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Anyone else having horrible 3g download speeds?

Recently i have been getting download speeds of about 13-70kb/s. My upload is fine averaging 800kb/s. This all is really odd since i live in a city and usually get around 1500kb down. I have the 60668 prl and the most recent radio. Im running baked snacks with his 2nd fps fix kernel. I dont see where the problem could be. Please help me out thanks

my old Touch Pro brick would average 120KB/s on 3G (STABLE), and now my Evo is barely doing 5KB/s to 10KB/s (VERY UNSTABLE). those 5 to 10 were what I was getting with 1x with Touch Pro. conslusion = Evo has no EVDO? lol, i know it does but the numbers do make you think. i mean, 5KB/s is friggin 1990's DIAL-UP!

There is something jacked with the Evo radios...
I had Sprint reactivate my Touch Pro 2 and using the exact same Home Agent I got 1600kbps last night on the exact same tower that my Evo got 700 off of.
I have never seen my Evo pass 1Mbps... it hits 950 tops. My Touch Pro 2 will pull up to 2.4 - I've seen it myself.
Oh and the upload on the TP2 was 380 compared to 190 on my Evo.
Something is definitely up...

At first I used to get good speeds... and now ive tried 2 dif radios and like you said, its ****ing dialup!! i tried to look in my dialer codes to change some stuff around but they wouldnt even work. this suuucks. I'm in the middle of the sf bay area which needs to get 4g soon and 3g should be fixed... I don't understand haha

when doing wired tethering on Touch Pro, i used the HTC USB Modem driver and simply set up a dialup connection in windows through that modem to #777. one trick i found that maximized the speeds was setting maximum bps to 921600bps (900Kbps) in modem configuration. this way i was pulling very stable 110KB/s downloads with very small latencies...
is there such thing for Android that would allow me to use HTC as a modem? not internet sharing, usb nic, but usb MODEM?

I did some tething tests last night, and started out with real downloads at 60k a second. Over time going up to near 300 and stabalizing around 150 when i stopped.

frifox said:
when doing wired tethering on Touch Pro, i used the HTC USB Modem driver and simply set up a dialup connection in windows through that modem to #777. one trick i found that maximized the speeds was setting maximum bps to 921600bps (900Kbps) in modem configuration. this way i was pulling very stable 110KB/s downloads with very small latencies...
is there such thing for Android that would allow me to use HTC as a modem? not internet sharing, usb nic, but usb MODEM?
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I used to get 150KB/sec or more with Internet Sharing...

From what I've heard/read, it's not the radio itself, but it seems to have to do with the PRI (note: not PRL)... most fully rooted phones end up with 1.34 instead of 1.40 and as of yet no one seems to know how to get it back to 1.40 (other than flashing w/ an official RUU, which un-roots you, and from what I've seen even that doesn't always work)... I personally have not seen any difference in my 3G speeds in my area... my guess is, that just like a PRL, your performance will differ based on your coverage area...

abrigham said:
From what I've heard/read, it's not the radio itself, but it seems to have to do with the PRI (note: not PRL)... most fully rooted phones end up with 1.34 instead of 1.40 and as of yet no one seems to know how to get it back to 1.40 (other than flashing w/ an official RUU, which un-roots you, and from what I've seen even that doesn't always work)... I personally have not seen any difference in my 3G speeds in my area... my guess is, that just like a PRL, your performance will differ based on your coverage area...
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I have a good coverage area... yeah i have 1.34... :/
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abrigham said:
From what I've heard/read, it's not the radio itself, but it seems to have to do with the PRI (note: not PRL)... most fully rooted phones end up with 1.34 instead of 1.40 and as of yet no one seems to know how to get it back to 1.40 (other than flashing w/ an official RUU, which un-roots you, and from what I've seen even that doesn't always work)... I personally have not seen any difference in my 3G speeds in my area... my guess is, that just like a PRL, your performance will differ based on your coverage area...
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ANYONE that went to the engineering build (read: NAND unlocked) is stuck on the 1.34 PRI until it gets updated or someone patches it somehow.
I'm still in the "it doesn't make a difference and this is all placebo" camp though.

I'm consistently getting between 1.5-2.2mb download speeds with 3g and I'm fully rooted.
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Vibrant clocking 10MB Upload/4MB Download on 3G using pdanet !!!!!!!!!

