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With the recent developments of Android and WP7 for the HD2, I really can't decide between the two. Will there be an option of dual boot like with WM6.5? I'd love to have this option.
I would definitely love for this to happen, although WP7 is in the lead for me now, booting android once in a while wont be so bad.
i think itz possible in tmobile usa HD2 with itz 1gb ROM ... two partitions using two NAND OS... dual NAND..
I'm very interested in this option. Hopefully this will be available soon.
I hoppe we find a solution for Leo from EU (512Mo).
Like WIN6.5 + Android on SD ?
My favorite way : Android in NAND, WP7 on SD !!
think we should be able to still boot android off sd with magldr... we just need to switch to a different sd card that wasn't used with wp7. I hope its possible. will be trying it soon.
i would love to do this, i have a 124 leo.
F*ck the 512!
Android+WP7 would be sweeeet for 1024!
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
James_Caliber said:
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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im still running an old build of sd, so is it possible to upgrade radio, magldr, win7 nand and keep android on sd?
im not really wanting to give up android just yet, but i do admit i want to see what win7 is like
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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based by the link above (with google translate), its possible to dual boot with wp7 nand and android sd
Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
stephandelaat said:
Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
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SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
Dark Fire said:
So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
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Im unsure on how to do this also, if anybody fancys typing it into something we could follow it would be great!
Im in work today and my phone is fully charged ready for win7/android combo
How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
domenukk said:
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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That's what I would like to be able to do. WP7 is nice to play with at this stage but I still plan to use Android most of the time.
Ali_Shaikh said:
SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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Thanks alot, i wasn't able to find it. Google couldn't help me.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
domenukk said:
How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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Half of the sdcard is formatted in FAT32. The other in WP7 system file.
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Here's that thread translated:
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I have already declared in the title dual boot, or have friends do not understand the altar. After the following modifications, select the boot wph start guide wp7, select the boot ad sd sd boot on Android , Android WP7 and dual-boot, the boot options can, without disturbing each other. Start wp7 will not interfere with sd card, wp7 sd card did not even know exist, the question is wp7 little space available, but at least can be used.
Expect experts to address the first time in wp7 can choose to start the occupation of the sd card space, do not fully occupied enough.
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Thank DFT ! Because SD Android running well, I have not brush Nand Android, waiting for the arrival of WP7.
Today, DFT has released long-awaited HD2 users WP7, I finally started to brush. Brush some of the altar before the access to the Friends of the experience, that really exclusive WP7 SD card, which can later how to run Android.
I have access to the information carefully and found that the SD card as WP7 only system expansion space, the first start of the SD card partition to use. Therefore, I decided to removed the SD card so reserved for Android use.
PC: Windows 7
HD2: SHPL 2.08
SD: Sandisk 8G c4 (from the phone in the show)
The following is the process of Brush:
1. Three-color screen brush Magldr 112 (all normal, NES Set )
2.Magldr start to select the USB Flasher, PC-side DWI (all normal)
3. Phone reboots directly into the WP7, simple to use, after all the normal (free space 98M)
4. Handset off
5. Insert SD card
6. boot holding down the hold button, enter the Magldr menu
7. Set always shows the menu (to decide, because I want to dual-boot often, so set the boot menu)
8. Set the boot path SD card Android
9. Guide the SD Android, the show finished HTC interface (kernel, Init after) boot into Andoird animation between the phone restart
Episode: I stupid out, SD card, there are a lot of information not backed up, hands and no card reader, can not enter the Andoird, the backup can not, WP7, when not installed into the SD card, do not expect him to. Fortunately, there are menu items that Magldr USB storage (my first use of Magldr), select this option, the memory card sorting.Remove the SD card all the Android-generated directory (the directory is generated Android, do not also delete a Android), re-boot, the first screen to enter Andoird die.
10. Online access to information, Magldr guide SD card Android, need to modify inti.rc.
11. Will system.img (I use the DHD Android) copied to the Linux modified.
In the service ril-daemon / system / bin / rild-l / system / lib / libhtc_ril_wrapper.so append --d / dev/smd0 nand parameters, to support
Nand boot.
12. Returns Android phone, after a successful boot.
Nagging: WP7 egg really hurt, WIFI without any settings, I have been using a static IP, can not be set.
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He's dual booting, but none of the SD card space is for WP7. It only has around 100megs left. WP7 automatically RAID0's the whole card with internal memory for space. That's why removing the card screws up WP7 and a hard reset has to be done. I think what would be ideal is if the card could be split into 8gb for WP7 and 8GB for Android, but part of the problem is you can't call HARET.exe or CLRCAD.exe because there is no OS to understand those executables.
