Hi, I noticed that more people are trying make the android in NAND version and the SD version start to sink.
I really like some android builds; however, they are NAND version. Is there anyway to convert NAND version into SD card? I tried to move the file named "system.img" into my android folder in the root of SD card, it won't work. Do you have any idea?
I want to do this, because I don't want to loss my windows mobile and want to keep two operating system. Although some people state that the NAND version is smoother and faster, the SD (Even RAM) version is still my best choice.
I really appreciate any help
Thank you very much
If you want to keep your windows i think you must use the SD version,not sure you can convert the NAND version to SD.
They're totally different. If you want SD then you have to use SD builds.
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If you have ever use HTC Kaiser (with android boot from SD card and boot from nand), you will know why I ask this.
Basically, they are same. Just the way how they boot. That's it.
I am pretty sure there is the way to do that. Otherwise, the developer should create another version instead of NAND version.
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the developer should create another version instead of NAND version.
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Not in the slightest bit rude or demanding!
I look forward to your ROM releases.
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The word of "should" is just simply a suggestion. It is not a big deal and it is much polite rather than I say "MUST"
I want to keep windows mobile too! There are some applicazioni like gps gate and gpstuner, tcpmp, coreplayer that i love and i don't want to loose! I like also my Artemis Rom.
For every day use i prefer to use Android (more user friendly than wm), but sometimes when it disconnect or lag or i'm using my bike and i want a gpstrack, use gps gate and google map and listen to music (streaming or not) i use windows mobile that is more stable for the moment! But there are always more nand than sdcard version and it'ld be useful convert them into sd version. When MAGLDR will be very good probaby i'll can boot all i want from where i want but for now convert roms it'ld be useful sr 4 my bad english!
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I haven't bothered installing the MAGLDR yet because I am very comfortable with my setup, I have windows mobile 6.5 with android SD, however would it be possible to dual boot Windows Phone 7 with android or Windows Mobile 6.5 on the Nand? Like for the TMOUS1024 devices? I've read on the chinese site for the DFT that its possible but the instructions are very hard to understand. I can't be the only one wondering this or wanting this? Any ideas guys?
I too would love the ability to dual boot, whether it be dual-nand, or WP7 as an SD build (and Android NAND).
Any chance of this happening, devs?
Right now u can dual boot Android NAND and Android SD.
Windows 7 NAND and Android SD but this is too complex. u need to make two partitions on the SD card.
I too would like to still run wm 6.5 as my main os and boot WM7 and Android from my Sd cards. I would also like to know if this is possible.
Is it possible to boot a SD android version via magldr?
Mine freezes if I choose Boot Android SD :/
Using 1.12
kelvin_swe said:
Right now u can dual boot Android NAND and Android SD.
Windows 7 NAND and Android SD but this is too complex. u need to make two partitions on the SD card.
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I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
i think in the future u should be able to dual boot both from nand if u have the 1024leo because the windows phone 7 rom only uses half of the nand
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I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
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darrengladysz wrote a good tutorial explaining that. here is the link to that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
Someway of dual booting wm 6.5 and wp7 would be awesome.
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Someway of dual booting wm 6.5 and wp7 would be awesome.
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Is WP7 only available on NAND?
Hey...
Yeah, darren wrote an excellent tutorial, it`s pretty simple to dual boot with that (the partitioning only takes loooooooong)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
I will add the link to a tutorial I made afterwards which includes his tutorial and adds the instruction how to boot Core Droid HD 0.4 as an option for an android build to actually dual boot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10689007&postcount=1106
I used this build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801607) for over a month and all I can say is that this is the best Desire HD Sense build I've tried!!! (fast and stable)
So enjoy WP7 Nand and Android SD TOGETHER!!!
Greetz
Dom
masondoctorjt said:
I too would like to still run wm 6.5 as my main os and boot WM7 and Android from my Sd cards. I would also like to know if this is possible.
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thats exactly what i want too, does anyone know if this would be possible?
