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I was thinking. About getting the new T-Mobile g2 when it comes out. Is it worth it to switch. I read that the new processor is even better the samsungs. Do you think. Its worth it?
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Unless you want a keyboard, of course not.
It's 99% the same phone, but with a keyboard.
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
I know there are alot of similarities but i keep hearing that the phone has better battery a faster processor, and faster speeds in HSPA+ also witha keyboard. since I mainly use it for texting i find it hard to find a reason especialy since sliders are rare in android unless your on Verizon.(Tmobile) to not get it aside form the fact that in 3-4 months there will be alot of better dual core phones.
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I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
Rellikzephyr
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I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!
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I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!
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more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.
Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?
I'm getting one. Sexy phone. To me, at least.
The phone is not that close to a nexus, the g 2 will run much faster than the nexus with second gen chipset and supports faster speeds, better battery life, keyboard and handles flash better its def a decent upgrade and its sexy
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metalhead8816 said:
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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Agreed. The specs are too close to the N1 to try to ride out for a year(I know I can't go two years with the same phone so I try to get something that won't leave me mad for more than 6 months as new hardware comes out.) 5mp camera? No sale. I'm waiting for a dual core, higher megapixels, HD out, 720p video and a coupon for a half-price on a hooker.
RellikZephyr said:
I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
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Mytouch HD is coming out this year and has dual snapdragon processors.
I want to see some benchmarks and reviews before getting the G2. The N1 is still a great phone.
I will be waiting for something that has specs like the rumored HD7.. dual core 1.2g processors and 4.3-4.5 inch screen and 1g of ram. When i see this I will make the switch
I would wait for reviews before upgrading. At least that's what I'm going to do.
I may hold out until after the myTouch HD comes out. Because I'm wondering how many other dual core will follow for TMobile. I'm thinking TMobile may not see any other nicer higher end phones than the G2 and myT HD until Fall of 2011.
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.
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Preinstalled Apps, such as Swype, run on top of Vanilla Android. There is a very small modification that we make to the framework to make Swype work properly, but this is not nearly the same as complete frameworks like TouchWiz or SenseUI. Those types of frameworks need to be heavily modified to maintain compatibility with each release. In many ways, it is the driver support that holds back rapid rollouts for different phones, Vanilla Android or not. If the kernel is a new version, those drivers need to be recompiled and perhaps rewritten, and those come from the OEMs and their suppliers.
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Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?
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What are you talking about?
G1, MyTouch 3G, MyTouch Slide, Nexus One, and HD2(these are the only ones off the top of my head) all have vanilla ported onto them.
The Nexus one, Mytouch 3g, and g1 have always had vanilla android.
Godammit, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.
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, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.
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if you'll notice, the majority of folks are not crowing about the nexus from a software perspective, or any android based phone for that matter... the big deal is (ok WAS) the hardware.
each time a new android based phone is released, people don't get excited about android version 2.x.x.x, they want the HARDWARE because in most cases if it ships android, it can run any version android. the hardware makes a huge difference.
see ?
Okay the g2 is now overclocked to 1.4mhz. What da hell. How they do that? So jealous. Still happy with n1 but you just can beat that. Currently on att with n1 buy can't wait for bell version of the desire z. Hope that cm6 is available by then. I am jealous.
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Cyanogen posted a post on Twitter himself about this ! It's actually quit sick! HAHA but sorry to be a buzzkill but it is a little off topic for the forum.
Just tryin to keep up this amazing flowing forum we have now
Its easy, the newer snapdragon chips, (the 205s i think?) are a smaller fabrication size so they are easier to cool and do not draw as much electricity thus you can overclock them higher if you want... lets face it, our n1's arnt getting anymore younger
How high you can OC the cpu is only HALF the equation. The other part is stability.
"stability ", to me, means being able to use that speed all day long, running my usual stuff (including games) and not having issues (that are due to OC'ing.
Don't be jealous, our N1 is almost a year old and can still keep up with the latest and greatest... and don't forget, the N1 is Google's darling. We get the goodies first and in its purest form
(Before carriers mangle them)
1.4 Megahertz? Holy **** that's lightning fast!
edit: I know what you meant though, and it's very impressive.