Folks, Not sure what to make it. I tried doing couple of speed tests with speakeasy.net tethering my laptop with samsung vibrant and I see consistently 10mb/sec download and 4mb/sec upload !!!!!. Im testing this in MY metro area
Is something wrong ??. Is speakeasy giving wrong info ??. Can someone in NY area check tethering speed ??. Looks like speak easy is downloading a 10mb file for test. What am I missing. i thought HSPA is max 7.2mb/sec theoretical.

wrong forum... try speedtest app

Thanks for crapping up the Dev forums

thejewhunter said:
Thanks for crapping up the Dev forums
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"thejewhunter"? Really? I'm all for freedom of speech, but that's damn near a threat.
I really hope that means your a Jew that enjoys tracking and killing animals, otherwise you're a f*cking scumbag.
That is all.

its called HSPA+ i get 5mb down here in ftl u must be close or next to a antenna

I agree, get your anti semitism outta here....im personally insulted by a user using "jew hunter" as a user name. Your broadcasting your lack of intelligence by publicly expressing such views. Hope someone flames you or you get banned, a$$........
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Settle down folks ... it's just a reference to a character in Inglourious Basterds. I'm not saying it's "appropriate" ... I'm just saying it wasn't as well thought out as you may have previously imagined. You're giving this user way too much credit.
"Speaking" of matters of intelligence, or lack thereof ... can we PLEASE differentiate between YOU'RE and YOUR? PLEASE? I really want to read people's posts but my brain stumbles upon these now all too familiar gems and refuses to finish reading.

Using swype on a virtual kb on the go, your is going to have to do....rest assured, I know the difference.
Although I know where the name came from, its completely out of context and entirely unnecessary. Choosing such a name further reinforces the lack of intelligence.
Same thing as using the N word as a user name, even though its used casually in some cases. Still insulting and unacceptable
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OK. Can someone test and let me know ??

dcchristopher said:
"Speaking" of matters of intelligence, or lack thereof ... can we PLEASE differentiate between YOU'RE and YOUR? PLEASE? I really want to read people's posts but my brain stumbles upon these now all too familiar gems and refuses to finish reading.
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+1,000,000
"you're" is in swype's dictionary - btdubs - contractions have rules and technically are not grammatically correct anymore, sorry.
Do not be lazy

I thought the vibrant was limited to 7.2
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I'm constantly hunting for jews to procreate with, my jewish mother wouldn't have it any other way LOL
maybe he is looking for an accountant or a lawyer? or maybe a recommendation for where to buy cheap electronics? or does he love the taste of kosher food? or perhaps he wants to kill all us jews for being so jewish? he is probably working for jews for jesus.....

How did the speed test become jew test?
btw, if that speed you are getting is true... WOW!

Pretty sure no Tmobile phone can get 10 meg download speeds even if on hspa+. I live in hspa+ and max my vibrant has gotten is 6meg down. Ive used the speedtest.net app and also the speedtest.net website while tethering also.

It amazes me the rudeness of this forum, where more bandwidth is spent on complaining about the bandwidth spent by so called stupid questions than on actually providing answers or helping people.
Anyway, back to topic. Even though t-mobile has enabled 21 mbps burst speeds on selected markets, a far as I'm concerned, the vibrant is limited by hardware to 7.2 or so. I think the upcoming G2 will be the first 21 mbps device on the market.
Speed tests are not very accurate in all cases. I remember when I had my touch pro 2 windows mobile device I would impress people by showing them it was able to download up to 12 mbps using a site called mobile speed test dot com. You simply repeated the test many times and progressively selected a bigger file size until you got those fabulous speeds.
I've found speed test app to be quite reliable, but if it shows speeds greater than 7 mbps, I wouldn't trust it.
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Correct, the G2 will be the first hpsa+ phone but even then Im hearing its only going to be able to do 14.4mbps max not the full 21mbps. Still faster than any phone on any carrier so not too shabby. Just not full 21mbps.....yet!!!

nopple123 said:
Folks, Not sure what to make it. I tried doing couple of speed tests with speakeasy.net tethering my laptop with samsung vibrant and I see consistently 10mb/sec download and 4mb/sec upload !!!!!. Im testing this in MY metro area
Is something wrong ??. Is speakeasy giving wrong info ??. Can someone in NY area check tethering speed ??. Looks like speak easy is downloading a 10mb file for test. What am I missing. i thought HSPA is max 7.2mb/sec theoretical.
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lolcopter said:
I thought the vibrant was limited to 7.2
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App CHEA
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You're probably getting some kind of false loopback or something.
use speedtest.net or dslreports.net speed tests and post your results.
Also, yes, the Vibrant is hardware limited to 7.2mbps.

It's possible the OP had WiFi enabled....

