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For those concerned about Vibrant's speed

I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!

I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.

No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.

How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).

zephiK said:
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.

After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I see what you did there...
Sent from mah fone.

LAG FIX IN 10MINS........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.

Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.

kizer said:
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.

Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!

kizer said:
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".

JMC Firmware - Quick Review

Hey guys,
So I've recently come across the JMC rom like most of you out there.
I know there are a lot of users out there new to the flashing scene and more importantly they are unsure of where to begin despite all the guides out there.
I did however also want to give a quick overview.Of what I've seen so far in in JMC having started on stock Bell firmware and then going to JPK5, then JM6, JMA, and then recently moving on to JMC. Currently I'm using Roto-JMC on a JMA Base,
For most new people, or people afraid or unsure of whether to flash here is a really quick breakdown of what I've seen changed, improved so far since JM6, JMA:
Pros:
-Fastest ROM yet
-Smoother browser, smooth enough infact for me to delete Miren after doing extensive comparisons in performance.
-Smoother drop down bar (has its quirks)
-Great performance in TWUi
-Email app appears to be working flawlessly now
-No more issues with Screen timeout
-No more jagged browsing experience like in Bell Stock firmware
-Gallery app is silky silky smooth even when browsing 2.5 gb of pictures.
-Browser multi-touch, two finger zoom has improved vastly
-Full Bluetooth HID support (compared to Stock Bell Firmware) which means full keyboard/mouse support!
Cons:
-Performance on drop down depends on running tasks (but its 100%+ better than in Stock Bell Firmware)
-Had issues with update, so had to restore defaults which was for the better anyways
-No updated Market App (quick fix)
-Swype still not scaling properly (Lol.. pm me for how to fix that if you must)
-Still no Pinch to zoom in Dolphin HD
Untested/Unknown:
-Batterylife affected?
-DPI issues as others have reported
-Performance improvement with OLFC (for tab) untested yet
Comments:
Having HEAVILY used Stock Bell and JMA, since I use my tab at work.. I will say, the browser performance in this build truly blew my mind. It was so much better than stock. Having compared 2 tabs, one Bell Stock and JMC I am absolutely stunned at the difference when browsing sites like Engadget or Gizmodo. The multi-touch to zoom support is so much better in this build, it feels so smooth and more reactive than before. Its not perfect, not yet... But soon.
Samsung devs are really getting there. Really noticeable performance with UI and drop down, I have a feeling in a few more builds it will be almost perfect.
In the end, this all made me happy because I love my tab even more now! Hope this helps anyone out there wondering on whether or not to flash.
As for JMC vs JMD.. No real feedback from the community yet on JMD so I'll give JMD a run down after a few days of testing in order to make sure I get a good amount of experience.

Thanks for your insight! Happy Holidays!
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Great review! Also, does this firmware fix the multi-touch issues with the dolphin hd browser that plagued earlier European firmwares?

caveman999 said:
Great review! Also, does this firmware fix the multi-touch issues with the dolphin hd browser that plagued earlier European firmwares?
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Give me a brief description of the issue and I'll test this immediately.

caveman999 said:
Great review! Also, does this firmware fix the multi-touch issues with the dolphin hd browser that plagued earlier European firmwares?
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No. Still no pinch zoom in dolphin.

a1jatt said:
No. Still no pinch zoom in dolphin.
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Updated above with added information.
Thanks!

great initiative. Fully agree with your pros and cons. Still think that the browser could be faster though.
Also still waiting on a 2.2.1 update (the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1 made a great difference for the Galaxy S series)
BTW love your avatar. Is Steve really juggling 4 perfect sized tablets You gotta love his skills

a1jatt said:
No. Still no pinch zoom in dolphin.
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Pinch to zoom works fine for me in dolphin and I'm only on jj7.

nice review TY

Norwegian languange
Hi, can someone please tell me wether JMC includes norwegian swype input or not?
Merry christmas to all btw!