I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
santroph said:
I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
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Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
I agree with the suggestion of having dual boot (WP7/Android), in fact I even thought about it yesterday ...
What about having 3 partitions on SD ? 2 for WP7 and 1 for Android ...
domenukk said:
Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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Yeah I know about this, but several of us, myself included have several SD cards.
I can pass for the trouble of changing SD cards from time to time to boot a completly different OS, with several other possibilities.
And I was talking about Android NAND / Android SD combinations as well.
Like I said we could have a Gingerbread experimental in nand, but keep a really stable Froyo in SD as our main build, or the other way around, a lot of us have big enough cards to do that.
Santroph.
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
loyalhudy said:
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
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The problem is that we only have a few SD roms working. And for example DL DesireZ v2.1 works, but DL DesireZ v2.2, which is newer and just lauched, doesn't work, the support is gone
And we don't have as much roms as we had to choose in the past. I am trying to use WP7, to see if it is a viable alternative to my daily use, but I don't want to give up Android. Since we can't have WP7 and AD Nand at the same time, SD is the only alternative, and we have to get whatever is working instead of a lot of good builds like we have in Nand now.
If the devs start to make more sd builds closer to the Nand ones (same kernels and modules, which they can do now, since they will all be using the same hardware startup MAGLDR) we would have a lot of alternatives too.
Like I said, one of the best roms we ever had, tytung NexusHD2 froyo, doesn't work.
Santroph.
P.S: I'm willing to help any dev that need help. I'm a developer too, but a software one, not a cooker
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
domenukk said:
Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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I succeed to flash WP7 rom without SD card inserted. Inserting back the SD card after installation shows that SD storge with full size(not under WP7) and SD android rom (DL DesireZ v2.1) works fine with MAGLDR 1.12. Booting WP7 again will not destroy it, too. This may be a temporary method, while the free space left in WP7 becomes around 130MB which may not satisfy many demands .
was the WM7 functional?
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
I'm going to attempt those steps tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll be following them properly as the translation isn't too good.
But maybe someone else can understand it and translate it properly
jcsy said:
was the WM7 functional?
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fully functional. this method is like the one metioned above from DFT forum
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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in WP7 installation steps it is mentioned that if you remove the sd card the windows will be destroyed? can you please confirm that after trying android and going back to WP7 there are no issues?
I agree... we need more devs developing for sd android again.
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
The best way to know how to do this, would be to have a HD2 that has not a fully working copy of WP7, so we can test it as much as we can.
The biggest problem for me now, is that I don't have how to make a backup of my WP7 installation, or else I would do it and make a tutorial on how to use the dual boot.
Even with the option of using only one card, the SD rom version must be compatible, which in the present time, they are not (most of them).
Santroph.
i've readed all of thread.. but yet i don't understand if it works or not.. especially with ike2903 tutorial to format SD card method...
santroph said:
This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
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Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
jenzy1985 said:
Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
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+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
daysey said:
+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
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+ 9!!!
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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the pc actually read the WP7 parition (or recognized that one existed)?
Hi
I have searched around the forum without any luck on how to remove the windows phone 7 from my uncle's HD2. How can reflash it to the stock rom, which windows 6.5 because activating 7 on the phone is a bit hard and i m not really getting how to do. So I'll just get it back to stock rom and wait for some thing more stable and easier.
Please help me, my uncle's contacts are on this phone, and he cant get it back to normal.
if u didnt backup the phone contacts i guess they are gone because after a flash everything gets lost...u can flash back the stock winmo rom...hold volume down button and start the phone wait till u see the three colored screen...plug in pc till u see usb writing instead of serial...then start flash stock rom from pc...but nothing from ur data will be there anymore...so if u still have the contacts on phone make a backup before u flash
Man. You have two ways.. even to flash nand android or returning back to wm6.5 to return to wm 6.5 u first turn off ur fone, press volume down and power botton to go to the multi color screen .. and then flash ur favorate wm 6.5 rom.. and sorry to tell u that the contacts are alreqdy rlearased if they were on wm 6,5 ..
You can reflash Windows Mobile 6.5 by holding down the volume- button as you power on the phone. Then just flash a stock ROM through the bootloader like normal.
As for his contacts being on the phone, if they were in Windows Phone 7 you can back them up using a Gmail account, and if they were on Windows Mobile 6.5, then I'm sad to say that they have been erased.
htc hd2 does not show sd card
Thanks guys i have revereted back to win 6.5 on my htc hd2 but i have problem with sd card my phone dose not show any card is installed
You have to format the SD card.
