speed fun - Nexus S General

hi everyone
this is my bad news
i just got my nexus s
and i still own my galaxy s
now same phone provider(optus australia) same Apn setting this is speed result?
Galaxy S: 4.92 download
1.12 uploading
Nexus S: 2.21 download
1.05 uploading
what also i can see i got H on my Galaxy but only 3g on my Nexux s
well for sure this make the different i believe but why for the same Apn tested in the same place??
now we have to fing the answare
Mr Gee

The answer is that Google don't seem to like the H icon and therefore disables it. The phone still works fine on HSPA, it just doesn't display it.

i can understand
but the different in speed?

gerardo66 said:
i can understand
but the different in speed?
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Have you done multiple tests against multiple servers at different times of the day and averaged the results?
I can truly see a difference of 50% or more from one test to another sometimes, even when ran just a few minutes apart. Network traffic is just funny that way.
The other thing you might want to do to validate your comparisons is get the Antennas app from the Market (it's free) and make sure both phones are actually connecting to the same tower. They should be, but if you're in an overlapping tower area, they might not be due to load balancing by the network.

i will try
so definitely is not H on nexus S?

gerardo66 said:
i will try
so definitely is not H on nexus S?
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You will never see an H indicator on the Nexus S with the current stock firmwares. You'd need to flash a modded ROM or modify your frameworks file yourself to get it.
The phone is definitely capable of H speeds, though.

Same here in Florida. Vibrant gets 5 or 6 mbps down and 1.6 up while NS gets a max of 2 or 3 down and 900 k up
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Thank elkavayo
you confirm my felling
so now what is this problem? how we solve?

elkavayo said:
Same here in Florida. Vibrant gets 5 or 6 mbps down and 1.6 up while NS gets a max of 2 or 3 down and 900 k up
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gerardo66 said:
Thank elkavayo
you confirm my felling
so now what is this problem? how we solve?
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Have you guys called T-Mo customer service and asked them to look into the problem relative to your individual phone?
They'll probably tell you to try a new SIM card (if you're using the one you had on an older device).
The phone is capable of faster speeds than you're seeing. It should get comparable to a Vibrant.

my sim i three week old
i will try to swap with sim from gs and test again
to be continued

I'm going to start throatpunching people who ask this question.
Just because you don't see an "H" in the framework, doesn't mean you're not connecting to the HSDPA.
Start downloading something then type in *#*4636#*#* in the dialer. Look at "Phone Info" and watch the "Network Type." You'll notice a few seconds after it starts downloading, it'll switch from UMTS(3G) to HSDPA(also 3G).

Hi Unremarked
have you try the code your self?
i try and give me wrong code!!

gerardo66 said:
Hi Unremarked
have you try the code your self?
i try and give me wrong code!!
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*#*#4636#*#*
Typed too fast, my fault.

Or you can find the same info in Settings > About > Status

I love my vibrant, so fast so reliable so quick...to me nexus s is a downgrade

I have both the SNS and the SGS
SGS is on Fido
SNS on Wind
both gets a top speed down speed of 2800+ Mbps
and aprox 800+ Mbps up stream
that just gives you an idea that the SNS works properly, it might simply be the capacity load of the cell tower you were connected to

distortedloop said:
Have you guys called T-Mo customer service and asked them to look into the problem relative to your individual phone?
They'll probably tell you to try a new SIM card (if you're using the one you had on an older device).
The phone is capable of faster speeds than you're seeing. It should get comparable to a Vibrant.
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Nothing wrong with the phones or SIM. Has to do with the modem. Flashing different modems on the vibrant have the same effect. Some modems are more aggressive, but use more battery. Nexus One stock gets same download speed as nexus S. I'm sure most NS and Vibrant will perform the same in the same geographical area.
BTW, you don't get the same download speeds everywhere. At home I get 2mbps but at work, about noon, I get close to 6 (with the vibrant) and close to 3 with NS.
In any case, 2mbps is pretty good. I won't go and exchange my phone because of that. I have learned to enjoy my NS as opposed to look for any possible thing that makes it not perfect in the eyes of "my friends"

zc4life said:
I love my vibrant, so fast so reliable so quick...to me nexus s is a downgrade
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cool.. if you love it so much, why are you on the Nexus S forum trying to discourage other people about the phone? Not trying to be rude or anything but posts saying Nexus S is a downgrade compared to X phone is just really annoying.