Dual boot from NAND only
Well, just the question I wanted to ask (OP, not the hijacking posts):
WM 6.5 (or WP7) NAND partition 1, Android partition 2.
At least that's the idea. Two OS's from the faster NAND memory, rather than the slower SD. Only applicable, of course, to the 1024MB version of the HD2. I know this is difficult, but if the chinese are doing it, why can't we ? This would just make this phone more awesome than it already is.
Can anyone answer if this is possible or not, and if not, why?
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Well, just the question I wanted to ask (OP, not the hijacking posts):
WM 6.5 (or WP7) NAND partition 1, Android partition 2.
At least that's the idea. Two OS's from the faster NAND memory, rather than the slower SD. Only applicable, of course, to the 1024MB version of the HD2. I know this is difficult, but if the chinese are doing it, why can't we ? This would just make this phone more awesome than it already is.
Can anyone answer if this is possible or not, and if not, why?
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What chinese are doing it? I've never seen 2 OS's both on nand on a phone anywhere... even those cheap chinese fakes that claim to run both wm and android are just running android off the sd.
I, too, hope one day someone makes this possible... but not sure if it will happen or possible yet.
Also, HD2 NAND is not faster than a good quality SD in most cases. You might get a little better random access speed from nand, but if you find a good sd, even that is probably about equal. Even WP7 is now using SD cards as internal memory, now, but you need a good SD card that matches the NAND speed for it to work right. SD Android builds run at the same speed as NAND builds in most cases, but most SD builds aren't updated like NAND builds are.
But anyways, I agree that I would like to see 2 OS's from NAND on our phones.
WOOZ!E said:
I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
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I have a nice tutorial on how to do this. You have to be careful to choose the right SD Android Builds which you can use. There are only a few which are compatibe with SD Magldr. In my thread there are some of the more popular ones which has been converted to work with more coming shortly.
When Nand first came out there were a tutorial which I came across to convert SD Builds into Nand so in theory reversing the process you might be able to convert Nand back to SD and convert that to work with Magldr. It is something I have been wanting to look into for a few weeks now so I might just make it a priority of mine cause any build to dual boot with WP7 would be pretty awesome.
I think its possible, but its difficult because Windows properity OS may conflict with Androids OS so someone would have to configure it so that they both won't conflict with each other.
Thanks for the participation! That chinese bit was mostly to just stir the pot a bit .
Hi there,
I was wondering if it would be possible in the near future to have WP7 running of an SD card like with Android. Because now I've finally found a near to perfect Android build (SuperRAM by darkstone) because my battery life is even better than on WM! I would like to have the option to still choose this one as my daily driver, but I would really love to have a go with WP7. It would be great to have an Android build, WP7 build and maybe a Meego build (in the future) all on the same SD card, with windows still running on NAND. I'm no real techie so I dunno if it is too much to ask, but I would really like to know my possibilities. Thanks in advance.
Same here. I think il always want wm 6.5 as a default os. Theres no way im flashing wp7 until its run off sd card or ram. I really want an answer on this. Triple boot!
hd2 wm6.5 android and wm7 all in one?
so right now i have the wm6.5 as my main os and have android to use when ever i need or want to show it off. after iam done i shut down android and turn the phone on again and wm6.5 reloads. can i do that with wm7? i want to keep wm6.5 the way i have it now and be able to load android or wm7 when ever i want and the go back to wm6.5. is that possible? THIS WAS A POST I MADE ON ANOTHER THREAD. I HERE WOULD LIKE TO KNOWIF THIS IS POSSIBLE
I want the exact same thing. But after doing a bit of reading it looks unlikely at the moment. Its nand only. I guess we can just pray there will be a sd ram version in the works
it can be done its been posted on here somewhere but its a very long winded process.
search for a dual boot.thinking of doing this myself
just a hypothesis, but since wp7 formats the sd card when it is fllashed, and then acts as if it is internaal storage, even if you could boot wp7 from an sd card, you would need another one to use as internal storage. if it was possible to partition the sd card and use one of the partitions to boot wp7 and the other for storage, you wouldn't have any data space for android (pics, songs etc.) So back to square one...
