Over 5mbps download speed - Nexus S General

I thought the nexus s didn't have hspa+. So how is it getting speeds this high?
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gotgadget said:
I thought the nexus s didn't have hspa+. So how is it getting speeds this high?
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HSPA+ = 7.2
5 mbps < 7.2 mbps (HSPA+)
.. you do the rest

Best I've gotten is 4.1, which is still faster than Sprint ever was.
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zephiK said:
HSPA+ = 7.2
5 mbps < 7.2 mbps (HSPA+)
.. you do the rest
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wrong
HSPA is up to 7.2mbps and HSPA+ is up to 21mbps i think,

kolyan said:
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HSPA is up to 7.2mbps and HSPA+ is up to 21mbps i think,
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the current Tmobile HSPA+ phones support a max speed of 14.4, our speeds non-HSPA+ max is 7.2

i've seen 5k download and 1.8k upload in long island, ny

inspiron41 said:
i've seen 5k download and 1.8k upload in long island, ny
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gotta remember kbps, kb/s and mb/s are different

slowz3r said:
the current Tmobile HSPA+ phones support a max speed of 14.4, our speeds non-HSPA+ max is 7.2
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Where did you get 14.4 ? everywhere i look it says Tmobile 4G is 21mbps

kolyan said:
Where did you get 14.4 ? everywhere i look it says Tmobile 4G is 21mbps
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its theoretical 21. the Mytouch4g and G2 carry HSPA+ but at a maximum possible of 14.4

This is a good illustration, you hear a lot of people complaining about the lack of HSPA+ support in the NS, but until I hear of people consistenly getting 7.2 on their devices, then will their complaints be warranted. I got 4.2 in Sherman Oaks.

kolyan said:
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HSPA is up to 7.2mbps and HSPA+ is up to 21mbps i think,
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No. I didn't mean to say that HSPA+ is capped at 7.2mbps, I was just saying that 5 mbps < 7.2... which the Nexus S and other non-HSPA+ devices' cap is at 7.2.
But yeah devices that supports HSPA+ (marketed as 4G) its 21mbps (theoretically)

ALuton said:
This is a good illustration, you hear a lot of people complaining about the lack of HSPA+ support in the NS, but until I hear of people consistenly getting 7.2 on their devices, then will their complaints be warranted. I got 4.2 in Sherman Oaks.
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support for HSPA+ is more of a future-proof feature and currently its not that important, but people that buy Nexus S usually keep it for a while and future-proofing is important especially that 4G phones are already available for cheaper price.

the way i see it is, what in gods name do you need that much speed on a mobile device for, i mean really most home internet isnt that fast

slowz3r said:
the way i see it is, what in gods name do you need that much speed on a mobile device for, i mean really most home internet isnt that fast
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Oh hai, tethering
I do think that "4G" is just a marketing term really, and speed is relative. On our phones, a browser on 2Mbps will load just as fast as 5Mbps. As will Youtube and anything else that we do. Speed only makes a difference to those who tether IMO.

slowz3r said:
the way i see it is, what in gods name do you need that much speed on a mobile device for, i mean really most home internet isnt that fast
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...porn

slowz3r said:
the way i see it is, what in gods name do you need that much speed on a mobile device for, i mean really most home internet isnt that fast
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Tethering, of course.

distortedloop said:
Tethering, of course.
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Ya, tethering but with most carriers incorporating a soft data cap of 5gigs your 4G speeds mean nothing once u hit that soft cap
maybe most of you dont see it my way but thats my .02

slowz3r said:
gotta remember kbps, kb/s and mb/s are different
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Well, just to be clear, kbps and kb/s are the same thing (as is kbit/s), at least according to my understanding and Wikipedia's entry on the subject. All three are obviously different than mb/s, and of course our phones are usually measured in Kb/s and Mb/s, which is different than the small k/m measurement.
Clear as mud for many, right?

distortedloop said:
Well, just to be clear, kbps and kb/s are the same thing (as is kbit/s), at least according to my understanding and Wikipedia's entry on the subject. All three are obviously different than mb/s, and of course our phones are usually measured in Kb/s and Mb/s, which is different than the small k/m measurement.
Clear as mud for many, right?
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to make it easier on everyone my phone downloads at 6.4 stones

slowz3r said:
to make it easier on everyone my phone downloads at 6.4 stones
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I thought they only had that speed in England...