Same for me, i got a stock update from kies to jj7, dolphin works fine.
The fixed browser slowdown on busy sites is appealing, but im waiting for a ROM with no cons before i bother to upgrade.
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appelflap said:
great initiative. Fully agree with your pros and cons. Still think that the browser could be faster though.
Also still waiting on a 2.2.1 update (the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1 made a great difference for the Galaxy S series)
BTW love your avatar. Is Steve really juggling 4 perfect sized tablets You gotta love his skills
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Thanks for your feedback!
I do believe the browser could be faster but there is honestly no smoother alternative at the moment. The browser in JMC is faster than both miren and dolphin by a bit at this point but not faster or smoother than opera but we all know how weird opera rendering really is.
Remember though these are all Dev builds at the moment so we should see some improvement in the next few builds.
As for the avatar hahaha its actually an ipad he's holding like that so its editted to show him holding what the ipad really is!

crippleb0y said:
Hi, can someone please tell me wether JMC includes norwegian swype input or not?
Merry christmas to all btw!
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Hello!
I'm currently not using swype from JMC if not I'd test this and give you feedback immediatley. I'm currently using swype from a different build since it has the landscape mode fixed and this version only supports EFIGSD languages plus the Asian laungauges.
Maybe someone else who is using stock JMC can give you some feedback.
Cheers

grechy said:
Same for me, i got a stock update from kies to jj7, dolphin works fine.
The fixed browser slowdown on busy sites is appealing, but im waiting for a ROM with no cons before i bother to upgrade.
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No such thing as no cons. Despite any cons JMC may have the performance increase is astounding when compared to stock.
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Agreed. Jmc is so much better to pass because of dolphine pinch zoom issue for me. There are alternatives I can use for browsers, but not when it comes to perf and stability.

an update from me. i was flashed to jm6 no screen timeout issue then flash to roto-jmc no timeout issue at the begging but today it started suddenly. i can fix it by changing timeout duration for several times after device restarts but issue is still there.

kromosto said:
an update from me. i was flashed to jm6 no screen timeout issue then flash to roto-jmc no timeout issue at the begging but today it started suddenly. i can fix it by changing timeout duration for several times after device restarts but issue is still there.
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Haven't had this issue at all actually.
Are you using Spare parts?

seven2099 said:
Haven't had this issue at all actually.
Are you using Spare parts?
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no dont have spareparts and never had. this is a weird situation for me, as i said jm6 i dont have after upgrade to roto-jmc i dont have the issue but after 3 days of roto-jmc usage it started suddenly while i was looking for a good ebook reader and trying the ones in the market. i think the issue is there in the jmc rom too and waiting for something to trigger it.

seven2099 said:
No such thing as no cons. Despite any cons JMC may have the performance increase is astounding when compared to stock.
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Edit: nevermind, just used roto's firmware package and updated to JMC. Not only does it look less garish, it is definitely much smoother so far. Thanks

Does anyone else have ebooks force closing on startup on jmc?
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First Impressions: [ROM][2.3.2] I9000XWJV1 (GINGERBREAD) for Galaxy S

The other thread has made me increasingly mental trying to find some decent information on what is working and what isn't working for SGS users upgrading to 2.3.2. I upgraded on Sunday evening without any issues and have been using it for the past 48hrs and have come across the following:
bad:
- no sip configuration options
- when integrated with MS exchange server, the unread count for emails never changes even after you read the mail
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
- no samsung apps available (probably because this isn't an official samsung release)
good:
- android market works fine for me in Switzerland
- GPS works well with all the different apps i have
- wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point
- FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
Overall I have been pleasantly surprised with this version. It's nice, although it's not an official release and is still leagues better than 2.1.x and 2.2. Would get a good argument from me about how it compares with 2.2.1..

gingerbread
its only a beta the official version will be better!

sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?

sdolgy said:
... wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point...
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What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks

felleese said:
What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks
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Well, for me, I am not downloading torrents on my phone. When I want to download, via wifi, apps from the market or something with dropbox, the wifi isn't not letting me down. I think there's a disconnect between what the graphic is reporting and the actual level.
It's good because it still works and is functional and allows me to keep using this on a daily basis despite its status.

jnks123 said:
its only a beta the official version will be better!
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no doubt. not at all complaining. just wanted to document on my side what was working and not working so that i can compare in the future or maybe someone has a suggestion .. like the one about my default internet browser and plugins.
cicer0 said:
Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
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Plugin setting is configured to "on demand"

Swype don't work.
GPS no satellites found.
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
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well its very early to give impression but its memory hungry battery hungry proned to black outs but to be honest when the bits all run nicely its good ive been running it over 24 hours now apart from mentioned problems its smooth looking forward to updates maybeys they will change ui and give us a few of the gingerbread goodies we all wanted ie tv of --3d apps screen and so on if you go settings then about and repeatadly press on version 2.3.2 i think about ten presses see gingerbreads easter egg at least they left us that lol enjoy egg hunting

g00ndu said:
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
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Thats a good idea.. Not only might it help Samsung, but it will discourage people from running it (and later whinging).

i got it running for a few hours and i generally enjoyed it, but the keyboard has no bulgarian (well it have in the options but it does not work) and if you run out of ram you are screwed (the phone hangs or gets tooo slow ).
as said samsung apps doesn`t work and the gallery freezes very often...
i hate that samsung removed the fancy animations and the black menu bar....