Exactly what I am looking for
WM6.5 main OS, with Android and/or WP7 running off SD Card.
After 2-3 weeks of using Android on my HD2, I'm totally sold! However, I installed Android on a card that also had lots of WinMo stuff on it. I would now like to start over from scratch on a totally clean 16GB card. I would like some info, however, before I start.
1. I have purchased several apps from the App Store. Should I uninstall them from my current SD card? My concern is that the store will not allow a second install to the new SD card.
2. Should I reformat the new card using the WinMo operating system or the formatting capability of my Vista laptop?
Any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated. BTW, I'm intending to try darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom] first. Depending on how that goes, I may try MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=-[FRG83D][kernel:MDJ S8.0]. I am currently running MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.4_MDJ_S7.6HD.
Thanks.
-Bob-
rebecker said:
After 2-3 weeks of using Android on my HD2, I'm totally sold! However, I installed Android on a card that also had lots of WinMo stuff on it. I would now like to start over from scratch on a totally clean 16GB card. I would like some info, however, before I start.
1. I have purchased several apps from the App Store. Should I uninstall them from my current SD card? My concern is that the store will not allow a second install to the new SD card.
2. Should I reformat the new card using the WinMo operating system or the formatting capability of my Vista laptop?
Any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated. BTW, I'm intending to try darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom] first. Depending on how that goes, I may try MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=-[FRG83D][kernel:MDJ S8.0]. I am currently running MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.4_MDJ_S7.6HD.
Thanks.
-Bob-
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No need to worry about the store, the Windows Mobile Marketplace is tied to your Windows Live account, so when you switch back to Windows Mobile 6.5, or Windows Phone 7, they will already be outdated and useless anyways because WinMO6.5 will feel like crap, and some programs in WinMO6.5 won't work in WP7.
Backup whatever you think you will need on the SD Card.
I recommend refreshing the MicroSD card with SD Card Formatter 3
However, in Options, Format type = FULL (Erase ON), and Format Size Adjustment = ON.
This will wipe everything off from the MicroSD Card.
NAND Androids are pretty good so far, so if you are going that way, read up on MAGLDR and how to install. You will need HSPL 2.08 and RADIO 2.15.50.14
You will also want to read up on Clockwork Recovery.
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No need to worry about the store, the Windows Mobile Marketplace is tied to your Windows Live account, so when you switch back to Windows Mobile 6.5, or Windows Phone 7, they will already be outdated and useless anyways because WinMO6.5 will feel like crap, and some programs in WinMO6.5 won't work in WP7.
Backup whatever you think you will need on the SD Card.
I recommend refreshing the MicroSD card with SD Card Formatter 3
However, in Options, Format type = FULL (Erase ON), and Format Size Adjustment = ON.
This will wipe everything off from the MicroSD Card.
NAND Androids are pretty good so far, so if you are going that way, read up on MAGLDR and how to install. You will need HSPL 2.08 and RADIO 2.15.50.14
You will also want to read up on Clockwork Recovery.
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Sorry, I was unclear. I was talking about the paid apps I installed from the Android Market. Should I uninstall them from my current Android installation before starting over?
Are you recommending AGAINST SD Android versions? That's what I've used so far and am pretty impressed. I also like to have the security of staying away from ROM installs (I have a European HD2, so I'm not sure about the memory issues). Plus, I've read that darkstone's SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 is the fastest HD2 Android version available. Speed would be my only criticism of Android on the HD2 so far.
Thanks for your response.
-Bob-
SD /RAM android
LiFE1688 said:
No need to worry about the store, the Windows Mobile Marketplace is tied to your Windows Live account, so when you switch back to Windows Mobile 6.5, or Windows Phone 7, they will already be outdated and useless anyways because WinMO6.5 will feel like crap, and some programs in WinMO6.5 won't work in WP7.