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3G & 4G Speed Test

So I'm wondering what everyone's getting as far as 3G and 4G speeds.
I'm trying to debate from friends on another forum about Sprints Data Speeds being better than AT&T's and well, me only having 2 bars and no 3G at my house makes it a hard sell.
My speeds when I got a lil 3G were:
Down: 692
Up: 592
I get anywhere from 1.0 MB/sec to 1.5 MB/sec with 3G down. My up speeds are always horrible.
My up speed normally passes my down. How weird is that?
Jykinturah said:
I get anywhere from 1.0 MB/sec to 1.5 MB/sec with 3G down. My up speeds are always horrible.
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MB or Mb? There's a huge difference.
Well we know its not 12MB.... so its the other way
acrh2 said:
MB or Mb? There's a huge difference.
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Exactly. what we are ACTUALLY talking about is Megabits. NOT Mebibytes. And no, that isn't a typo. A Mebibyte is 1024 Kibibytes. A Kibibyte is 1024 bytes.
So until I see 8 Megabits/s download...
Landmine said:
Well we know its not 12MB.... so its the other way
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I'll tell you what speeds I get on 3G. Speakeasy.net speedtest to the closest server (Chicago) gives 1.7Mbps down and 400Kbps up.
my 3g 4g speeds
3G 1.15 down 0.65 up
4G 2.91 down 1.01 up
in Mbps
im in Dallas , Texas
I tested the other day and posted a video on youtube with my differences in Clarksville, MD. I got practically NO difference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqbE1M1liFU
But today I was in Germantown, MD and turned on 4G (an area that isn't even suppose to have 4G yet according to sprints site) and got 3Mbps so it varies from place to place by quite a bit.
Dallas Tx 4G
7.4 MB/s Down
1.67 MB/s Up
dayved07 said:
Dallas Tx 4G
7.4 MB/s Down
1.67 MB/s Up
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This is bs. It's almost as good as my cable. Get a life!
il send ya the link to my speed test no bs BUDDY!
dayved07 said:
il send ya the link to my speed test no bs BUDDY!
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You are delusional - 7.4 Megabytes down, really? This is about 6 times faster than my fairly snappy cable.
Ya get the link? Why would i be making this up for. Isnt this what the thread is about?
btw i would of posted the speedtest.net results but it doesnt let me post links
dayved07 said:
Ya get the link? Why would i be making this up for. Isnt this what the thread is about?
btw i would of posted the speedtest.net results but it doesnt let me post links
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I already told you in pm. Mbps is different from MBps.
1 MBps = 8 x 1 Mbps.
Check wikipedia if you don't believe me.
Lancaster, Pa
4G
5.6Mbps down
1.2Mbps Up
Mounds View, MN (10-15 miles north of Minneapolis)
3G: 2.01Mbps down / 0.64Mbps up
I get 15mb/s download on my wifi
and about 1.3mb/sec on 3G
4G here in the suburbs of atlanta is about 5mb/sec
pretty good
Buffalo Grove, IL
3G: 674Mbps down / 647Mbps up
4G: 3152Mbps down / 1037Mbps up
I run this test everywhere I go, and generally I get about 350-800Mbps down and 450-1000Mbps up on 3G, while 4G is more erratic and can go anywhere from 300 to 3500Mbps down and 600-1000 Mbps up.
acrh2 said:
This is bs. It's almost as good as my cable. Get a life!
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In theory 4g is totally capable of those speeds.
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HSPA+ is Real. Check these speeds.

