I am new to Android and this is my first device.... Previously, owned HTC P3600, HTC Diamond 2 and now got the HTC Magic today.
I read the Development section and question section...
Just want to confirm the following about it:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
Yes it's easy to brick if you just start flashing things without doing your research. The best/easiest way to root is to use one of the many programs available that will do it for you without the risk of bricking. I'll let someone else comment on upgrading your radio, but I can tell you that you will not have to update it. There are ROM's that will work with that radio just fine.
mustking said:
I am new to Android and this is my first device.... Previously, owned HTC P3600, HTC Diamond 2 and now got the HTC Magic today.
I read the Development section and question section...
Just want to confirm the following about it:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.00.10 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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You should just follow the instructions for your particular device. Since there are dozens of different MyTouch devices and many of them are different in a variety of ways then it can be argued that there are better methods bearing better results than others. In a nutshell, there is no universal answer to your question. Being unfamiliar with your SPL (HBOOT-1.33.00.10???) I can't even begin to point you in the correct direction. Can you verify that information please?
In most cases it is recommened that you have an Engineering SPL for fastboot access. From there you can easily flash a custom recovery which in turn will allow you to flash a custom rom (along with making system backups, data wiping, etc) but neither are hardly a requirement. Radio? Again... depends on what you have specifically. Some roms require a certain radio or it will fail to even load. And only certain devices with certain SPL's (yours being 1.33.00.10???) can use certain radio types. The danger comes in when you attempt to flash an incompatible radio with the wrong SPL. This is why it is crucial to verify ALL information before beginning.
Any recommended SPL for mine device...?
I believe the OP meant to put 1.33.2010 for his SPL but I don't want to speculate. Could you please post your fastboot information again and double-check that it is correct.
Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk
Yes, i rewrite it.... Here is the details....
DonJuan692006 said:
I believe the OP meant to put 1.33.2010 for his SPL but I don't want to speculate. Could you please post your fastboot information again and double-check that it is correct.
Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk
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SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
mustking said:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548096
mustking said:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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Q1) Yes the spl is optional. When newbies (which are the main target of the guide you linked too) come here, they are looking for an easy upgrade. Playing around with spl and such is not a good idea, unless you do your research... Sadly only 1 out of 100 do that. That's why the custom recovery is a perfect solution. You really have to do some stupid **** before you COMPLETELY **** up your device. Plus you can do almost anything using custom recovery.
Flashing a spl ( as i write in my guide) is only valid if you know some shell commands, know the difference between img and zip files, plus understand how the device is build around the different partitions, e.g. radio, system, misc ect. Sadly only few uses the time to understand the above and we have like 1-3 every day crying for help.
SO - only flash spl if you know what you are doing or have done the research.
Q2) There are no custom radios. Only stock. For your device, the 32A or more correctly the CPLD-12, there are 2 different combos of radio/spl/recovery you can use.
Read around for more info as this has been written like 100 times :0)
Q3) Well, it depends :0)
If you play around with spl or radio you can brick your device. Again to understand why here is some simplified info.
Spl - Secondary program loader - is the data that has to be loaded when the device wakes up. When you push power button, the hardware wakes up, and follows VERY SPECIFIC steps to activate all the internal components. When it's semi done, it goes for the spl to load the rest. The spl always has to be on the same place or the device will not know where to look. The device is like child(which is born again every time you hit the power). When you hit the power button, it have some instincts(the steps) then it gets more and more intelligent as time goes by and more and more data is been loaded and processed. Think of the spl as the first part of computers BIOS. When the spl loads, it has to get some info about the complicated hardware, like the screen, antenna, sound ect. That's what the radio is for. So the spl has to know WHERE to look for the radio, and the radio has to be in a certain format or the spl will be confused. Remember, we are very early in the loading process of the device, so the data is very machine-close and in a very specific format.
When the spl is done, and the radio has been processed, then it will look at the boot partition for info on how to load the OS. The boot partition has info about how to load the OS and the different partitions, e.g. userdata, system ect. It will also try to load the kernel which is the CORE of the OS. It handles the ram, filesystem, I/O, mount of sdcard ect.
BACK TO THE POINT:
If you mess up the first part (spl or radio) then your bricked. You device is like a 2 week old child and is useless. It wakes up, poops on you and sleeps again.
So, DON'T **** UP THE SPL OR RADIO.
If you mess up the rest, you can still recover the device. Some times that can be very limited because of the perfected spl, but that's for another thread :0)
So, for your device, follow my guide and you should be good to go. If you are confident, then flash eng spl also :0)
It's up to you to decide....
Good luck
Thanks everyone i ended up making the device rooted and flashed the custom recovery for a moment....
I have no plan to **** my SPL or radio and play with it later like football....
So, i am happy that i have now rooted and custom recovery installed... Any easy guide to load the rom?
Thank you everyone....
Download ROM, copy to root of SD card, boot into recovery, select flash ZIP from SD card, select ROM .zip file. That's the general idea, but some ROM's require that you flash extra files. For example CyanogenMod will require that you also flash a Google Add-on file.