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1.4 Megahertz? Holy **** that's lightning fast!
edit: I know what you meant though, and it's very impressive.
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LMAO
I'm surprised that no one else is giving him **** over this, HAHAHA, I woulda!
Shouldn't that be 1.4 GHz or is it actually 1.4 MHz
Lol my bad. I just realized it.
I was so excited to find out it will be released with bell in Canada.
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Namuna said:
How high you can OC the cpu is only HALF the equation. The other part is stability.
"stability ", to me, means being able to use that speed all day long, running my usual stuff (including games) and not having issues (that are due to OC'ing.
Don't be jealous, our N1 is almost a year old and can still keep up with the latest and greatest... and don't forget, the N1 is Google's darling. We get the goodies first and in its purest form
(Before carriers mangle them)
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i just figured stability was implied when you overclock lol... thats why we dont have anything above 1113mhz on our phones right now...
I believe this is more about bragging rights than anything. I've been underclocking my N1 for awhile now, and it runs perfectly without stutter.
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Okay the g2 is now overclocked to 1.4mhz. What da hell. How they do that? So jealous. Still happy with n1 but you just can beat that. Currently on att with n1 buy can't wait for bell version of the desire z. Hope that cm6 is available by then. I am jealous.
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What a ****? My nexus one runs about 714285.7142857 times faster without overclock than this new g2, with 1.4mhz. My nexus haz 1 ghz and 1.117 with overclock.
Okay I am I am mounted my brains to old ext partition with adb shell and now I will buy this super fast phone with its incredideble speed!
I am anxious to get the new desire z. I haven't fully made up my mind yet but I think I will purchase it if bell gets it sense i'm on att. Time will tell
I recently read an article on the g2 where the hacking community has fully unlocked the g2 similar to what has been done to the g1 and nexus 1.
http://www.androidcentral.com/all-t-...-gets-defeated
My question is, why have the g2, g1 and nexus 1 been fully unlocked and other android phones such as the desire, evo, etc and phones like the samsung vibrant/galaxy s haven't? What makes the g1/2, nexus 1 different? Looking at it from a purely superficial vantage point, I can see that
g1,g2, nexus 1 all have:
Close to stock ROM
All are made by HTC
Qualcomm processors
T mobile network
I doubt any of these similarities have anything to do with it being fully unlocked as HTC makes several android phones such as the evo with qualcomm processors. The vibrant is on the T mobile network which is not fully unlocked. That just leaves being close to Stock ROM. Can anyone give me a quick/brief answer on why these phones have been unlocked so quickly?
I ask this because my next phone will be a native android phone and I want to be able to manipulate my phone similar to what you can do with a nexus 1.
I would guess developer support.
jas0nw0ng said:
I recently read an article on the g2 where the hacking community has fully unlocked the g2 similar to what has been done to the g1 and nexus 1.
http://www.androidcentral.com/all-t-...-gets-defeated
My question is, why have the g2, g1 and nexus 1 been fully unlocked and other android phones such as the desire, evo, etc and phones like the samsung vibrant/galaxy s haven't? What makes the g1/2, nexus 1 different? Looking at it from a purely superficial vantage point, I can see that
g1,g2, nexus 1 all have:
Close to stock ROM
All are made by HTC
Qualcomm processors
T mobile network
I doubt any of these similarities have anything to do with it being fully unlocked as HTC makes several android phones such as the evo with qualcomm processors. The vibrant is on the T mobile network which is not fully unlocked. That just leaves being close to Stock ROM. Can anyone give me a quick/brief answer on why these phones have been unlocked so quickly?
I ask this because my next phone will be a native android phone and I want to be able to manipulate my phone similar to what you can do with a nexus 1.
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first off i think it has to do with it being closely related to the nexus one, N1 being the benchmark developer phone. secondly, its a vanilla android handset, son to the godfather of android the G1, what other phone would you have fully unlocked? lastly, its probably due to the fact that it is by far, the best performing phone on the market ATM, with the semi stable 1.8 OC kernel and completely solid 1.5 oc kernel coupled with CM6.1. id also imagine that cyanogen has a little bit of say in it as he really pushed dev of CM6.1 to the g2 because of the hardware.
