me.
Again, I have NO problems now when I sorted everything out, it's merely playing with the looks of the desktop

Give Darky's V8.0 a try
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another galaxy s user who has had problems and think the iphone is the answer, i however sympathise with you if its not working properly
if its that bad i will take it of your hands for £50
regards

No.
Previously had an iphone 4/3gs, HTC desire - And i have to say, a Galaxy S + xda (speedmod, darkys 2.2.1 rom etc) is currently, hands down, the best mobile phone on the planet.

£51
jje

thebazman said:
another galaxy s user who has had problems and think the iphone is the answer, i however sympathise with you if its not working properly
if its that bad i will take it of your hands for £50
regards
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LOL yeah i dont think iphone is the answer just never heard that many problems with them albeit the left hand reception problem. BTW Mazuma Mobile offer 159 GBP for the handset so thanks but no thanks.

I'll give you £51.
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.

Not quick enough, £52!
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.

omersak said:
Previously had an iphone 4/3gs, HTC desire - And i have to say, a Galaxy S + xda (speedmod, darkys 2.2.1 rom etc) is currently, hands down, the best mobile phone on the planet.
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I will try this again. I had Darkys version 6 and encountered bugs but i will persevere....I willl try 8 & hope it solves my problems

JJEgan said:
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jje
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im not going to £52 cause its not worth it

All joking aside mate, get docs jpy, go and bake ye own rom in his kitchen, choose wipe version, back up ye apps and flash via cwm - kiss your problems goodbye.
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.

BaggyBizzle said:
LOL yeah i dont think iphone is the answer just never heard that many problems with them albeit the left hand reception problem. BTW Mazuma Mobile offer 159 GBP for the handset so thanks but no thanks.
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no probs m8 its just most threads moaning about the galaxy s say if they dont find the answer they threaten to go for the iphone
the iphone has more problems than the reception issue im not going to go into them all but the recent one was the alarm fooked up after the new year
regards

thebazman said:
no probs m8 its just most threads moaning about the galaxy s say if they dont find the answer they threaten to go for the iphone
the iphone has more problems than the reception issue im not going to go into them all but the recent one was the alarm fooked up after the new year
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Just got pissed off really cos i recorded my daughter singing and the phone didnt recognise what it had just recorded...that has happened a few times. I will try another custom rom although i have tried quite a few to see if it rectifies anything. Thanks for cheering me up a bit anyway.

[Q] EPIC failure now a newbie needs help rooting

I am now stuck with this POS phone and my wife has one to. I purchased this phone because radio shack said there is a shorter waiting list for this one and this one is better than the EVO. I like the display and the slide out keyboard and the evo side to side comparison is like night and day but now the evo is way better than the epic by far. my phone has the mysterious back syndrome when browsing with the keboard open and I am now sick of it. no flash is now causing my browser to crash when a pop up comes on and fully loads. that is new because I used to be able to x out of them a few weeks ago. And every other epic problem it has I found it. Samsung and sprint stuck it to me. everyone waiting for the 2.2 update should just face the fact there is none. Explaine the nexus s with 2.3? I beleive the problem is hardware and nobody is going to waranty a billion phones. I will never buy anything samsung again.
I need to know the easiest way to root my phone and how and what ROM has working gps,bluetooth, and doesnt crash to often (my stock one crashes once a month). I didnt want to go this way but then I cant use the phone as sprint sold it to me either. I was told the same thing everyone else ,within a couple weeks 2.2 would be availible, usb to hdmi adapter cable, flash support .ECT. the 4g speeds i have tested in 2 states only acheived 2 down 1 up . screw sprint and samsung. sprint has the crappiest coverage of all the carriers and I switched because i wanted the evo instead I got this. I am going to waste more of my time and file a BBB case against them for the lies!

wow.. are you serious... your going to complain about the phone and expect somebody to help you? how do you get anywhere in life?
Why don't you start reading?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
If you don't like the phone just switch to an evo.. nobody is holding a gun to your head.
Oh and you posted in the wrong section. reading your thread again.. you must be joking.

Lol epic is a POS. I guess he never owned a Moment.
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rgregg504 said:
Lol epic is a POS. I guess he never owned a Moment.
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He never owned a evo either. The evo is just as much of pos the epic is. They both got there flaws but I choose my epic over my evo
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I do have an evo but don't like the android keyboard, the display sucks but it does have flash player, hdmi out, and got froyo before the epic came out. I could say that sprint friken did a hard reset on my phone yesterday to "fix" the issues I am having with the phone and forgot to tell me that my calender of appointments would be gone so I am venting a little, but when I siighned up for the phone there were lies told to me ,mainly the 2.2 update that everyone is still waiting for. And it only took 3 tries to send this from my epic because it keeps backing out of the browser with the keyboard open, that wouldn't bother you? Other phones have a keyboard calibration menu. Sprint did telll me they are going to send a new phone today so yahoo.