Heh
zephiK said:
cool.. if you love it so much, why are you on the Nexus S forum trying to discourage other people about the phone? Not trying to be rude or anything but posts saying Nexus S is a downgrade compared to X phone is just really annoying.
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Im not trying to be rude but it is what it is...

AllGamer said:
I have both the SNS and the SGS
SGS is on Fido
SNS on Wind
both gets a top speed down speed of 2800+ Mbps
and aprox 800+ Mbps up stream
that just gives you an idea that the SNS works properly, it might simply be the capacity load of the cell tower you were connected to
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you do mean Kbps right?
2800 Mbps would be 933.33 MBps and that's <b><u>CRAZY</u></b> fast lol

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What is your tether speed on 3G

I am on Caulks 1.7.1, and the pic attached will show my speeds tethered to my computer.Can I see some speeds pls? Can anyone offer good or bad on what I am getting.
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I am on Caulks 1.7.1, and the pic attached will show my speeds tethered to my computer.Can I see some speeds pls? Can anyone offer good or bad on what I am getting.
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Your speeds are 0kbps? Wow. I get better (or same) speeds on my microwave.
EDIT: I know I'm going to break a number of rules or even get banned, but I cannot resist it.
You are truly a neanderthal.
nabbed said:
Your speeds are 0kbps? Wow. I get better (or same) speeds on my microwave.
EDIT: I know I'm going to break a number of rules or even get banned, but I cannot resist it.
You are truly a neanderthal.
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I am new to this and was under the thought that it was the top number that counted but I am new so..lol
The bottom numbers did bottom out after an hour of surfing but it ran my computer fast.So I dont know.
Glockshooter said:
I am new to this and was under the thought that it was the top number that counted but I am new so..lol
The bottom numbers did bottom out after an hour of surfing but it ran my computer fast.So I dont know.
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You should run a speed test.
A common and reliable one is http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
the top numbers in red and green is the TOTAL amount of download and upload data you have used... the bottom numbers in white are the current speed you are getting (if ur actually downloading something at the moment or surfing the web)
Many variables come into play to determine speeds; network load, signal quality, test server location, other obstructions on the pc (such as firewall), etc..
In general, on 3g, i've seen download speeds up to ~1.5 mbps, with average of 600-800 kbps, upload speeds of 300-800 kbps.
4G, download up to 6 mbps, 12 mbps burst with full 4g signal, about 1 mbps upload either way. ymmv
Just did speak easy test from my phone. Got 737kbps download and 372 kbps for upload. These numbers any good??
That seems about normal. Download speeds will go to about 1.7 MBps while upload hovers around 1 MBps.
1.58Mb/s down
.56Mb/s up
Wish I had 4G lol
nabbed said:
Your speeds are 0kbps? Wow. I get better (or same) speeds on my microwave.
EDIT: I know I'm going to break a number of rules or even get banned, but I cannot resist it.
You are truly a neanderthal.
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It may seem like you didn't understand what the screen said, however, when I installed Calkulin's 1.7.1....my speeds dropped to almost zero....basically non-existant. I had to run the new Sprint RUU and email customer service again to do a reset on my phone. Whatever they do, it works! I am now getting 1.5Mbps d/l and about 500kbps up. Something is going on with flashing roms as this never used to happen. Now, it seems to happen all the time. I wish there was more information from others about this or from the DEVS. I am wondering if by tweeking to make it better/faster/smoother....files are being deleted that are intertwined for 3G to work or connect properly.
Also, I am wondering, since in the era of Big Brother, if Sprint knows by reading our systems...if they can monitor and thus limit what is allowed to be used for bandwidth. I ran an app called 3gtest and it showed that all ports were first pretty much allowed except for a few.....then it would show all blocked except for port 22 sh.....just a thought as I know for me, something is borking my 3G and it just started recently after flashing about 100 roms.

