So my wife just upgraded her phone and i was left with a stock MyTouch 3g with 3.5mm headphone jack and I thought I would expand my Android knowledge base and see what I could do with it. I am not knew to Android and I have a Samsung Vibrant that I can pretty much do whatever I want with. The Galaxy line is extremely easy compared to this device.
So I did my fair share or reading and research and was able to root the phone with Universal Androot and installed busybox via titanium backup. I downloaded ROM manager from the market and flashed clockwork recovery. I used recovery to installl CM 5.0.8 DS and once it reboots in wont load past the mytouch splash.
This is what I started with:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009, 22:33:27
And this is what it reads now:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Jun 2 2009, 17:27:03
I read that Binary said that it is really a 32B not an A so to stick with the B ROMs. I can also access fastboot and recovery.
The easy part with the Vibrant is that if I screw up the phone you can just simply Odin back to stock and start over, but the mytouch is a little more complex than that. So basically I want to get back to stock and start over. There are so many threads and links that say user friendly but I didn't find it quite user friendly. I must just be spoiled with the Galaxy.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. It's not a rush or it's not my daily driver. Just a toy phone now to learn on.
Thanks!
mod edit because of inaccurate information.
So you are saying if I just follow the normal root guide for the fender 1.2 that I should be good?
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CBATESY said:
usually any of the 3.5mm jack phones are 32a devices. 32b is the original mt3g. ones with the jack in the top is a mt3g 1.2 or 32a. If you have recovery working you can use that to restore back to factory or installed sapping.img
here something to help you out .
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Magic
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NO! Damn it! Listen to me everybody! The 1.2 device (Fender, etc) are a 32A/32B hybrid. The ONLY thing that makes this phone ANY different than the regular 23B MyTouch devices is the additional ram. That's it! You CANNOT fit a 32A ROM on the device because it lacks the internal storage. Even if you COULD the kernel for that rom would require a 32A radio. You cannot use a 32A radio because the 1.33.0013 32A s-ON spl requires the 32B radio. And it requires a 32B radio else it will brick. The 1.33.0013 is the S-ON stock SPL that the phone requires to use the memory map. If you try the Engineering SPL (1.33.2010 32B S-ON) the phone might boot, but you will not have touch screen or the use of the headphone jack because of the different drivers and memory map. When you flash the Engineering SPL it will read 32B because that is what is needed to flash the custom recovery and roms. However your device will not work properly because it's a 32A/32B hybrid. You need the 32A stock firmware (1.33.0013 S-ON) for the phone to operate. You also need the appropriate 32B radio and rom as well.
I have the phone and I've had it since it's release. I started off by making custom roms for it and ports before roms were using VoxLuna's driver patch. Trust me when I say that I know a little about this damn phone!
You know what... to hell with it. Do whatever you want. Don't be sending me private messages begging for help when you brick your device because you think it's a 32A.
custom ported rom #1
custom ported rom #2
custom ported rom #3
custom rom #1
They all require 1.33.0013 S-ON with 32B radio.
offdutyninja808 said:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP31000)
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The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
Binary100100 said:
NO! Damn it! Listen to me everybody! The 1.2 device (Fender, etc) are a 32A/32B hybrid. The ONLY thing that makes this phone ANY different than the regular 23B MyTouch devices is the additional ram. That's it! You CANNOT fit a 32A ROM on the device because it lacks the internal storage. Even if you COULD the kernel for that rom would require a 32A radio. You cannot use a 32A radio because the 1.33.0013 32A s-ON spl requires the 32B radio. And it requires a 32B radio else it will brick. The 1.33.0013 is the S-ON stock SPL that the phone requires to use the memory map. If you try the Engineering SPL (1.33.2010 32B S-ON) the phone might boot, but you will not have touch screen or the use of the headphone jack because of the different drivers and memory map. When you flash the Engineering SPL it will read 32B because that is what is needed to flash the custom recovery and roms. However your device will not work properly because it's a 32A/32B hybrid. You need the 32A stock firmware (1.33.0013 S-ON) for the phone to operate. You also need the appropriate 32B radio and rom as well.
