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Why should we update?

Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!

fRenZy-_- said:
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.

much better SQ out of headphone jack

justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?

****ing awesome battery life!

fRenZy-_- said:
is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.

aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?

Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.

Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.

seh6183 said:
Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.

aszrael1266 said:
I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

seh6183 said:
Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..

The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.

I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.

What's the point if upgrading to 2.34 right now?

I am a serial ROM junkie BUT I am still in the sidelines on this one. Having read through most of the posts I still can't see what going to the beta Gingerbread achieves. Does it do anything better than the stock 2.2 which is so stable?
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I feel the same way. My atrix is my only phone so I will just watch here with interest but wait for Motorola to do it's thing....I hope.

Of course it is fun to play with, but I have gone back to 1.83. It is my only phone and the rom made for Hong Kong phones is just to buggy for every day use IMHO. They have made great progress in removing a lot of the bugs, but it is just not ready for prime time yet. If I had a backup phone I would be all over it, but as it will be coming soon I believe. I can wait.

It's been my daily driver since day one and no real complaints especially with navalynt's fixes and eye candies rolled into a flashable zip. There's a few things it does that I like. Music beta, portrait to landscape animation, crt animation when locking, etc. Fingerprint scanner is all I'm lacking and I know its just a matter of time. Don't blame ya for holding off, but as a fellow junkie I am a bit surprised =D
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Are there ANY benefits to the beta? Can someone list what they are? Speed? Camera? Battery? Software (and which apps)?
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I've been using 2.3.4 since it was released here with tutorials on how to install. I used _unknown's method. I have seen no real benefits, other than having an unlocked bootloader and a recovery I can boot into anytime I want. However IMO it is stable enough to use daily... battery life is about the same, and my phones been on with no restarts for a little over 48 hrs. The only way to appreciate all the work these devs have been doing is to try it out yourself
And I would like to thank xda for hosting a forum with an endless amount of useful knowledge for all the smart phones I've had in the last 2-3 years.
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I use it just to educate myself on the new fastboot stuff and try things out, get familiar with new layouts, etc. Education, experimentation. Seems like the wrong place to hang out if you're not into those things.

I agree with what both of you said. I love this forum and I do tinker with my device.
Just want to know, is any of the software improved / faster or better?

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Are there ANY benefits to the beta? Can someone list what they are? Speed? Camera? Battery? Software (and which apps)?
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Speed test wise is a bit better but this thing is such a beast its hard to see it. Camera app had a real overhaul and I love it! Battery, like above poster , seems the same. Software being gingerbread is more about cosmetics and I'm very happy in that regard ... it's pretty sexy I'm back to using launcher pro + for now but the moto-blur UI looks great. So good in fact I just started using LP+ recently. That's a big statement being as I slapped gingerblur P-ROM on the day I purchased the ATRIX!
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dubyajaysmith said:
It's been my daily driver since day one and no real complaints especially with navalynt's fixes and eye candies rolled into a flashable zip. There's a few things it does that I like. Music beta, portrait to landscape animation, crt animation when locking, etc. Fingerprint scanner is all I'm lacking and I know its just a matter of time. Don't blame ya for holding off, but as a fellow junkie I am a bit surprised =D
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Pretty much this for me, if they get the fingerprint scanner working I'll be a happy camper

the only bug i have noticied with the phone is that the FP scanner doesn't work, and the FFC appears sideways (but is normal when videochatting to the person on the other end).
the build is noticeably faster and smoother for me for animations, especially the 3d-cube and cylindrical app transitions on Go Launcher EX. the screen transitions for open-close and vertical-horizontal are pretty nice too since froyo lacks them. once i installed all the 'fixes' that devs have come up with, i see no reason to go back to Froyo, as I can live without the FP scanner for now, and videochatting with the FFC is fine. oh yeah, and i freakin LOVE the CRT shutoff animation.
oh yeah, and the new battery use meter system is pretty freakin' cool.

I moved back to 2.2.1 from 2.3.4 since I had horrible battery life on the HKTW 2.3.4 beta build! Other than that, I have to say it is way faster and smoother than 2.2.1!

speed, battery life, those were arbitrarily the same for me..
two of my fav noticeable improvements are:
1.) ability to clear notifications from your bar one by one instead of having to clear them all.
2.) being able to boot straight into CWM w/o a charger
3.) finally fixed the slow market download speeds!!!