4g speeds on my non 4g vibrant

Ok, so I think T-Mobile is trying to pull a fast one with the release of the so called new 4g version of vibrant. I have got over 7.2mg a sec download speeds just using 3g service on my axura 2.2.5.9 voodoo vibrant rom. And who cares about a ffc.I don't know one person that has that on their device. So, screw you T-Mobile for trying to pull a fast one on us. Here at xda we are smarter then you! Lol
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My normal 3G speed at my home is around 5mg download and 2.5mg upload. Still fast as hell
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17 meg my ass the device can only handle 7,2 max even on wifi its 7.2 max i have 50 mb wifi connectiion and still only max at 7.2.
I have heard of the 7.2 cap as well. How bout a screenshot of your device getting higher than that?
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Ok, so I think T-Mobile is trying to pull a fast one with the release of the so called new 4g version of vibrant. I have got over 17mg a sec download speeds just using 3g service on my axura 2.2.5.9 voodoo vibrant rom. And who cares about a ffc.I don't know one person that has that on their device. So, screw you T-Mobile for trying to pull a fast one on us. Here at xda we are smarter then you! Lol
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wow.. you seriously think ppl will believe you. wow... okay. the vibrant hardware only supports up to 7.2mbps thru wireless network.. and this is a HARDWARE LIMITATION.
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17 meg my ass the device can only handle 7,2 max even on wifi its 7.2 max i have 50 mb wifi connectiion and still only max at 7.2.
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that's not true. 7.2 on tmobs network yes. but on wifi, the vibrant isn't capped. i've got 14mb down on wifi on my vibrant at university, and consistently get over 7.2 on my 10mb down wifi at home.
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proresearch said:
17 meg my ass the device can only handle 7,2 max even on wifi its 7.2 max i have 50 mb wifi connectiion and still only max at 7.2.
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This is what my vibrant does on Axuro 2.2.5.7 over my wifi network as for 3g hspa thats in my signature
19 mg Guys
No matter what you say here is the proof
I get this all the time 17-19mg DL
LOL who need 4G............
proresearch said:
17 meg my ass the device can only handle 7,2 max even on wifi its 7.2 max i have 50 mb wifi connectiion and still only max at 7.2.
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watch your language. People like you should be banned
Next time you should do some research before you talk like that.
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oka1 said:
No matter what you say here is the proof
I get this all the time 17-19mg DL
LOL who need 4G............
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wifi is enabled
Yea dam t9 on my vibrant.suppose to say 7.2mg not 17mg lol I wish. My bad. But had you going hah
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brian_v3ntura said:
wifi is enabled
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Yes but according to their specs 7.2 is max on wifi......... it is not
On 3g it is 5 average
On wifi I can hit 22/6 speeds at home, I have 25/25 Fios.
My 3g sucks in Anaheim, CA. I am getting 300kb/202.
proresearch said:
17 meg my ass the device can only handle 7,2 max even on wifi its 7.2 max i have 50 mb wifi connectiion and still only max at 7.2.
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wrong on wifi i pulled almost 10mbps download and 1.5 upload
I have yet to see anyone come up with EXACTLY which chips are in the phone (guess I'll have to be the one to take a physical look).
It can be spec'd as one thing, show up in a software identifier as another, and still be a physically different chip with whatever capabilities.
It makes no sense at all that Slambung would have made a whole new circuit board to support this same CPU, the same screen, the same graphics, etc etc....
Even without looking I'm willing to wager money it's the same receiver chip with a simple disabled path or lane. Not a all difficult to limit the hardware in many ways (prom flash, disconnected pin, software, you name it). Very profitabable in the long run for a company to do so.
It's very funny to see all these people who say it's not possible because it was written down in the spec sheet that this is the limits of the hardware.
Heh, who wrote the spec sheet ?
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I have yet to see anyone come up with EXACTLY which chips are in the phone (guess I'll have to be the one to take a physical look).
It can be spec'd as one thing, show up in a software identifier as another, and still be a physically different chip with whatever capabilities.
It makes no sense at all that Slambung would have made a whole new circuit board to support this same CPU, the same screen, the same graphics, etc etc....
Even without looking I'm willing to wager money it's the same receiver chip with a simple disabled path or lane. Not a all difficult to limit the hardware in many ways (prom flash, disconnected pin, software, you name it). Very profitabable in the long run for a company to do so.
It's very funny to see all these people who say it's not possible because it was written down in the spec sheet that this is the limits of the hardware.
Heh, who wrote the spec sheet ?
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I'm not so sure it is all the same. The new vibrant I thought I read will have a better screen then our originals, which would be the Super Amoled Plus screen. I may be wrong, but if it does have that screen which is suppose to get brighter and use less battery then I would assume the main board would be different also.
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wifi is not capped
I can get 50mbps or 50,000 kbps download on my vibrant using my wifi connection.
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Ok, so I think T-Mobile is trying to pull a fast one with the release of the so called new 4g version of vibrant. I have got over 7.2mg a sec download speeds just using 3g service on my axura 2.2.5.9 voodoo vibrant rom. And who cares about a ffc.I don't know one person that has that on their device. So, screw you T-Mobile for trying to pull a fast one on us. Here at xda we are smarter then you! Lol
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No you haven't.
Lemme guess: You tested at mobilespeedtest.net too, huh?
7.2 is as fast as this phone goes on cellular. Period.
Unless Axura replaces your hardware too...
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Yes but according to their specs 7.2 is max on wifi......... it is not
On 3g it is 5 average
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Source please.
Nowhere does it say that wifi is limited to 7.2mbps.