I have the phone and I've had it since it's release. I started off by making custom roms for it and ports before roms were using VoxLuna's driver patch. Trust me when I say that I know a little about this damn phone!
You know what... to hell with it. Do whatever you want. Don't be sending me private messages begging for help when you brick your device because you think it's a 32A.
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And I thought the Vibrant forums were hostile. I am glad that you have had your phone for so long and I am quite sure you know what you are talking about. Like I stated, this phone is just sitting around the house collecting dust and thought I would mess with it. If I brick it... great. If I make it the fastest MyTouch it can be... great.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you and all the other developers and contributors do for random users like myself, but give a guy a break. You have to admit that this phone is a little dated and it's like knowing how to run Windows Vista and 7 then going back to do the same things on a Commadore.
DonJuan692006 said:
The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
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Exactly, all he needs is a custom G recovery (which he should have) and then flash the 1.33.0013 stock spl BACK on. Afterwards, he can flash any 32B rom he wants and it should work as long as it's later than CM-4.2.15.
DonJuan692006 said:
The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
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Thank you for the non-violent approach. I know how it is when you have a new guy just blowing his phone up and he goes screaming for help. Not what I was trying to do. Just tinkering with a new device to get some more know-how under the belt.
Much appreciated, Don!
I will let you know what I can get accomplished with your advice.
offdutyninja808 said:
And I thought the Vibrant forums were hostile. I am glad that you have had your phone for so long and I am quite sure you know what you are talking about. Like I stated, this phone is just sitting around the house collecting dust and thought I would mess with it. If I brick it... great. If I make it the fastest MyTouch it can be... great.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you and all the other developers and contributors do for random users like myself, but give a guy a break. You have to admit that this phone is a little dated and it's like knowing how to run Windows Vista and 7 then going back to do the same things on a Commadore.
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He wasn't fussing at you, he was getting at the other guy for feeding you false information.
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My apologies, Binary. Following forums over time you tend to see so much hostility over pretty much nothing. It's a learning experience. Just as I had to learn my other phone, some things the hard way, I will be able to steer people in the right direction and help others after I get this one down.
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And I thought the Vibrant forums were hostile. I am glad that you have had your phone for so long and I am quite sure you know what you are talking about. Like I stated, this phone is just sitting around the house collecting dust and thought I would mess with it. If I brick it... great. If I make it the fastest MyTouch it can be... great.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you and all the other developers and contributors do for random users like myself, but give a guy a break. You have to admit that this phone is a little dated and it's like knowing how to run Windows Vista and 7 then going back to do the same things on a Commadore.
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I'm not trying to be hostile but all of the information is available here in the forums. The developers, senior members and moderators like myself have spent HUNDREDS OF HOURS making sure it can be referenced one way or another. They are in stickies and even in MY SIGNATURE. The only other thing we can do for you is do it ourselves! Yet even with a clean and clear explaination this still comes up. We even get some people that post threads saying that they bricked their phones because they thought for sure it was a 32A and they try to hold me responsible. I will be happy to forward some hateful e-mails to you that I get at least 2 or 3 times a week average because people couldn't find the information... yet... if they followed rule #1 of the forums... they wouldn't have the problem.
Look... at least you got the right information and avoided bricking your phone. But I really hate repeating myself over and over again with the same information so I need to be tougher to get my point across otherwise other members will likely use the wrong information and end up breaking their phones... which I will not be held liable for!
DonJuan692006 said:
He wasn't fussing at you, he was getting at the other guy for feeding you false information.
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Right on Don. I'm not angry at you OffDutyNinja808 however the other guy (CBATESY) should be warned that I could give him an infraction for giving out bad information.
Binary100100 said:
Right on Don. I'm not angry at you OffDutyNinja808 however the other guy (CBATESY) should be warned that I could give him an infraction for giving out bad information.
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On another note, Don, I made a new sticky thread just for this issue.
Feel free to add your wisdom to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893004
Okay... so I followed Don's instructions and the phone now says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23. 02
I tried flashing the same CM and it gets past the mytouch splash but doesn't go past the next loading X screen.
From what you guys said everything is looking right. Any thing look out of ordinary or sound crazy from what i'm saying?