I did read a lot of the link that you posted for me but get confused by the problem people are having just by plugging their phone into their computers. I figured that problem out the first day after a few hours and found out the epic sucks to much power out of the USB and screws you. Now the thbread is 99+ pages of confusion and I was looking for a shortened version of the story with a good rom link . Wow I made this post without backing out of the browser for once.

wolffer0 said:
Wow I made this post without backing out of the browser for once.
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So basically your clumsy thumbs are hitting the back button or the home button and you are pissed at your phone for that? That is all I am gleaming out of your nonsensical posts. How about you do this:
*Write a list like this of issues you are having with your phone
*Use plain language and drop the emotions
*Explain exactly what happens and what you are doing if anything to cause it

I'm loving the Epic. Not very happy with Sprint over the whole update, but thanks to this site I could care less when their update comes out. Loving the Midnight Rom on the Epic. Would like to check out a few more, but going to do some more reading before I do.

If my thumbs were hitting the back button that would be an easy fix, cut my thumbs off. my phone from day one backs out of even texting by itself even with it 3 feet away from any human at random. This backing out by itself only happens when the keyboard is open and I actually have slide marks on the buttons because after i type something "quick" I have to close, it otherwise at any time the page back button goes haywire. all the way back to the begining. I am not ripping on XDA or any of its members so sorry if I came off that way. I paid for the top of the line sprint phone and use it for work and home and am tired of waiting for stock update to fix these problems. I know XDA and its members are going to be the one that supports this phone because history shows. I got a good deal at new egg on the evo and use that for 1 thing. browsing the internet and when it comes to a flash file, it plays it, my epic boots me out of the browser.

Odin flash to DI18 and then update to DK28...beautiful! I highly suggest the flash so that it is clean before the update. It doesn't like a lot of changes, such as apps and rooting.

Anyone on the DI18 on here able to replicate this? I remember the browser actually being more stable, but that could just be me.... See if the replacement does the same thing, I dont think it will... unless there was a stock browser update on DI18 I dont know about. but if it FCs on keyboard open, and you are on stock, never had flashed anything... try a new one... dont give up, the software is not perfect either way, stock or leaked DK28... and will be until we get source on something... then the Devs will perfect it. Besides, stock is boring... modify!

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If my thumbs were hitting the back button that would be an easy fix, cut my thumbs off.
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Friendly advice: When asking for assistance, please make note of your emotional well-being at the time so you do not come across as a hormone-addled teenage girl auditioning for drama club. Trust me, I have a 17 year old girl; I see this daily and this is exactly the over-reaction I have come to expect from her. i.e., ME: "You have to do your homework before you can get on Facebook.", HER: "MY LIFE IS OVER!!!! I HAVE TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS NOW! I'M DROPPING OUT AND BECOMING A STRIPPER!!!!" ME: "..." HER: "hrmph. FINE!"
If you have a hardware problem, it's covered under manufacturer's warranty and the phone will be replaced. You already stated that you have one on the way so is the drama really necessary?
The GPS on these phones is hinkey even with 2.2. Mine seems to work flawlessly on Quantum but it freezes up after about 20 minutes of walking with cardiotrainer on. Better than 2.1, at least, because it always gets a lock in seconds.
Good thing about Android is that you can actually download other applications that perform the same function for testing. For instance, in regards to your browser problem, there are multiple browsers to download. Personally, I use Dolphin because it was the first one I tried with tabbed browsing and I love it. There are probably better ones out there, but this one suits my needs. Try multiple applications to see if your phone's hardware's the problem or if it's a software issue.

Can you give me your Epic POS (and yours wife too). And buy yourself another an EVO? PM to send you my address...
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looking into why I lost my appointments on my phone I found out that my calender is stuck syncing. so i can wright off my calender ever comming back. It took me 3 months of just waiting for this update to fix the phone and the rest going through sprints tech support and even samsung to get the new phone. they didnt just say here is a new phone to try. I sure am going to root the new one the day I get it.

[Q] questions from a Droid user maybe coming to sprint

I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.

Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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iSaint said:
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
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Thanks for the link!

I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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cpcormier3 said:
I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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jbadboy2007 said:
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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cpcormier3 said:
Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.

I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck

I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.

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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.

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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!

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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........

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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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Hate this POS phone..