I don't know if you can do it in WinMo (probably you can)
Otherwise you'll have to do it on your pc.
akhil3 said:
Thanks guys i have revereted back to win 6.5 on my htc hd2 but i have problem with sd card my phone dose not show any card is installed
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Try formatting your memory card.
akhil3 said:
Thanks guys i have revereted back to win 6.5 on my htc hd2 but i have problem with sd card my phone dose not show any card is installed
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I formatted the SD card back to FAT32 in a digital camera.
You can-
You can format the SD card on Win Mo 6.5
Go to tools/format SD card.
Format it to whatever you need.
depends whether Wm6.5 can recognize this "formatted" partition created by WM7
if unable to, you probably need some tools or software
or use a digital camera or for me, SD card reader etc
jcsy said:
depends whether Wm6.5 can recognize this "formatted" partition created by WM7
if unable to, you probably need some tools or software
or use a digital camera or for me, SD card reader etc
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You can use Android. It works!
Go online and google "free partition manager".
Or look around the various threads, theres links to partition and formatting software in the wp7 threads because of this exact reason...
Cheers...
To get your micro sd card formatted back to its original size just use the tool on *THIS* website and when formatting go into the options and change FORMAT SIZE ADJUSTMENT to 'ON' so it detects the hidden partition.
Mark.
To format SD cards
Normally i just flash clock work mod recovery, and do a format from there, its pretty easy and i can set up my SD card for Ext2 while at it
hi, I assume when we flash stock rom during bootloader "usb" after we installed wp7, things like hspl, magldr , radio will be removed as well.
is there anyway that we can keep wp7 , and leave android sd build in another sd card ? So when we want to build android, we simply just swap the wp7 sd card with the android build sd card. is there anything we need to do to achieve this ?
pool7979 said:
hi, I assume when we flash stock rom during bootloader "usb" after we installed wp7, things like hspl, magldr , radio will be removed as well.
is there anyway that we can keep wp7 , and leave android sd build in another sd card ? So when we want to build android, we simply just swap the wp7 sd card with the android build sd card. is there anything we need to do to achieve this ?
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If you flash a stock WM6.5 rom via bootloader usb mode then the only thing that is lost is Magldr and your previous rom. HardSPL and your Radio can only be overwritten by flashing a stock WM6.5 rom via microsd card method.
When you are using WP7 you CAN NOT hotswap microsd cards or your new card and the previous card you took out will not be recognized by WP7 anymore. I have seen some posts of people saying you can load Android via sd card while using WP7 but I have not done this and cannot verify its validity.
Mark.
More trouble...
I went back to 6.5 ...And my phone reports only 180 Mb of memory instead 512 !!! I tried task29, flashing Stock rom, Custom roms, everything... And it still not going over 200MB of total memory, I can feel the phone lagging!
So, f this SD-card formatting issue, what about the more serious problem of downsizing HD2's memory in half after WP7!!!
Anyone, please HEEEELP!!!
superpeca said:
I went back to 6.5 ...And my phone reports only 180 Mb of memory instead 512 !!! I tried task29, flashing Stock rom, Custom roms, everything... And it still not going over 200MB of total memory, I can feel the phone lagging!
So, f this SD-card formatting issue, what about the more serious problem of downsizing HD2's memory in half after WP7!!!
Anyone, please HEEEELP!!!
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Is that internal memory, storage memory? What is it giving for total, used and free?
Can you take a screenshot and post it?
If your phone only registered a total of 180Mb then its very doubtful that the stock rom would have flashed so im sure the memory is still there.. A screenshot of your memory screen would be very useful.
Mark.
mskip said:
If you flash a stock WM6.5 rom via bootloader usb mode then the only thing that is lost is Magldr and your previous rom. HardSPL and your Radio can only be overwritten by flashing a stock WM6.5 rom via microsd card method.
When you are using WP7 you CAN NOT hotswap microsd cards or your new card and the previous card you took out will not be recognized by WP7 anymore. I have seen some posts of people saying you can load Android via sd card while using WP7 but I have not done this and cannot verify its validity.
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i see. thanks for ur advice. just curious , when we install our wp7, is our wm6.5 still in phone ? cos my energy start up screen is still there . or did i missed one step in front to do a task 29 ?
if i want to go back to my sd android and wm6.5, the step is just flash a wm6.5 (ex: energy rom) rom over right ? or i have to do a task 29 first ?
mskip said:
Is that internal memory, storage memory? What is it giving for total, used and free?