There's like no gingerbread keyboard and launcher
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1-3D performance
It's not as good as it was on 2.2.1. If you test some 3D games like NFS Shift, you culd see that it doesnt run so well as it did on 2.2.1
Some people even reports that they can’t even run lot of 3D games.
2-GPS
There are reports of a good gps performance, but I have read somewhere that it's contanstly throwing some kind of errors or bugs, I don't know how to check that. I guess they know it thanks to logcat or something like that.
According to what I could read on another forum they changed lot of gps files nad not is very similar to the ones of Nexus S, that's a good thing...
3-Keyboard
It’s also a shame that they didn’t include gingerboard keyboard…
PS: Some people might think that this thread isn’t useful, but as we are being kind of betatesters for Samsung it would be nice if we use this post only to report the most common bugs founds, so maybe Samsung could have a look at it and solve it faster.

sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Try to use supercurio kernel with voodoo lagfix enabled and it should solve the problem. Works for me when I used to have same internet browser issue like you

Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos

hiraj_panosian said:
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
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Same here, it was so slow till i had to restart my i9000.

I've been using it for the last two days now (one of them with Supercurio's Voodoo Hack) and I've been happy with it in some parts, but quite unhappy in others.
Lag:
First of all, it seems the "Lag" that was fixed in 2.2.1 is back. Especially with memory-Hungry applications like the Browser, the phone tends to just freeze up for a few minutes without really doing much. I even had to pull the battery one time. This does happen less with the voodoo-fix, but it's still noticeable. Flash also does barely work.
Gingerbread features:
The new Gyroscope-Driver seems to work and it works really well. Skymap and Starchart both looked a LOT better when using them, no fidgeting around all the time anymore.
The new Gingerbread animations are NOT present in this rom. It seems like Samsung thinks they don't fit into TouchWiz, which is a shame. So no glowing edges when overscrolling and no screen-off or screen-on animation.
3D Performance pretty much seems to be the same as on 2.2.1 Games load a little slower, but I think that's mostly because we're using an un-optimized kernel.
The Bluetooth-Driver unfortunately still is the same as in Previous versions. So Neither Wiiremote nor PS3 will pair with the SGS, unlike on Cyanogenmod.
Samsung-Stuff:
As was stated before, Swype does not work. However, I am in the Swype beta and was able to install the Beta of Swype into this rom after deleting the normal swype with root explorer. It works fine, even Voice input does work.
All in all, it is clear that this is beta-firmware and it doesn't really offer much in terms of improvement over 2.2.1, at least not yet. Cyanogenmod 7, even tho it supports less hardware and is more unstable, runs a LOT faster and smoother than this, is more customizable and uses more of the new Gingerbread features.
For now, I'll be going back to 2.2.1, it's more useful as a daily driver, but this at least looks promising so far.

Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.

Well considering this is a beta it seems alot of the features that are suppose to be in the final build are here left out. That will give the reason for quite some things missing ( some animations, effects, lock screens, keyboards....) Plus also cause of the beta build maybe even alpha who knows, the performance for me is really bad, it feels twice as laggy compared to the 2.2.1 releases. All in all this build is an striped down, not optimized build for the samsung devs i guess. We will have to wait for a better build leak. Cheers !

GGSunny12 said:
Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
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Agreed, I switched back to JS5, but for the moment I'm keeping JVE modem. It performs WAY better for me. No random UMTS-disconnects.
But as others said, it's just a beta.

sdolgy said:
FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
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Is it stereo ?

Why I don't use cyanogenmod? Answer is here.

bump and dump. This can be deleted

Depends how u use the phone.
Most of the things you said is right.
Only thing i don't agree is wirelless signal strenght.I had very good results on cm7.
Also i think cm is not for everyday use.
Butt on miui is diferent story.
Try miui

malcho said:
Depends how u use the phone.
Most of the things you said is right.
Only thing i don't agree is wirelless signal strenght.I had very good results on cm7.
Also i think cm is not for everyday use.
Butt on miui is diferent story.
Try miui
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I`m from first miui users on sgs. Most is same.
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Do you complain about 720p recording on CM and now you use a BM kernel?
Now, seriously, I get your point, and in fact I came back to JVT because of most of the reasons that you don´t use CM.
Anyway I must say that CM team is making a great work, and they have all my respect.