Any rom that don't require any extra work and flash directly?
Come on... you started this thread perfectly... now don't mess it up.
Read around, do some research. You will find 90 % of your questions has already been answered within the first 10 threads...
Ok, thnx for your reply... i got the rom but i am scared that many refer to have nandbackup to restore if something goes wrong... and i didn't found the step by step guide to do so.... and yes one more problem appered my htc sync no longer detect the device.... i am still looking for the solution to this....
mustking said:
Ok, thnx for your reply... i got the rom but i am scared that many refer to have nandbackup to restore if something goes wrong... and i didn't found the step by step guide to do so.... and yes one more problem appered my htc sync no longer detect the device.... i am still looking for the solution to this....
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If you have ROM manager installed, just click "Backup Current ROM" from the menu.
DonJuan692006 said:
If you have ROM manager installed, just click "Backup Current ROM" from the menu.
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The problem was that i have no market in application menu because it was carrier locked to 1.5 donut with no google application... But, i managed all it is now running 2.2.1 but only problem i am facing right now is how i sync it with outlook... before it gaves me message, when i connect to HTC Sync now no message after the custom rom....???
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WOOOOOOOOOOOOORKKKKKKKKKKKKKKED.... Will soon list all the steps i followed....
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Hi,
I've posted pretty much the same yesterday in the development section in Amon_RA recovery thread, but figured it wasn't the best thing to do, so I'm moving my questions here, where they have probably belonged all along...(and I'll edit my post there)
I'm not exactly noob when it comes to PC, Linux, phones and stuff, but I've been trying to make some sense of this SPL and radio stuff for days for the fear of bricking my phone (it's rather expensive, after all) and the more I read, the more confused I in fact become. It seems to me there's a lot of contradicting info available here in the forums.
First, I've got the 32A european HTC branded Magic:
PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009, 21:02:32
Now, on the thread about Amon_RA recovery, it says in big red letters "Make sure your phone is rooted and that you are using an engineerings SPL". Also, a few pages into the very same thread, there's this:
skittleguy said:
If you can confirm it works through fastboot, then you can also do this:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RAv1.1(G or H, depending on your version).img
This will flash it to your phone. Note that you'll need an engineering SPL for this.
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However, when I rooted my phone a few weeks back, I used Amon_RA recovery 1.2.0 - the latest at the time - without flashing it permanently to make nandroid backup of the unrooted phone and then to apply the necessary patches to root my phone succesfuly. Then I flashed the Amon_RA recovery without any problems directly into the phone and been using it since, even did some nandroid backups and restores without any problems at all. Should this even be possible without the engineering SPL (which I figure I don't have, it being .0009 and S-ON)? If I understood the SPL info correctly, it shouldn't, but I was still able to do it...So how come?
Also, can I perhaps try to flash some custom ROM for 32A without the risk of bricking the device? Am I right in my understanding that pretty much the only way to brick the phone is to start messing with radio and SPL? So is there any risk involved in just downloading a ROM, wiping the phone, flashing the update to see if it works without tampering with radio/SPL?
As for the Hero ROMs, once again, do I need to update radio and/or SPL to make them work or can I just try? And if I DO update them (I gather the .2005 SPL should work in my Magic, not really sure about radios, though) and I want to go back to my original ROM for some reason (given that I have nandroid backup available), will I be required to downgrade radio/SPL back as well (therefore be once again exposed to the risk of bricking the phone)?
Thanks for any clarifications on these. If someone can direct me to some clear info on the issues, I'll gladly take that, but as I've said, most of the informations I've dug out the past few days (and weeks, actually) only deepen my confusion. I'm quite sure my questions have probably been answered a lot of times before, but this forum is so packed with information it's becoming hard to actually find exactly what you're looking for, even if you try to do so. Thanks again.
LOL I have this:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0006 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
Radio-2.22.19.261
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
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I think it's a perfected SPL but who knows.. Satan?
I want to update my lame ass SPL to one of these bad boys:
Haykuro's "Death" SPL
OR
Magic SPL HBOOT Collection
From these Awesome Website and Also Awesome, I've narrowed down the steps to Victory!
Here's what my Brain thinks:
1.) Download an SPL (i.e Haykuro's "Death" SPL).
2.) Transfer to SD Card.
3.) Go into Recovery Mode (Amon_Ra-v1.5.2G)
4.) Scroll down to "Flash zip from sdcard".
5.) Flash Haykuro's "Death" SPL.
6.) Reboot system now and wait for it to enter Recovery Mode again.
8.) Check for new SPL, and you're done?
My Q's:
1.) Are my steps horribly wrong and could possibly brick my phone?
2.) No wiping required?
3.) If it gets stuck on Formatting CACHE for a long long long time..what to do?
your rooted
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
so i doubt you can get to recovery
sitimber said:
your rooted
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
so i doubt you can get to recovery
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Yes, I know I'm rooted. I just want to update my spl to the latest. And I can definitely get to recovery mode, was just flashing a couple of roms earlier.