Can you take a screenshot and post it?
If your phone only registered a total of 180Mb then its very doubtful that the stock rom would have flashed so im sure the memory is still there.. A screenshot of your memory screen would be very useful.
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mskip, here is what WM 6.5 reports after I:
- removed the SD card (formatted by WP7, did use the sdformatter tool to revert back to fat32, thank for that tip which you posted on some other thread
- went into bootloader
- did the task29
- flashed the 3.14 stock rom (comes with .51 radio)
DEVICE:
Total storage : 180.98 MB
Used storage: 53.71 MB
Free storage: 127.27
Total program: 336.93 MB
Used program: 136.41 MB
Free program 200.53 MB
I tried some other ROMs, like CleanEx Core V12 which report more memory, but not as nearly as they should (its a 576 mb rom and I flashed a 50.14 radio before the ROM) and it looks like this:
DEVICE:
Total storage: 283.95 MB
Used storage: 16.36 MB ?!??!
Free storage: 267.58 MB
Total program: 474.00 MB
Used program 275.59 MB
Free program 198.24
Hi there
So I'm reading for a while the topics about android on SD Card, but I couldn't fix some issues and I hope you'll get me out:
1) Can I use the original ROM from my HD2 and install Android on a SD Card
2) Is there a possibility to install Android on the SD Card and get a boot loader where I can choose between a WinMo boot and an Android boot or do I have to boot always WinMo 6.5 before booting Android?
3) I read that the speed with the SD Card Mode is slower than the other ways, how can I understand that? Do I have to wait longer during the boot of android or are there also speed problems while working with android?
4) Also on the speed problem: Which SD Card would you recommend for Android on SD? Are there any measurable speed differences between the CD Classes?
best regards
Blacklight-IT said:
Hi there
So I'm reading for a while the topics about android on SD Card, but I couldn't fix some issues and I hope you'll get me out:
1) Can I use the original ROM from my HD2 and install Android on a SD Card
2) Is there a possibility to install Android on the SD Card and get a boot loader where I can choose between a WinMo boot and an Android boot or do I have to boot always WinMo 6.5 before booting Android?
3) I read that the speed with the SD Card Mode is slower than the other ways, how can I understand that? Do I have to wait longer during the boot of android or are there also speed problems while working with android?
4) Also on the speed problem: Which SD Card would you recommend for Android on SD? Are there any measurable speed differences between the CD Classes?
best regards
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Yes you can install android on SD and use WM6.5. Its what most of us did back when you couldn't NAND boot android. There are several bootloaders around yes, however you always have to boot into windows in order to boot SD android. This means android SD boot time is much much longer than NAND, however this is not really that big of a problem. As with the speed problems with the ROM itself, well lets just say i much rather prefer NAND to SD, I used SD for a long time and NAND was something that made me very happy. I didnt really see a problem with SD builds however I simply felt more secure using NAND. Also, with an SD build the speed of the phone is dependent on your SD card class, most SD cards are class 2, mine is class 6 and my SD build worked fine however I have seen people saying its slower with a lower class card. I don't know whether its actually a real issue, like you need a class 4 card to run android properly however people sometimes complain. This however could simply be their ROM's/Phones being slow.
Does this version (FEB 14)[SD]MCCM HD V4.0 [DESIRE HD Sense] Perfect [kernel gauner1986's] work at anyobody with the original ROM ( 3.14.207.1 ) and 2.15.50.14 Radio ?
My actual version is the
[Dec 18][RAM] darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom]
and it works.
The installation of the MCCM is exactly the same but it doesn't work.
When my device reboots there is the HTC logo on a white background and i have waited for an hour but nothing happend.
Samdeath said:
Yes you can install android on SD and use WM6.5. Its what most of us did back when you couldn't NAND boot android. There are several bootloaders around yes, however you always have to boot into windows in order to boot SD android. This means android SD boot time is much much longer than NAND, however this is not really that big of a problem. As with the speed problems with the ROM itself, well lets just say i much rather prefer NAND to SD, I used SD for a long time and NAND was something that made me very happy. I didnt really see a problem with SD builds however I simply felt more secure using NAND. Also, with an SD build the speed of the phone is dependent on your SD card class, most SD cards are class 2, mine is class 6 and my SD build worked fine however I have seen people saying its slower with a lower class card. I don't know whether its actually a real issue, like you need a class 4 card to run android properly however people sometimes complain. This however could simply be their ROM's/Phones being slow.