What exactly do you mean by fully unlocked? Vibrant is fully unlocked as well, AFAIK. Also, Desire HD, Desire Z & MT4G have the same protection as the G2. I'm sure they'll also be fully unlocked, just a matter of time, now that G2 is "fully unlocked".
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first off i think it has to do with it being closely related to the nexus one, N1 being the benchmark developer phone. secondly, its a vanilla android handset, son to the godfather of android the G1, what other phone would you have fully unlocked? lastly, its probably due to the fact that it is by far, the best performing phone on the market ATM, with the semi stable 1.8 OC kernel and completely solid 1.5 oc kernel coupled with CM6.1. id also imagine that cyanogen has a little bit of say in it as he really pushed dev of CM6.1 to the g2 because of the hardware.
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So how about a phone like the nexus s. That will be a vanilla android phone and is rumored to be one of the most powerful, but it will be immensely different than the nexus one as ther are using different parts because they are made by a different manufacturer
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So how about a phone like the nexus s. That will be a vanilla android phone and is rumored to be one of the most powerful, but it will be immensely different than the nexus one as ther are using different parts because they are made by a different manufacturer
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the nexus s is supposedly gonna be the new dev phone, in which case, im sure that equally as much work will be put into hardware unlocking it as was put into the g1/n1/g2, but by more than likely different people familiar with samsung hardware, IE ppl that work on deving kernels and roms for the galaxy s phones.
theres really no way to tell as the nexus s isnt out yet... there isnt even a solid spec list for it.
So the real reason I ask this is I want to know which phones will be the most customizable and what will be updated quickest. a heuristic would be to stick close to stock phones and developer phones?
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So the real reason I ask this is I want to know which phones will be the most customizable and what will be updated quickest. a heuristic would be to stick close to stock phones and developer phones?
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exactly... updated the quickest are going to be the N1... only to be surpassed by the Nexus S when it finally comes out. Due to cyanogens dedicated team of devs, you can be sure that his releases will incorporate the latest updates mere weeks after they are officially released. RIGHT NOW, i rate phones G2 then N1 due to the physical keyboard. once the nexus s hits the market theres no telling what will happen... that order might change, but it might not (if the NS flops)
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exactly... updated the quickest are going to be the N1... only to be surpassed by the Nexus S when it finally comes out. Due to cyanogens dedicated team of devs, you can be sure that his releases will incorporate the latest updates mere weeks after they are officially released. RIGHT NOW, i rate phones G2 then N1 due to the physical keyboard. once the nexus s hits the market theres no telling what will happen... that order might change, but it might not (if the NS flops)
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Cool. Thanks
jeallen0 said:
exactly... updated the quickest are going to be the N1... only to be surpassed by the Nexus S when it finally comes out. Due to cyanogens dedicated team of devs, you can be sure that his releases will incorporate the latest updates mere weeks after they are officially released. RIGHT NOW, i rate phones G2 then N1 due to the physical keyboard. once the nexus s hits the market theres no telling what will happen... that order might change, but it might not (if the NS flops)
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The Nexus S only has its name to go on. Being a Samsung, makes me think it will not do that well. I will give Samsung credit for making great LCDs and the Hummingbird processor isnt bad either but the housing and Samsung software will not help things. It wont do as well as the HTC Nexus, imo. But rumors of a dual core processor included in this unit might give it an edge it needs. Why Google went with Samsung is beyond my understanding, still...
Another thing... I dont think the G2 was unlocked quickly at all. it took alot of time and effort. the only phones that remain to be unlocked are motorolas. they seem to just have things locked up more tightly than even the dreaded HTC NAND lock...
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The Nexus S only has its name to go on. Being a Samsung, makes me think it will not do that well. I will give Samsung credit for making great LCDs and the Hummingbird processor isnt bad either but the housing and Samsung software will not help things. It wont do as well as the HTC Nexus, imo. But rumors of a dual core processor included in this unit might give it an edge it needs. Why Google went with Samsung is beyond my understanding, still...