I'm really enjoying using MintBerry MIUI at the minute. Wouldn't think of going back to anything else other than back to CyanogenMod.

Jesus christ.
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Most of the force close on any rom is buggy apps.
Never had any fc on system apps.
Market is buggy app from begining so it's not relevant to talk about it.
Yes i miss also good video recording butt for my need it's ok.
Video playback can be solved with good video player.
Battery life pretty much the same on every rom depends how u use it.
I'm big fan of stock roms and specialy semaphore kernel,butt sometimes you have to try something else and help people to make things better.

cabessius said:
Do you complain about 720p recording on CM and now you use a BM kernel?
Now, seriously, I get your point, and in fact I came back to JVT because of most of the reasons that you don´t use CM.
Anyway I must say that CM team is making a great work, and they have all my respect.
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I have a big respect too. They works more for sgs compared to samsung.
I don't record 720p. I'm a heavy gamer. So flashed bigmem. But if I want sgs kernel flasher is 1 click away from me. (Still I can play 720p)
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malcho said:
Most of the force close on any rom is buggy apps.
Never had any fc on system apps.
Market is buggy app from begining so it's not relevant to talk about it.
Yes i miss also good video recording butt for my need it's ok.
Video playback can be solved with good video player.
Battery life pretty much the same on every rom depends how u use it.
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I'm sure battery life is so different on stock. Video playback can be solved with dice player. But I need to pay it.
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aaron.bufc said:
I'm really enjoying using MintBerry MIUI at the minute. Wouldn't think of going back to anything else other than back to CyanogenMod.
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But you will. Always same.
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OK, do tell us now why you don't use symbian and your dislike for iOS or maybe even WP. And than tell us about why you don't use other stock.zip roms and make sure you do the same about every custom kernel as well.
What is the point of this thread? You left enough silly posts on CM thread already. Why would one care about u not using CM7.
Should we all now write posts about it?
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Sounds like you hate CM7. Although I'll just take your post as an informative reminder for people debating on whether to jump from stock to CM7.
Much like stock, CM7 isn't perfect. Whichever benefits you more, choose it. Personally, I'm a huge fan of CM7. Just keep in mind that Android is all about choices.

It's a good guess that Samsung won't update our phones to ICS, so sooner or later if you want to stay up to date you will have to use CM.