Give me some help, bro!
i am also confused. I have a mytouch 3g with a "perfect" (1.33.0006)SPL... what does that mean? what cant I do with this SPL that I can do with a danger SPL? I already have CM Recovery 1.4 + latest Cyanogen Mod rom...
Man, if you don't know what an SPL is, then you're "so 2000 and late." Haha sorry, I had to man
k but instead of sounding smart cause you know something us people who are late dont... how bout explaining?
kareeem said:
Man, if you don't know what an SPL is, then you're "so 2000 and late." Haha sorry, I had to man
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Hahahaha and that beat goes zoooom zoooom zooom
kareeem stop making jokes help us out, LOL
What's your current SPL, and how did you install it?
melterx12 said:
k but instead of sounding smart cause you know something us people who are late dont... how bout explaining?
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I only said that line because it was the only one i could find that fit with the lyrics I don't even have an Android device so there's your answer.
this is so frustrating ive googled this for almost an hour and I still cant find anything that explains exactly what a non perfect SPL does and how to go about flashing it and which one to flash!
melterx12 said:
this is so frustrating ive googled this for almost an hour and I still cant find anything that explains exactly what a non perfect SPL does and how to go about flashing it and which one to flash!
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Haha yeah same here bro.
Hope someone can enlighten us about how they upgraded their spl.
All I know is that its short for "splash image" and has something to do with the boot up process. My dad is a programer (during a coversation about android and linux) explained the SPL to me during Fourth of July but I was a little too drunk to care and pay attention.
well actually SPL stands for Second Program Loader. That much i know for sure. I also know that its the equivalent of a bootloader. what i DONT know and neither does anyone else by the looks of it (lol), is what the difference is between a perfect SPL and a Danger SPL, and how to go about flashing a danger SPL for mytouch 3g? and which danger SPL is the best?
BoomBoomPOW said:
LOL I have this:
I think it's a perfected SPL but who knows.. Satan?
I want to update my lame ass SPL to one of these bad boys:
Haykuro's "Death" SPL
OR
Magic SPL HBOOT Collection
From these Awesome Website and Also Awesome, I've narrowed down the steps to Victory!
Here's what my Brain thinks:
1.) Download an SPL (i.e Haykuro's "Death" SPL).
2.) Transfer to SD Card.
3.) Go into Recovery Mode (Amon_Ra-v1.5.2G)
4.) Scroll down to "Flash zip from sdcard".
5.) Flash Haykuro's "Death" SPL.
6.) Reboot system now and wait for it to enter Recovery Mode again.
8.) Check for new SPL, and you're done?
My Q's:
1.) Are my steps horribly wrong and could possibly brick my phone?
2.) No wiping required?
3.) If it gets stuck on Formatting CACHE for a long long long time..what to do?
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Some people can be d!cks in this forum. Your steps are right from all that I know. Changing your SPL is an at your own risk sort of venture, though. Haven't even had the balls to do it myself yet. But, first, do try to use the search function in these forums. Pretty new myself but have good luck finding the resources I need through search. Lastly, here are a couple of links that have helped my in regard to SPL research. The first is more general and worth reading through the comments. The second one specifically relates to you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570659&highlight=hboot
Good Luck. Hope it helps.
melterx12 said:
this is so frustrating ive googled this for almost an hour and I still cant find anything that explains exactly what a non perfect SPL does
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your google-fu is weak old man!!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec01
"Perfect" SPL Revisions (that prevent us hacking)
Currently HBOOT-1.33.0006 and HBOOT-1.33.0010 are the known 'Perfect SPL' revisions on the Sapphire handsets that we know of.
It is not possible to fastboot a ROM using these and you need to wait until someone has hacked it.
Edit (12 Aug 2009) : Now you can! Refer to How-To - Fix that perfected SPL - Root the T-Mobile myTouch 3G
So what is an SPL anyway? What does it do?
The SPL, or Second Program Loader, is essentially the Android bootloader. It's job is more than just loading the Android OS - it also offers several other boot options, including Recovery mode, Fastboot, and HBOOT modes, and ultimately it's the SPL that allows manipulation of the flash nand on your device. Part of the SPL's job is to ensure that the data flashed to the device is correct. Most of the current shipping SPLs (apart from the "Perfect SPL's) let us flash a complete ROM image, but don't let us flash a recovery rom or boot image as it checks the verification signature. Haykuro has modified the SPL's available to remove this check and this is what the Engineering SPL's available offer. As the SPL is so crucial to the handset though, you have to be very careful when flashing it as if it's updated incorrectly then you may be incapable of restoring it without specialised hardware and knowledge. You essentially have a very expensive brick
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looktall said:
your google-fu is weak old man!!