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i agree about how much of a completely WRONG decision it was to go with samsung for the next nexus... doesnt matter to me how fast or nice or current the phone is, i WILL NOT be purchasing one, mainly due to the shoddy build quality of the phones. i handle alot of samsung phones on a daily basis and the plastic housing is total garbage... gotta correct you though, the nexus s will be a vanilla gingy handset, so no crappy, bogged down, bloated to **** samsung software.
id rather flush my monies down the toilet than give it to samsung for an android phone(or just keep it in my pocket).
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The Nexus S only has its name to go on. Being a Samsung, makes me think it will not do that well. I will give Samsung credit for making great LCDs and the Hummingbird processor isnt bad either but the housing and Samsung software will not help things. It wont do as well as the HTC Nexus, imo. But rumors of a dual core processor included in this unit might give it an edge it needs. Why Google went with Samsung is beyond my understanding, still...
Another thing... I dont think the G2 was unlocked quickly at all. it took alot of time and effort. the only phones that remain to be unlocked are motorolas. they seem to just have things locked up more tightly than even the dreaded HTC NAND lock...
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When I used the term unlocked, I mean hardware unlocked with the Radio-S OFF. According to the article on android central, this goes beyond just flashing ROMs. I am not aware of any of the non htc android phones that have been unlocked as far these htc ones.
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+1
Superfrag said:
What exactly do you mean by fully unlocked? Vibrant is fully unlocked as well, AFAIK. Also, Desire HD, Desire Z & MT4G have the same protection as the G2. I'm sure they'll also be fully unlocked, just a matter of time, now that G2 is "fully unlocked".
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As far as I'm aware the Vibrant doesn't have radio S-OFF, which the G2/DZ do.
The degree of breaking in is directly related to the degree of effort that THEY put in to LOCKING YOU OUT.
DREAM and GN1 came in a configuration INTENTIONALLY trivial to work with (at least in the case of ADP1), and wasn't all that difficult to clone ADP1 to the locked out units sold by tmobile.
As a result, there wasn't much NEED to work on them in order to break in further. They were good enough, and good enough was... good enough.
With Vision though, the problem is that you couldn't do ANYTHING without significantly interfering with it, including CARRIER UNLOCK, which wouldn't just FAIL, but actually BREAK the thing.
And so THESE two things were focused on.... and once one was defeated (write protect disabled)... well I'm not going to say that it was EASY from there, but one thing naturally led to the next and all the pieces fell into place.... here you go, OWNED!
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from a purely superficial vantage point, I can see that
g1,g2, nexus 1 all have:
Close to stock ROM
All are made by HTC
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Dream and GN1 are far more similar to each other than either is to Vision. The big difference is the use of NAND vs eMMC for storage. eMMC is a much more sophisticated storage system that has kind of has a mind of its own... so not only do you have to hack the phone, you have to hack the storage as well.
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You mean GSM? Because NONE of these phones have any particular ties to any particular service provider.. In fact, GN1 was NEVER EVEN SOLD BY TMOBILE AT ALL!!!
Not that this is in ANY way even REMOTELY relevant.
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What exactly do you mean by fully unlocked? Vibrant is fully unlocked as well, AFAIK.
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Nope.
Also, Desire HD, Desire Z & MT4G have the same protection as the G2. I'm sure they'll also be fully unlocked, just a matter of time, now that G2 is "fully unlocked".
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Virtually identical, and no, it is NOT a matter of time, they ARE, and WERE the moment the VISION was.
I doubt it has anything to do with tmobile as dhkr123 said, they probably just build the most recent batch of phones (desire hd/z g2 etc) with the same security measures so once one was freed, they all were! I don't think they were made this easy to root on purpose, just happened that way! I'm sure htc doesn't mind so much, means more sales in the long run, and perhaps a few extra bricked phones they have to replace... A bit off topic, but MS's kinect got "hacked" recently and they sales jumped when people saw 3d videos etc being made, and then MS had a press release basically saying they were hoping people would plug it into their pc's and develop, it's all on engadget somewhere
The nexus 1 & nexus s are unlocked. You just have to use adb with unlock command. Thats why the n1 was unlocked so fast. I dont get why you guys bash Samsung phones so much. They have the best hardware and there build quality is 100x better then htc. Thats why Google went with Samsung. I have never read a thread in any of the galaxy s forums about poor build quality. HTC cant even get a screen to stick in place let alone build a phone thats competitive. They finally have a competitive cpu (if its overclocked to 1.9 ghz) and everyone else is releasing duel core cpus. You wont see a HTC with a duel core snapdragon till late 2011 and it still wont benchmark higher then Samsung orion duel core cpu with quad core gpu that will be released q4 2010 or q1 2011. The only bad thing about Samsung is there software but the nexus s will be stock android so its a win win.