upichie said:
Sounds like you hate CM7. Although I'll just take your post as an informative reminder for people debating on whether to jump from stock to CM7.
Much like stock, CM7 isn't perfect. Whichever benefits you more, choose it. Personally, I'm a huge fan of CM7. Just keep in mind that Android is all about choices.
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No I don't hate cyanogenmod. I hate samsung because of source codes. I am a big cyanogenmod fan too. But today the status is that.
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Fremen567 said:
OK, do tell us now why you don't use symbian and your dislike for iOS or maybe even WP. And than tell us about why you don't use other stock.zip roms and make sure you do the same about every custom kernel as well.
What is the point of this thread? You left enough silly posts on CM thread already. Why would one care about u not using CM7.
Should we all now write posts about it?
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I can do this. There is no reason for don't do. (WTF is iOS?) Because I'm not a fan boy. But take a look. On CM thread the fanboys avoiding real bugs. Accelerometer sensor is not only one. Their sensors are not good too. But they says my screen turns well. WTF. How can you understand accuary of that sensors turning screen 270 degrees! I follow cyanogen by nightly 28. Now thats 18x. Main reason is samsung. I know all will be fixed on cm9. But that is that on this time.
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While i agree that the content of this thread started by being kind of useless, people may take this as reference. With that in mind i'll add my personal experience to OP's arguments. I am assuming the latest stable CM release for this which is what i use daily since it came out. Pointing out bugs or stuff failing in nightlies is totally pointless, after all.
I have to use a custom kernel. Because 3D performance is so poor on stock cm kernel.
> wouldn't know. Have around 25 games installed and had issues with none. I don't dabble very much with heavy 3D games on a phone, not a fan of the virtual analog stick. Never felt the need for a kernel change either, CM's stock does everything i need.
-Yaffs2 is so corruptable.
> i had this as not being true. Think i've seen somewhere people saying there was no trouble with this file system. According to YAFFS's website
(http://yaffs.net/yaffs-nand-specific-flash-file-system-introductory-article)
"YAFFS uses journaling, error correction and verification techniques tuned to the way NAND typically fails, to enhance robustness."
So, if it's a filesystem using journaling, it has a way of reducing a chance of data corruption like the alternatives. Not sure about other differences between FS's but i've read this is what people deem as acceptable for data loss prevention.
Also, i've yet to experience data loss.
-No TV-Out because of samsung source codes.
> indeed. If this is a must have then it's a deal breaker. Although i'm yet to see anyone around me having a SGS that would actually use it's tv-out features. Never even seen on sale the specific tvout cable this phone uses in my country.
-With stock samsung camera app we have panaroma mode. Which is a new feature of new ics. We have it since eclair.
> True story. But that's easy to overcome. Just get an app from market like photaf.
-Even no world clock or timer on aosp. We have smart alarm with stock.
> Again, loads of apps on market, just pick your poison.
-I have to flash gapps.
> You gave yourself the trouble to replace a whole system. That's far more trouble than flashing a simple package. Takes just a few seconds to do it. And most you can get from market too.
-I have to flash radio. (JVK is not good for me.)
> If your stock rom doesn't bring the one that works for you you'd have to flash it anyway. It's quite fast too as modems are really small.
-Compass is not good. And gps too.
> Yea, i've seen some people saying this as well. I downloaded "Compass" from market and tried it out in several places comparing to a real one. Didn't make much difference so i'm assuming it's working correctly. GPS is a worn out subject. never really worked for me, no matter what rom i used.
-No hardware acceleration. Browser is laggy. Flash items too.
> I'm not even sure if any rom actually used hardware acceleration for browsing. First time i've heard about doing it was ICS. I did hear people saying something about browser being laggy if it was deodexed and if some compiler (not sure) was being used. But to be honest i've never used the default browser. Always been with opera mobile (it's important being the mobile and not mini). No lag whatsoever. Flash does stutter for a micro second while loading but it does play well and lag free after that. But this is flash we're talking about, it's heavy by nature.
-There is no real hapctic feedback.
> Not sure what you mean. Settings -> Sound settings -> Haptic feedback (last setting on the bottom). Don't like it but just tried it and it works.
-Accelerometer is laggy. Because of libs.
> Another one i've seen some people saying. Works great here i can play games like abduction and labyrinth perfectly. Also downloaded "Accelerometer" from market and it seems to be working fine.
-Battery life is still not much.
> Depends on how much you use it. Lasts easily a day with a few phone calls, loads of text messages, around 4 hours/day of screen on, always with wireless on. Got home at the end of the day and still had around 40%. More than a day is unrealistic, most likely i'd just end up having enough power for half a day if i don't charge overnight. While we're at it, CM doesn't have that dealbreaking bug that can be found on stock roms that makes your phone start using battery when it gets charged to 100% causing massive battery drops when the charger is unplugged. I actually downgraded to froyo just to prevent that.
-Touchwiz calendar and clock is great. Also I like tw keyboard launcher and great sns feature.
> i'm not sure what to say here. If it's touchwiz laucher you're missing you can just download it from the applications section here in XDA. Calendar and clocks have better alternatives from market anyway and i always replace the stock sms app with handcent or GO SMS pro.
-720p video recording + playing = choppy.
> i go to lots of concerts. Always record about half of it on the best resolution the phone has. No issues. Likewise for reproducing them later. Actually, video usually comes out better on dark places than photos.
-Touch pointer can't stand fast moves. Open multitouch test and move your finger a bit fast. Pointer will come after your finger. A bit laggy.
> I used a real case instead. Opened a multitouch keyboard (gingerbread), held my left index finger on shift and my right index finger swiping on the rest of the keyboard. Wasn't laggy at all, letter preview shows up instantly as soon as i go from one letter to another.
-Wireless signal is so poor. I can't connect in my room. (I write this from my room now. Stock JVT.)
> That's just your modem though and you can replace it for whatever works best for you. CM's stock (JVK) gives me the same results as any other modem i used. Always found it a very decent range as i can pick networks from neighbors even 2 apartments away.
-Provider can't understand your phone model so you must set your apns yourself.
> Mine did. I was kind of surprised it did actually, since i'm from portugal. Didn't need to set anything up, just worked.
-I can't see some apps on market with market enabler. I can with stock.
> Not sure how to test this. Can you tell of an app you can't see so i can try it out?
-I have to flash every nightly for a reason. And all needs fix some permissions..
> You don't have to flash them every night. It is actually unadvisable to do so since they are experimental and may screw up something with your phone. Just stick with the stable and if you feel you need to update it, read reviews about what your're flashing carefully first.
-People says you don't have to calibrate battery after every nightly. But cwm uncalibrating battery as hell already.
> You may have been reading the wrong stuff. You calibrate your battery after flashing a new rom. That's it. Poor battery performance is expected after that but evens out after a few charges. And again, you don't really need to flash all those nightlies. Just think about CM as any other rom. Others don't have updates every night either, you just flash it and be done with. Just do the same with CM.
But whatever works for you. Like someone said, no one really cares about what you use, if you feel comfortable with your setup, stick with it - it's all about choice.
I just did this because someone said it would take reference from this post for future people searching for reviews and since i get very different results from yours, i felt like reporting mine in your specific bullet points.