2.3.4 is insanely fast compared to stock. Once you take the tome to fix the small bugs it's a really good everyday rom.
On 2.3.4 I get almost the same battery life with push email and no battery conservation as I did in 2.2.2 with everything turned off. There is no wakeup lag or random pauses like before. At first it seemed like it drained battery but After a couple days when my battery had calibrated itself this were normal.
So far the only bugs I have are the funky front facing camera and I can't sync my exchange account.nmy phone no longer heats up as much as before.
I am running launcher pro and havent disable blur yet and it's super fast. For comparison 2.2.2 with launcher pro and no blur was still slow.
It's completely changed my views of the Atrix, except for the screen.

joeryu said:
speed, battery life, those were arbitrarily the same for me..
two of my fav noticeable improvements are:
1.) ability to clear notifications from your bar one by one instead of having to clear them all.
2.) being able to boot straight into CWM w/o a charger
3.) finally fixed the slow market download speeds!!!
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3.) Did they, seriously?! Side by side on the same game download & on the same router, my (beloved) N1 used to download at least 3X faster.. Now, that's an improvement if they fixed it!
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Vangelis13 said:
3.) Did they, seriously?! Side by side on the same game download & on the same router, my (beloved) N1 used to download at least 3X faster.. Now, that's an improvement if they fixed it!
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They did indeed. When I'm on wifi now at home I get full 1.5 MB a second market download speeds where as before I swore it never went above 250-300 kb / sec. Even on 3g the market finally takes advantage of the full bandwidth. I had to test downloading big game apks as regular apps kept finishing before I can even check the speeds

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They did indeed. When I'm on wifi now at home I get full 1.5 MB a second market download speeds where as before I swore it never went above 250-300 kb / sec. Even on 3g the market finally takes advantage of the full bandwidth. I had to test downloading big game apks as regular apps kept finishing before I can even check the speeds
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Brilliant!
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On 2.3.4 I get almost the same battery life with push email and no battery conservation as I did in 2.2.2 with everything turned off.
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So far the only bugs I have are the funky front facing camera and I can't sync my exchange account.nmy phone no longer heats up as much as before...
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No Exchange syncing = one less push email account. That's probably why battery life seems the same for you. Mine is noticeably worse.
Unless you didn't use Exchange push in 2.2.2, in which case forget this post.

stewartsoda said:
No Exchange syncing = one less push email account. That's probably why battery life seems the same for you. Mine is noticeably worse.
Unless you didn't use Exchange push in 2.2.2, in which case forget this post.
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I didn't use exchange or gmail push, or even fetch in 2.2
Right now my battery is 10% lower at the end of my work night following my same usage habits. 2.3.4 seems to be much more efficient with memory management as well.

I can do without fingerprint scanner and the front facing camera, this ROM is definitely better than 2.2 froyo. Now I feel like I own a dual core phone.I am unlocked and can't wait to flash an American optimized ROM!
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Xperia X10... How BAD can it be?!

In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?

I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else

What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?

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I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...

ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.

clixt said:
I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.

Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.

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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.

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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.

clixt said:
Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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What were the colors originally
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.

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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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OmegaRED^ said:
It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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Just got an automatic software update for XXLQ2, Orange UK.

I turned my phone on earlier to find an automatic software update notification. So I downloaded it and installed it and it turned out to be ICS XXLQ2. Fantastic.
I have to say the phone is so much smoother now, I am using Go Launcher which was always quite laggy when swiping through home screens, now with ICS it is as smooth as butter.
Also love the new transitions between apps. The colour banding seems to be so much better too, although it's still not quite perfect. For example, my blue Go lock screen had terrible banding, really terrible, but now it's perfect. The bad colour banding on the backgrounds of angry birds has also disapeared. But on some of my own photos it is still there although not quite as bad.
Loving all the little tweaks, like the new swipe to close task manager, writing with the spen in s note is much smoother and more responsive. S Note is great. Apps open much faster.
Overall a great improvement to GB.

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Give it a couple of days to see what you think. I was not impressed with the battery life, the number of crashes or that the phone got so hot in my pocket it was uncomfortable.

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I posted something asking if it was ics, then reread and realised it was.
As this kernel is outside of the lp lot, are you willing to try wipe by wipe to establish if it's affected? Just kidding, certainly not worth it but hopefully this has the emmc bug written out.
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Who's happy with the new update -I am

Hi
Got my update today on generic UK and I am really impressed
Have seen a lot of people moaning that the update didn't come out quick enough
Loving the new improvements, wow camera start up time is amazing now
Loving the new themes
Walkman app sounds better without clear audio enabled now using external amp
New email client is nice and loving the new keyboard
Overall I am very impressed
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Yeah I think. 4.3 is great on the z.feels like an upgrade should
Sony Ericsson w800,LG viewty,Nokia 5800,HTC wildfire,HTC desire s,Motorola xoom,nexus 7,nexus 4,Xperia z,nexus 7 2