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Sounds good. So what I don't understand: Booting Android from SD Card - does WinMo Shutdown or does it still run in the background? So is the full capacity of the CPU & RAM available or not?
I think a Class 6 16GB should be enough for that game. I actually like my original ROM and would like to try android just for fun, so I think the NAND Method wouldn’t be that, what I’m looking for.
Do I have to buy a card reader for my SD Card?
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
Blacklight-IT said:
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
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My opinion about Android on a SD card is very positive.
My version is very stable.
Until now I hadn't problems with any bugs.
The browser is very fast, the camera good, the connection to WiFi is perfect and all games work
But it's clear that you have to charge your mobile often
Blacklight-IT said:
Sounds good. So what I don't understand: Booting Android from SD Card - does WinMo Shutdown or does it still run in the background? So is the full capacity of the CPU & RAM available or not?
I think a Class 6 16GB should be enough for that game. I actually like my original ROM and would like to try android just for fun, so I think the NAND Method wouldn’t be that, what I’m looking for.
Do I have to buy a card reader for my SD Card?
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
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SD android also has a high battery drain, I dont know the exact figures but i think in standby sd builds are 5-10mA, where most NAND builds are 2-5. You wouldn't NEED to get a card reader, however it would be an extreme help. SD android is very good, however NAND is better for me because personally, android blows the socks off WM6.5, so I just decided to go all out. SD android runs on top of WM6.5 yes, however WM6.5 is shut down so you do get the full power of ram/cpu etc.
I love SD, partly because I love my build (Black&Blue Remix), and have been rock-solid on it since November. I keep trying other SD Builds, as well as NAND builds, but I'm so hapyp with my set-up I have no desire to change, at least until builds with updated Sense/GingerBread/Honeycomb come out
I've got the Extended Battery pack so maybe that sways my judgement.
But I have no qualms in recommending SD!
King-Chris111 said:
Does this version (FEB 14)[SD]MCCM HD V4.0 [DESIRE HD Sense] Perfect [kernel gauner1986's] work at anyobody with the original ROM ( 3.14.207.1 ) and 2.15.50.14 Radio ?
My actual version is the
[Dec 18][RAM] darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom]
and it works.
The installation of the MCCM is exactly the same but it doesn't work.
When my device reboots there is the HTC logo on a white background and i have waited for an hour but nothing happend.
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Has no one any information ?
Samdeath said:
SD android also has a high battery drain, I dont know the exact figures but i think in standby sd builds are 5-10mA, where most NAND builds are 2-5. You wouldn't NEED to get a card reader, however it would be an extreme help. SD android is very good, however NAND is better for me because personally, android blows the socks off WM6.5, so I just decided to go all out. SD android runs on top of WM6.5 yes, however WM6.5 is shut down so you do get the full power of ram/cpu etc.
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Sounds good. Thanks
To make this part clear: I can only download a Android ROM, put it on my SD Card, insert it in my HD2 and here we go? HSPL is only needed when I'm trying to flash android?
smeddy said:
I love SD, partly because I love my build (Black&Blue Remix), and have been rock-solid on it since November. I keep trying other SD Builds, as well as NAND builds, but I'm so hapyp with my set-up I have no desire to change, at least until builds with updated Sense/GingerBread/Honeycomb come out
I've got the Extended Battery pack so maybe that sways my judgement.
But I have no qualms in recommending SD!
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So the question to you is:
What do you understand under high battery drain? I recharge my phone every night, not depending if it's empty or not (does this have an influence on battery life btw?), so... does the battery last for 2-3 hours of surfing, emails ... on sd android ?
Hi,
I intended to post this question to the [3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD] thread, but not allowed to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32624318)
Can someone help me redirect the question? Thanks!
First thanks for the great ROM, tytung. It looks great and easy to install.
I have a HD2 and wanted to dual boot WP7 and Android. Found this new method NativeSD and decided to try it. But once I installed the ROM (through MAGLDR 1.13 and Recovery 4Ext 2.2.7), everything works fine, except that the camera app (and other apps) says that it cannot find the external SD card to save the pictures. It does not give me options to save on phone. But since both system and data are on external SD, and that partition is treated as /mnt/sdcard0, I am not sure if I am supposed to have an external SD card from the perspective of Android.
Cannot seem to find similar post with this issue, so I must be doing something wrong with partitioning. Could you help??? Thanks so much! I am inches away from having a great Android JellyBean experience on my HD2.
Thanks!!!