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The nexus 1 & nexus s are unlocked. You just have to use adb with unlock command. Thats why the n1 was unlocked so fast. I dont get why you guys bash Samsung phones so much. They have the best hardware and there build quality is 100x better then htc. Thats why Google went with Samsung. I have never read a thread in any of the galaxy s forums about poor build quality. HTC cant even get a screen to stick in place let alone build a phone thats competitive. They finally have a competitive cpu (if its overclocked to 1.9 ghz) and everyone else is releasing duel core cpus. You wont see a HTC with a duel core snapdragon till late 2011 and it still wont benchmark higher then Samsung orion duel core cpu with quad core gpu that will be released q4 2010 or q1 2011. The only bad thing about Samsung is there software but the nexus s will be stock android so its a win win.
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neither the g1, nexus 1, nor will the nexus s be radio s-off.
not even the android development phones have unlocked radios. radio s-off != hboot s-off != subsidy unlock.
fyi, the 800mhz snapdragon outperforms the 1ghz hummingbird in samsungs in all but direct gpu performance, and superlcd vastly outperforms amoled in terms of color fidelity and pixel density.
Just wanted to say thanks again to all the Devs and Samsung for such a great phone. In fact I have owned this for half a year, which may be the longest I owned a phone in years. 2.2, haha who gives a damn. Ive been running it since the good people here made it available. I love TMO and my month to month plan rocks too. Since it released 6 months ago, I would expect a successor to come out by now anyway.
Thanks again Rom developers.
+1 I agree the phone is a great phone regardless of the lameass treatment we get from Samsung........
1+ love my vibrant. Even convinced a co worker to return his hd7 for a vibrant. Installed nero 5 voodoo on his and loves it way more than the hd7
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thank you finally a worth while thread i dont understand why there are so many threads on this forum that try to bring the phone down because of the 2.2 update that none of them probably need. honestly most of the people that post on those threads already have rooted their vibrants and are running a 2.2 rom. the only ones that have a right to complain are the developers that are waiting on the source code to make their roms better. this is a great phone and currently still one of the best if not the best available in the us market.
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thank you finally a worth while thread i dont understand why there are so many threads on this forum that try to bring the phone down because of the 2.2 update that none of them probably need. honestly most of the people that post on those threads already have rooted their vibrants and are running a 2.2 rom. the only ones that have a right to complain are the developers that are waiting on the source code to make their roms better. this is a great phone and currently still one of the best if not the best available in the us market.
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Agree, all these 2.2 OTA threads are more suitable for HF not XDA
rock on!!! glad to see a thread promoting this wonderful phone. I think it rocks which is why i bought it.
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Just wanted to say thanks again to all the Devs and Samsung for such a great phone. In fact I have owned this for half a year, which may be the longest I owned a phone in years. 2.2, haha who gives a damn. Ive been running it since the good people here made it available. I love TMO and my month to month plan rocks too. Since it released 6 months ago, I would expect a successor to come out by now anyway.
Thanks again Rom developers.
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+1 love my vibrant. Appreciate all the hard work the devdevelopers put into it. And appreciate the help of the community.
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I just bought this phone 2 weeks ago to find out skype doesn't work without froyo. I had no intentions of rooting this and playing around with roms but im back at xda to get fixes.
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+1 gotta say I love my vibrant especially with Neto 5. Nothingmore I could possibly need/want.
I wish the update for my MyTouch Fender would finally get pushed out to me. I have missed my Vibrant so much this past week. It is such a great phone, and can't be matched by anything T-Mobile or Google have out now or in the near future.