For those of you that aren't believers, here in Pittsburgh, PA, we rock the HSPA+.
See attached.
He's over 10 thousand...!!!!!!!!!
Anderdroid said:
For those of you that aren't believers, here in Pittsburgh, PA, we rock the HSPA+.
See attached.
He's over 10 thousand...!!!!!!!!!
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why is your server set for Austin Texas
Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
He might be over 10,000...
However in the end it's still over 9,000!!!!
Yeah but this upload sucks my n0000000000ts
Actually I'm beginning to think that they programmed this phone to show H even if it's on plain 3g. Sometimes I actually only get 3.87MB/s which makes me think I 'unlatched' from HSPA+. My Vibrant on the i9000 ROM switched from 3g to "H" often.
that upload sux
it's just like what i get in my area...
did they not enable HSUPA/+?
Anderdroid said:
Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
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i have that problem with speedtest it shows your in a differnt state for some reason
Anderdroid said:
Yeah but this upload sucks my n0000000000ts
Actually I'm beginning to think that they programmed this phone to show H even if it's on plain 3g. Sometimes I actually only get 3.87MB/s which makes me think I 'unlatched' from HSPA+. My Vibrant on the i9000 ROM switched from 3g to "H" often.
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Yes it wil never say 3G always H or E and really bad G lol. If you wanna see when your on HSPA, UMTS OR EDGE try this widget. I like it. http://drdmkt.com/3b1
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
shibby80 said:
i have that problem with speedtest it shows your in a differnt state for some reason
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Usually it is because you went somewhere else and your phone hasn't locked on to you since you got back. For example, I'll travel to Dallas (I'm in Houston) and I'll update weatherbug to the Dallas area but if I go back to Houston and don't update my location via weatherbug or something it will show me 30 miles from the Dallas server.
Look at that...his 3g is faster than my wifi in my house...
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in my house i am getting 385 down and 705 up, my N1 gets double that...on a bad day
Anderdroid said:
Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
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And how's the G2 going to break 20? m bips!?
joebobjoe said:
And how's the G2 going to break 20? m bips!?
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it cant, the max possible is 14.4 i think...
Really? When T-Mo pushes out the 24? G2 won't support it? Gay!!!
Anderdroid said:
Really? When T-Mo pushes out the 24? G2 won't support it? Gay!!!
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Not true.
The current network limitation is 14.4 IIRC but if the network goes 21/24 or whatever it is... the G2 will go right along with it. Hence the HSPA+ moniker they are touting ever so much.
SuperFly03 said:
Not true.
The current network limitation is 14.4 IIRC but if the network goes 21/24 or whatever it is... the G2 will go right along with it. Hence the HSPA+ moniker they are touting ever so much.
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Nope. HSPA+ supports up to 21Mbps at present, but the chip in the G2 does a max of 14.4Mbps, as T-Mobile has stated since months before the launch (even before the G2 was announced they said it would be limited to 14.4). I suppose it is conceivable that a firmware upgrade would lift that limit, but I would not hold your breath.
omarsalmin said:
He might be over 10,000...
However in the end it's still over 9,000!!!!
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Lol +1
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
These are the speeds I got around South Seattle / Renton. Not as high as the OP but so much faster than around Tacoma right now.
kludgineer said:
Nope. HSPA+ supports up to 21Mbps at present, but the chip in the G2 does a max of 14.4Mbps, as T-Mobile has stated since months before the launch (even before the G2 was announced they said it would be limited to 14.4). I suppose it is conceivable that a firmware upgrade would lift that limit, but I would not hold your breath.
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This is true.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
Check under "special features." HSDPA 14.4 is supported. Nothing higher.
And I'm pretty sure that it's a hardware limitation of the chipset, so I don't think any type of firmware upgrade could increase that limit. I'm not 100% sure, though.
I hardly see the need for anything higher than 14.4 Mbps on a mobile phone anyway.
Snuggl3s said:
Yes it wil never say 3G always H or E and really bad G lol. If you wanna see when your on HSPA, UMTS OR EDGE try this widget. I like it. http://drdmkt.com/3b1
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I can't seem to get this to work, bummer

