Hey guys,
So I've recently come across the JMC rom like most of you out there.
I know there are a lot of users out there new to the flashing scene and more importantly they are unsure of where to begin despite all the guides out there.
I did however also want to give a quick overview.Of what I've seen so far in in JMC having started on stock Bell firmware and then going to JPK5, then JM6, JMA, and then recently moving on to JMC. Currently I'm using Roto-JMC on a JMA Base,
For most new people, or people afraid or unsure of whether to flash here is a really quick breakdown of what I've seen changed, improved so far since JM6, JMA:
Pros:
-Fastest ROM yet
-Smoother browser, smooth enough infact for me to delete Miren after doing extensive comparisons in performance.
-Smoother drop down bar (has its quirks)
-Great performance in TWUi
-Email app appears to be working flawlessly now
-No more issues with Screen timeout
-No more jagged browsing experience like in Bell Stock firmware
-Gallery app is silky silky smooth even when browsing 2.5 gb of pictures.
-Browser multi-touch, two finger zoom has improved vastly
-Full Bluetooth HID support (compared to Stock Bell Firmware) which means full keyboard/mouse support!
Cons:
-Performance on drop down depends on running tasks (but its 100%+ better than in Stock Bell Firmware)
-Had issues with update, so had to restore defaults which was for the better anyways
-No updated Market App (quick fix)
-Swype still not scaling properly (Lol.. pm me for how to fix that if you must)
-Still no Pinch to zoom in Dolphin HD
Untested/Unknown:
-Batterylife affected?
-DPI issues as others have reported
-Performance improvement with OLFC (for tab) untested yet
Comments:
Having HEAVILY used Stock Bell and JMA, since I use my tab at work.. I will say, the browser performance in this build truly blew my mind. It was so much better than stock. Having compared 2 tabs, one Bell Stock and JMC I am absolutely stunned at the difference when browsing sites like Engadget or Gizmodo. The multi-touch to zoom support is so much better in this build, it feels so smooth and more reactive than before. Its not perfect, not yet... But soon.
Samsung devs are really getting there. Really noticeable performance with UI and drop down, I have a feeling in a few more builds it will be almost perfect.
In the end, this all made me happy because I love my tab even more now! Hope this helps anyone out there wondering on whether or not to flash.
As for JMC vs JMD.. No real feedback from the community yet on JMD so I'll give JMD a run down after a few days of testing in order to make sure I get a good amount of experience.
Thanks for your insight! Happy Holidays!
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Great review! Also, does this firmware fix the multi-touch issues with the dolphin hd browser that plagued earlier European firmwares?
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Great review! Also, does this firmware fix the multi-touch issues with the dolphin hd browser that plagued earlier European firmwares?
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Give me a brief description of the issue and I'll test this immediately.
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Great review! Also, does this firmware fix the multi-touch issues with the dolphin hd browser that plagued earlier European firmwares?
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No. Still no pinch zoom in dolphin.
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No. Still no pinch zoom in dolphin.
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Updated above with added information.
Thanks!
great initiative. Fully agree with your pros and cons. Still think that the browser could be faster though.
Also still waiting on a 2.2.1 update (the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1 made a great difference for the Galaxy S series)
BTW love your avatar. Is Steve really juggling 4 perfect sized tablets You gotta love his skills
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No. Still no pinch zoom in dolphin.
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Pinch to zoom works fine for me in dolphin and I'm only on jj7.
nice review TY
Norwegian languange
Hi, can someone please tell me wether JMC includes norwegian swype input or not?
Merry christmas to all btw!
Same for me, i got a stock update from kies to jj7, dolphin works fine.
The fixed browser slowdown on busy sites is appealing, but im waiting for a ROM with no cons before i bother to upgrade.
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appelflap said:
great initiative. Fully agree with your pros and cons. Still think that the browser could be faster though.
Also still waiting on a 2.2.1 update (the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1 made a great difference for the Galaxy S series)
BTW love your avatar. Is Steve really juggling 4 perfect sized tablets You gotta love his skills
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Thanks for your feedback!
I do believe the browser could be faster but there is honestly no smoother alternative at the moment. The browser in JMC is faster than both miren and dolphin by a bit at this point but not faster or smoother than opera but we all know how weird opera rendering really is.
Remember though these are all Dev builds at the moment so we should see some improvement in the next few builds.
As for the avatar hahaha its actually an ipad he's holding like that so its editted to show him holding what the ipad really is!
crippleb0y said:
Hi, can someone please tell me wether JMC includes norwegian swype input or not?
Merry christmas to all btw!
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Hello!
I'm currently not using swype from JMC if not I'd test this and give you feedback immediatley. I'm currently using swype from a different build since it has the landscape mode fixed and this version only supports EFIGSD languages plus the Asian laungauges.