Freedomcaller said:
I'm constantly hunting for jews to procreate with, my jewish mother wouldn't have it any other way LOL
maybe he is looking for an accountant or a lawyer? or maybe a recommendation for where to buy cheap electronics? or does he love the taste of kosher food? or perhaps he wants to kill all us jews for being so jewish? he is probably working for jews for jesus.....
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Aaah, a perfect example of how true racism is quiet and subtle and not ostensibly offensive, like in the case of TJH. Bravo, FreedomCaller!
elkavayo said:
It amazes me the rudeness of this forum, where more bandwidth is spent on complaining about the bandwidth spent by so called stupid questions than on actually providing answers or helping people.
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Come on, now ... this post is about as deserving of helpful feedback as "I woke up this morning with a burning itch in the nether-regions." As others have noted, this could have been the result of WiFi being turned on or an artifact due to loop-back. The onus is on the OP to provide meaningful evidence which would rule out user error. We can't all break out our emergency kits every time someone thinks they're having a heart-attack ... "no, wait, it was just gas."
zimphishmonger said:
Using swype on a virtual kb on the go, your is going to have to do....rest assured, I know the difference.
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No worries, zimphishmonger, I totally understand ... I've been the victim of swype's (mis)prediction often enough ... I'm just saying, do not judge lest ye be judged. We all have our own irksome triggers. When dealing with TJH being provocative online (lest I drop the T-word), you have to live and let live. Also, you ought to be consistent and not play favorites ... why no outrage against AJFTL? North Koreans would not appreciate people making fun of the Dear Leader.

speed fun

hi everyone
this is my bad news
i just got my nexus s
and i still own my galaxy s
now same phone provider(optus australia) same Apn setting this is speed result?
Galaxy S: 4.92 download
1.12 uploading
Nexus S: 2.21 download
1.05 uploading
what also i can see i got H on my Galaxy but only 3g on my Nexux s
well for sure this make the different i believe but why for the same Apn tested in the same place??
now we have to fing the answare
Mr Gee

The answer is that Google don't seem to like the H icon and therefore disables it. The phone still works fine on HSPA, it just doesn't display it.

i can understand
but the different in speed?

gerardo66 said:
i can understand
but the different in speed?
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Have you done multiple tests against multiple servers at different times of the day and averaged the results?
I can truly see a difference of 50% or more from one test to another sometimes, even when ran just a few minutes apart. Network traffic is just funny that way.
The other thing you might want to do to validate your comparisons is get the Antennas app from the Market (it's free) and make sure both phones are actually connecting to the same tower. They should be, but if you're in an overlapping tower area, they might not be due to load balancing by the network.

i will try
so definitely is not H on nexus S?

gerardo66 said:
i will try
so definitely is not H on nexus S?
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You will never see an H indicator on the Nexus S with the current stock firmwares. You'd need to flash a modded ROM or modify your frameworks file yourself to get it.
The phone is definitely capable of H speeds, though.

Same here in Florida. Vibrant gets 5 or 6 mbps down and 1.6 up while NS gets a max of 2 or 3 down and 900 k up
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Thank elkavayo
you confirm my felling
so now what is this problem? how we solve?

elkavayo said:
Same here in Florida. Vibrant gets 5 or 6 mbps down and 1.6 up while NS gets a max of 2 or 3 down and 900 k up
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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gerardo66 said:
Thank elkavayo
you confirm my felling
so now what is this problem? how we solve?
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Have you guys called T-Mo customer service and asked them to look into the problem relative to your individual phone?
They'll probably tell you to try a new SIM card (if you're using the one you had on an older device).
The phone is capable of faster speeds than you're seeing. It should get comparable to a Vibrant.

my sim i three week old
i will try to swap with sim from gs and test again
to be continued

I'm going to start throatpunching people who ask this question.
Just because you don't see an "H" in the framework, doesn't mean you're not connecting to the HSDPA.
Start downloading something then type in *#*4636#*#* in the dialer. Look at "Phone Info" and watch the "Network Type." You'll notice a few seconds after it starts downloading, it'll switch from UMTS(3G) to HSDPA(also 3G).

Hi Unremarked
have you try the code your self?
i try and give me wrong code!!

gerardo66 said:
Hi Unremarked
have you try the code your self?
i try and give me wrong code!!
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*#*#4636#*#*
Typed too fast, my fault.