Data speeds, wtf?

Wow my 3G is like less than 20KB right now what the ****?
My 4G is like 80KB
My 4G at like 3am is 400KB but what the hell is wrong with sprint? I don't even wnat to call them because they will go through the same "Oh nothing is wrong on our end" bull****
Anybody else????
try this, using root explorer i went into system/ etc / host , and change the ip from 127.0.0.1 (or whatever) to 0.0.0.0 (zero's, not O or o), once you do that hit menu and save and exit, now it's going to tell you that it'll save the old ip as host.bak, however your going to want to delete that too, but atleast make sure you write it down and save it.
i went from about 20kbps to 1.2mbps after this, took me a bit to learn that,
Thnx, I downloaded a program called "Adfree Android" as advised http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908210&page=4 < and I'll see if that works. I will try your method too!
Tried 0.0.0.0 with Adfree Android's feature and it just slowed it down some more
tomh1979 said:
try this, using root explorer i went into system/ etc / host , and change the ip from 127.0.0.1 (or whatever) to 0.0.0.0 (zero's, not O or o), once you do that hit menu and save and exit, now it's going to tell you that it'll save the old ip as host.bak, however your going to want to delete that too, but atleast make sure you write it down and save it.
i went from about 20kbps to 1.2mbps after this, took me a bit to learn that,
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hey quick question i did the step you took but when i get to host and open it up on text editor its says file is too large to display it still show but there are about 200+ ip addresses do i have to change them all?
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hey quick question i did the step you took but when i get to host and open it up on text editor its says file is too large to display it still show but there are about 200+ ip addresses do i have to change them all?
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200+, lol holy [email protected]$ i have no clue, i only had one ip.
lmao i mean idk i wish i could post u a screenshot of it but im still kinda new at this stuff
amirborna said:
Thnx, I downloaded a program called "Adfree Android" as advised http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908210&page=4 < and I'll see if that works. I will try your method too!
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i had also downloaded that, but it didn't work for me.
tomh1979 said:
i had also downloaded that, but it didn't work for me.
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Is it me, or the AOSP roms having problems with consistent connection? Or lower speeds, i had to ultimately go back to Sense because Cyan and MIUI connection was slim to none in my room. I don't understand why the rom would do this though, the rom and radio is separate right?
The last two days have been bad in east of the lake around the Seattle area. My 4g sometimes just keeps looping to connect. Media streaming is crappy. Something must be going on. But when I get connected to 4g it is pretty fast around 9mbps.
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mykenyc said:
Is it me, or the AOSP roms having problems with consistent connection? Or lower speeds, i had to ultimately go back to Sense because Cyan and MIUI connection was slim to none in my room. I don't understand why the rom would do this though, the rom and radio is separate right?
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i don't think it matter's wether it's sense or aosp, i had issue's with both showing poor 3g, while 4g was just fine as it normally was.
I don't know whats wrong with you. I'm at 900kb/600kb
I'm in STL and my 3G speeds have been horrible at best lately, also..
I was just trying to watch a youtube and it was taking forever to load so I ran a speedtest. .02 megs down with a ping of 984. WTF????????? I think this has pretty much made up my mind. When the Thunderbolt drops im done with Sprint.
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Wow my 3G is like less than 20KB right now what the ****?
My 4G is like 80KB
My 4G at like 3am is 400KB but what the hell is wrong with sprint? I don't even wnat to call them because they will go through the same "Oh nothing is wrong on our end" bull****
Anybody else????
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8634171&postcount=7
tomh1979 said:
try this, using root explorer i went into system/ etc / host , and change the ip from 127.0.0.1 (or whatever) to 0.0.0.0 (zero's, not O or o), once you do that hit menu and save and exit, now it's going to tell you that it'll save the old ip as host.bak, however your going to want to delete that too, but atleast make sure you write it down and save it.
i went from about 20kbps to 1.2mbps after this, took me a bit to learn that,
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Hey thanks man I went from 200kbps to about 900-1000kbps..though I need more testing but its ok so far..I appreciate the info.
jonathan413 said:
Hey thanks man I went from 200kbps to about 900-1000kbps..though I need more testing but its ok so far..I appreciate the info.
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Good, glad this helped someone else.
swyped from my gingerbread'd Evo 4G
Before 4G was "officially" out in los angeles I was getting 9mb down, I tried last week and got 1.2mb down. That's horrible and I am assuming it's because once sprint said 4G was available everyone started using it. A girl that just started working with me has the EVO and was saying how she keeps 4G on all the time just because. I wish I could get faster speeds too : (
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Before 4G was "officially" out in los angeles I was getting 9mb down, I tried last week and got 1.2mb down. That's horrible and I am assuming it's because once sprint said 4G was available everyone started using it. A girl that just started working with me has the EVO and was saying how she keeps 4G on all the time just because. I wish I could get faster speeds too : (
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Women don't deserve cellphones they should be making a sandwich in the kitchen just my ¢.04 also I recently brought my evo in at a sprint store in south texas and the douche who replaced my screen stole my sense and gave me some bs rhetoric about sense I lost mine and like htc sense a lot
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ProcessorHog said:
The last two days have been bad in east of the lake around the Seattle area. My 4g sometimes just keeps looping to connect. Media streaming is crappy. Something must be going on. But when I get connected to 4g it is pretty fast around 9mbps.
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I live in the Freemont/Ballard area and I have been experiencing horrible 3g speeds.