Maybe someone else who is using stock JMC can give you some feedback.
Cheers
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Same for me, i got a stock update from kies to jj7, dolphin works fine.
The fixed browser slowdown on busy sites is appealing, but im waiting for a ROM with no cons before i bother to upgrade.
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No such thing as no cons. Despite any cons JMC may have the performance increase is astounding when compared to stock.
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Agreed. Jmc is so much better to pass because of dolphine pinch zoom issue for me. There are alternatives I can use for browsers, but not when it comes to perf and stability.
an update from me. i was flashed to jm6 no screen timeout issue then flash to roto-jmc no timeout issue at the begging but today it started suddenly. i can fix it by changing timeout duration for several times after device restarts but issue is still there.
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an update from me. i was flashed to jm6 no screen timeout issue then flash to roto-jmc no timeout issue at the begging but today it started suddenly. i can fix it by changing timeout duration for several times after device restarts but issue is still there.
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Haven't had this issue at all actually.
Are you using Spare parts?
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Haven't had this issue at all actually.
Are you using Spare parts?
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no dont have spareparts and never had. this is a weird situation for me, as i said jm6 i dont have after upgrade to roto-jmc i dont have the issue but after 3 days of roto-jmc usage it started suddenly while i was looking for a good ebook reader and trying the ones in the market. i think the issue is there in the jmc rom too and waiting for something to trigger it.
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No such thing as no cons. Despite any cons JMC may have the performance increase is astounding when compared to stock.
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Edit: nevermind, just used roto's firmware package and updated to JMC. Not only does it look less garish, it is definitely much smoother so far. Thanks
Does anyone else have ebooks force closing on startup on jmc?
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Hey guys,
I previously reviewed JMC firmware that was noted as recent on the development scene of firmwares.
Here is a quick run down of JME, which by all means deserves its own review.
I did however also want to give a quick overview of what I've seen so far in in JMC having started on stock Bell firmware and then going to JPK5, then JM6, JMA, JMC and then recently moving on to JME. Currently I'm using Roto-JME full flash with the samsung addons and no OCLF.
For most new people, or people afraid or unsure of whether to flash here is a really quick breakdown of what I've seen changed, improved so far since JM6, JMA, JMC:
Pros:
-Fastest ROM yet - even faster than JMC by quite a bit.
-Smoothest browser yet. In JMC it was a bit above Miren's performance but this time its no comparison. Engadget with flash loads insanely fast and scrolling is super smooth. Its impressive, in fact comparing to the bell stock tab, its almost mind boggling.
-Smoother drop down bar (seems to remain smoother now, so a noted improvement over JMC, though observe below)
-Great performance in TWUi - on par with JMC
-Email app is responsive, smooth and works perfectly. (Exchange not tested yet)
-No more issues with Screen timeout. (Some people reported issues with this in JMC but after heavy testing there is no way I can reproduce this old issue.)
-No more jagged browsing experience like in Bell Stock firmware
-Gallery app is still silky silky smooth even when browsing 2.5 gb of pictures.
-Browser multi-touch, two finger zoom has improved vastly. (on par with JMC)
-Full Bluetooth HID support (compared to Stock Bell Firmware) which means full keyboard/mouse support!
Cons:
-No updated Market App (quick fix)
-Swype still not scaling properly (Lol.. pm me for how to fix that if you must)
-Smoother drop down bar (still not as smooth as it should be. If this thing was silky smooth like it is on phones it would make this Tab such a sexy beast IMO)
Untested/Unknown:
-Batterylife affected? -Battery life on JMC was superb, so we'll see.
-Pinch to zoom in Dolphin HD
-DPI issues as others have reported (although I'd stay away from DPI modifications as of now)
-Performance improvement with OLFC (for tab) untested yet
Comments:
Having HEAVILY used Stock Bell and JMA and most recently JMC, since I use my tab at work.. I will say, the browser performance in this build truly blew my mind. It was so much better than stock. Having compared 2 tabs, one Bell Stock and JMC I am absolutely stunned at the difference when browsing sites like Engadget or Gizmodo. The multi-touch to zoom support is so much better in this build. I feel the browser is near perfect. Infact when compared to my iPhone it handles these kind of pages without a hiccup (as it should lol)
Props to Samsung for their great work! Thanks to Rotohammer as I've used his cooked JMA, JMC and JME. This dude is a pro! Click here to find his guide on how to flash JME and also his JME cut.
Also:
READ UP before flashing. There are things you must know about protected bootloaders and such. All of this can be found here. Despite these warnings, Roto's JME cut is already futureproofed and this issue no longer applies if you are doing things carefully and in an educated manner.