Nexus S Specs

Does anyone else find it odd that this xmas the Nexus S will hit T-Mobile and it... doesn't support 4g networks?!
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/11/nexus-s-specs-leak/
luckyduck69 said:
Does anyone else find it odd that this xmas the Nexus S will hit T-Mobile and it... doesn't support 4g networks?!
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Well, on a technicality, T-Mobile doesn't have 4G (but then neither does anyone). However, yes, it is surprising that its only 7.2mbps down and 5.76 up, which doesn't seem like a big change from the Nexus One.
What's frustrating is that they might release this for T-Mobile now, and a few months later, they'll release an AT&T version, just like the N1. If its a Googlephone, why can't they make it pentaband 3G?!
On a side note, would have been nice if it had a LTE radio. Heck, even CDMA capability too.
5MP Camera
512MB Ram (Rumor)
I wanted it to be an upgrade from the N1 in everyway
eg. 8MP camera
756MB Ram
And theyre both on the D'HD
t-mobile does not has 4G...
MacaronyMax said:
5MP Camera
512MB Ram (Rumor)
I wanted it to be an upgrade from the N1 in everyway
eg. 8MP camera
756MB Ram
And theyre both on the D'HD
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Ya i don't agree with the rumors..But if the nexus is coming from Samsung..I guess everything is possible...
shr said:
Ya i don't agree with the rumors..But if the nexus is coming from Samsung..I guess everything is possible...
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Dudez Nothing is in stone. The Nexus S may still have HSPA+. Wait for an official spec sheet.
Anderdroid said:
Dudez Nothing is in stone. The Nexus S may still have HSPA+. Wait for an official spec sheet.
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That's why i said..I don't agree with the rumors...
I am waiting for the Official spec sheet.Haven't searched yet stil i guess GSMarena would be the 1st place i'd search...
4g and hspa+ are soo stupid cliché-s in usa , in europ my hspa speed **** on the usa 4g and hspa+ speeds(what is it 1.5mb 3.5g and 3mb tops 4g ?? i get 5mb+ easy) theres absolutely no need to them cuz the network is inferior to the speed of the hspa technology
yeah, i'm not an idiot 4g sponsor by any means. i just found it odd that the accidental best buy ad shows the phone will not support it. if this turns out to be true then gingerbread better be some epic software upgrade in itself.
souljaboy said:
4g and hspa+ are soo stupid cliché-s in usa , in europ my hspa speed **** on the usa 4g and hspa+ speeds(what is it 1.5mb 3.5g and 3mb tops 4g ?? i get 5mb+ easy) theres absolutely no need to them cuz the network is inferior to the speed of the hspa technology
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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lmao no they don't 14.2mps lol
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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12mbps on hspa, and Im currently in a city of only 15,000 people.
Face it, the USA has terrible high speed mobile connectivity in most places!
lonelykatana said:
12mbps on hspa, and Im currently in a city of only 15,000 people.
Face it, the USA has terrible high speed mobile connectivity in most places!
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yea..I wish it was more consistent ..now I don't mind switching to Verizon for that consistency..2mbps is enough for me on the go.
souljaboy said:
4g and hspa+ are soo stupid cliché-s in usa , in europ my hspa speed **** on the usa 4g and hspa+ speeds(what is it 1.5mb 3.5g and 3mb tops 4g ?? i get 5mb+ easy) theres absolutely no need to them cuz the network is inferior to the speed of the hspa technology
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U a ediat ...
check out t-mobile network speeds:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=249176&id=108726828894
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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i was going to let it go and let him be amazed when he discovered this. but...cool! lol
nice job guys now we ****tin rite back at em
the usa speeds im talkin about were in houses in various phone reviews eg. real life numbers not standing on the street or in a metropolis
back to my point
14.4 Mbit/s HSDPA max speed
21 Mbit/s HSPA+ max speed
ur damn network is nowhere close to these , stop being obessed with new marketing abbreviations
by the logic u have , ud happily buy an ice cream truck with a larger engine or newer model , and think the ice cream tastes better(placebo at best) CUZ THE NUMBA IS HIGHER in the ad
Yeah, I hope those rumors aren't true.
I won't get an SGS2 if that is true..
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nice job guys now we ****tin rite back at em
the usa speeds im talkin about were in houses in various phone reviews eg. real life numbers not standing on the street or in a metropolis
back to my point
14.4 Mbit/s HSDPA max speed
21 Mbit/s HSPA+ max speed
ur damn network is nowhere close to these , stop being obessed with new marketing abbreviations
by the logic u have , ud happily buy an ice cream truck with a larger engine or newer model , and think the ice cream tastes better(placebo at best) CUZ THE NUMBA IS HIGHER in the ad
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Proof or it didn't happen
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Proof or it didn't happen
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ur post is the proof ... that ur brain never has advanced beyond the level of a 6 year old
Christ, you people seem to be getting rather worked up about how fast your connections are :-S
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Christ, you people seem to be getting rather worked up about how fast your connections are :-S
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Hmm.. I agree
Altough I will ignore you all unless you have fibre optics speed jk