I really do hate this phone. No matter what I do I have nothing nut problems. I've tried stock and that sucks. Freezing and restarting all the damn time. I tried rooting. Same bullsh*t but it takes me 4+ hours to get my phone running . I spent from 9pm last night until 3am and then 1-4 this afternoon to get my phone running. I couldn't get Liberty to run right. 3g wouldn't work. Went back to prerooted gb and got my internet working again. Went to take a video and my phone freezes. Had to do a battery pull and lost the video which I can't get back. I don't care what anyone says but F*CK android! I've never had so many headaches and frustration in my life! I seriously want to throw this POS on the ground and go back to a regular dinosaur phone. If I do get another smartphone it will be an iphone. My gf has a iphone 3g and she doesn't have HALF of the problems I have. I seriously want to walk onto the Verizon store and smash this phone across the face of the person that sold it to me. $200 for something that I ha e nothing but issues with plus over $100 to use it. I'd be better off flushing that money down the damn toilet!
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Cool story bro. Do so. We don't care, as you are your own person.
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I had 3 defective iPhones when I used those pieces of garbage. It's called call Verizon and get a new phone.
Alpha Tappa Lambda

Lol I found this rant amusing. Any way obviously you have a defective phone. Get it replaced. Quit complaining. Ha ha.
- Android is the future -

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Lol I found this rant amusing. Any way obviously you have a defective phone. Get it replaced. Quit complaining. Ha ha.
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If you guys only went through what I've been going through, it wouldn't be so funny. I've seriously had enough of dealing with problems all the time. I can't just get a new phone because I've had this phone since November. Unless I do an insurance claim. You've all had freezes and restarts before, but you just put up with it like I did until I finally had enough..

lmao. 500k activations per day android and xda dont need u. i have iphone4 and dx. i hate the iphone. some people the iphone suits them better. usually they cant figure out android
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Woah, woah! Calm down dude. I have a HTC Wildfire with a development ROM on it which isn't even finished! And I use it daily without any problems. Try more Custom ROMs, sometimes the manufacturer rushes the ROM to hit deadlines, but developers (usually) don't.
But if you REALLY hate your Droid X, get an iPhone or a cheap old phone.

Galaxy80 said:
If you guys only went through what I've been going through, it wouldn't be so funny. I've seriously had enough of dealing with problems all the time. I can't just get a new phone because I've had this phone since November. Unless I do an insurance claim. You've all had freezes and restarts before, but you just put up with it like I did until I finally had enough..
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First, have you tried a factory reset? Second, if you've only had the phone since Nov and it's truly defective, take it to VZW and swap it out. Your warranty is a year

My brother had the same issue with his droid x, he just called Verizon I they sent him a replacement phone, he was still under warranty. They actually sent him 3 phones cuz every time they sent him one it was defective. The last phone he got is so far working well. I told my brother when he gets a new phone maybe he should get a htc or samsung.
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I've done more factory resets than I can count. I've been having problems with Liberty it's not funny. I'm trying to wait until CM7 is a little more stable. Right now, I'm running prerooted GB because I couldn't get 3g internet working on Liberty v.08 or v.09. The 3g would be there, but it wouldn't connect. When I flashed the prerooted GB .zip, my 3g started working immediately. Then, I tried to email and Twitter jrummy16 to try to get help with the issue, and he hasn't responded. I understand he's a busy man, but you should really deal with issues with your own apps and roms. I wasn't disrespectful or angry in these messages. In fact, I begged him for help. In Liberty toolbox, when you go to update and it tells you after you download the rom that it's going to restart in recovery and flash it, my phone just restarts normally. I did this 10 times with no luck. I had to use bootstrap to do it, and the damn 3g didn't work. I just want a phone that works. It will work for about a month after I flash something and then the problems start. My gf has an iphone 3gs and she hasn't had hardly any problems at all with her phone. The only problems she's had are with some apps not working. Before I got this phone, I went through 4 wildfires because those kept crashing multiple times a day, and 2 Motorola Milestone XT720s for the same reason..

Hater...
I was just wondering if you still breast feed. That may just explain your temper tantrum. If it took you 4+ hours just to root your DX then stop messing with your phone. Only operate your phone based on what the manual says. Enjoy!

johntsuei said:
I was just wondering if you still breast feed. That may just explain your temper tantrum. If it took you 4+ hours just to root your DX then stop messing with your phone. Only operate your phone based on what the manual says. Enjoy!
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I ran my phone stock until the GB OTA. When I had all kinds of problems, I finally rooted and ran Liberty 2.0.1 Froyo. It didn't take me that long to just root it. It took me hours to get it runnig right because of issues with Liberty. It's not my fault Liberty Toolbox has a bug in it and won't restart into recovery. The first time I tried to upgrade from 2.0.1 to GB, my phone locked up at the M logo. I pulled the battery, restarted into recovery, cleared the memory and cache 5 times each, and it still didn't work, so I had to SBF back to froyo, root, then download the prerooted GB file from another source because the one I had was corrupted, flash that, then when I had to manually flash Liberty v.08 THEN v.09, my 3g wouldn't work. I spent about an hour on the phone with customer service just to make sure there wasn't a 3g issue in my area, then I flashed back to GB prerooted, data wipe/clear cache 5 times each time, and I'm still having issues.. There comes a point where after going through all of that bull****, you finally have had enough. When I ran my phone completely stock, I had freezing/reboot issues. When I root, I have issues. No matter what I do, I have issues. You can all clown and I really don't care. Until you go through what I've been through, you won't understand...