Or you can find the same info in Settings > About > Status

I love my vibrant, so fast so reliable so quick...to me nexus s is a downgrade

I have both the SNS and the SGS
SGS is on Fido
SNS on Wind
both gets a top speed down speed of 2800+ Mbps
and aprox 800+ Mbps up stream
that just gives you an idea that the SNS works properly, it might simply be the capacity load of the cell tower you were connected to

distortedloop said:
Have you guys called T-Mo customer service and asked them to look into the problem relative to your individual phone?
They'll probably tell you to try a new SIM card (if you're using the one you had on an older device).
The phone is capable of faster speeds than you're seeing. It should get comparable to a Vibrant.
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Nothing wrong with the phones or SIM. Has to do with the modem. Flashing different modems on the vibrant have the same effect. Some modems are more aggressive, but use more battery. Nexus One stock gets same download speed as nexus S. I'm sure most NS and Vibrant will perform the same in the same geographical area.
BTW, you don't get the same download speeds everywhere. At home I get 2mbps but at work, about noon, I get close to 6 (with the vibrant) and close to 3 with NS.
In any case, 2mbps is pretty good. I won't go and exchange my phone because of that. I have learned to enjoy my NS as opposed to look for any possible thing that makes it not perfect in the eyes of "my friends"

zc4life said:
I love my vibrant, so fast so reliable so quick...to me nexus s is a downgrade
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cool.. if you love it so much, why are you on the Nexus S forum trying to discourage other people about the phone? Not trying to be rude or anything but posts saying Nexus S is a downgrade compared to X phone is just really annoying.

Heh
zephiK said:
cool.. if you love it so much, why are you on the Nexus S forum trying to discourage other people about the phone? Not trying to be rude or anything but posts saying Nexus S is a downgrade compared to X phone is just really annoying.
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Im not trying to be rude but it is what it is...

AllGamer said:
I have both the SNS and the SGS
SGS is on Fido
SNS on Wind
both gets a top speed down speed of 2800+ Mbps
and aprox 800+ Mbps up stream
that just gives you an idea that the SNS works properly, it might simply be the capacity load of the cell tower you were connected to
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you do mean Kbps right?
2800 Mbps would be 933.33 MBps and that's <b><u>CRAZY</u></b> fast lol

3G Speed Testing Results and Information [GB results posted]

Hi Folks, I looked around for a thread like this and didn't find one, but if there's one out there let me know and please send me a link!
I would much appreciate it if you folks out there could do a few tests and contribute to this thread. Use the Speedtest.net app and do 5 runs, take an average, and let me know what rom, modem, location, and pertinent addons and settings you have.
I am on a stock rom, rooted with the Revolted Kernel.
I did some testing with 3G speeds just to see if anything I could do would change the abysmal speeds we get here in the Greenville, SC area. I did 5 consecutive Speedtest.net app runs for each test, and averaged the results, noting the time and other details. Background data was off on all tests, and signal strength stayed very stable around -80db. I kept the phone in the same location on the desk for each test. The results are as follows (average values are in the order of ping, download, upload):
Test 1. No reboot, no adds, EC05 Server: Toledo OH
9:55 AM
209,523,528
Test 2. Reboot, no adds, EC05 Server: Toledo OH
10:00 AM
231,381.6,413.2
Test 3. Reboot, no adds, Fresh EC05 odin with EFS Clear Server: Augusta, GA
10:15 AM
184,414.6,533.4
Test 4. Reboot, Supercharger V6 version 8, EC05 Server: Atlanta, GA
10:52 AM
205.8,404.2,605
Test 5. Reboot, SCV6, 3G Turbocharger3 update 11 setting 1 (fast). EC05 Server:Ringgold, GA
11:12
322.4,527,605.6
Test 6 Reboot, SCV6, 3G T3 update 11 setting 3 (fastest) EC05 Server: Atl, GA
11:24
196.8,319,489
Summary? They were all basically the same, nothing I was able to do had any significant effect of the speeds in a positive or negative manner. This is in no way conclusive, but is kindof interesting. I think the story here is that I am at what the network is capable of. If this is true, this is pretty sorry 3G speeds.
I am going to try different modems at some point, and post those results here as well. If you would like to see my data sheet, I have it in Excel, PM me and I'll send it to you
*Modem and GB test results in Post 2!*

Ok, here are my preliminary tests with the modems. Supercharger V6, 3G turbocharger level 3, stock rom, rooted, revolted kernel, basically same as above. Signal stable for all tests around -76 to -80db.
EC05; Retest for control; Time 13:24; Server Augusta, GA
288.4,221.4,456
EH17; Time 13:50; Server Atlanta, GA
272.4,164,342.2
EG22; Time 14:20; Server Bixby, OK
231.6,280.4,437
Gingerbread EH17 With EH17 Modem Tests
Test 1: No addons, very stock GB, Background Data off. Did 10 runs instead of 5, was getting very inconsistent results. 5 results had DL's less than 100, one as low as 35, and one run DL was 544. Confusing. Upload was relatively consistent.
311,162.6,316.7

It's been done before,

Shinydude100 said:
It's been done before,
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Excellent! Is there a link so that I can read others results and contribute mine? Reviewing others results is really the purpose of my post, so that would be very helpful.