That is interesting. I am so running the JME packaged by rotohammer, however the stock browser is still way too laggy IMO. It doesn't even compare to my iPhone and Miren is so much smoother than it. It is however, the best stock browser on the tab that I have used yet.
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That is interesting. I am so running the JME packaged by rotohammer, however the stock browser is still way too laggy IMO. It doesn't even compare to my iPhone and Miren is so much smoother than it. It is however, the best stock browser on the tab that I have used yet.
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Hey
So quick question:
Full format install? Or upgrade?
Full format install.
Hate to disappoint...
seven2099: Thanks for the detailed review, I'm sure it will help quite a few while forming their opinion - but I think you set their expectations bar higher than it should...
So just to clarify: I came to share my next-to-nothing experience in regards to the way its "fastness" being described, because frankly - I don't see/feel/taste it.
The Flash experience, from POV, is either:
A. Not useable
B. Laggy
So yes, obviously being laggy is an improvement, but it's still laggy.
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I almost forgot to thank RotoHammer
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seven2099: Thanks for the detailed review, I'm sure it will help quite a few while forming their opinion - but I think you set their expectations bar higher than it should...
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I don't think so - my experience is much like seven2099s.
Note that "lag" is very subjective - my desktop browsers are not always silky smooth and neither are the browsers on my Macs. So, I don't expect my Tab to be either, but for the most part it works very well. On the latest JM builds, I find I don't even need to set plugs to "On Demands" to cope with flash heavy sites.
Regards,
Dave
You're right that being 'laggy' needs to be compared, compared to my friend's IPad (with flash) - which behaves rather smooth,... My stock firmware was simply unuseable (flash), while Roto-JME is an improvement, it's nothing close to being smooth.
So yea, I have IPad as a reference - why would I expect my Tab performance to anything less?
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So yea, I have IPad as a reference - why would I expect my Tab performance to anything less?
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You are asking the wrong question! The question is, is the Tab's browsing performance acceptable on the JME build? The answer to that question, IMO, is definitely yes, whereas on the pre-JMx builds it was not. And I would definitely say that for most sites it is smooth - one site that was brought up as being unusable on the earlier firmwares was ESPN, which is now very usable, though I wouldn't say it was "smooth".
I couldn't give a monkeys that the iPad might be smoother, because fundamentally the iPad does not suit my purposes, so any comparison between the two is moot as far as I'm concerned.
Regards,
Dave
(Still) downloading Roto-JME now, its been running for around 3 hours already. I don't know whats up with that since my other downloads run fine. Sometimes the speed goes down to < 3kbps. Probably my route to the server.
I wish file hashes were provided for firmwares, so we can verify if our downloads aren't corrupt.
@foxmeister: Quite frankly I'm starting to think that it's not about the wrong question, rather about the wrong answer.
You asked a completely different question: "is the Tab's browsing performance acceptable on the JME build?"
Read the descriptions the original post had, and you tell me if these descriptions apply as "acceptable performance" to the common reader...
As I said... I hate to disappoint - and I already thanked seven2099, but I wouldn't use such descriptions to describe it. The fact the original behavior was pretty much unuseable (for me), doesn't mean we should use such descriptions.
An improvement? Yes,
But laggy nevertheless.
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An improvement? Yes,
But laggy nevertheless.
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That's my whole point - in my experience, for the most part, the JME browser isn't at all laggy until you start getting flash heavy. Once you get flash heavy, yes it lags, but not unacceptably so (and probably not a lot worse than my desktop browsers), unlike the original stock browser which was awful even on simple sites.
The difference between the JME browser and the one that shipped on my Tab is like night and day as far as I'm concerned. I do think it is fair to say that the difference between the two is "mind boggling", primarily though because Samsung should have never shipped the Tab with the browser in the state it was.
Regards,
Dave
+1 on JME. The difference isn't huge but it is noticeable. The Roto upgrade on top of JMC with no wipe worked like a charm.
Now we just need to figure out how to unlock these bootloaders because that is weighing heavy on my mind.
@foxmeister: I'm glad that we agree
Hey, anyone else that doesn't have the RELATED section in the Market? Mine didn't have tabs for it in the old version, doesn't have it as a section below Comments in the updated carousel version either, but all my Android phones (yes, I have too many phones) have it.
This isn't specific to JME, I had the same issue with JK5 as well, and clearing Market data and/or uninstalling Market updates doesn't help.
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Hey, anyone else that doesn't have the RELATED section in the Market? Mine didn't have tabs for it in the old version, doesn't have it as a section below Comments in the updated carousel version either, but all my Android phones (yes, I have too many phones) have it.