Thanks again!
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offdutyninja808 said:
Okay... so I followed Don's instructions and the phone now says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23. 02
I tried flashing the same CM and it gets past the mytouch splash but doesn't go past the next loading X screen.
From what you guys said everything is looking right. Any thing look out of ordinary or sound crazy from what i'm saying?
Thanks again!
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Loading X screen?
What rom are you trying to install?
What kernel?
And now i'm in like tube socks! I just woke up and tried it again and it booted right up.
Binary, it was the same CM 5.0.8-DS. As far as the kernel goes, I didn't flash any separate. The X boot screen I mentioned is the Nexus One load screen (I believe).
The only thing that I did differently this morning was wipe/factory reset, then davlik.
Okay... so from my understanding now:
I have to have a perfected SPL, not an engineering SPL.
I have to use the custom (AMAN RA) recovery and never use ClockworkMod.
Ensure that any other roms I want are 32b.
Now as far as the radio goes, is it best to stay with the radio it came with?
Again, thanks for the advice!
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DonJuan692006 said:
The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
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Don, two things...
1. I searched through the ROM bible and didn't find any place to download 6.1.
2. When I try to download the Google Apps from the page you sent me the link to yesterday, it asks for a user name and password. I have 5.0.8 up and running, but with no market and things like that.
Thanks!
Okay... I am now running FroyoRedux-1.9.5 with the Galaxy theme. Everything is smooth as butter.
I fixed the links in the post I pointed you to and updated them to what you news for CM 6.1
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offdutyninja808 said:
And now i'm in like tube socks! I just woke up and tried it again and it booted right up.
Binary, it was the same CM 5.0.8-DS. As far as the kernel goes, I didn't flash any separate. The X boot screen I mentioned is the Nexus One load screen (I believe).
The only thing that I did differently this morning was wipe/factory reset, then davlik.
Okay... so from my understanding now:
I have to use the custom (AMAN RA) recovery and never use ClockworkMod.
Now as far as the radio goes, is it best to stay with the radio it came with?
Again, thanks for the advice!
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You can use clockwork. I use it without any problems. Some people like AmonRa better though. If you run CM6 there have been issues about people not being able to flash the recovery for some reason. Just keep trying and it will stick eventually. Just make sure that you flash the one for MyTouch/Ion devices.
Radio - keep the one that your using.
Roms - 32B ONLY
Related
Okay, I have a Mytouch 1.2 and I understand this process, but I have no idea which SPL to flash, can anybody with a Mytouch 1.2/LE help?
Splash and bootscreen
I think for all my touch that's the same, you simply need an eng engineering spl (so you can remote fastboot and flash from your pc).
To safely flash an engineering spl there's a pretty good thread started by lbcoder in the g1 forum, you should chheck it.
Then there's 2 things, the link you posted from unlocker is a method to change the splash screen (the one with your carrier logo).
To create a proper splash screen image use the enclosed soft.
or this http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/12/quick-and-dirty-converter-tool-to.html
Then if you want to change the bootscreen (the second one, usually android) you need to change:
* the mask and shine pics in
/system/framework/framework-res.apk/assets/images
if your rom is donut based
*or simply change the gif animation in
/system/media/bootanimation.zip
if your rom is eclair based.
engenering spl
What I remember about the post I mentioned.
Basically to safely flash an engineering spl you need to flash the one matching your stock one (e.g. 1.33.2005 for 1.33.0005) and then if you wanna change to a different engineering spl (not matching your radio ... ...) you must flash it via fastboot otherwise good chance to brick.
Anyhow, you should make sure to well check all of it first
Okay, I tried the Engineering 2010 SPL, but then my phone had no audio for music or phone calls, is there another SPL I should try?
Hey after a quick look here, I think there's still no engeenering spl matching yours.So you should maybe go back to regular one.
Did you try to flash the splash screen even before changing the spl. Your stock spl might allow it.
sipvn said:
Hey after a quick look here, I think there's still no engeenering spl matching yours.So you should maybe go back to regular one.
Did you try to flash the splash screen even before changing the spl. Your stock spl might allow it.