Shinydude100 said:
It's been done before,
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Cool story bro.
Then since this one is already made might as well contribute.
I'll add mine here later, heads up though they're horrible.
Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g

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Excellent! Is there a link so that I can read others results and contribute mine? Reviewing others results is really the purpose of my post, so that would be very helpful.
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Oh this thread's fine, it's deeply drowned by now, but it had speed-tests of every modem.

Shinydude100 said:
Oh this thread's fine, it's deeply drowned by now, but it had speed-tests of every modem.
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I have done some testing of the modems in the past, and found almost no difference for them for my location either, similar speeds and lack of variance to the results for the tweaks posted above. I think at least for some of us (myself included) the network just won't do any more than a certain amount. I can only postulate that if that is the case, it doesnt matter what kind of modem, tweaks, rom, etc you have. I am pretty jealous of those folks who tried modem a b or c and significantly increased their 3g speeds (and would be jazzed to actually see that data from speedtest trial runs). I think for my location, what you see up there is what I got, reguardless. That being said, look for results for modems sometime soon.
I'm just interested in seeing some actual results from different locations using the same testing method. I know that my format isn't truly scientifically sound, but I don't want to, nor would I dream of asking anyone else to, do 100 trials of each of those for each and somehow elaborately control every other possible variable, but by controlling the variables the best we can, it will produce relatively reasonable results.

Running cm7 I found my unturbocharged 3g settings were best, always over 1mbps for download
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Coming from someone who got 50 kbps (yeah, that's right, friggin dial-up) for the past year.....
You learn to appreciate above 600kbps. Recently the towers in my area were upgraded
My 3G speed test just got 1609 kbps.

jnadke said:
Coming from someone who got 50 kbps (yeah, that's right, friggin dial-up) for the past year.....
You learn to appreciate above 600kbps. Recently the towers in my area were upgraded
My 3G speed test just got 1609 kbps.
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Thanks for the info!
Was that a single test or a run of five? What rom/kernel/tweaks are you using, if any?

popssracer said:
Thanks for the info!
Was that a single test or a run of five? What rom/kernel/tweaks are you using, if any?
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I'm using Hurricane EH17, with the GPS Fix and msacik's kernel to fix reboots. Also using the EH17 modem with an EFS Clear.
If anything, data generally worked smoother in CM7, or at least SpeedTest indicated as such.
I just tested again and got:
1132/499 130ms ping
1615/454 125ms ping
1576/331 125ms ping
3G here. No 4G.

Put EH17 GB on my phone for the first time yesterday, with the EH17 modem. Data speeds seem to have taken a hit. Going to experiment with settings and post test results here in a bit.

[Q] Speed slow Torrents (not illegal) fast.

So Normal browsing and downloads i get roughly 6kb/s downloading. But When I am downloading something that is used as a torrent (think of a Ubuntu file) i can get up to a constant of 40-80 kb/s.
I found this a little odd to be honest. If anyone can shed light as to why I can download via a p2p network at roughly ten times the speed i normally get would be awesome.
all speed test apps say I get roughly 80kbps or less which would go against me downloading via a torrent at 40-80 KB/s. The app is not reporting a false speed either because there is a few minute to half hour difference if not more when i download things via that and then test it on something else. I tried many different servers to see if they were the clogg and it is all the same speed at roughly 6KB/s but with any torrented file I get at least 40 KB/S..
When I refer to torrent I refer to open source projects that is easier to torrent instead of spend a lot on servers.... So no accusing of illegal torrenting or getting off topic please...

All I can say is, Welcome to Sprint, the Now Network, where 3g speeds are no better than dial-up from 1995.

sitlet said:
All I can say is, Welcome to Sprint, the Now Network, where 3g speeds are no better than dial-up from 1995.
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Its horrible but true. I hope this network vision plan they got going will change it for most of us!

One I coined the " Now DialUp Network".
Two lol I was wondering if anyone had experienced the the same thing or if anyone could explain what I am seeing.
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Two lol I was wondering if anyone had experienced the the same thing or if anyone could explain what I am seeing.
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With speeds this crappy, it's HIGHLY likely if you run a speed test, then run another a few seconds later, you will get very different speeds.