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I have it on my Tab - it is called Similar though, under Comments. No different to the Market on my Desire HD.
Regards,
Dave
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You're right that being 'laggy' needs to be compared, compared to my friend's IPad (with flash) - which behaves rather smooth,... My stock firmware was simply unuseable (flash), while Roto-JME is an improvement, it's nothing close to being smooth.
So yea, I have IPad as a reference - why would I expect my Tab performance to anything less?
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Because the Tab supports Adobe Flash, and since Adobe Flash is a bloated pile of crap, it makes the browser slow. Uninstall Flash, and the browser will be quicker.
Unfortunately, I'm with Steve Jobs on this one. Flash needs to die.
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You're right that being 'laggy' needs to be compared, compared to my friend's IPad (with flash) - which behaves rather smooth,... My stock firmware was simply unuseable (flash), while Roto-JME is an improvement, it's nothing close to being smooth.
So yea, I have IPad as a reference - why would I expect my Tab performance to anything less?
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Thanks for your input but I will note that you do not technically have Flash on your ipad. Whats available is some half-assed plugin that enables you to use some very basic flash functions. Having said that, and having used it, it is by NO means comparable to full fledged flash support.
Now, as to your comparison. I personally don't find the iPad that snappy and zippy when browsing. For the most part it is, but sometimes it wigs out just like most mobile browsers out there. While you are free to compare your tab to an iPad, I do not as I find although they are both tablet devices, we are talking about two completely different devices with different purposes. Sadly for now the Tab is lagging more on the app support, simply because its running on cellphone OS. Thats not to say that there arent tab apps already (like TouchDown Exchange which has a tablet mode) but there needs to be many many more. We'll see what the future brings
To those of you complaining about browser performance with Flash enabled - just change the plugin setting to on-demand. Then you'll have to tap a flash movie/application to load it - saves you loading up flash banner ads as well.
Hey everybody, I flashed roto jme upgrade from jk5 on my att usa tab. I can say that overall performance has definitely improved from jk5. Browser performance was the biggest improvement. Now, for issues I'm experiencing. First, is I'm getting a "camera failed" error when trying to start up my camera everytime so my camera feature is dead right now. Second, is an audio issue with speakerphone and Bluetooth only. Music and videos etc. Still work great. With speakerphone it seems the volume scale is offset. As I increase the volume it gets louder like normal till I reach the last 2 or 3 clicks of reaching max volume then it's like it resets back to the lowest volume. With Bluetooth the volume increases like normal except the volume starts off really soft and stays soft even though it's getting louder. So, at max volume it's still hard to hear out of the Bluetooth headset. Third, I notice that symbols and text have kind of a rougher edge around them unlike before. It almost seems like my video card on my computer was dying. Fourth, is my apps don't seem to update/refresh as set in their settings. Seems like they don't update at all or they take longer than the set time to update. Please beware that these are just my personal experiences testing the roto jme upgrade firmware and am not in anyway bashing the firmware. This post is just to let others know what my experience is with the firmware. I will say again overall performance is in my opinion better than jk5.
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It seems that people have very different experience while using the same ROM.
I have not discovered yet any issues related to JME. Camera, browser, flash, audio, and everything else works just fine on US TM Tab. I did upgrade without formatting to Roto-JME and factory reset after that.
There is something that makes outcome so different.
Should note that I did not attempt any lag fixes and cpu tweaks. I don't run widgets and have no animation. I am on 802.11n wifi with cellular data turned off, GSM phone - on. I am interested in fast response and the Tab deliveres it.
The other thread has made me increasingly mental trying to find some decent information on what is working and what isn't working for SGS users upgrading to 2.3.2. I upgraded on Sunday evening without any issues and have been using it for the past 48hrs and have come across the following:
bad:
- no sip configuration options
- when integrated with MS exchange server, the unread count for emails never changes even after you read the mail
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
- no samsung apps available (probably because this isn't an official samsung release)
good:
- android market works fine for me in Switzerland
- GPS works well with all the different apps i have
- wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point
- FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
Overall I have been pleasantly surprised with this version. It's nice, although it's not an official release and is still leagues better than 2.1.x and 2.2. Would get a good argument from me about how it compares with 2.2.1..
gingerbread
its only a beta the official version will be better!
sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
sdolgy said:
... wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point...
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What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
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What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks
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Well, for me, I am not downloading torrents on my phone. When I want to download, via wifi, apps from the market or something with dropbox, the wifi isn't not letting me down. I think there's a disconnect between what the graphic is reporting and the actual level.
It's good because it still works and is functional and allows me to keep using this on a daily basis despite its status.
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its only a beta the official version will be better!