You will be disappointed by hsupa

Everyone is so angry that we don't have this feature active. I am as well but soley on principle. The truth is the average user wont notice any significant change in their data usage once we get hsupa unlocked on our phones. We will still have slow 3g speeds on our so called 4g phones. The only difference is you will be able to put your pictures up faster on Facebook. I think alot of people are confused as to what the update will unlock for us. I'm not here to bash because I love my atrix. Its one of the best pieces of hardware I have owned. I just wish we could get some vanilla android on it. So when they roll out the update and your wondering where your 4g speeds are at least youll have a heads up. Until att rolls out their back haul project we will still have slower than iPhone 3gs hspa speeds.
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3GS doesn't have HSPA+ capabilities. You are right though. Most of us will not experience 4g speeds.
However, you are wrong in that hsupa only increases upload speeds. Hsupa helps decrease ping, from what I've seen, by half of what we get now. This shows for faster data downloads.
Also, nobody is going to be disappointed there upload speeds aren't capped anymore.
You're also right in that the average user won't notice a difference. But we're xda members here. We notice every thing.
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For me it is somewhat on principle and somewhat on reality. I have a Xperia X10 with generic ROM and I easily get 1200 kbps upload speed, considering Sony got bashed for older technology and at&t discontinued it after around 6 months, I think it is totally ridiculous that my Atrix has 25% of its upload speed.
There is a very noticeable difference in upload time, it takes me way too long to upload pictures to picasa and I do that a lot, almost with every picture I take.
I love mine as well but I am really looking forward to the increased upload speeds.
My 2 cents.
Upload pics and video daily. I miss might iOS iPhone 4
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Faster ping yes. Faster download...no....faster ping means faster connection to a download. Either way it shouldnt have been disabled. Yes were xda members but there is still prob 50% of the members that dont understand the diffference between data connections or speed. The 3gs isnt hspa+ capable but i used to get faster data speeds on mine than i do with my atrix. The 3gs was capable of 7.2 hsdpa speeds i believe?. So sad
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Faster ping yes. Faster download...no....faster ping means faster connection to a download. Either way it shouldnt have been disabled. Yes were xda members but there is still prob 50% of the members that dont understand the diffference between data connections or speed. The 3gs isnt hspa+ capable but i used to get faster data speeds on mine than i do with my atrix. The 3gs was capable of 7.2 hsdpa speeds i believe?. So sad
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My wife has a 3gs and we get the same speeds. Same with my buddy's iphone4. We just have slower upload. Looks like you thought better upload would help our downloads. Anyone who bought this phone thinking they would get 4g speeds are smokin something.
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Smallsmx3 said:
Faster ping yes. Faster download...no....faster ping means faster connection to a download. Either way it shouldnt have been disabled. Yes were xda members but there is still prob 50% of the members that dont understand the diffference between data connections or speed. The 3gs isnt hspa+ capable but i used to get faster data speeds on mine than i do with my atrix. The 3gs was capable of 7.2 hsdpa speeds i believe?. So sad
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Better ping means better everything. Second, our Atrix is capable of 14.4 down.
If you don't understand the value of lower ping with download speeds, than you don't understand how these things work.
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What we will see is faster average download speeds. Speedtest.net is fine but you do.not really see those speeds. There are way to many varibales.
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I understand....i know what the atrix is capable of.....u seem to be alot more educated about this than i.....i was just trying to make a general sratement when i started this thread because there seem to be alot of misinformed people. I figured by starting this thread that the right info could get out there and users would understand what it is we are getting. I apreciate u clearing things up.....it would be nice fore someone to post the correct info about data connections and sticky it.
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Smallsmx3 said:
I understand....i know what the atrix is capable of.....u seem to be alot more educated about this than i.....i was just trying to make a general sratement when i started this thread because there seem to be alot of misinformed people. I figured by starting this thread that the right info could get out there and users would understand what it is we are getting. I apreciate u clearing things up.....it would be nice fore someone to post the correct info about data connections and sticky it.
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Better ping will be a better overall online experience, you can't deny that.
I easily notice it when I take my SIM out of my Atrix and put it into my Milestone or Fascinate. Sometimes I have scramble for WiFi to get a better reliable connection. Why should I have to do that on a data plan?
The HSUPA update would definitely help...
Ok...help by a couple of miliseconds. I had it on my captivate. All im stating is the average user is going to be disappointed. Average user includes most of the noobs.
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Ok...help by a couple of miliseconds. I had it on my captivate. All im stating is the average user is going to be disappointed. Average user includes most of the noobs.
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Too bad none of us are average users then. Most average users don't know or don't care what HSUPA is or what it does. To them as long it says H+ ont heir phone, they don't care. Telling us we'll be disappointed is pointless, simply because we already know what's coming.
A few of us own multiple devices (myself included), and have experience with what HSUPA does and provides. I myself own an Inspire and Captivate as well as the Atrix, and HSUPA will definitely be a blessing.
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Everyone is so angry that we don't have this feature active. I am as well but soley on principle. The truth is the average user wont notice any significant change in their data usage once we get hsupa unlocked on our phones. We will still have slow 3g speeds on our so called 4g phones. The only difference is you will be able to put your pictures up faster on Facebook. I think alot of people are confused as to what the update will unlock for us. I'm not here to bash because I love my atrix. Its one of the best pieces of hardware I have owned. I just wish we could get some vanilla android on it. So when they roll out the update and your wondering where your 4g speeds are at least youll have a heads up. Until att rolls out their back haul project we will still have slower than iPhone 3gs hspa speeds.
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True. But, for tethering, the HSUPA will make a difference. Thats all im looking forward to. I know that the DL speeds wont change...
The Atrix is hitting the market across the pond. suppose Moto doesn't want to have the "crippled phone" reputation still hanging out there. I would think that is why the update is coming from moto instead of att. At&t probably prefers that it not be done yet, they ain't ready. It will be more obvious when it's released on a network that doesn't have piss poor speeds like those in chubby's post. I use speedtest also, and seldom achieve the download speed he posts. Luvin AT&T. The Atrix is a wonderful device. I can't find much of anything good to say about our serviceless provider...
meh not like people here actually bought for the "4G speeds"(we know its BS) pretty sure we all looked at the dual core 1 gig ram and qHD display
At the AT&T store where I work my iPhone 4 used to pull upwards of 6mbps down, my Atrix MIGHT hit 2mbps. MAYBE.
I've always wondered why that is....
It's backplane that matters
Download/upload speed really depends on backplane speed, not just on phone. You can have super faster upload/download speed on your phone. But if the backplane is congested, you won't see that "4G" speed.
We are still in early stage of 4G rollout. So do not expect too much. The backplane has not been totally upgraded yet and there are congestions during peak hours.
I design network gear as a career and I see how much we are selling these stuff to cellphone carriers. They are expensive! Typical mid range edge routers are close to 1M a pop. Another word, do not expect AT&T becomes 4G overnight. They have to slowly upgrade these gears, and most of the time, they won't upgrade until the old gear becomes obsolete.
No way jose... its really quick! I'm getting around 1000 upload and around 3500 down! I'm sure you americans will be even faster when you get uncapped!
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ChongoDroid said:
No way jose... its really quick! I'm getting around 1000 upload and around 3500 down! I'm sure you americans will be even faster when you get uncapped!
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I'm guessing that you are using Telstra?...
ccrows said:
I'm guessing that you are using Telstra?...
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Yezzir
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Cm10.1 ROM with USA radio band fix. Can now pick 1900mhz for T-Mobile