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I wish the update for my MyTouch Fender would finally get pushed out to me. I have missed my Vibrant so much this past week. It is such a great phone, and can't be matched by anything T-Mobile or Google have out now or in the near future.
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What about that new dual core phone we've been hearing about?
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What about that new dual core phone we've been hearing about?
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It's inevitable, most new phones in 2011 will be dual core. No worries about battery either, tegra 2 is pretty amazing. had some hands on at CES. For now, Im loving on my Vibrant.
I really like the vibrant as well I just wish TouchWiz with Android 2.3 would come instead of 2.2 so I'm still sad that Samsung has been such a *****.
I just got my Vibrant a couple of weeks ago as well (while it was free), moving from the MyTouch Slide. Nero v5 is one of the most stable roms I've used. The phone is beautiful, it flies, and I simply don't need the FFC and curved screen that Nexus S has. And god only knows when Maine is going to get 4G.
It definitely sucks that phones have to wait so long for an update, but it's not just Samsung. HTC still hasn't updated the Slide. The latest update is that a) Wifi calling isn't working reliably and b) they can't get it to install because of limited space on the system partition.
I figured if I was going to be rooted and providing myself with updates, I might as well have a nicer phone than the Slide.
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What about that new dual core phone we've been hearing about?
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Dual core is nice, but their is more to a device then the processor. Having the 16GB on board along with a memory card slot is what I love about the Vibrant. Until T-Mobile has a device with both, I will stick with my Vibrant.
Not sure what all the buzz is on the dual core. Android is not, and probably will not be optimized for dual core devices until next year, due to the nexus s, google's flagship, using the same single core hummingbird. Besides, compared to a vibrant on browsing and opening apps, you may have a 1-3 second difference, not worth the $200 upgrade.
Besides, all apps will mainly be optimized for single core devices, which are still the majority. And the power sgx 540 in the hummingbirds fares well against the tegra 2 gpu.
I've been looking to get a new phone for a while now, but I've never wanted to pay a $400 price tag for an unlocked phone when my contract isn't up yet.
I've been seeing g2's for just above $200 though and I'm really about to get one.
but I'm a bit concerned, is there something wrong with the g2?
from what I hear, even though it's 800 mhz, it's super smooth and can be clocked up to 1.5.
I really don't want a phone that's going to be dated, that's my main concern.
Is the phone dying out? or is this $200 deal just good luck?
Is development on the phone good? (I'm pretty sure a perm-root was found a while ago if I'm not mistaken)
also: I'm gonna need it unlocked, but when I try to find a place where I can get an unlock code all that comes up is for the much older htc G2/Hero
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Also, how's the performance for things like gaming?
No there's nothing wrong with the G2. Great phone, but there are bigger and better things just around the corner. Also I'd look around more as they can be had for less than $200. Just a heads up, the G2 is being discontinued as it's officially at it's "end-of-life" phase. That aside, the 800 MhZ processor is smooth as butter and gaming is good with the Adreno 205 GPU. Not gonna stack up against the likes of the Sensation or G2X though. (Although the G2 is overall much more reliable than the latter) Dev support is great so in the end, if you can find a cheap one off-contract to hold you over until an upgrade is due, I'd say go for it.
As a owner from October 3rd, I can say that I'm quite happy with it... Considering it was a transition from a regular cellphone to a Android-powered cellphone. As of now, only the G2X and the Sensation have my attention, but I'm currently under contract and I'm still happy with the phone.. Heck, only as of recently did I root my phone simply because I wanted to disable some of the pre-loaded apps that I don't use. I'm pretty sure you will find plenty of great ROMs and kernals, so development is not an issue here IMO. All in all, I'm a happy camper with my G2 ^.^
yeah not to mention you wont have to pay a cent to unlock it if you root it via the gfree method you get perm root and sim unlocked ; )
we also got some of the best devs around, im already running an htc sensation rom on my device!
Just want to say that the G2's 800 MHz CPU has a newer Qualcomm chipset than the standard 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragons and performs MUCH better, even 200 MHz less clock frequency. CPU architecture and design is just as important, if not more than, as clock speed.