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no doubt. not at all complaining. just wanted to document on my side what was working and not working so that i can compare in the future or maybe someone has a suggestion .. like the one about my default internet browser and plugins.
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
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Plugin setting is configured to "on demand"
Swype don't work.
GPS no satellites found.
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
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well its very early to give impression but its memory hungry battery hungry proned to black outs but to be honest when the bits all run nicely its good ive been running it over 24 hours now apart from mentioned problems its smooth looking forward to updates maybeys they will change ui and give us a few of the gingerbread goodies we all wanted ie tv of --3d apps screen and so on if you go settings then about and repeatadly press on version 2.3.2 i think about ten presses see gingerbreads easter egg at least they left us that lol enjoy egg hunting
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Thats a good idea.. Not only might it help Samsung, but it will discourage people from running it (and later whinging).
i got it running for a few hours and i generally enjoyed it, but the keyboard has no bulgarian (well it have in the options but it does not work) and if you run out of ram you are screwed (the phone hangs or gets tooo slow ).
as said samsung apps doesn`t work and the gallery freezes very often...
i hate that samsung removed the fancy animations and the black menu bar....
There's like no gingerbread keyboard and launcher
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1-3D performance
It's not as good as it was on 2.2.1. If you test some 3D games like NFS Shift, you culd see that it doesnt run so well as it did on 2.2.1
Some people even reports that they can’t even run lot of 3D games.
2-GPS
There are reports of a good gps performance, but I have read somewhere that it's contanstly throwing some kind of errors or bugs, I don't know how to check that. I guess they know it thanks to logcat or something like that.
According to what I could read on another forum they changed lot of gps files nad not is very similar to the ones of Nexus S, that's a good thing...
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It’s also a shame that they didn’t include gingerboard keyboard…
PS: Some people might think that this thread isn’t useful, but as we are being kind of betatesters for Samsung it would be nice if we use this post only to report the most common bugs founds, so maybe Samsung could have a look at it and solve it faster.
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- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Try to use supercurio kernel with voodoo lagfix enabled and it should solve the problem. Works for me when I used to have same internet browser issue like you
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
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Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
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Same here, it was so slow till i had to restart my i9000.
I've been using it for the last two days now (one of them with Supercurio's Voodoo Hack) and I've been happy with it in some parts, but quite unhappy in others.
Lag:
First of all, it seems the "Lag" that was fixed in 2.2.1 is back. Especially with memory-Hungry applications like the Browser, the phone tends to just freeze up for a few minutes without really doing much. I even had to pull the battery one time. This does happen less with the voodoo-fix, but it's still noticeable. Flash also does barely work.
Gingerbread features:
The new Gyroscope-Driver seems to work and it works really well. Skymap and Starchart both looked a LOT better when using them, no fidgeting around all the time anymore.
The new Gingerbread animations are NOT present in this rom. It seems like Samsung thinks they don't fit into TouchWiz, which is a shame. So no glowing edges when overscrolling and no screen-off or screen-on animation.
3D Performance pretty much seems to be the same as on 2.2.1 Games load a little slower, but I think that's mostly because we're using an un-optimized kernel.
The Bluetooth-Driver unfortunately still is the same as in Previous versions. So Neither Wiiremote nor PS3 will pair with the SGS, unlike on Cyanogenmod.
Samsung-Stuff:
As was stated before, Swype does not work. However, I am in the Swype beta and was able to install the Beta of Swype into this rom after deleting the normal swype with root explorer. It works fine, even Voice input does work.
All in all, it is clear that this is beta-firmware and it doesn't really offer much in terms of improvement over 2.2.1, at least not yet. Cyanogenmod 7, even tho it supports less hardware and is more unstable, runs a LOT faster and smoother than this, is more customizable and uses more of the new Gingerbread features.
For now, I'll be going back to 2.2.1, it's more useful as a daily driver, but this at least looks promising so far.
Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
Well considering this is a beta it seems alot of the features that are suppose to be in the final build are here left out. That will give the reason for quite some things missing ( some animations, effects, lock screens, keyboards....) Plus also cause of the beta build maybe even alpha who knows, the performance for me is really bad, it feels twice as laggy compared to the 2.2.1 releases. All in all this build is an striped down, not optimized build for the samsung devs i guess. We will have to wait for a better build leak. Cheers !
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Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
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Agreed, I switched back to JS5, but for the moment I'm keeping JVE modem. It performs WAY better for me. No random UMTS-disconnects.
But as others said, it's just a beta.
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FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
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Is it stereo ?
So I installed it yesterday (and thanks to all those who helped).
I think the new ROM is FANTASTIC. Everything works for me, its faster than before and I have no lags. Im using Launcher Pro because the new Blur doesn't support scrolling widgets.