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Off topic, but thanks for posting. I wish more people were this patience and helpful. Kudos. Especially on the comedy inoffensive flame.
ive already seen that article, but it still does not explain what i want to know. I already know what an SPL does, but what does a Danger SPL do that my perfect SPL cant. is it worth flashing my SPL? which one should i flash and how? I cant find answers to these questions.
ok ive just foudn a bit of info saying that a danger SPL allows you to flash hero ROMS onto your mytouch.. but WTF??? Ive already flashed 2 different Hero ROMS onto my mytouch with no problems and I have a Perfect SPL. the only reason i didnt keep em was cause the device was slow! So wtf is going on with my phone? what am I missing here rofl
The "Danger" (or "Death") SPL is Haykuro's 1.33.2005 and there is only one. It changed the nand partitions sizes (or sth like that) on the G1 and that was why it is required to run Hero ROMs on it. It's not required to run Hero ROMs on the Magic though. What you're talking about are "Engineering" SPLs and the main difference with stock SPL is that, AFAIK, they bypass security checks to allow the flashing of unsigned update packages. Also, I think only Engineering and non-perfected SPLs allow the use of the fastboot protocol, the possibility to flash recovery images directly and the use of Nandroid to make backups.
To me it's all about unlocking everything but I could have lived with my stock non-perfected SPL as I could already do everything I wanted.
Signature checking is not necessary a bad thing. Perfected SPL is a different story as it really reduces you possibilities but I know there are workarounds.
swissp said:
The "Danger" (or "Death") SPL is Haykuro's 1.33.2005 and there is only one. It changed the nand partitions sizes (or sth like that) on the G1 and that was why it is required to run Hero ROMs on it. It's not required to run Hero ROMs on the Magic though. What you're talking about are "Engineering" SPLs and the main difference with stock SPL is that, AFAIK, they bypass security checks to allow the flashing of unsigned update packages. Also, I think only Engineering and non-perfected SPLs allow the use of the fastboot protocol, the possibility to flash recovery images directly and the use of Nandroid to make backups.
To me it's all about unlocking everything but I could have lived with my stock non-perfected SPL as I could already do everything I wanted.
Signature checking is not necessary a bad thing. Perfected SPL is a different story as it really reduces you possibilities but I know there are workarounds.
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Very informative. I was able to perform a Nandroid backup successfully while still on the "perfected SPL" so what's up with that? I guest I'll just stick with my perfected stock SPL for now, until I find a really great rom I want to flash but requires a non-perfected/eng spl.
BoomBoomPOW said:
Very informative. I was able to perform a Nandroid backup successfully while still on the "perfected SPL" so what's up with that? I guest I'll just stick with my perfected stock SPL for now, until I find a really great rom I want to flash but requires a non-perfected/eng spl.
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That's why I said "I think"... fortunately I've never had a perfected SPL and I can only repeat what others have been saying about it. Can you restore the backup too?
As you'd already noticed, information on the subject is quite vague but you are right anyway, the only reason to change SPL should be if the ROM you want to install requires it ;-)
So it seems that for the MT3G this SPL cannot be rooted. I was hoping to shake this up abit since no info has come up yet new for this and I know a couple of people who have this same SPL. I am willing to donate $20 to anyone who can find a way to root this. I know its not alot but its something.
Yes its on 1.6, tried various .nbh files and .zip files as listed in the forum with a gold card. Please dont flame, I just want to enjoy a rooted MT3G.
sorry, i'm not entirely familiar with this problem: what doesn't work - can you flash something like Engineering SPL1.33.2010 onto it? what happens when you try flashing a recovery via flashrec?
I started with "Hboot-1.33.0007(SAPP10000)" and now i have EngineeringSPL + Cyanogen, an other Splash than the vodafone one ... So why shouldn´t this be possible?
Follow this guide:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-root-a-donut-phone-android-1-6/
If you have Cupcake installed you can skip the first step
buggy1024 said:
I started with "Hboot-1.33.0007(SAPP10000)" and now i have EngineeringSPL + Cyanogen, an other Splash than the vodafone one ... So why shouldn´t this be possible?
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What SPL are you currently using?
Sorry for not putting all the info before...
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.2007 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
I have tried the following methods...
sappimg.zip + goldcard
Model ID incorrect!
Update Fail!
SAPPIMG.nbh
Main Version is older!
I cannot use flashrec.apk for obvious reasons, I always get an error since I'm on 1.6. Anyone got any better suggestions?
@skhell: Reboot for you "Engineering SPL 1.33.2005"
If you are on Android 1.6 - flash sappimg.nbh with Android 1.5 first. The one you need can be found in this forum. Search for the post with this title:
"sappimg.nbh for Vodafone PVT 32B Devices"
(sorry, I am not allowed to post any links apparently )
It's a Vodafone image with spl 1.33.0007 - so it's same as yours, and it will flash with no errors - no gold card needed.
Then use one click method as decribed in theunlockr.com or elsewhere.
