Root on demand - Desire HD General

First of all, I am not new with custom roms but I am new to Android which is totally different from what I used to know with WM.
Now, I wanted to avoid rooting my phone and modifying in any way that would alter it's factory functionality. The main reason is the unexpected behaviour with new updates and apps. However, I noticed that I cannot buy applications that I need and that would make my phone useless so, I realised that at least rooting is a must. Since I haven't done it before, I have a few concerns so please help me in the following concerns:
1) Can I just root my phone without altering anything else (without using custom rom) so that I can use some apps which need root access and use market to purchase apps?
2) After installing tha latest update, is it still possible to root?
3) Can I root on demand? i.e enable it when I need to use market and then disable it in order to return to normal funcionality?
4) Are there any real consequenses of rooting? major problems?
5) Is it permanent? can I totally remove it if I need to return my phone for waranty claim?
6) I guess I won't lose any data, right?
After the latest update, is it still

andreasy said:
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1) Can I just root my phone without altering anything else (without using custom rom) so that I can use some apps which need root access and use market to purchase apps?
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YES
2) After installing tha latest update, is it still possible to root?
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I think the 1.72 is not rootable yet, but ofcourse, if you install it via a custom ROM, i think you will be fine
3) Can I root on demand? i.e enable it when I need to use market and then disable it in order to return to normal funcionality?
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I think the closest is a temproot.. you lose it everytime you re-boot
4) Are there any real consequenses of rooting? major problems?
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Its like having your WinMo HSLPed... warranty, etc...
5) Is it permanent? can I totally remove it if I need to return my phone for waranty claim?
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Yes you can, flash the Stock and S-ON
6) I guess I won't lose any data, right?
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AFAIK, you dont lose any data..
Hope this helps

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[Q] root/bloatware question

Hello everyone. I was wondering if this would work:
Root, remove all bloatware, and then unroot and get OTA update. Will my phone, after OTA, remain without Bloatware?
The short answer is - no.
The longer answer is - you won't get the update unless you flash it manually as PD15IMG (which wipes and reformats everything anyway).
Jack_R1 said:
The short answer is - no.
The longer answer is - you won't get the update unless you flash it manually as PD15IMG (which wipes and reformats everything anyway).
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what I mean is to root the phone, remove the apps like Asphalt, friend streem, etc. Then unroot it and wait till I get stock OTA
I think friend stream is removable but I may be wrong
No. Once you get the official OTA you will be subject to all the T-mobile bloatware. If you really want the stock gingerbread ROM, there is a rooted version with and without the new radio in the development forums.
You can get rid of the bloatware or you can have the gb update, but you cant do both until an exploit to root the update comes out.
AntonJart said:
what I mean is to root the phone, remove the apps like Asphalt, friend streem, etc. Then unroot it and wait till I get stock OTA
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I understood what you've meant, and the answer doesn't change - no, you can't do it, the OTA will bring EVERYTHING on the system back to stock or won't work at all.
Jack_R1 said:
I understood what you've meant, and the answer doesn't change - no, you can't do it, the OTA will bring EVERYTHING on the system back to stock or won't work at all.
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thats bad

[Q] root questions

Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
EmilEmil.st said:
Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
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If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
Thanks for the quick reply!
//Emil
prowsterz said:
If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
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[Question]How do I remove system app?

So I was fortunate enough to have ArnovaG82 to look into the camera app of Essential and he said they enabled compression of 90%, so he changed it to 100%. You can find the modded apk here https://drive.google.com/open?id=1aQ50MgaKjHwVwNDe_1LA2Q46sQl0QtqE . However, it won't let me install due to having same file name or what not. So I used a system uninstall app from the Play Store with root enabled, but it would not remove the stock camera app. No matter what I do, it does a self restart and the app is there again.
If someone figured out how to completely uninstall the stock app and install the modded apk, please share!
Do you have TWRP? Might remove it from there and then install the modded apk. Otherwise, can you remove it and then immediately install the replacement? Titanium Backup to remove it and then install the modded and then TB it to a system app?
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Do you have TWRP? Might remove it from there and then install the modded apk. Otherwise, can you remove it and then immediately install the replacement? Titanium Backup to remove it and then install the modded and then TB it to a system app?
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Would you mind testing it? You sound like you know what you are doing vs me.
xterminater07 said:
Would you mind testing it? You sound like you know what you are doing vs me.
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I won't be able to immediately, I just got this new again today, have to use it for a bit before I'll be able to unlock the bootloader and root.
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Do you have TWRP? Might remove it from there and then install the modded apk. Otherwise, can you remove it and then immediately install the replacement? Titanium Backup to remove it and then install the modded and then TB it to a system app?
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Seamonkey79 said:
I won't be able to immediately, I just got this new again today, have to use it for a bit before I'll be able to unlock the bootloader and root.
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Why do you have to use it for a bit before rooting and unlocking bootloader? Just curious
xterminater07 said:
Why do you have to use it for a bit before rooting and unlocking bootloader? Just curious
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Because I make it a rule never to do something that can ruin warranty claims until I know something works properly first
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Because I make it a rule never to do something that can ruin warranty claims until I know something works properly first
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Essential already stated rooting and unlocking bootloader will not void warranty.
xterminater07 said:
Essential already stated rooting and unlocking bootloader will not void warranty.
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Possibly, then there's this thread - https://forum.xda-developers.com/es...sential-phone-tech-support-using-xda-t3699646
Suffice it to say, I'm going to probably use my phone the way I see fit, regardless of what a manufacturer says or another user requests It's seldom worth the risk.
The phone is so good stock Root hardly seems worth it. I read all the threads about roms and rooting and will literally gain me nothing in the end but give me unwanted headaches.
I am rooting it for the sole purpose of replacing the stock camera app with the one that is modded by Arnova