Battery is definitely better (turned on at 6am and had 15% at 6pn which us amazing for me).
Camera has been improved. Pictures look sharper and the colors no longer look weird. I owned an sgs2 and to me the pictures are just as good (and definitely better than the Sensation I owned for a bit). Its also much faster (put it in sport mode and virtually immediate).
Fingerprint reader works. Properly. Period.
Sound on speaker is excellent. Its still the best device on the market.
Sound on earpiece might be a little quieter. I am not certain on this but its something I noticed on my first call.
Gps lock is very quick. It was before too.
Software. Wow what a MASSIVE improvement. Email software is finally useable readable and possibly as good as Sense. Widgets are also better, like weather. Photo software and gallery better. MUSIC is a different application totally. I think I preferred the old one or just need to get used to it. Dialer is improved. Video playback is still great and again an area where this device excels over others I have owned. Animations also very cool. Top bar and notifications simply better than before. Entire color scheme is improved.
Stock keyboard is better but I still make a lot of mistakes when typing. HTC still make the best Android keyboard IMHO and I wish I could port the Sensation keyboard.
Overall its just more elegant and mire pleasurable ti use. For the first time I feel like its a device to show off. I really believe its the best device out there. Had Moto started out with this ROM it would have been considered a device as good as the HD2 in its day.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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After one day on gingerbread, I'd have to say the keyboard's the biggest improvement for me. An @ key without having to press alt first? Yes! Long press keys for numbers? Yes!
I agree. It's a fantastic upgrade and the new skin is slick....my only complaint is that homescreen scrolling isn't as fast as I expected. The forest LWP is a little slow, and pinch to zoom on stock camera gallery isn't as good as my previous phone or 3rd party market apps
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its is an amazing difference
before making the plunge I wud like to know from u guys about the screen gradient issues
is it solved??
like skin tones appeared really odd and washed out
I thot it was a software issue as the screen grabs also showed them on my PC
that was a big gripe for me but for the otherwise near perfect phone
and ya camera quality was also really poor
Are you talking about kenns?
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dunno whom u are asking but am still on froyo
wud love to hear that screen issues are solved
leaving aside the pentile issue as SGS also has pentile but looked better
Battery life is the biggest improvement forvmr
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I freakin love the new ROM. Thanks KP!
They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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Even if the color scheme didnt change its 10 times better. Im tired of the complaints about the phone, go get a different one and/or dont complain about this one. We dont care to hear it.
Loving the new rom so far. I do think the cardock app got worse (looks better, but fewer custom buttons). I love how you can uninstall apps using a long press from the app drawer.
I'm also looking forward to trying the ignore call, respond with text option.
Last thing, wish the default music app worked with Google Music Beta... installed the Google one instead.
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Overall, this seems to be working pretty fantastically for me except for a few things.
- Contact List can get REALLY slow sometimes. (15 seconds to load up a contact's information!)
- Unlocking (the screen, not the phone) can get slow, as well as Facebook and a few other apps. Haven't fully tested yet.
Is this happening to anyone else?
So far, i'm loving the new blur, everything is working fine for me.but i hope this is not the final blur version, because i was watching a demo of blur for droid3 on youtube it looks a little bit better then this. The swipe between screens was different and the quick contact widget was different and more useful.
are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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I'm pretty sure is not talking about the ken release.
ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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You only hard brick if you try to do the OTA. If you use kennethpenn's method using CWM with an unlocked bootloader you'll have no problem.
This is really a heads-up to people thinking of trying one of the many (and generally, excellent) 2.3.4 ROMs cooked up in this forum.
There's a fudge, which works fairly well, which uses brute force (ie, the CPU) to handle the scrolling, but this will obviously have a significant effect on battery life since it's a job which the GPU does very well, but the CPU struggles with. Equally, it leaves less brainpower available for page rendering so you will notice issues with Flash, especially if you try to scroll around the page at the same time.
This affects the smoothness of both the scrolling in the browser and the double-tap-to-zoom functionality, and as yet there is no ideal fix. There are two solutions, neither of them perfect:
1) Download one of the custom firmware images and accept that the browser will be laggy compared to 2.3.3.
OR
2) Download the original, leaked, 2.3.4 firmware and use that. Should be fine. You can root it without a problem, but you're going to say goodbye to themes and many of the brilliant improvements put in by the chefs. "Lag-free" means that it's usable and nothing else.
This isn't mentioned in any of the firmware description threads, and if, like me, the silky smooth scrolling of the browser is a key point it's worth bearing in mind and holding off for the time being. No doubt a solution will be found.
Edit: Title corrected as suggested. Specifically, it's de-odexed firmware that encounters this issue.