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No, my stock SPL doesn't let me. Anybody else with a Mytouch 1.2/Fender manage to change the splash?
C0dy said:
No, my stock SPL doesn't let me. Anybody else with a Mytouch 1.2/Fender manage to change the splash?
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NOOOOO dont go messing with spl/ radios. You will brick. Right now, we dont know what does what with what. I know it sux, I lost the fender splash screem that I will probably never get back. But doing this is still not safe yet.
Just give it a bit of time till we can get whats safe and whats not straightened out. To many people have bricked these phones since release not knowing how new of a piece of hardware it actually is.
Its your phone, do what you want... but its not worth the risks
Hey after a quick look here, I think there's still no engeenering spl matching yours.So you should maybe go back to regular one.
Did you try to flash
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No, my stock SPL doesn't let me. Anybody else with a Mytouch 1.2/Fender manage to change the splash?
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I've changed mine several times. flash it while rooting your phone. flash radio, hboot, recovery and then splash1
crypysmoker said:
NOOOOO dont go messing with spl/ radios. You will brick. Right now, we dont know what does what with what. I know it sux, I lost the fender splash screem that I will probably never get back. But doing this is still not safe yet.
Just give it a bit of time till we can get whats safe and whats not straightened out. To many people have bricked these phones since release not knowing how new of a piece of hardware it actually is.
Its your phone, do what you want... but its not worth the risks
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Yeah, the no audio thing freaked me out, so I'm staying away from messing around with SPL for now.
I just changed the boot image,so now mytouch 3g 3.5mm is back to the previous mytouch3g boot image.
This is my device:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27
Recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2G,it might sound crazy,but it works like a charm.
And this is what I tried and what I got.
First I did the SPL downgrade to Engineering 2010 SPL,as stated no audio for music or phone calls.So after this update my sapphire became a PVT 32B with 2010 SPL.
This is what I did to get the sound back and the 1.33.0013 SPL.
Code:
fastboot flash hboot hboot_7201A_1.33.0013G_091021.nb0
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2G.img
I uploaded the hboot_7201A_1.33.0013G_091021.nb0
After this I rebooted,the boot image remained there and the audio problems were gone,besides this the device is back to:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
So now I have all the goodies from before,the mytouch boot image and the Android blue letters.I did neither have to use my nandroid backup nor update the radio.
I hope the explanation is not really complicated,but english is not my 1st language.
If you have questions just ask.
u know I thought about this before I even rooted... so since I have a 1.2 when I was re flashing. the stock radio, stock spl and amen ras recovery.. I also flashed the mytouch original splash screen... I think this should be mention to new people rooting this device so that they don't run in to the issue later riskin bricking their phone trying to get it back
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SO basically i flash the engineering 2010 SPL change my splash screen then hboot that .nbo file to get my original SPl back?
dude i know how to do this just flash the spl then change the image to something you like then go back to the original i did it and it worked
where did you get the original images?
Go to thrunlockr.com and find there how to guide they have a link to the original splash screen
where did you get the original images?
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C0dy said:
No, my stock SPL doesn't let me. Anybody else with a Mytouch 1.2/Fender manage to change the splash?
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Came across this and started reading but didnt get to last page so sorry if its an old post and im bringing it back from the dead... I noticed someone said something about bricking the phone so im either lucky or it doesnt brick the phone... Short background on what i did...
I had a g1, digitizer started doing what it wants and not what my finger did so i bought a used mytouch. great except i had cyanogen froyo 2.2 on my g1 so i miss it lol i did everything through theUnlockr.com made the gold card, installed the sdk crap, got the rom the instructions said to use first which was the cyanogen 2.1 rom... well when i did all this i lost the original Mytouch start up it now said HTC Magic or Dream cant remember i just know it said HTC then something and it was black screen... No no... so i again found on the Unlockr site how to change the splash screen "http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-change-your-splash-screen/" Mind you the Engineering spl sais 2010 i had 2013 on my phone so i bascily downgraded i guess? once i did that i lost audio through the earpeace.... but i got the mytouch splash screen again... so i then reflashed the spl back to the one i used when rooting the phone but the mytouch splash screen stayed... Sooo not sure if this helps in anyway but just sharing what happend to me in hopes it answers your question .....
here is the deal, we don't run an eng SPL. So we don't have the ability to flash from fastboot. I do agree with ceas909, flashing the splash (or any custom splash) should be stated in the rooting guide.