Then you can flash "Engineering SPL 1.33.2005"
It worked very well with my HTC Magic from Vodafone Germany
PVT-32B HBOOT-1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
Radio - 2.22.19.26I
Good luck!
Arvycka said:
If you are on Android 1.6 - flash sappimg.nbh with Android 1.5 first. The one you need can be found in this forum. Search for the post with this title:
"sappimg.nbh for Vodafone PVT 32B Devices"
(sorry, I am not allowed to post any links apparently )
It's a Vodafone image with spl 1.33.0007 - so it's same as yours, and it will flash with no errors - no gold card needed.
Then use one click method as decribed in theunlockr.com or elsewhere.
Then you can flash "Engineering SPL 1.33.2005"
It worked very well with my HTC Magic from Vodafone Germany
PVT-32B HBOOT-1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
Radio - 2.22.19.26I
Good luck!
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I tried the one from this link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580631
And no luck, Model ID incorrect, update fail
Same Issue
I have the exact same hboot info on a replacement MT3G running factory 1.6 build DRC92.
From what I have read it is unrootable at this time. Others have said that we have to wait for a later build with a non-perfect SPL.
1.33.0007 is a perfect SPL, which normally isnt a problem, but combining that with the DRC92 build makes it troublesome.
windowsx said:
I have the exact same hboot info on a replacement MT3G running factory 1.6 build DRC92.
From what I have read it is unrootable at this time. Others have said that we have to wait for a later build with a non-perfect SPL.
1.33.0007 is a perfect SPL, which normally isnt a problem, but combining that with the DRC92 build makes it troublesome.
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he actually wrote that he has : HBOOT-1.33.2007
isnt that an eng spl ?
xepergod said:
I tried the one from this link...
And no luck, Model ID incorrect, update fail
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I am sorry it did not work for you. I was surprised it worked for me, despite everyone saying that there is no rooting solution for spl 1.33.0007 with DRC92. Maybe I was just lucky.
windowsx said:
1.33.0007 is a perfect SPL, which normally isnt a problem, but combining that with the DRC92 build makes it troublesome.
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Okay, i had that at begin:
Sapphire Unknown 32B Ship S-On G
Hboot-1.33.0007(SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
Radio-2.22.19.261
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
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and also Android 1.6 Stock (DRC92)
So why was it so easy for me too flash Cyanogen and more?
Downgraded with right nbh (sappimg.nbh), then installed flashrec.apk ... With that app i get a modified recovery-image installed and then i could flash rom/spl with modified recovery
Really easy
Kind of off topic, but I'm picking up a MT3G this weekend, and I didn't know there's such a thing as unrootable. Is this true? I thought they've all been figured out by now.
Supposedly there isnt such a thing as an unrootable MT3G but I sure am stuck.
I root'd my original MT3G but ended up with a replacement that I just cant get root on.
I think I am going to start a new thread. Apparently I overlooked that the thread was corrected to read 2007, not 0007.
In any case I get same errors, incorrect model id, main version older, etc.
People say they used sappimg.nbh to root the 1.33.0007 (SAPP30000) DRC92 but no one ever posts a link to the sappimg.nbh that they used. There are more than one out there, just in case people didnt notice that.
I have tried roughly 10 different .nbh's, made sure the md5 matched when applicable, tried each with and without the Goldcard, and even found the default recovery mode where I tried them again as .zip's (hold home + power until the exclamation then hit the home + power again).
I even did a hard reset and tried again. Nothing...
I do have the sdk, adb and fastboot working. Able to connect via usb, issue some commands, and list the devices. Try to push an install and get remote not allowed.
I am getting used to no-root but I dont like it. I want my old rootable phone back...
Im in the same boat as you are..
Cant seem to root my 1.33.0007/DCR92. I have tried about everything in this forum..
Hopefully something will hit soon.
can someone clarify a way to break this spl or root correctly
kaiya215 said:
can someone clarify a way to break this spl or root correctly
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I used the instructions from the cyanogen wiki. they worked perfectly. i used the files from there as well.
Infinite76 said:
I used the instructions from the cyanogen wiki. they worked perfectly. i used the files from there as well.
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tried no dice....
buggy1024 said:
Okay, i had that at begin:
and also Android 1.6 Stock (DRC92)
So why was it so easy for me too flash Cyanogen and more?
Downgraded with right nbh (sappimg.nbh), then installed flashrec.apk ... With that app i get a modified recovery-image installed and then i could flash rom/spl with modified recovery
Really easy
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How about posting a link to the sappimg.nbh you used?
So my wife just upgraded her phone and i was left with a stock MyTouch 3g with 3.5mm headphone jack and I thought I would expand my Android knowledge base and see what I could do with it. I am not knew to Android and I have a Samsung Vibrant that I can pretty much do whatever I want with. The Galaxy line is extremely easy compared to this device.
So I did my fair share or reading and research and was able to root the phone with Universal Androot and installed busybox via titanium backup. I downloaded ROM manager from the market and flashed clockwork recovery. I used recovery to installl CM 5.0.8 DS and once it reboots in wont load past the mytouch splash.