I stopped using it for a simple reason, I kept having issues with voice calls where the other party could not hear me. That was a deal breaker, as my phone is first and foremost a work tool and I cannot afford an unreliable phone

kaynpayn said:
While i agree that the content of this thread started by being kind of useless, people may take this as reference. With that in mind i'll add my personal experience to OP's arguments. I am assuming the latest stable CM release for this which is what i use daily since it came out. Pointing out bugs or stuff failing in nightlies is totally pointless, after all.
I have to use a custom kernel. Because 3D performance is so poor on stock cm kernel.
> wouldn't know. Have around 25 games installed and had issues with none. I don't dabble very much with heavy 3D games on a phone, not a fan of the virtual analog stick. Never felt the need for a kernel change either, CM's stock does everything i need.
-Yaffs2 is so corruptable.
> i had this as not being true. Think i've seen somewhere people saying there was no trouble with this file system. According to YAFFS's website
(http://yaffs.net/yaffs-nand-specific-flash-file-system-introductory-article)
"YAFFS uses journaling, error correction and verification techniques tuned to the way NAND typically fails, to enhance robustness."
So, if it's a filesystem using journaling, it has a way of reducing a chance of data corruption like the alternatives. Not sure about other differences between FS's but i've read this is what people deem as acceptable for data loss prevention.
Also, i've yet to experience data loss.
-No TV-Out because of samsung source codes.
> indeed. If this is a must have then it's a deal breaker. Although i'm yet to see anyone around me having a SGS that would actually use it's tv-out features. Never even seen on sale the specific tvout cable this phone uses in my country.
-With stock samsung camera app we have panaroma mode. Which is a new feature of new ics. We have it since eclair.
> True story. But that's easy to overcome. Just get an app from market like photaf.
-Even no world clock or timer on aosp. We have smart alarm with stock.
> Again, loads of apps on market, just pick your poison.
-I have to flash gapps.
> You gave yourself the trouble to replace a whole system. That's far more trouble than flashing a simple package. Takes just a few seconds to do it. And most you can get from market too.
-I have to flash radio. (JVK is not good for me.)
> If your stock rom doesn't bring the one that works for you you'd have to flash it anyway. It's quite fast too as modems are really small.
-Compass is not good. And gps too.
> Yea, i've seen some people saying this as well. I downloaded "Compass" from market and tried it out in several places comparing to a real one. Didn't make much difference so i'm assuming it's working correctly. GPS is a worn out subject. never really worked for me, no matter what rom i used.
-No hardware acceleration. Browser is laggy. Flash items too.
> I'm not even sure if any rom actually used hardware acceleration for browsing. First time i've heard about doing it was ICS. I did hear people saying something about browser being laggy if it was deodexed and if some compiler (not sure) was being used. But to be honest i've never used the default browser. Always been with opera mobile (it's important being the mobile and not mini). No lag whatsoever. Flash does stutter for a micro second while loading but it does play well and lag free after that. But this is flash we're talking about, it's heavy by nature.
-There is no real hapctic feedback.
> Not sure what you mean. Settings -> Sound settings -> Haptic feedback (last setting on the bottom). Don't like it but just tried it and it works.
-Accelerometer is laggy. Because of libs.
> Another one i've seen some people saying. Works great here i can play games like abduction and labyrinth perfectly. Also downloaded "Accelerometer" from market and it seems to be working fine.
-Battery life is still not much.
> Depends on how much you use it. Lasts easily a day with a few phone calls, loads of text messages, around 4 hours/day of screen on, always with wireless on. Got home at the end of the day and still had around 40%. More than a day is unrealistic, most likely i'd just end up having enough power for half a day if i don't charge overnight. While we're at it, CM doesn't have that dealbreaking bug that can be found on stock roms that makes your phone start using battery when it gets charged to 100% causing massive battery drops when the charger is unplugged. I actually downgraded to froyo just to prevent that.
-Touchwiz calendar and clock is great. Also I like tw keyboard launcher and great sns feature.
> i'm not sure what to say here. If it's touchwiz laucher you're missing you can just download it from the applications section here in XDA. Calendar and clocks have better alternatives from market anyway and i always replace the stock sms app with handcent or GO SMS pro.
-720p video recording + playing = choppy.
> i go to lots of concerts. Always record about half of it on the best resolution the phone has. No issues. Likewise for reproducing them later. Actually, video usually comes out better on dark places than photos.
-Touch pointer can't stand fast moves. Open multitouch test and move your finger a bit fast. Pointer will come after your finger. A bit laggy.
> I used a real case instead. Opened a multitouch keyboard (gingerbread), held my left index finger on shift and my right index finger swiping on the rest of the keyboard. Wasn't laggy at all, letter preview shows up instantly as soon as i go from one letter to another.
-Wireless signal is so poor. I can't connect in my room. (I write this from my room now. Stock JVT.)
> That's just your modem though and you can replace it for whatever works best for you. CM's stock (JVK) gives me the same results as any other modem i used. Always found it a very decent range as i can pick networks from neighbors even 2 apartments away.
-Provider can't understand your phone model so you must set your apns yourself.
> Mine did. I was kind of surprised it did actually, since i'm from portugal. Didn't need to set anything up, just worked.
-I can't see some apps on market with market enabler. I can with stock.
> Not sure how to test this. Can you tell of an app you can't see so i can try it out?
-I have to flash every nightly for a reason. And all needs fix some permissions..
> You don't have to flash them every night. It is actually unadvisable to do so since they are experimental and may screw up something with your phone. Just stick with the stable and if you feel you need to update it, read reviews about what your're flashing carefully first.
-People says you don't have to calibrate battery after every nightly. But cwm uncalibrating battery as hell already.
> You may have been reading the wrong stuff. You calibrate your battery after flashing a new rom. That's it. Poor battery performance is expected after that but evens out after a few charges. And again, you don't really need to flash all those nightlies. Just think about CM as any other rom. Others don't have updates every night either, you just flash it and be done with. Just do the same with CM.
But whatever works for you. Like someone said, no one really cares about what you use, if you feel comfortable with your setup, stick with it - it's all about choice.
I just did this because someone said it would take reference from this post for future people searching for reviews and since i get very different results from yours, i felt like reporting mine in your specific bullet points.
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We have hw acceleration with touchwiz browser. Amazingly smooth flash and scrolling.
Accelerometer is not smooth like stock.
Wireless signal depends on kernel not modem. Drivers are there.
You can't even just open dungeon defenders to play. As a 3D game.
Yesterday I have 7 hours screen on with stock. 3g off I have great uv.
For market look gameloft games. Gt racing for example.
3rd party clock and calendar hooks up my small ram. And so cheap quality on market.
Where can I download TW3 for cm7? I tried one and it lags like mad. Because no hw acceleration.
Hapctic feedback is not full. Compare the solo lite app from market with stock.
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I've was on xxjvt since it was leaked and last week for some reason every time I clicked on the browser it fc all the time so installed cm7 and I can't get any happer why didn't I install cyanogen sooner phone is running alot better now then it was on xxjvt no more gray squares when scrolling down the page