Backup whatever you think you will need on the SD Card.
I recommend refreshing the MicroSD card with SD Card Formatter 3
However, in Options, Format type = FULL (Erase ON), and Format Size Adjustment = ON.
This will wipe everything off from the MicroSD Card.
NAND Androids are pretty good so far, so if you are going that way, read up on MAGLDR and how to install. You will need HSPL 2.08 and RADIO 2.15.50.14
You will also want to read up on Clockwork Recovery.
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I think your answer is meant for NAND but if I understand correctly then the mentioned new ROM are SD card / RAM builds
My suggestion
1) for Dark stone build is to start from scratch. If you want to restore all your apps etc then the best option is to use Titanium Backup and then you can restore all your apps +/- settings. For Contacts / Calendar Google account sync is the best option
2) if you are going for MDJ 4.6 build then just copy your data.img from the 4.4 build and place it in the downloaded 4.6 build folder and you are all done. all your apps, data, settings etc will be as before...
Before you do anything make a backup of your important files in the SD card and the data.img file from the old 4.4 build ...very imp. Once formatted you can copy the file back into the SD card
For Formatting you are better off using the default format option in windows PC as it allows a better slower format and you can specify the cluster size (32 /64 kb). For me the SD formatter 3 program did not work and kept giving errors.
As for SD card ROM i think they are great but unlikely to develop further due to stagnation.
The RAM build has problems with using HTC SENSE base (as its too big for the RAM space avail) and i found them to be a little unstable with likely hood of data corruption which is easy to addresss if you keep a backup of data.img on your PC.
At the moment NAND is developing fast and with usable and stable HD desire builds available now , but is a little complicated to set up at first. However if it all goes wrong...it is definitely possible to go back to Win Mo and start all over as before. You should try both if possible and then go for the one you like.
My only probs with the SD build was of speed of bootup which was at 3 min, slight lag in the build and occcasional wakeup lag / SoD and i found it difficult..otherwise no complaints.
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For Formatting you are better off using the default format option in windows PC as it allows a better slower format and you can specify the cluster size (32 /64 kb). For me the SD formatter 3 program did not work and kept giving errors.
At the moment NAND is developing fast and with usable and stable HD desire builds available now , but is a little complicated to set up at first. However if it all goes wrong...it is definitely possible to go back to Win Mo and start all over as before. You should try both if possible and then go for the one you like.
My only probs with the SD build was of speed of bootup which was at 3 min, slight lag in the build and occcasional wakeup lag / SoD and i found it difficult..otherwise no complaints.
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Which cluster size do you recommend, 32 or 64?
Which NAND version do you recommend? I'm looking for speed and simplicity. And I have the European (English) HD2. Isn't there an issue with memory?
If all fails with the Nand install can I just run the WinMo ROM I currently have installed from my PC?
Thanks for your response.
-Bob-
Hi All. If anyone is working on a CWM version of the WinMo 6.5?
There may, in the distant future, be a version of Windows Mobile 6.5 that loads from the sd card via MAGLDR. But never from Clockwork Recovery. CWM is only for Android, as it is actually a very lite little Linux distro built only for specific purposes involving the Android OS.
For now, if you want to dual-boot WM and Android, you have to flash a WinMo rom to nand and run an Android build from your sd card.
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Of course, my mistake. The problem is that WinMo is necessary to me only occasionally (navigation). Re-install every time is a bad solution, but a quick backup/restore NAND flash using CWM would be ideal choice.
Sorry for my english.
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Of course, my mistake. The problem is that WinMo is necessary to me only occasionally (navigation). Re-install every time is a bad solution, but a quick backup/restore NAND flash using CWM would be ideal choice.
Sorry for my english.