After that, you need to do redo the rooting process with a goldcard to get the ENG SPL temp on the phone to flash custom splash, then flash back to stock SPL.
Hello...
Fairly new here...
Also new to this rooting/rom business...
but, to the point.
I have a Rogers Magic 32A, with the stock Rogers rom.
my fastboot specs are
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76. 0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.10.18
Jan 14 2010, 00:14:58
I am using the universal androot app, and running ROM Manager.
Whenever I boot into recovery, it either freezes after a few seconds, or resets the phone back to the first splash screen, and continues to work as normal (no bricking or any of that jazz.)
So anyway, my question is...
Does anyone know why it's doing this?
I got it to flash Cyanogenmod 6.0 once, but it didn't actually install.
Do I need a different radio and SPL?
I've tried searching, and I found nothing... but if there is already a thread with this issue, I'll gladly revert to that, and delete this thread.
TL;DR
-Phone is involuntarily restarting when I go into recovery mode
-Running stock Rogers rom, ROM manager, rooted with universal androot app
-New to android customization
-Am I doing anything wrong?
Thanks for reading.
I have the same problem!!
What I can do to fix it?
I'm really scared ...
the problem likely is you are loading the ebi1 recovery (magic 32a running 3.x radio) on you "hero like" magic (magic 32a running 6.x radio)
The hero recovery will work but you may find few roms.
I'd reccomend these rooting instructions
The process will work from the top I believe but since you ran androot after placing the files onto the phone you can skip to where I run exploid (with the seceetlol password) and run 'su' instead of exploid.
Once you have a 3.x radio with working rom and recovery if you want to checkout rom manager you can hopefully with less issues and if an issue happens you can always flash a recovery via fastboot.
I did end up fixing my issue.
Great Big Dog on the androidforums helped me out...
I tried to look for my thread that I posted on the androidforums, but I guess it got deleted...
pretty much... I followed GBD's quick root guide for the post 911 update for rogers magics, with a tiny bit of a switch for flashing the amonRA rom.
I can't remember exactly what it was, and I really wish that thread didn't get deleted.
And I can't link in any posts, so I can't really help you out.
I usually always just suggest installing a fresh RUU, especially if you don't know what you're doing... like me.
you can probably find one on the htc website.
I am new to Android and this is my first device.... Previously, owned HTC P3600, HTC Diamond 2 and now got the HTC Magic today.
I read the Development section and question section...
Just want to confirm the following about it:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
Yes it's easy to brick if you just start flashing things without doing your research. The best/easiest way to root is to use one of the many programs available that will do it for you without the risk of bricking. I'll let someone else comment on upgrading your radio, but I can tell you that you will not have to update it. There are ROM's that will work with that radio just fine.
mustking said:
I am new to Android and this is my first device.... Previously, owned HTC P3600, HTC Diamond 2 and now got the HTC Magic today.
I read the Development section and question section...
Just want to confirm the following about it:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.00.10 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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You should just follow the instructions for your particular device. Since there are dozens of different MyTouch devices and many of them are different in a variety of ways then it can be argued that there are better methods bearing better results than others. In a nutshell, there is no universal answer to your question. Being unfamiliar with your SPL (HBOOT-1.33.00.10???) I can't even begin to point you in the correct direction. Can you verify that information please?
In most cases it is recommened that you have an Engineering SPL for fastboot access. From there you can easily flash a custom recovery which in turn will allow you to flash a custom rom (along with making system backups, data wiping, etc) but neither are hardly a requirement. Radio? Again... depends on what you have specifically. Some roms require a certain radio or it will fail to even load. And only certain devices with certain SPL's (yours being 1.33.00.10???) can use certain radio types. The danger comes in when you attempt to flash an incompatible radio with the wrong SPL. This is why it is crucial to verify ALL information before beginning.
Any recommended SPL for mine device...?