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Details:
4 partitions on my 16GB SD card:
1) FAT32, 3GB (this is the boot partition, where I installed Recovery 4Ext and through it, installed the boot files in /NativeSD)
2) Ext4, 8GB (this is the system/data partition, where installation put all Android files)
3) Ext4, 2GB (this is current empty, reserved for another ROM that requires two partitions)
4) Other, 2GB (this is a WP7 partition)
I formatted these using Mini Partition Tool on Windows (not via Recovery 4Ext)
I think you need to run CHKDSK on your FAT32 partition of the card with fix option, once, using a card reader and computer. Once done, put the card back to your phone and boot to your preferred Native SD rom. Then check whether you applications are able to trace the SD card. Should work, since the same worked for me, when I had a similar issue. Hope that helps.
dheerajk27 said:
I think you need to run CHKDSK on your FAT32 partition of the card with fix option, once, using a card reader and computer. Once done, put the card back to your phone and boot to your preferred Native SD rom. Then check whether you applications are able to trace the SD card. Should work, since the same worked for me, when I had a similar issue. Hope that helps.
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Hi dheerajk27, thanks for your quick reply. Was wondering
1) should Android JB think that I have an external SD?
2) where will this external SD be mapped to? The Fat32 partition? The same Ext4 partition as system & data?
3) what would chkdsk do? I just want to make sure that it doesn't mess up the Win 7 stuff as well.
Thanks!
Hi braveliquid, welcome to the forum.
Did you set all your partitions as primary using minitool?
1. yes
2. depends photos/music => fat part, apps=>ext part
3. not sure either
Robbie P said:
Hi braveliquid, welcome to the forum.
Did you set all your partitions as primary using minitool?
1. yes
2. depends photos/music => fat part, apps=>ext part
3. not sure either
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Thanks for your reply. Upon multiple trial and error, I found out that the logical partition is the culprit. When I have 3 primary (FAT32, Ext4, Ext4), Android can recognize the ext SD card. However, when I have 3 primary and 1 logical (the Win Phone 7 partition is made logical by windows), then Android does not recognize the ext SD card anymore.
Any thought on how I can resolve this? Or else I will have to keep 2 SD cards, one for WP7, and one for Android. Doable, but a bit of a hassle.
Thanks!
use minitool and set your wp7 partition as primary too.
Problem solved.
you could use two cards, i am at the moment (I keep spare card in a cellotape pocket on inside of battery cover). You can also dual boot without partitioning see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34009754&postcount=1126 but only really as a backup phone in case wp7 goes wrong and you are away from pc.
Robbie P said:
use minitool and set your wp7 partition as primary too.
Problem solved.
you could use two cards, i am at the moment (I keep spare card in a cellotape pocket on inside of battery cover). You can also dual boot without partitioning see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34009754&postcount=1126 but only really as a backup phone in case wp7 goes wrong and you are away from pc.
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Thanks Robbie. Yes, I have set the WP7 partition as primary and then it works! I am liking the Android experience (have been using iPhone).
Btw, in WP7, it is asking me to update software (I have a very old WP7 installation, migrated to dual boot in early 2011 i think). Can I just upgrade WP7 like normal (i.e. by connecting to Zune)? Or will that destroy MAGLDR? If that won't work, how can I upgrade WP7 to 7.5 or later 7.8? I cannot use Windows Market Place apparently with the old WP7 OS.
Thanks again!
braveliquid said:
Thanks Robbie. Yes, I have set the WP7 partition as primary and then it works! I am liking the Android experience (have been using iPhone).
Btw, in WP7, it is asking me to update software (I have a very old WP7 installation, migrated to dual boot in early 2011 i think). Can I just upgrade WP7 like normal (i.e. by connecting to Zune)? Or will that destroy MAGLDR? If that won't work, how can I upgrade WP7 to 7.5 or later 7.8? I cannot use Windows Market Place apparently with the old WP7 OS.
Thanks again!
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I would just flash one of the new wp7.8 roms, your choice which. Ansar's does not seem to be able to use the new wpbackup app at the moment.
With Hd2o and pdaimatejam you can backup your phone and restore apps sms calls etc. Sooo much better for trying out new roms.
Robbie P said:
I would just flash one of the new wp7.8 roms, your choice which. Ansar's does not seem to be able to use the new wpbackup app at the moment.
With Hd2o and pdaimatejam you can backup your phone and restore apps sms calls etc. Sooo much better for trying out new roms.
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:good: Will be another weekend "project" =)
Thanks!