This is what I started with:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009, 22:33:27
And this is what it reads now:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Jun 2 2009, 17:27:03
I read that Binary said that it is really a 32B not an A so to stick with the B ROMs. I can also access fastboot and recovery.
The easy part with the Vibrant is that if I screw up the phone you can just simply Odin back to stock and start over, but the mytouch is a little more complex than that. So basically I want to get back to stock and start over. There are so many threads and links that say user friendly but I didn't find it quite user friendly. I must just be spoiled with the Galaxy.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. It's not a rush or it's not my daily driver. Just a toy phone now to learn on.
Thanks!
mod edit because of inaccurate information.
So you are saying if I just follow the normal root guide for the fender 1.2 that I should be good?
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CBATESY said:
usually any of the 3.5mm jack phones are 32a devices. 32b is the original mt3g. ones with the jack in the top is a mt3g 1.2 or 32a. If you have recovery working you can use that to restore back to factory or installed sapping.img
here something to help you out .
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Magic
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NO! Damn it! Listen to me everybody! The 1.2 device (Fender, etc) are a 32A/32B hybrid. The ONLY thing that makes this phone ANY different than the regular 23B MyTouch devices is the additional ram. That's it! You CANNOT fit a 32A ROM on the device because it lacks the internal storage. Even if you COULD the kernel for that rom would require a 32A radio. You cannot use a 32A radio because the 1.33.0013 32A s-ON spl requires the 32B radio. And it requires a 32B radio else it will brick. The 1.33.0013 is the S-ON stock SPL that the phone requires to use the memory map. If you try the Engineering SPL (1.33.2010 32B S-ON) the phone might boot, but you will not have touch screen or the use of the headphone jack because of the different drivers and memory map. When you flash the Engineering SPL it will read 32B because that is what is needed to flash the custom recovery and roms. However your device will not work properly because it's a 32A/32B hybrid. You need the 32A stock firmware (1.33.0013 S-ON) for the phone to operate. You also need the appropriate 32B radio and rom as well.
I have the phone and I've had it since it's release. I started off by making custom roms for it and ports before roms were using VoxLuna's driver patch. Trust me when I say that I know a little about this damn phone!
You know what... to hell with it. Do whatever you want. Don't be sending me private messages begging for help when you brick your device because you think it's a 32A.
custom ported rom #1
custom ported rom #2
custom ported rom #3
custom rom #1
They all require 1.33.0013 S-ON with 32B radio.
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SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP31000)
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The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
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NO! Damn it! Listen to me everybody! The 1.2 device (Fender, etc) are a 32A/32B hybrid. The ONLY thing that makes this phone ANY different than the regular 23B MyTouch devices is the additional ram. That's it! You CANNOT fit a 32A ROM on the device because it lacks the internal storage. Even if you COULD the kernel for that rom would require a 32A radio. You cannot use a 32A radio because the 1.33.0013 32A s-ON spl requires the 32B radio. And it requires a 32B radio else it will brick. The 1.33.0013 is the S-ON stock SPL that the phone requires to use the memory map. If you try the Engineering SPL (1.33.2010 32B S-ON) the phone might boot, but you will not have touch screen or the use of the headphone jack because of the different drivers and memory map. When you flash the Engineering SPL it will read 32B because that is what is needed to flash the custom recovery and roms. However your device will not work properly because it's a 32A/32B hybrid. You need the 32A stock firmware (1.33.0013 S-ON) for the phone to operate. You also need the appropriate 32B radio and rom as well.
I have the phone and I've had it since it's release. I started off by making custom roms for it and ports before roms were using VoxLuna's driver patch. Trust me when I say that I know a little about this damn phone!
You know what... to hell with it. Do whatever you want. Don't be sending me private messages begging for help when you brick your device because you think it's a 32A.
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And I thought the Vibrant forums were hostile. I am glad that you have had your phone for so long and I am quite sure you know what you are talking about. Like I stated, this phone is just sitting around the house collecting dust and thought I would mess with it. If I brick it... great. If I make it the fastest MyTouch it can be... great.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you and all the other developers and contributors do for random users like myself, but give a guy a break. You have to admit that this phone is a little dated and it's like knowing how to run Windows Vista and 7 then going back to do the same things on a Commadore.
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The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
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Exactly, all he needs is a custom G recovery (which he should have) and then flash the 1.33.0013 stock spl BACK on. Afterwards, he can flash any 32B rom he wants and it should work as long as it's later than CM-4.2.15.
DonJuan692006 said:
The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
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Thank you for the non-violent approach. I know how it is when you have a new guy just blowing his phone up and he goes screaming for help. Not what I was trying to do. Just tinkering with a new device to get some more know-how under the belt.
Much appreciated, Don!
I will let you know what I can get accomplished with your advice.