AT&T 4G lies

I just read on AT&T's website that they consider 6Mb/s to be their 4G.
This means that our 4G devices will never be any faster than the iPhone 4 which supports up to 7.2Mb/s.
When I bought my Atrix I was under the assumption that they would eventually make use of the HSPA+ that the phone supports.
If the iPhone 4 is a 3G device then so is the Atrix.
Dear AT&T,
Thanks for lying and using trickery to attract customers. You suck.
PS hurry up and at least enable HSUPA
For all those that don't know, when they enable HSUPA this will not speed up our download connection speed, only the upload. So don't expect much.
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Link to where they say its 6? I thought it was 14 or so. Forgive me if I don't believe its only 6
Nvm. Just read it. Normal 3G is 7.2. Not HSPA+. HSPA+ has a maximum of 14mbps. 3g is 7.2
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I was on the phone with AT&T Business today about other issues, and asked about the "4G".
The rep seemed very well informed, told me no towers in my area have dates assigned to them for upgrade to 4G yet, and that I still have some which are not even 3G capable. She also told me they are trying to get their "4G" to everyone by the end of the year, and the download speed is 20mbps. This was a lengthy conversation, much more involved than this short description, but it was very interesting to talk to a rep who actually new technical stuff.
Also read somewhere that enabling HSUPA will decrease latency which will also increase download speed. Not sure about that, though.
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Also read somewhere that enabling HSUPA will decrease latency which will also increase download speed. Not sure about that, though.
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i read that also but cant put on finger on where it was
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i read that also but cant put on finger on where it was
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
We'll get category 6 HSUPA. even says HSUPA will decrease latency. Which means we'll be seeing i4 or even higher speeds.
OP. Overreact much? Especially over misinformation.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
This says in the 'Just how fast is AT&T 4G' faq "AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6Mbps"
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What the network is capable of delivering and the maximum speed the device supports are two different things. Both the Inspire and the Atrix have radios that can pull up to 14.4 Mbps if the network is able to provide it.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
This says in the 'Just how fast is AT&T 4G' faq "AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6Mbps"
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THe key word in that statement is "approximately" 6mpbs, it is just marketing. You will barely ever see the full speeds of "4g" due to the physics of networks.
plvaulter06 said:
This means that our 4G devices will never be any faster than the iPhone 4 which supports up to 7.2Mb/s.
Ha! Iphone 4? The 3gs is capable of 7.2. So all we got was a 3g phone with dual core that is locked down by att and moto. If I could pull 6 mbs on a regular I would be really happy with that. I avg about 700 kbps.