It's awesome although the ram is less free now but still
I liked the new camera app plus the add-on and the new task for the volume keys and I hated how we can't view and delete the photo within the camera app without going to albums
I liked the new awesome keyboard but also I hate that we can't unchecke the Chinese language
The new phone app is cool
The brightness quick setting is something needed for long time hopefully they will do the same with sounds
that's about it for now
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Amazing especially with existenze rom. Smooth as butter :thumbup:
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not all that happy would have benn if they had the feature to move apps to sd like in other 4.3 updates like s4,s3 etc

The only, though a major dissapointment that I found was the deterioration of the camera quality. Initially, XZ was hated for it's low light photos but after the last 4.2.2 update, the camera worked like a charm and had me on my toes for very good noise reduction even in superior auto mode.
And I am very dissapointed that again in 4.3 there is a lot of noise in relatively low light photos. I don't like the automatic ISO it sets for the photographs (in Superior Auto mode). Apart from that, clicking a photo via volume keys is simply wonderful and enables us to finally take waters underwater.

I like it.

Anyone else's run a lot cooler? Mine gets no where near as hot.
Menus run smoother, not a fan of the new keyboard so switched out to the regular Google one. Love the white. Battery seems similar to previously. Love the brightness and throw quick settings. Camera app is better although I'm disappointed at no Time shift burst.

50% happy. Of 50% unhappy.

Not really happy with it, no improvement much that i can tell. I don't like the bright white settings menu, it seems like more boring plain themes, the camera no long has any quality options , same with video , i have less choice now.
So far disappointed

the new keyboard is godly, does anyone know if it is possible to extract it and make an apk out of it? or does anyone have any tips on how to start?

Mixed feelings for me, having the Suspend_backoff Wakelock (Android OS battery drain) but overall smoothness and performance has improved, We have almost the same features as the Z1 now and for that I don't really envy the Z1 anymore. Camera is better in someways (like the volume button can be used as shutter) but I do agree somehow quality isn't like how it used to be.

digitallysick said:
the camera no long has any quality options , same with video , i have less choice now.
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no quality options? I am sure you haven't check out the manual mode yet.

Overall liking it so far
Except for the known WiFi issue for people using SW2
Which renders the watch useless, So much for Smart Watches lol

Best update so far.
Been using Sony / Sony Ericsson phones since the Xperia Arc S and the 4.3 update is ,IMO the best update from Sony so far.
The smoothest UI experience I have ever had with a Sony phone.
Having said that, I agree with gerickjohn regarding the wakelock issue. Used Grenify to hibernate lots of apps (including system apps) as well as system tuner and xposed boot manager to prevent apps on boot and unused processes. Still uses about 1% per hour on standby which is quite a bit more than on 4.2.2 (1% per 3-4 hours). Not a huge drain, but I prefer to reserve the battery for when I'm actually using the phone.
Camera has never been the best on the XZ so wasn't expecting much anyway.
P.S Does anyone know if Grenifying the wrong system apps can actually cause more battery drain? i.e apps that keep trying to start everytime they are hibernated?
Edit: I think I may have fixed the Android OS wakelock by disabling auto backup/restore and deleting the "gmail extension" in dashclock.
gerickjohn said:
Mixed feelings for me, having the Suspend_backoff Wakelock (Android OS battery drain) but overall smoothness and performance has improved, We have almost the same features as the Z1 now and for that I don't really envy the Z1 anymore. Camera is better in someways (like the volume button can be used as shutter) but I do agree somehow quality isn't like how it used to be.
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One thing that made me wanna buy this Xperia Z is the ability to capture good pictures in low-light condition. But after this update, the quality is very poor. Even Oppo Find 5 (chinese branded phone) can takes better pictures than my Xperia Z in low light condition. It's a shame...

I am about to update my phone soon (UK unbranded), but at the same time I am a bit sceptical about the change of the keyboard? I don't really understand what people mean by the new layout & I have searched around but not enough information on it.
Can anyone let me know if the T9 (predictive text) is still there with the old style keypad? I don't like using the qwerty board - I make too many mistakes despite having small fingers! A screenshot would be most helpful! Thanks

SalamiQueen said:
I am about to update my phone soon (UK unbranded), but at the same time I am a bit sceptical about the change of the keyboard? I don't really understand what people mean by the new layout & I have searched around but not enough information on it.
Can anyone let me know if the T9 (predictive text) is still there with the old style keypad? I don't like using the qwerty board - I make too many mistakes despite having small fingers! A screenshot would be most helpful! Thanks
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It's great dont worry, before the update i was using swiftykey and now I'm using the default keyboard and im happy with it
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app

Zewarxx said:
It's great dont worry, before the update i was using swiftykey and now I'm using the default keyboard and im happy with it
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app
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Thank you
So it's just visually a little different, just more rounded edges?
I thought it was all squashed up to one side from what I heard.
Will update now then!

Rooting
Struggling to root my phone with 4.3? Anyone have any advice or is there a new guide?
Regards,