Root checking bypass / dual boot, newbie question

Hi,
I'm following this site for years now, whenever I need to root my phones or just have some technical question related to them, mostly I find the correct answer right here. So, I decided to ask something for the first time, because couldn't find an answer good enough about this matter.
I have a Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F) right now and I decided to root it for the first time. Didn't go so well, I got the "Verification Failed, Unable to restart your device..." error. Doesn't matter, I lost everything I had on my phone, but now it's working again. But after I wasted 2 hours and a lot of data for nothing, I realized, that I can't use a rooted phone anyway, because I need multiple apps (bank applications for ex.) which won't open on a rooted phone.
I have three questions:
1) Is there ANY method to successfully hide my phone being rooted, which works a 100% for apps like bank apps?
2) Can dual boot solve my problem, having a primary custom, rooted rom, but having a secondary clean rom for only these few apps? Or those apps check for something deeper, than that?
3) If 1) and 2) won't work, is there any other method to have a rooted phone, but use apps which doesn't work on a rooted device?
TL;DR: Wanna use bank apps on rooted phones, but they won't start because of the root. Any method to make it work?
Thanks in advance!
use magisk and hide root for specific apps
yaro666 said:
use magisk and hide root for specific apps
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What is Magisk? A custom ROM? A custom recovery? A root thing like SuperSU?
A little more explain would be good, like the title says, I'm a newbie.
unleashed7 said:
What is Magisk? A custom ROM? A custom recovery? A root thing like SuperSU?
A little more explain would be good, like the title says, I'm a newbie.
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Google is your friend...
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Google is your friend...
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What to do about OTA update on rooted phone?

My phone keeps bugging me to install OTA update for krack vulnerability. I tried and it sent my phone to boot loop and now I have it restored. My phone has xposed installed. What is the best course of action? I would like to update but if that's not possible can I at least stop having the message show up each time I unlock my phone?
You could try to disable/freeze the Motorola-Updateservices (/system/priv-app/3c_ota/3c_ota.apk) or flash a new full (not OTA) firmware for your device without boot.img, recovery.img and without wiping data.
Beware: After flashing a full firmware, all modifications to the system partition are lost and have to be redone.
I always disable all 3c moto services and never faced problems because of it.
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You could try to disable/freeze the Motorola-Updateservices (/system/priv-app/3c_ota/3c_ota.apk) or flash a new full (not OTA) firmware for your device without boot.img, recovery.img and without wiping data.
Beware: After flashing a full firmware, all modifications to the system partition are lost and have to be redone.
I always disable all 3c moto services and never faced problems because of it.
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Is that even safe not to apply the patch? I find it hard to believe just because you root your device you can't update it.
twoplustwo said:
Is that even safe not to apply the patch? I find it hard to believe just because you root your device you can't update it.
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Is it a good idea to avoid security updates? No, it isn't. Is it clever to avoid updated drivers? No, it isn't (at least in most cases).
You should have informed yourself about the backdraws of rooting your phone before you did it. You need to be completely on stock firmware without any changes
to the system files to be able to use an OTA for updating your phone. This is needed to be safe the OTA update works the way it should.
The best way for updating a rooted phone is to install the full updated rom, which is easy to get for our device.
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The best way for updating a rooted phone is to install the full updated rom, which is easy to get for our device.
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How can this be done? I don't know what to search for in these threads?
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How can this be done? I don't know what to search for in these threads?
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Check this for example: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
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Check this for example: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
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Some of my apps (like TI backup) need root. Is there a root for this version yet? I've tried searching but I find these forums very difficult to navigate.
twoplustwo said:
Some of my apps (like TI backup) need root. Is there a root for this version yet? I've tried searching but I find these forums very difficult to navigate.
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Same procedure as on other stock rom versions): you need ElementalX kernel to be flashed and afterwards your desired root method(magisk is recommended).
Guides like this are valid https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918

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