Aww didums. Grow up and get some cheese.
Seriously if it was that bad, why didn't you just exchange it? And don't bother giving crap excuses, you are just a dumb ass.
Tits or GTFO!

My invention: The Idiot Meter.
When walking into a phone store, someone should hand you a tablet with a solid test to test your phone/smartphone knowledge, user accessibility and the ability to know how to perform simple self diagnostics/troubleshoot on your device.
Based on your score, you'll get the device that meets your tested IQ, or in most cases and certainly the OPs case, a swift kick in the ass out of the store with a 20% coupon to the nearest Walmart for a self service prepaid Tracphone.
Boy I tell ya, that sure would cut out 1/3 of idiot threads I read on XDA and potentially increase my life expectancy an extra 10 years from not having to deal with idiot customers! ( yes, I work for a major carrier on the sale front lines lol )
With that said, I am at peace lol.
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It's sad that you're all resorting to name calling. I worked for Cingular for about 3 years as well doing customer service in a call center. I'm a CNC machinist and program them to cut parts. The last thing I am is an idiot. I'm done defending myself against people who just want to call names and act elitist. Thanks for nothing...

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I'm done defending myself against people who just want to call names and act elitist. Thanks for nothing...
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You aren't helping yourself at all. Honestly, you sound as though you're trolling for attention. If you're having 3G connectivity problems (amongst others) where there were none before, then you might have a hardware issue. If you're truly having this many problems with your particular device, exchange the phone. If you aren't willing to do that for whatever reason, you might want to stop posting.
And FWIW, CM7 is solid and is easily the smoothest and most stable ROM that I've had on my DX...including stock. Once you exchange your phone, give it a shot.

Galaxy80 said:
It's sad that you're all resorting to name calling. I worked for Cingular for about 3 years as well doing customer service in a call center. I'm a CNC machinist and program them to cut parts. The last thing I am is an idiot. I'm done defending myself against people who just want to call names and act elitist. Thanks for nothing...
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Maybe you should just stick with g codes then.
But no really your phone might just be the issue. Try a fresh sbf and then load on cm7. CM7 is more stable then most of the roms out there for dx. If you still have issue sbf back to stock and ask to have it replaced. Claim it reboots every so often for no reason. They will exchange it on that issue alone.

openbox9 said:
You aren't helping yourself at all. Honestly, you sound as though you're trolling for attention. If you're having 3G connectivity problems (amongst others) where there were none before, then you might have a hardware issue. If you're truly having this many problems with your particular device, exchange the phone. If you aren't willing to do that for whatever reason, you might want to stop posting.
And FWIW, CM7 is solid and is easily the smoothest and most stable ROM that I've had on my DX...including stock. Once you exchange your phone, give it a shot.
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Honestly, I don't need attention from anyone. I was just pissed off and needed to vent. The connectivity problems were Liberty, because once I flashed back to prerooted GB, I was able to connect again. The 3g symbol was up on the screen, but the upload and download arrows weren't flashing at all. Like I said, I can deal with a lot of bull**** before the frustration becomes too much. I've dealt with issues in the past and didn't say anything about it. My phone will work great for about a month or two and then the issues start. Thank you for letting me know that CM7 is now stable enough to use. I wanted to switch over to it because of all of the great things I've heard about the rom, but saw that at the beginning there were a lot of issues with it, so I decided to wait until they worked out the kinks. I think I will start looking for the file and see about flashing over to try it out.. Thanks again..

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Maybe you should just stick with g codes then.
But no really you phone might just be the issue. Try a fresh sbf and then load on cm7. CM7 is more stable then most of the roms out there for dx. If you still have issue sbf back to stock and ask to have it replace. Claim it reboots every so often for no reason. They will exchange it on that issue alone.
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Thanks. I'm still learning G-code, but I'm proficient in Mazatrol. I ran Mazak lathes for about 4 years, but recently started working at a shop running Haas machines. G-code isn't too hard to leran coming from Mazak. I think I will take your advice and SBF back to Froyo, install the prerooted GB, then flash CM7. I just did all of this night before last, but I guess a fresh sbf after going from Liberty back to GB wouldn't be a bad idea. Some of the problems I've had is with bugs in the files. I've dealt with corrupted files a few times in the past, and it's really frustrating to get that far only to have to sbf and start all over again. Every time I flash or sbf, I always wipe data/cache 4-5 times before booting up normally..

I could exchange the phone, but I would probably end up with a refurbished phone, only to have the same issues again. Can any of you honestly tell me that your phone never freezes or reboots???