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And I thought the Vibrant forums were hostile. I am glad that you have had your phone for so long and I am quite sure you know what you are talking about. Like I stated, this phone is just sitting around the house collecting dust and thought I would mess with it. If I brick it... great. If I make it the fastest MyTouch it can be... great.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you and all the other developers and contributors do for random users like myself, but give a guy a break. You have to admit that this phone is a little dated and it's like knowing how to run Windows Vista and 7 then going back to do the same things on a Commadore.
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He wasn't fussing at you, he was getting at the other guy for feeding you false information.
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My apologies, Binary. Following forums over time you tend to see so much hostility over pretty much nothing. It's a learning experience. Just as I had to learn my other phone, some things the hard way, I will be able to steer people in the right direction and help others after I get this one down.
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And I thought the Vibrant forums were hostile. I am glad that you have had your phone for so long and I am quite sure you know what you are talking about. Like I stated, this phone is just sitting around the house collecting dust and thought I would mess with it. If I brick it... great. If I make it the fastest MyTouch it can be... great.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you and all the other developers and contributors do for random users like myself, but give a guy a break. You have to admit that this phone is a little dated and it's like knowing how to run Windows Vista and 7 then going back to do the same things on a Commadore.
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I'm not trying to be hostile but all of the information is available here in the forums. The developers, senior members and moderators like myself have spent HUNDREDS OF HOURS making sure it can be referenced one way or another. They are in stickies and even in MY SIGNATURE. The only other thing we can do for you is do it ourselves! Yet even with a clean and clear explaination this still comes up. We even get some people that post threads saying that they bricked their phones because they thought for sure it was a 32A and they try to hold me responsible. I will be happy to forward some hateful e-mails to you that I get at least 2 or 3 times a week average because people couldn't find the information... yet... if they followed rule #1 of the forums... they wouldn't have the problem.
Look... at least you got the right information and avoided bricking your phone. But I really hate repeating myself over and over again with the same information so I need to be tougher to get my point across otherwise other members will likely use the wrong information and end up breaking their phones... which I will not be held liable for!
DonJuan692006 said:
He wasn't fussing at you, he was getting at the other guy for feeding you false information.
Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk
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Right on Don. I'm not angry at you OffDutyNinja808 however the other guy (CBATESY) should be warned that I could give him an infraction for giving out bad information.
Binary100100 said:
Right on Don. I'm not angry at you OffDutyNinja808 however the other guy (CBATESY) should be warned that I could give him an infraction for giving out bad information.
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On another note, Don, I made a new sticky thread just for this issue.
Feel free to add your wisdom to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893004
Okay... so I followed Don's instructions and the phone now says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23. 02
I tried flashing the same CM and it gets past the mytouch splash but doesn't go past the next loading X screen.
From what you guys said everything is looking right. Any thing look out of ordinary or sound crazy from what i'm saying?
Thanks again!
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offdutyninja808 said:
Okay... so I followed Don's instructions and the phone now says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23. 02
I tried flashing the same CM and it gets past the mytouch splash but doesn't go past the next loading X screen.
From what you guys said everything is looking right. Any thing look out of ordinary or sound crazy from what i'm saying?
Thanks again!
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Loading X screen?
What rom are you trying to install?
What kernel?
And now i'm in like tube socks! I just woke up and tried it again and it booted right up.
Binary, it was the same CM 5.0.8-DS. As far as the kernel goes, I didn't flash any separate. The X boot screen I mentioned is the Nexus One load screen (I believe).
The only thing that I did differently this morning was wipe/factory reset, then davlik.
Okay... so from my understanding now:
I have to have a perfected SPL, not an engineering SPL.
I have to use the custom (AMAN RA) recovery and never use ClockworkMod.
Ensure that any other roms I want are 32b.
Now as far as the radio goes, is it best to stay with the radio it came with?
Again, thanks for the advice!
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DonJuan692006 said:
The problem. You forgot to mention that you also flashed a non-perfected SPL at some point before flashing CM 5.0.8. You need to get that fixed. Luckily you can fix it without a goldcard since you've already got S-OFF.
Download these:
hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only
Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
Go to this URL and follow the steps to get ADB setup if you don't already have it. Then go here and follow steps 7, 8, and 9. In step 7, you should only need to run:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (the 0 at the end of this line is a zero not an oh).
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that just reflash CM 5.0.8, although I'm using CM 6.1 and it's just as good, but with the perks of Android 2.2. I would suggest reading through that thread I linked to get more familiarity.
Lastly, I will warn you that this isn't the easiest way to get your phone fixed, but this is the way that I learned about my phone, so it should help you out in that aspect. I'm sure mumilover or someone else may come along with a simpler solution.
If you have any problems, let us know here.
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Don, two things...
1. I searched through the ROM bible and didn't find any place to download 6.1.
2. When I try to download the Google Apps from the page you sent me the link to yesterday, it asks for a user name and password. I have 5.0.8 up and running, but with no market and things like that.
Thanks!
Okay... I am now running FroyoRedux-1.9.5 with the Galaxy theme. Everything is smooth as butter.