I believe the OP meant to put 1.33.2010 for his SPL but I don't want to speculate. Could you please post your fastboot information again and double-check that it is correct.
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Yes, i rewrite it.... Here is the details....
DonJuan692006 said:
I believe the OP meant to put 1.33.2010 for his SPL but I don't want to speculate. Could you please post your fastboot information again and double-check that it is correct.
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SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
mustking said:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548096
mustking said:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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Q1) Yes the spl is optional. When newbies (which are the main target of the guide you linked too) come here, they are looking for an easy upgrade. Playing around with spl and such is not a good idea, unless you do your research... Sadly only 1 out of 100 do that. That's why the custom recovery is a perfect solution. You really have to do some stupid **** before you COMPLETELY **** up your device. Plus you can do almost anything using custom recovery.
Flashing a spl ( as i write in my guide) is only valid if you know some shell commands, know the difference between img and zip files, plus understand how the device is build around the different partitions, e.g. radio, system, misc ect. Sadly only few uses the time to understand the above and we have like 1-3 every day crying for help.
SO - only flash spl if you know what you are doing or have done the research.
Q2) There are no custom radios. Only stock. For your device, the 32A or more correctly the CPLD-12, there are 2 different combos of radio/spl/recovery you can use.
Read around for more info as this has been written like 100 times :0)
Q3) Well, it depends :0)
If you play around with spl or radio you can brick your device. Again to understand why here is some simplified info.
Spl - Secondary program loader - is the data that has to be loaded when the device wakes up. When you push power button, the hardware wakes up, and follows VERY SPECIFIC steps to activate all the internal components. When it's semi done, it goes for the spl to load the rest. The spl always has to be on the same place or the device will not know where to look. The device is like child(which is born again every time you hit the power). When you hit the power button, it have some instincts(the steps) then it gets more and more intelligent as time goes by and more and more data is been loaded and processed. Think of the spl as the first part of computers BIOS. When the spl loads, it has to get some info about the complicated hardware, like the screen, antenna, sound ect. That's what the radio is for. So the spl has to know WHERE to look for the radio, and the radio has to be in a certain format or the spl will be confused. Remember, we are very early in the loading process of the device, so the data is very machine-close and in a very specific format.
When the spl is done, and the radio has been processed, then it will look at the boot partition for info on how to load the OS. The boot partition has info about how to load the OS and the different partitions, e.g. userdata, system ect. It will also try to load the kernel which is the CORE of the OS. It handles the ram, filesystem, I/O, mount of sdcard ect.
BACK TO THE POINT:
If you mess up the first part (spl or radio) then your bricked. You device is like a 2 week old child and is useless. It wakes up, poops on you and sleeps again.
So, DON'T **** UP THE SPL OR RADIO.
If you mess up the rest, you can still recover the device. Some times that can be very limited because of the perfected spl, but that's for another thread :0)
So, for your device, follow my guide and you should be good to go. If you are confident, then flash eng spl also :0)
It's up to you to decide....
Good luck
Thanks everyone i ended up making the device rooted and flashed the custom recovery for a moment....
I have no plan to **** my SPL or radio and play with it later like football....
So, i am happy that i have now rooted and custom recovery installed... Any easy guide to load the rom?
Thank you everyone....
Download ROM, copy to root of SD card, boot into recovery, select flash ZIP from SD card, select ROM .zip file. That's the general idea, but some ROM's require that you flash extra files. For example CyanogenMod will require that you also flash a Google Add-on file.
Any rom that don't require any extra work and flash directly?
Come on... you started this thread perfectly... now don't mess it up.
Read around, do some research. You will find 90 % of your questions has already been answered within the first 10 threads...
Ok, thnx for your reply... i got the rom but i am scared that many refer to have nandbackup to restore if something goes wrong... and i didn't found the step by step guide to do so.... and yes one more problem appered my htc sync no longer detect the device.... i am still looking for the solution to this....
mustking said:
Ok, thnx for your reply... i got the rom but i am scared that many refer to have nandbackup to restore if something goes wrong... and i didn't found the step by step guide to do so.... and yes one more problem appered my htc sync no longer detect the device.... i am still looking for the solution to this....