burakgon said:
We have hw acceleration with touchwiz browser. Amazingly smooth flash and scrolling.
Accelerometer is not smooth like stock.
Wireless signal depends on kernel not modem. Drivers are there.
You can't even just open dungeon defenders to play. As a 3D game.
Yesterday I have 7 hours screen on with stock. 3g off I have great uv.
For market look gameloft games. Gt racing for example.
3rd party clock and calendar hooks up my small ram. And so cheap quality on market.
Where can I download TW3 for cm7? I tried one and it lags like mad. Because no hw acceleration.
Hapctic feedback is not full. Compare the solo lite app from market with stock.
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You're right about the wireless drivers being on the kernel. But as i said, CM's stock works great for me.
Not sure what you meant with those 7h of screen... I mentioned my usage, not the limit on how much would my battery last if i had the screen on all the time.
You are right about gameloft games. But there are 2 very simple solutions to that: just get it from android market's website or replace your build.prop with the one on this thread:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/33366-gameloft-games-not-showing-in-market/
I've seen a Touchwiz 4.5 app on the app section. Not sure specifically about TW3. I used 4.5 once on some other rom and liked it very much. But still not good enough for me to change from Go luncher and all those Go widgets though.
About hardware accelerated stuff, glad you found whatever works for you, the whole point of my answer wasn't proving you wrong, just telling people that other people have experienced differently in most of those points you were complaining.