Thanks for the info. I don't see why they would discontinue it though, being one of the only phones with a keyboard.
killswitch11 said:
Also I'd look around more as they can be had for less than $200.
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Can you give me any advice on where to look?
nonione said:
yeah not to mention you wont have to pay a cent to unlock it if you root it via the gfree method you get perm root and sim unlocked
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I didn't know that was possible, thanks
Absolutely
I bought my g2 the exact day it came out and now i'm running a buttery smooth htc sense 3.0 rom. This phone isn't dying anytime soon and it has a hardware keyboard so i definitely recommend it !
I want to say G2 just the phone u need, great phone, great battery and very smooth, 800mhz not the problem it's better for battery. You can OC to 1,5-1,9Ghz, OMG O.O
I have the G2x and while the screen has more real estate; I am doubtful of its quality compared to the G2. The G2 feels hefty in the hand like you have a real phone and it always amazes me at a physical level around its quality. Combine this with what others have said regarding rooting, sim unlocking, and the new ROMs coming out and I think the phone is a great value.
I have two G2s actually. One runs CM7 nightly and the other now is running a recent MIUI build. I love these phones. Came from Nexus One and I love them as well.
I'm looking at the sensation 4g but I'm definitely not looking to buy right now. I want to see if HTC does OTA and open the bootloader and how the development starts occurring on it.
The G2 with its real keyboard is the best value I have found.
nonione said:
yeah not to mention you wont have to pay a cent to unlock it if you root it via the gfree method you get perm root and sim unlocked ; )
we also got some of the best devs around, im already running an htc sensation rom on my device!
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Actually I unlock it for free, I called tmo and they gave me the unlock code, currently in dominican republic using the orange network sim card.
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ
Thank you all for the advice. I just ordered it earlier today (Yay, I can't wait).
but I'm really gonna need to learn more about the gfree method of rooting. I'm not on T-mobile, so there is absolutely no chance That I'll be able to get them to unlock it for me.
I haven't read this thread yet:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055581 but if I follow it then I'll be unlocked as well as rooted, correct?
It's pretty much the same thing, but this is the most updated version of the rooting guide, and it is regularly maintained
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Normally I'd say all G2s don't need to be downgraded; you can start rooting right away (The Desire-Z devices need downgrading, which is the non-US version that comes with Sense UI). However some people who have recently received a replacement G2 had the Gingerbread update already on it, and that won't be able to be rooted with the same method..
If you want fast, easy, and safe.. I'd use this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
That is, unless your new G2 ships with Gingerbread 2.3 onboard already. (I've read some new G2s are shipping with the official update out of the box) Otherwise, the above method works great.
swee08315 said:
Thank you all for the advice. I just ordered it earlier today (Yay, I can't wait).
but I'm really gonna need to learn more about the gfree method of rooting. I'm not on T-mobile, so there is absolutely no chance That I'll be able to get them to unlock it for me.
I haven't read this thread yet:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055581 but if I follow it then I'll be unlocked as well as rooted, correct?
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congrats mate.. and since now there's already ROM based on Sensation.. than u'll have G2/DZ with the taste of Sensation ... the overcloked G2 even can surpass (standard) Sensation (mine was around 2390..).. one which is lacked in G2 is only the amount of RAM which is 512... (and the screen size if that's matter for u)...
i rooted mine through this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD (well... mine was DZ.. ).. have some FC after the root.. and then runs fine after a wipe through Clockworkmod... and now runs perfectly fine with custom rom ..
And any of these guide will unlock the Sim for me?
I'm going to need that. I've rooted many androids (mostly for other people) and I'm comfortable with adb, but never have I heard of being able to unlock it myself.
In the future, please search and view the stickies before creating a new thread. there is a stickied thread for G2/DZ Reviews where this question should have gone. Thank You.
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In the future, please search and view the stickies before creating a new thread. there is a stickied thread for G2/DZ Reviews where this question should have gone. Thank You.
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sorry, my bad
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And any of these guide will unlock the Sim for me?
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Most G2/Desire-Z rooting guides also do SIM unlock during the procedure, as well as debrand the device
Thanks you all, That will be it for now.
phone will be here by thursday