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like sifon said... and i wouldn't even exactly call it a "marketing" term. It's just going the logical route. They say approximately 6Mbps.... because if they say something like "You will expect to see 10Mbps".... then imagine how many calls they're going to get from people complaining cause they're ONLY getting 6Mbps. And i don't even see why people are complaining about THAT! 6Mbps? on a PHONE?!? Just a few years ago, 5Mbps was the fastest broadband internet connection via cable in my area. 6Mbps is probably still faster than a lot of broadband connections here in the US (except for that one city that's going to be getting Google's gigabit fiber optic internet connection.... lucky f*ckers).
And yes... when they enable HSUPA, we will probably (see? if i said "will" here, me and anyone quoting me would probably get flamed like crazy if it didn't come to pass) see a lot lower latencies and higher download speeds than we currently are. As we all know, internet connections are a two way thing. If you can't get information TO the servers, you won't get it FROM them either.
I have 4g download speed in my neighborhood. (luck me! ) I pull 4 on average, and 5 rarely. 6 is a marketing speed. You will never see 6.
what are your upload speeds?
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what are your upload speeds?
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They're obviously .33 still. HSUPA isn't enabled on our phones yet. Not until we get that HSUPA update.
Also, can anyone confirm whether it's 14 Mbps, or 20/22? I keep seeing different numbers tossed around, and I can't be sure anymore.
my phone says H+ on it and 5 bars yet download speed says 500-600 kbps and upload is right around 100. on my wifi at home i have clearwire and i get 3 megs down 1 meg up and my phone says it gets the same 3md/1mu when its hooked up to wifi. do i neeg to go get a different sim card for my atrix? ATT told me i dont need one because the 4G network wont be out for another 6 months to a year (which is misinformation, we have it in seattle AFAIK). but even w/ 3G i should be pulling A LOT faster than that right?
i can pull 5.5 with a captivate
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i can pull that down and more with my atrix whats ur point ?
Think the point is that with a 4G phone, if you're in a 4G area, you WOULD be pulling a lot more.... but due to not having fast uploads, download speeds are crippled.
the problem here is that with AT&T's 'enhanced back-haul program' they are only planning on buying some additional bandwidth and speed (raising it to 6Mbps) for each tower's individual internet connection. So even if the tower is using HSPA+ to transmit data to our phones, it is only going to be as fast as the internet connection that the tower has.
Its like using a really nice Wireless router, and wireless card. While it is nice, it doesn't make your connection speed any faster than an older model of router and card that could already handle your internet connection.
I really hope I'm wrong, but anyone who tells you that your Atrix is going to have a 20Mbps mobile data connection from AT&T is just blowing smoke up your @$$.
Interesting facts:
128 HSPA+ network in 65 countries including:
95 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 21 Mbps
11 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 28 Mbps
22 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 42 Mbps
Here is something very interesting for the future:
Radio over Fiber (RoF) Communication System - supposedly has d/l rate of 20Gb/s and is equal to the speed of optic fiber. Could be available in 10 years to the public.