Well I did point out to the masses that this was a test firmware and was never meant to be released to the public. Issues like this is to be expected.
Absolutely, IntraTech, but most people's experience is that leaked firmware works perfectly well and for the most part this is true. Having said that, whether this can be fixed at all even with the full release is questionable.
I loathe anything to do with ODEXing.
For reference, the original thread where people are working hell-for-leather to solve the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163285
Great info. That is why I am staying with 2.3.3
Am I really the only one hoping they'll get rid of hardware acceleration in the official 2.3.4 firmware ?
I think it's better without HW rendering. OK it's not as smooth but at least you can resize the page in real time (instead of zooming on a picture of the page, creating an ugly mess of pixels) and scroll as fast as you want without seeing a checkered background while the browser is struggling to render the page.
I've flashed the original leaked KG1, rooted with CF and replace the kernel with the one from Cognition v1.13, so far so good. You loose theming, powermenu, but I care more about battery life and user experience. I have removed all the samsung apps (except for the Social Hub + IM, which I find quite usefull), not too much time for testing the battery life but durin a whole night with screen off, wifi on(switched off by screen off I suppose) and data and sync enable on 3 email accounts and 3 social accounts, I lost 3%, seems quite good for me.
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Am I really the only one hoping they'll get rid of hardware acceleration in the official 2.3.4 firmware ?
I think it's better without HW rendering. OK it's not as smooth but at least you can resize the page in real time (instead of zooming on a picture of the page, creating an ugly mess of pixels) and scroll as fast as you want without seeing a checkered background while the browser is struggling to render the page.
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yes I think you're the only one in the world, or maybe one of the few people hoping that and for sure you will not be happy because it's pretty sure this will not happen. The strong key of the galaxy s 2 is definely the browser and its smoothness.
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Am I really the only one hoping they'll get rid of hardware acceleration in the official 2.3.4 firmware ?
I think it's better without HW rendering. OK it's not as smooth but at least you can resize the page in real time (instead of zooming on a picture of the page, creating an ugly mess of pixels) and scroll as fast as you want without seeing a checkered background while the browser is struggling to render the page.
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i hate of lag.rather seeing checkboards.and it s not as bad as you said.
why the panic? everyone should be well aware of what has gone on here, alternatively just use a third party browser...
Personally speaking I would want to see all HW acceleration turned on for everything.
In reference to this issue I wouldn't invest too much time trying to fix it as the official 2.3.4 release may not even have this problem.
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why the panic? everyone should be well aware of what has gone on here, alternatively just use a third party browser...
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+1.
Im pretty sure other improvements outweighs the laggy browser. And come on, do we flash a ROM because we're going use the stock browser? I do flash a ROM because I want my phone to be functional/stable, not because of the browser
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Personally speaking I would want to see all HW acceleration turned on for everything.
In reference to this issue I wouldn't invest too much time trying to fix it as the official 2.3.4 release may not even have this problem.
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The problem is not in the firmware itself. The stock kg1 has no problem with the browser but it happens on deodexed roms
Since kf1 we've had this problem solved using an older version of the browser or removing part of hw acceleration. Now both tweaks don't work and the chefs have to turn off hw acceleration at all
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Exactly because of this reason, i'm sporting the stock since 2.3.4. Browser is an important thing for me and lag on it is not acceptable. Won't trade it for themes.
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The problem is not in the firmware itself. The stock kg1 has no problem with the browser but it happens on deodexed roms
Since kf1 we've had this problem solved using an older version of the browser or removing part of hw acceleration. Now both tweaks don't work and the chefs have to turn off hw acceleration at all
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I know the issue is not with the firmware itself was just thinking that maybe when 2.3.4 finally gets released it may have a more up to date browser which can be deodexed and keep all the acceleration turned on.
This is the biggest reason why I never keep a custom 2.3.4 rom on for long because the browser is very laggy.
Given time I am sure all these bugs will be addressed.
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Exactly because of this reason, i'm sporting the stock since 2.3.4. Browser is an important thing for me and lag on it is not acceptable. Won't trade it for themes.
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That's not true. Odwxed roms could be themed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154278
Here you'll find various themes for stock odexed kg1
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I know the issue is not with the firmware itself was just thinking that maybe when 2.3.4 finally gets released it may have a more up to date browser which can be deodexed and keep all the acceleration turned on.
This is the biggest reason why I never keep a custom 2.3.4 rom on for long because the browser is very laggy.
Given time I am sure all these bugs will be addressed.
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Yes but it seems you haven't understood. The problem is here since kf1. Last usable was ke2
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Yes but it seems you haven't understood. The problem is here since kf1. Last usable was ke2
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Ahh cool I misunderstood... learnt something new
Also could Samsung be doing this on purpose to make the experience 'lesser' on a custom rom?