I've tried accessing the hidden menu via *#*#4636#*#* but when I go to the setting to change radio band it force closes, is there any other way to change it via cmd adb or something? Would like to test the new 1900mhz band ;D
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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9wuQYoYYGrzampEa3poWHAtR0E/edit
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Serious_Beans said:
I've tried accessing the hidden menu via *#*#4636#*#* but when I go to the setting to change radio band it force closes, is there any other way to change it via cmd adb or something? Would like to test the new 1900mhz band ;D
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Been trying myself! Don't know where to fix that issue. The Gnex had no problem with that. This one does tho... I live 5 miles from the 1900 tower.
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Been trying myself! Don't know where to fix that issue. The Gnex had no problem with that. This one does tho... I live 5 miles from the 1900 tower.
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I'm so upset I want to try it.
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There has to be a way ... :/
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Are you on the stock ROM? If not, that might be the issue (because of the modifications made to it something could've gone wrong in that specific ROM.) You could also attempt to use Phone Info from the play store if it simply just doesn't work in the dialer. There's not many people that have issues doing this, so it could be that you might just have to reset your phone if all else fails.
doesnt force close on me.
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Are you on the stock ROM? If not, that might be the issue (because of the modifications made to it something could've gone wrong in that specific ROM.) You could also attempt to use Phone Info from the play store if it simply just doesn't work in the dialer. There's not many people that have issues doing this, so it could be that you might just have to reset your phone if all else fails.
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This was happening to me on stock ROM/kernel and on two different phones
Basically I just want to know if there is any other method to change it. If not then I'll just wait a random amount of time and try again after a new update comes out
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It force closes on my phone too when in phone info and I try to select radio band
I even downloaded the phone info app n its the same thing
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It force closes on my phone too when in phone info and I try to select radio band
I even downloaded the phone info app n its the same thing
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You running a custom ROM or kernel?
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Are you on the stock ROM? If not, that might be the issue (because of the modifications made to it something could've gone wrong in that specific ROM.) You could also attempt to use Phone Info from the play store if it simply just doesn't work in the dialer. There's not many people that have issues doing this, so it could be that you might just have to reset your phone if all else fails.
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This was happening to me on stock ROM/kernel and on two different phones
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This happens to me too. I'm using stock rooted 4.2.1.
Alright so its just random? Works for some not for others? It can't be software then...hardware problem? Idk >_< I just want better indoor service Lol.
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Alright so its just random? Works for some not for others? It can't be software then...hardware problem? Idk >_< I just want better indoor service Lol.
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I think it crashes on all phone. It is software problem.
I called tech support and had him tried it on his phone and it crashed too.
which band do you switch it to?
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Just Tried it again on CFX SR1 W/ brixked 0.6 and got an FC. I got it stock as well.