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If you have ROM manager installed, just click "Backup Current ROM" from the menu.
DonJuan692006 said:
If you have ROM manager installed, just click "Backup Current ROM" from the menu.
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The problem was that i have no market in application menu because it was carrier locked to 1.5 donut with no google application... But, i managed all it is now running 2.2.1 but only problem i am facing right now is how i sync it with outlook... before it gaves me message, when i connect to HTC Sync now no message after the custom rom....???
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WOOOOOOOOOOOOORKKKKKKKKKKKKKKED.... Will soon list all the steps i followed....
So, I rooted my fiances Mytouch 3G original and it's been so long I don't remember what I did. Now theres a one click methods, different numbers 32a and 32b and there's radios and all this other stuff I didn't have to worry about then (I think)
I updated her to the Betamod AOSP using the same method as I would do with my Vibrant and well it works, but the text messaging dictionary is in German and the battery life was horrible so I wanna take her to Yoshi 1.0 RC5.1, so I'm doing all this research to make sure I do it right (part of me wants to brick it so she'll get a new phone, she hates spending money on phones when they work) and she's overdue for a full upgrade.
I'm reading these guides and all these other things and I keep linking and linking and linking and it's kind of overwhelming. I think I had 6 or 7 tabs open before I decided to just start a thread. I wasn't sure if the threads I was reading applied to me. It was very confusing.
Can someone please just point me to the right direction.
I'm assuming with the research and reading I've done is that she needs the 32b roms and her radio and kernal I will have to look at when she gets home. I may need help finding that info, but please let me try and report it first.
I'm sorry if this is an annoying noob post, but if you guys can give me exactly what I need I will read about it.
vahdyx said:
So, I rooted my fiances Mytouch 3G original and it's been so long I don't remember what I did. Now theres a one click methods, different numbers 32a and 32b and there's radios and all this other stuff I didn't have to worry about then (I think)
I updated her to the Betamod AOSP using the same method as I would do with my Vibrant and well it works, but the text messaging dictionary is in German and the battery life was horrible so I wanna take her to Yoshi 1.0 RC5.1, so I'm doing all this research to make sure I do it right (part of me wants to brick it so she'll get a new phone, she hates spending money on phones when they work) and she's overdue for a full upgrade.
I'm reading these guides and all these other things and I keep linking and linking and linking and it's kind of overwhelming. I think I had 6 or 7 tabs open before I decided to just start a thread. I wasn't sure if the threads I was reading applied to me. It was very confusing.
Can someone please just point me to the right direction.
I'm assuming with the research and reading I've done is that she needs the 32b roms and her radio and kernal I will have to look at when she gets home. I may need help finding that info, but please let me try and report it first.
I'm sorry if this is an annoying noob post, but if you guys can give me exactly what I need I will read about it.
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If it is a 32b you will need to update spl and radio but a link to a guide to that is in the ginger yoshi op. Everthing you need should be in the ginger yoshi op in fact. You can use Amon_Ra for the ext4 part, the thread for installing that is in the same forum as yoshi's just a few threads up. Hope that helps.
Get us the fastboot info and we'll get you taken care of. Is the phone still rooted?
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Thanks guys, here's her HBOOT info
32b and S-on
Hboot 1.33.0006
CPLD - 10
Radio 2.22.23.02
I don't know if you need anything else, but yes the phone is still rooted
I'll defer to DonJuan's expertise here but, I think you sould be fine following Yoshi's OP. Ginger Yoshi requires the new radio/spl combo but the steps are all there. If I understand correctly the ext partition is optional but highly recommended and will be required in future releases.
Okay before I proceed, I downloaded
update.Engineering-SPL-HBOOT-1.33.2010-signed
recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.7.0G
Ohsaka-SuperWipe_v2
radio
hboot
These are zips except the Recovery file. I'm gonna put them all on my SD card and flash them in recovery. Then I'm gonna flash the rom.
Good?
Superwipe first
Recovery second
hboot third
engineering hboot fourth
Radio 5th
Then the ROM
Wait, actually where did you get the hboot/radio files from? Need to make sure they're the right one's, but I actually think you may be on the right track.