Yeah I flashed Cognition 1.13 last night and I was wondering why the browser was a bit choppier... guess I'll revert back to 2.3.3 and wait. Opera Mobile is still a great alternative though =)
The title is misleading: Stock 2.3.4's browser doesn't have the slightest problem.
The claim that stock ROM can't be themed is totally false too. Just look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154278
The custom ROMs at this point include only small tweaks and custom skins, all of which can be applied manually to stock ROM. There's really no compelling reason to flash anything but stock ROM at this point anyway. Unless CM7 gets released, it'll likely stay this way.
leomar rom is 2.3.4 and have the hw acceleration in browser
Hello,
- Why Samsung does not publish the android 3.2 ?
I have a lag with galaxy tab 10.1
- Samsung plans to do something, will solve the problem?
thank you for your help
Last I heard it would be second quarter 201mumblemumblenever.
What is 3.2 supposed to give us?
Just my opinion, but I doubt you will ever see 3.2 on the tab, as stated in the post above. With the next version of android a little over a month away I doubt very much that Samsung is going to waste $ on developing an update that will be extinct in such a short time. Then again, all we have are rumors on ICS.
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Hello,
- Why Samsung does not publish the android 3.2 ?
I have a lag with galaxy tab 10.1
- Samsung plans to do something, will solve the problem?
thank you for your help
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Just flash my rom. Your lag will be gone.
task650 said:
Just flash my rom. Your lag will be gone.
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I can vouch for that
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You mean download the GT P7500 rom (I am using P7500) and flash it in my GT?
That will reduce the lag by some amount?
Which type of lag exactly are we talking about here? I see lag in some areas, but not others. For instance, I can switch home screens without lag, however in some text boxes, there is significant lag that prevents me from efficiently editing text, especially when I'm using Swype (unfortunately, because I love Swype). Also, in some apps, Swype performs very well, and other times it does not.
So, could you be more specific with where you're experiencing lag? There may be a solution besides flashing a custom ROM (not that I think that's a bad idea either, just a little bit more work).
As far as Google Android Honeycomb 3.2, I don't know if that will happen or not. I tweeted Samsung about it, and got a less-than-stellar response.
https://twitter.com/#!/SamsungSupport/status/117664881280425984
For archival purposes, a copy of the quote: "@SamsungSupport
Samsung Support
@pcgeek86 Trevor, Currently we don't have any information but when we do we'll let our customers know. Thanks! ^Jess"
Additionally, the developer of Starburst ROM for the Galaxy Tab 10.1" said that he's working on a port of Honeycomb 3.2:
https://twitter.com/#!/JonathanAlvey51/status/117772837544140800
We will probably see Ice Cream Sandwich instead of 3.2.
Thank you for your answers
Not good samsung
Not good at tracking software
Iconia tab a500 has tracking software and android 3.2
Sony S has tracking software and android 3.2
What exactly is tracking software? I had a GT, traded it in for a Sony S, couldn't sleep at night, and just exchanged it for another GT. Nothing too special about 3.2, you could stretch apps that weren't made for tabs..
Probably CarrierIQ
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What exactly is tracking software? I had a GT, traded it in for a Sony S, couldn't sleep at night, and just exchanged it for another GT. Nothing too special about 3.2, you could stretch apps that weren't made for tabs..
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How was the Sony S? Anything special?
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How was the Sony S? Anything special?
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faster web browser and less lag with same processor and RAM .
Please...Why do we think we are entitled to everything..I would rather the forgo 3.2 for Ice cream sanwhich and have a full OS upgrade rather the a minor updated.
Not me.
Especially when it comes to repair major problems such as lags
I feel that majors conccurents, are more reactive and present
my lag is panning from home screen to home screen. it stutters when switching home screens. I did a factory reset and it still lags or stutters.
nuprotocol said:
my lag is panning from home screen to home screen. it stutters when switching home screens. I did a factory reset and it still lags or stutters.
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Try clicking the + symbol top right corner, then click other, then click home button, see if swiping lag improves.
Or you can try one of the launchers, like adw ex. Improves lag on homescreens.
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Try clicking the + symbol top right corner, then click other, then click home button, see if swiping lag improves.
Or you can try one of the launchers, like adw ex. Improves lag on homescreens.
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thanks for the tip, didn't improve it but it was worth a try. My g/f's Tab pan's fine. Hers is really smooth an doesn't have any panning issues, or opening and closing apps. I'm not sure whats wrong with mine. Is this common with 3.1 or could it be something wrong with my Tab? I just want panning to be smooth and opening/closing apps.
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I know I could use a different launcher. But I want to stick with the stock one.
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