But from what ive heard you will not kick into HSPA+ mode until you put a strain on your conection. IE: Idling/web browsing/facebook will not bring you up to HSPA:15 (you can check you HSPA Channel in the settings--->about phone--->Status and then look at mobile Network Type). Knowing that i live in a well covered area i was upset that i couldnt get full 42mbps. But as my research and expereince has shown i can get it, just only when its necessary.
NOW, im not a wireless tech, im not even a rocket scientist, but i have done alot of reasearch and the data matches my hypothesis so ill lay it out for everyone to tear apart.
HSPA+ 42M works by using a Dual Carrier signal, which of course uses a bit more power than a single carrier. So even if you have a perfect -0dbm signal strength, you will only see HSPA:10 [ aka 21mbps ] in your network type. BUT, if you put a load on your connection ( in my case i took a multi hundred meg file into dropbox and then downloaded it) you will see the speeds increase signifigantly past the first little bit of data transfer, and if your are quick about it or cook up some sort of widget or overlay you can see the phone kick up to "high gear" and use the HSPA:15 channel.
i have also seen this in effect with larger apps. For instance the Ingress update that i got earlier today downloaded in these steps: 756k - 1.3Mb - 3.5mb installing. in ~ 10 seconds.
tl;dr Phone idles in low speed mode, goes to high speed when needed.
So if you want to test for yourself and have a bit of data left on your account (in 3 test i burned ~ 250MB) start a big download and then quickly switch to a view of the network type.
Ludacon said:
Just Tried it again on CFX SR1 W/ brixked 0.6 and got an FC. I got it stock as well.
But from what ive heard you will not kick into HSPA+ mode until you put a strain on your conection. IE: Idling/web browsing/facebook will not bring you up to HSPA:15 (you can check you HSPA Channel in the settings--->about phone--->Status and then look at mobile Network Type). Knowing that i live in a well covered area i was upset that i couldnt get full 42mbps. But as my research and expereince has shown i can get it, just only when its necessary.
NOW, im not a wireless tech, im not even a rocket scientist, but i have done alot of reasearch and the data matches my hypothesis so ill lay it out for everyone to tear apart.
HSPA+ 42M works by using a Dual Carrier signal, which of course uses a bit more power than a single carrier. So even if you have a perfect -0dbm signal strength, you will only see HSPA:10 [ aka 21mbps ] in your network type. BUT, if you put a load on your connection ( in my case i took a multi hundred meg file into dropbox and then downloaded it) you will see the speeds increase signifigantly past the first little bit of data transfer, and if your are quick about it or cook up some sort of widget or overlay you can see the phone kick up to "high gear" and use the HSPA:15 channel.
i have also seen this in effect with larger apps. For instance the Ingress update that i got earlier today downloaded in these steps: 756k - 1.3Mb - 3.5mb installing. in ~ 10 seconds.
tl;dr Phone idles in low speed mode, goes to high speed when needed.
So if you want to test for yourself and have a bit of data left on your account (in 3 test i burned ~ 250MB) start a big download and then quickly switch to a view of the network type.
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In this thread, we are talking about changing TMobile 3G bands: 1700 (current) and 1900(new, refarmed). We are not talking about HSPA, HSPA+, etc.
Mine FC's as well. I'm unlocked and rooted only
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You running a custom ROM or kernel?
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Yes
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Well no one has a solution or an actual idea about what the problem is so I guess we will just be waiting x amount of time for a fix. Maybe a ROM dev can look into this and fix the issue because it'd be really nice to use the new 1900mhz bands. Can someone do a log cat and see what the issue is? No laptop ATM.
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