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Why don't you just use a SD card build to run Android then? That way you still havecWindows Mobile in the NAND memory and Android on SD card. Most SD card builds run very smooth just some have a few more quirks than others and the take longer to boot than NAND Android ROMs.
sebar25 said:
Of course, my mistake. The problem is that WinMo is necessary to me only occasionally (navigation). Re-install every time is a bad solution, but a quick backup/restore NAND flash using CWM would be ideal choice.
Sorry for my english.
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Android has also alot of gps software witch work fine, i use igo8 it does the job flawlessly. granted lock times are a bit higher but you should check out instantanous gps fixation thread witch helps alot
and use android in the nand? i want use wp7 only for make hd videos and use android for all days, let me know please
no.... it's impossible.... WP7 system not operate in that way... WP7 must be flashed to NAND and use SDcard as storage and RAM memory
it's a shame! with android is possibile and with wp7 not
I remember several months ago there was speak of cotulla creating a way to boy wm 6.5 via sd card too but i never heard anything since..maybe just because 6.5 has continued to lose favor
you cant boot WM6.5 by SD card either an doesnt SD android copy its self to RAM? WM2003 might be possible.
The clever chap has got some form or working WM5/6 Emulator working under WP7 if that has direct hardware support, im talking com ports etc, the HD2 would become perfect
course another interesting experiement would be running android via WM6 which is running on WP7, im sure it would run like **** if it was even possible but damn that would be pretty cool
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I remember several months ago there was speak of cotulla creating a way to boy wm 6.5 via sd card too but i never heard anything since..maybe just because 6.5 has continued to lose favor
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Perhaps what you are thinking about was that there was some talk about a 3-in-1 DFT ROM for the US T-Mobile HD2 that would be able to run Windows Phone 7 or Windows Mobile from NAND memory and Android from the Micro SD card. When booting the phone it would be possible to choose 1 of the 3 operating systems. Other versions of the HD2 (such as the European or Asian models of the phone) do not have enough NAND memory for a 3-in-1 ROM.
is possible install wp7 and android in nand together?
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Perhaps what you are thinking about was that there was some talk about a 3-in-1 DFT ROM for the US T-Mobile HD2 that would be able to run Windows Phone 7 or Windows Mobile from NAND memory and Android from the Micro SD card. When booting the phone it would be possible to choose 1 of the 3 operating systems. Other versions of the HD2 (such as the European or Asian models of the phone) do not have enough NAND memory for a 3-in-1 ROM.
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"We (DFT Team) developing several interesting stuffs for LEO, like WM65 running from SD card!"
This is what I was talking about... from Cotulla's twitter..apparently that post was in January of 2011 though
Oberness13 said:
"We (DFT Team) developing several interesting stuffs for LEO, like WM65 running from SD card!"
This is what I was talking about... from Cotulla's twitter..apparently that post was in January of 2011 though
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i did some research on this with MS documents and i dont think its possible without it running like **** or having persistant storage issues. WM2003 didnt need persistant storage and ran mostly from RAM (thats why in the good old days if your battery died it reset!) so that might be possible although you'd probably run in to driver issues.
With Android you can more or less change what the OS does, with WM you cant
Essentially SD is very slow, you could build a form of loader that would install to SD but thats not ideal because you need to run the OS in RAM, RAM drives would do, but thats not persistant and WM didnt have a way of mirroring that data back to the SD. In essence, it was never designed to do it, and it was never designed to be changed, so its unlikely it will run from SD unless those issues could be resolved.
I think the 1GB HD2 was going to get a dual boot at one point, and this new emulator looks promising, thats about as close as we'll get i suspect, but then again, perhaps i miss understood what i saw..
WM7.5
Any step by step instruction to install wm7.5 to my HD2
try see tutorial in my signature
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is possible install wp7 and android in nand together?
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I would guess that it all depends on what MAGDLR 2.01 has in its arsenal. Only time will reveal that. And, for sure it would only be possible on the US T-Mobile version of the phone.
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djsolidsnake86 said:
is possible install wp7 and android in nand together?
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Have a look at this post:
[06 FEB][VIDEO TUT]Dual Boot Windows Phone 7 & Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288