Internation Note and AT&T: speed comparisions

I'm looking at buying a galaxy note, but the international Galaxy Note is really the one I want. Unfortunately, I need data speeds. Not the 40mbps of LTE, but I need more than my 1.4/0.9 mpbs that I get now on my Samsung Captivate. What speeds do you guys get on your notes? What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices? Was there much of an improvement? I tether, and the added speed would be handy, if it exists.
E_man5112 said:
What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices?
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I think this GNote is HSPA+. My results from Speedtest in Atlanta, GA...(see below/attached).
I wondered the same before so scoured around a bunch and saw that ATT speeds can vary between 1mpbs - 7mpbs down, and .5-1.5mbps up depending on various factors.
It really depends on where you are. Most importantly, how many other AT&T customers share the same tower as you. Typically, in a big crowded metropolitan area, speeds are lower. My HSPA+ speed rarely exceeds 1mbps. Often in low 100kbps range.
That's why if you want speed, LTE is the only way to go. Even without counting on future proof, the fact that very few ppl are using the separate LTE network (no, it doesn't share the same network as HSPA+) at this time.
squeeze said:
I think this GNote is HSPA+. My results from Speedtest in Atlanta, GA...(see below/attached).
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Thanks. Do you remember what it was from your non-HSPA+ device?
k1ng617 said:
I wondered the same before so scoured around a bunch and saw that ATT speeds can vary between 1mpbs - 7mpbs down, and .5-1.5mbps up depending on various factors.
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Yeah, I'm aware of that. That's why I want to know what you got before HSPA+ and after HSPA+.
foxbat121 said:
It really depends on where you are. Most importantly, how many other AT&T customers share the same tower as you. Typically, in a big crowded metropolitan area, speeds are lower. My HSPA+ speed rarely exceeds 1mbps. Often in low 100kbps range.
That's why if you want speed, LTE is the only way to go. Even without counting on future proof, the fact that very few ppl are using the separate LTE network (no, it doesn't share the same network as HSPA+) at this time.
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That's unfortunate. I'm afraid I may be int he same boat. I don't feel I need LTE, but I need more than what my Captivate is giving me.
In DFW I usually get 6-8 mbps down and 1 up on my GNote.
On my skyrocket, which is LTE, I get 30-60 down and 10 to 15 up.
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E_man5112 said:
I'm looking at buying a galaxy note, but the international Galaxy Note is really the one I want. Unfortunately, I need data speeds. Not the 40mbps of LTE, but I need more than my 1.4/0.9 mpbs that I get now on my Samsung Captivate. What speeds do you guys get on your notes? What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices? Was there much of an improvement? I tether, and the added speed would be handy, if it exists.
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You should read this. Should answer all your speed questions quite definitively!
I typically get this sort of speed on H+
Something must happened with AT&T in South Orange County, California, I used to achieve max 1.3 - 2 mbps, right now I am consistent and getting 3.2 and sometimes in some places even higher, the highest so far that I achieved was in Huntington Beach Home Depot parking lot ;-) 5.7 mbps.
Best speeds I got at the end of my driveway, just north of Baltimore, MD was 8mbps down and 2.5mbps up. But my average is more like 4 down and 1.5 up. I'm using an ATT iPad Unlimited Micro-SIM card.
Never has speed issues with my Note on ATT. Here's a recent test.
I'm in DFW...
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Spartan2x said:
Best speeds I got at the end of my driveway, just north of Baltimore, MD was 8mbps down and 2.5mbps up. But my average is more like 4 down and 1.5 up. I'm using an ATT iPad Unlimited Micro-SIM card.
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That's good news for me as i was planning on switching from Tmobile to att soon. Edge with Tmobile is just not cutting it.
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Thanks for all the answers guys
carlitos66 said:
Something must happened with AT&T in South Orange County, California, I used to achieve max 1.3 - 2 mbps, right now I am consistent and getting 3.2 and sometimes in some places even higher, the highest so far that I achieved was in Huntington Beach Home Depot parking lot ;-) 5.7 mbps.
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That's what I am getting now (1.3) so hopefully I'll end up with 3.2+ with the note. That would be enough I think.
I'm in Philly and my speeds suck no matter what. Location is the main thing to look at here.
E_man5112 said:
I'm looking at buying a galaxy note, but the international Galaxy Note is really the one I want. Unfortunately, I need data speeds. Not the 40mbps of LTE, but I need more than my 1.4/0.9 mpbs that I get now on my Samsung Captivate. What speeds do you guys get on your notes? What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices? Was there much of an improvement? I tether, and the added speed would be handy, if it exists.
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Is your captivate stock?
Some of the custom roms will do wonders for your data speed
Ran a few speed tests side by side against a stock captivate and it was not even close specially in uploads
Im getting around 600 to 900 KB over UMTS,HSPA+ is still being implemented in my area as we speak
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Never has speed issues with my Note on ATT. Here's a recent test.
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What APN setting do you use?
ph00ny said:
Is your captivate stock?
Some of the custom roms will do wonders for your data speed
Ran a few speed tests side by side against a stock captivate and it was not even close specially in uploads
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Nope, currently running the AOSP ICS rom.

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