I fixed the links in the post I pointed you to and updated them to what you news for CM 6.1
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offdutyninja808 said:
And now i'm in like tube socks! I just woke up and tried it again and it booted right up.
Binary, it was the same CM 5.0.8-DS. As far as the kernel goes, I didn't flash any separate. The X boot screen I mentioned is the Nexus One load screen (I believe).
The only thing that I did differently this morning was wipe/factory reset, then davlik.
Okay... so from my understanding now:
I have to use the custom (AMAN RA) recovery and never use ClockworkMod.
Now as far as the radio goes, is it best to stay with the radio it came with?
Again, thanks for the advice!
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You can use clockwork. I use it without any problems. Some people like AmonRa better though. If you run CM6 there have been issues about people not being able to flash the recovery for some reason. Just keep trying and it will stick eventually. Just make sure that you flash the one for MyTouch/Ion devices.
Radio - keep the one that your using.
Roms - 32B ONLY
Hi,
I have HTC Magic Vodafone UK version (32b) . A month ago I wanted to install a ROM which required a higher version of radio, and I bricked it
I had it repaired in a shop, but it seems that the guys put the wrong radio. This is what I get in fastboot:
Now I have 3.22 radio (which is only for Magic 32a). The problem now is that I cannot install 32b ROMs because of the radio, and 32a ROMs are also not working (or maybe I am doing sth wrong). The only ROM which is working currently for me is VOdafone 2.2.1 32a.
So, my question is: which ROMs should I be installing now - 32a or 32b?? Should I maybe go again with radio change, and go back to the old one (which is a risky process)
Thanks!
Thread moved to General.
Please pay attention where you post your threads next time.
Sorry, will pay attention in the future
The good thing is, that you have eng spl..
So you have total control over the device,,,
You can flash anything you want..
Just flash a different radio and you should be set :0)
Hey mumilover,
Thanks for the reply.
The thing is that I've already bricked it once when tried to change the radio, so now I'm afraid to do it again and thus trying to find some alternative
Download my fastboot commander from my signature.
Download this radio: https://rapidshare.com/files/455782324/2.22.19.26I.img
Flash it.
Download this recovery: http://rapidshare.com/files/387932919/recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.7.0G.img
Flash it.
Reboot into recovery and flash whatever rom you like :0)
Good luck.
When I was reading about flashing radios, I remembered pretty long and complicated procedure (downgrade android, wipe, etc.) Is it with your fastboot commander that easy???
I got more than 5000+ users....
:0)
mumilover said:
I got more than 5000+ users....
:0)
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OK, I'll give it a try...
Hey, I have just given it a try, but it won't flash the radio. I get the Fastboot connection (it says "Fastboot USB" on the phone screen), but in your app it says that "PRINT OF DEVICE INFO FAILURE - PLEASE CHECK YOUR CONNECTION.
No fastboot device connected."
Any idea what the problem might be?
By the way, I have been using regular fastboot for quite some time, and it was always working flawlessly with my phone.
Seems like its the connection to me, even with s-on on my phone it I still get the device info print off
Which OS do you use?
If normal fastboot commands works, then this tool SHOULD work :0)
mumilover said:
Which OS do you use?
If normal fastboot commands works, then this tool SHOULD work :0)
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I am using Windows XP (32 bit), and I have used regular fastboot at least 10 times on it to install different roms and stuff...
OK, I'll try again...
Aaaand, I tried again and it's not working again... same message...
mumilover said:
The good thing is, that you have eng spl..
So you have total control over the device,,,
You can flash anything you want..
Just flash a different radio and you should be set :0)
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Hi!
Thanx God I've found the proper topic )
Unfortunately phone that seems to be 32b based was bricked today.
Hboot view looked the same as in the first post:
SAPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP*****)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009, 17:27:03
I adviced owner to flash 2708 radio and SPL 1.33.0013d from recovery.
After flashing of radio phone became a brick...
Hope guy will manage to unbrick it, but the question is what to do further.
Is it safety to flash radio/spl using your soft of it would be better to use fastboot method described here (I mean Revert to 32B Radio)?
And is radio 2.22.19.26I what we really need?
Which SPL should be flashed after to escape bricking?
Keep the spl...
flash the 2.22.19.26I radio and G recovery from my tool or fastboot.
Then you should be all ok...
mumilover said:
Keep the spl...
flash the 2.22.19.26I radio and G recovery from my tool or fastboot.
Then you should be all ok...
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Ok, I see. Do you think engineering 1.33.0010 should remain untouched?
But how to flash new 1.33.0013d which is required for many roms with appropriate kernels?
P. S. I've tried your tool on another computer, and still can't get a connection to my HTC Magic ((
It finally worked!!!
Well, nobody told me that I needed to install this HTC Sync software...
OK, so I finally installed 2.22.19 radio, but for this ROM I need 2.22.23 and Death SPL. Is it safe to install those using your tool???
Again, thanks for your time!