[OPM1] Is there real jank? I'd say yes

Hi all,
I'm a proud owner of PH-1 since yesterday. The device is beautiful, feels so good in my hands, premium looking.
But, after checking everything was working fine and applying all the OTAs, I felt the performance was not good enough. You know, the unwanted jank.
I'm sure that Snapdragon 835 + screen resolution combination must fly, without jank at all; the best proof is that it's something you experiment with the current Lineageos ROM, although I haven't tested it by myself yet.
Therefore, after reading some comments which pointed that OREO beta performed better, I upgraded to it and made a FR to start with a clean upgrade. But I still have that unpleasant feeling.
I've taken several systraces trying to find out something that could help, but the truth is that jank is everywhere. Two examples:
- Scrolling through Amazon app: check amazon.png attachment. Several frames lost at once, due to the orientation sensor + sporadic jank:
Title MessageLoop::RunTask
Category toplevel
User Friendly Category other
Start
1.619,131 ms
Wall Duration
138,135 ms
Self Time
0,033 ms
Args
src_file
"../../mojo/public/cpp/system/simple_watcher.cc"
src_func
"ArmOrNotify"
- Scrolling through Settings. Jank again (specially when the end scrolling animation is shown).
This has been just a quick analysis. We can confirm that improvement is possible. It's not only a feeling now.
I don't know if Essential team reads this forum, but I'd love to see this improved. It's the only thing, IMHO, that needs to get fixed to own a perfect phone.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,

Galitrin said:
Hi all,
I'm a proud owner of PH-1 since yesterday. The device is beautiful, feels so good in my hands, premium looking.
But, after checking everything was working fine and applying all the OTAs, I felt the performance was not good enough. You know, the unwanted jank.
I'm sure that Snapdragon 835 + screen resolution combination must fly, without jank at all; the best proof is that it's something you experiment with the current Lineageos ROM, although I haven't tested it by myself yet.
Therefore, after reading some comments which pointed that OREO beta performed better, I upgraded to it and made a FR to start with a clean upgrade. But I still have that unpleasant feeling.
I've taken several systraces trying to find out something that could help, but the truth is that jank is everywhere. Two examples:
- Scrolling through Amazon app: check amazon.png attachment. Several frames lost at once, due to the orientation sensor + sporadic jank:
Title MessageLoop::RunTask
Category toplevel
User Friendly Category other
Start
1.619,131 ms
Wall Duration
138,135 ms
Self Time
0,033 ms
Args
src_file
"../../mojo/public/cpp/system/simple_watcher.cc"
src_func
"ArmOrNotify"
- Scrolling through Settings. Jank again (specially when the end scrolling animation is shown).
This has been just a quick analysis. We can confirm that improvement is possible. It's not only a feeling now.
I don't know if Essential team reads this forum, but I'd love to see this improved. It's the only thing, IMHO, that needs to get fixed to own a perfect phone.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
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They are aware of it and they said this issue is top priority. Whether they can fix it that remains to be seen. My gut tells me they can improve the touch scrolling, but ultimately there's an issue with the LCD panel. I am hoping it's not a design flaw and that I'm proven wrong. This is my main issue with the device. I love everything else about it. In Lineage the touch scrolling and performance in general is much better compared to stock or Oreo beta, but the touch scrolling issue is still there.

The problem with the scrolling is waaaaay better than my LG G4 (which seems to have been programmed to go down after a year ).
The only issue I really had is with some news website opened through the Facebook app, where scrolling is just not working.

Thanks for your replies.
Just to summarize: I'm talking about performance problems, that's it, missed frames when scrolling or an animation is shown (ie: open an app). That's not acceptable on a device powered by a 835 processor.
Br,

Galitrin said:
Thanks for your replies.
Just to summarize: I'm talking about performance problems, that's it, missed frames when scrolling or an animation is shown (ie: open an app). That's not acceptable on a device powered by a 835 processor.
Br,
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Switch to Lineage if it really bothers you. I personally could not handle stock for the reasons you mentioned. Lineage is like using a completely different device. Night and day difference when it comes to UI smoothness and performance. Latest build has incredible battery life too.

mhajii210 said:
Switch to Lineage if it really bothers you. I personally could not handle stock for the reasons you mentioned. Lineage is like using a completely different device. Night and day difference when it comes to UI smoothness and performance. Latest build has incredible battery life too.
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Completely agree. I switched to LineageOs yesterday, and looks like a different phone. No jank and battery consumption is really good so far.
Thanks for the tip. I would really like to go back to stock, but once they have fixed both idle consumption and jank issues.
Br,