If I'm not mistaken you shouldn't need the engineering spl if you are going to flash the radio and spl via recovery, you only need it if you are going to use fastboot to install them.
So (Again if I'm not mistaken):
1. Recovery
2. Superwipe
3. Radio
4. Hboot
5. Rom
The guide I used to upgrade my radio/spl seemed simplest, worked great. Sorry I'm not allowed to post links here yet but it is at cyanogenmod.com search for a thread called New radio dream +15MB EXTRA RAM! for HTC DREAM
Look for post by -Stevo- on page 2, he does "Amazing" work.
turkeyshark said:
If I'm not mistaken you shouldn't need the engineering spl if you are going to flash the radio and spl via recovery, you only need it if you are going to use fastboot to install them.
So (Again if I'm not mistaken):
1. Recovery
2. Superwipe
3. Radio
4. Hboot
5. Rom
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Right, pending he has the right radio/SPL.
DonJuan692006 said:
Wait, actually where did you get the hboot/radio files from? Need to make sure they're the right one's, but I actually think you may be on the right track.
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I got it from step number 3 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909900
vahdyx said:
I got it from step number 3 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909900
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Should be all set then.
Well did the steps and bricked the phone, it's on an endless loop, it won't flash the ROM for some reason. So I'm happy, we're picking up a new HD7 tomorrow. LOL, I got my wish.
I booted into recovery, did a nandroid, flashed super wipe, flashed radio, flashed Hboot, flashed rom and rom gave me an error. Have no other rom on SD card so I can't do anything else. Nandroid restore doesn't do what I need it to do and won't fix the problem.
Here's what my Hboot says now
Sapphire PVT 32B Ship S-ON G
HBOOT 1.33.0013d
CPLD 10
Radio 2.22.27.08
Oct 21 2009
***Edit***
I forgot to wipe cache before installing ROM, dammit everything is fine! She's asleep now, so maybe I shouldn't tell her the mytouch is working now.
Hello,
I am kind of new to this whole modding thing so I am googling stuff and searching a whole bunch of stuff but it is just leading me in circles.
Allow me to first of all explain my phone. It has the 2.1-update1 from Rogers on it.
Details
SAP PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.16.19
And I want to put Yoshi Froyo (or any good android 2.2).
So I looked at a bunch of articles and started following one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918) and I got my phone rooted (with superuser permissions and all that jazz).
Okay cool, so now I need a recovery image. I installed the one listed (Recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img) and then I restarted my phone and went into recovery just to make sure it worked, and it did.
Okay so now I went to the thread and read it all and found some instructions
"-Make sure you have the .27.08 or .28.25 radio and .0013(d) spl... if not see extras...
-Superwipe twice
-Recovery wipe the list twice
-install ROM
-Enjoy ^__^"
So now I know I don't have a .27.08 radio and I don't know what spl I have, but I assume I don't have that one either. So I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909900 as it said and read it, but here is where I become confused.
Do I need to downgrade to 1.5 or 1.6? Or can I do it from 2.1? I tried following (http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-unroot-your-mytouch-3g/) and the SAPPIMG.nbh came up invalid, so then I tried another one and it also came up invalid.
So here is my question, do I need to downgrade in order to install a custom rom? I've read a bunch of conflicting material and I don't have any desire to brick my phone. Some say I do some say I don't.
Any help? thanks!
Well first of all you have a diff radio then most of us cause of rodgers. And the 2708 is a dream radio not magic same with the spl you mentioned. As long as you have root you can custom rom.
And I would recommend cm6.1 stable I find it more stable then yoshi's right now I like yoshi's but I think it still has a little way to go.
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I know it's a magic cause it does not have a keyboard. I bought it with cupcake on it and then I got the Rogers Sense UI Rom update to android 2.1-update1 and then I got the 911 fix.
Edit: I got HBOOT-1.76.2007 with S-OFF on my phone by following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918
Now I am trying to get the 3.22 rom on it and when I load up fastboot usb it shows the device in my device manager "Android Bootloader Interface" but it won't show up in fastboot.
nvm I had everything I needed already, I simply put on CM6 and it worked.