For those of you that aren't believers, here in Pittsburgh, PA, we rock the HSPA+.
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He's over 10 thousand...!!!!!!!!!
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For those of you that aren't believers, here in Pittsburgh, PA, we rock the HSPA+.
See attached.
He's over 10 thousand...!!!!!!!!!
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why is your server set for Austin Texas
Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
He might be over 10,000...
However in the end it's still over 9,000!!!!
Yeah but this upload sucks my n0000000000ts
Actually I'm beginning to think that they programmed this phone to show H even if it's on plain 3g. Sometimes I actually only get 3.87MB/s which makes me think I 'unlatched' from HSPA+. My Vibrant on the i9000 ROM switched from 3g to "H" often.
that upload sux
it's just like what i get in my area...
did they not enable HSUPA/+?
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Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
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i have that problem with speedtest it shows your in a differnt state for some reason
Anderdroid said:
Yeah but this upload sucks my n0000000000ts
Actually I'm beginning to think that they programmed this phone to show H even if it's on plain 3g. Sometimes I actually only get 3.87MB/s which makes me think I 'unlatched' from HSPA+. My Vibrant on the i9000 ROM switched from 3g to "H" often.
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Yes it wil never say 3G always H or E and really bad G lol. If you wanna see when your on HSPA, UMTS OR EDGE try this widget. I like it. http://drdmkt.com/3b1
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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i have that problem with speedtest it shows your in a differnt state for some reason
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Usually it is because you went somewhere else and your phone hasn't locked on to you since you got back. For example, I'll travel to Dallas (I'm in Houston) and I'll update weatherbug to the Dallas area but if I go back to Houston and don't update my location via weatherbug or something it will show me 30 miles from the Dallas server.
Look at that...his 3g is faster than my wifi in my house...
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in my house i am getting 385 down and 705 up, my N1 gets double that...on a bad day
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Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
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And how's the G2 going to break 20? m bips!?
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And how's the G2 going to break 20? m bips!?
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it cant, the max possible is 14.4 i think...
Really? When T-Mo pushes out the 24? G2 won't support it? Gay!!!
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Really? When T-Mo pushes out the 24? G2 won't support it? Gay!!!
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Not true.
The current network limitation is 14.4 IIRC but if the network goes 21/24 or whatever it is... the G2 will go right along with it. Hence the HSPA+ moniker they are touting ever so much.
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Not true.
The current network limitation is 14.4 IIRC but if the network goes 21/24 or whatever it is... the G2 will go right along with it. Hence the HSPA+ moniker they are touting ever so much.
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Nope. HSPA+ supports up to 21Mbps at present, but the chip in the G2 does a max of 14.4Mbps, as T-Mobile has stated since months before the launch (even before the G2 was announced they said it would be limited to 14.4). I suppose it is conceivable that a firmware upgrade would lift that limit, but I would not hold your breath.
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He might be over 10,000...
However in the end it's still over 9,000!!!!
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Lol +1
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
These are the speeds I got around South Seattle / Renton. Not as high as the OP but so much faster than around Tacoma right now.
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Nope. HSPA+ supports up to 21Mbps at present, but the chip in the G2 does a max of 14.4Mbps, as T-Mobile has stated since months before the launch (even before the G2 was announced they said it would be limited to 14.4). I suppose it is conceivable that a firmware upgrade would lift that limit, but I would not hold your breath.
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This is true.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
Check under "special features." HSDPA 14.4 is supported. Nothing higher.
And I'm pretty sure that it's a hardware limitation of the chipset, so I don't think any type of firmware upgrade could increase that limit. I'm not 100% sure, though.
I hardly see the need for anything higher than 14.4 Mbps on a mobile phone anyway.
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Yes it wil never say 3G always H or E and really bad G lol. If you wanna see when your on HSPA, UMTS OR EDGE try this widget. I like it. http://drdmkt.com/3b1
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I can't seem to get this to work, bummer
Related
In fact it actually moves slower than EDGE most of the time, until H kicks in and fixes it.
It doesn't happen all of the time, but it happens alot.
Any ideas wtf is going on?
I'm on T-Mobile.
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In fact it actually moves slower than EDGE most of the time, until H kicks in and fixes it.
It doesn't happen all of the time, but it happens alot.
Any ideas wtf is going on?
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ive got an idea...... at&t blows hard!! thats why. same on my end.
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ive got an idea...... at&t blows hard!! thats why. same on my end.
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Last test i read, ATT has the fastest 3g. But I'm not on ATT. Forgot to say that XD
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Last test i read, ATT has the fastest 3g. But I'm not on ATT. Forgot to say that XD
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yeah, i dont care what those dumb commercials say, i think verizon is faster, and at&t doesnt even have 3g most places.
leemoss84 said:
yeah, i dont care what those dumb commercials say, i think verizon is faster, and at&t doesnt even have 3g most places.
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Lol naa everyone says they have the fastest 3g. http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.co...roid-fastest-second-runner-says-pc-world.html
Take a look at that. That doesn't make up for the crappy coverage and expensive prices though.
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ive got an idea...... at&t blows hard!! thats why. same on my end.
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The N1 isn't even compatible with AT&T 3G, so I don't know how this is relevant.
EDGE is of course pretty slow but I have absolutely no speed problems with 3G on my end - it's quite fast with low latency.
So how slow is crap? I've never seen it move.
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In fact it actually moves slower than EDGE most of the time, until H kicks in and fixes it.
It doesn't happen all of the time, but it happens alot.
Any ideas wtf is going on?
I'm on T-Mobile.
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maybe its where you live.the 3g may suck there.
Maybe...I live in Pueblo Colorado. And according to t-mobile I should be swimming in 3g.
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Maybe...I live in Pueblo Colorado. And according to t-mobile I should be swimming in 3g.
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Have you tried the speedtest.net app? What kind of results do you get?
U might try locking it into 3g... type *#*#4636#*#* with dialer go to phone info, scroll down and check wdma ONLY, save and try again.
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I'll post as soon as I hit 3g. I really don't get 3g in my small neighborhood alot of times so it could be a while, since all I do is school and my house.
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I'll post as soon as I hit 3g. I really don't get 3g in my small neighborhood alot of times so it could be a while, since all I do is school and my house.
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Doesn't this more or less answer your original question?
I mean if you have that weak of a 3g signal I wouldn't expect it to be very fast.
Honestly in my experience even with just a bar or so, 3G is still quite fast...perhaps there's a lack of backhaul at the tower as well.
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I'll post as soon as I hit 3g. I really don't get 3g in my small neighborhood alot of times so it could be a while, since all I do is school and my house.
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Are you next to the campus? The site there right on campus could be getting loaded down with all the students.
FYI, standard UMTS 3G is only about 100kbps faster than EDGE. Its the HSPA that is fast, so when it takes your phone a second to switch to HSPA, is that when your talking about it being slow? Then its fast once it switchs to HSPA for the data?
4G CONNECTIONS ON YOUR CURRENT PHONE. NOW! MAYBE
Posted by Simon Walker on 17th March 2010
via ANDROIDSPIN.com
Well isn’t this just the week for wild rumors and tipsters.
We just received an anonymous tip informing us some of the carriers have been testing 3G/4G connectivity using existing cell phones that we already own. Apparently the carriers have piggy backed a different signal on the existing cell towers and this signal may be available for us to use.
We have no idea how valid this rumor is but we’ll be doing more investigating to see what we can find out so stay tuned for any updates. I sure don’t want to miss out on the opportunity of getting a 4G connection on my G1 and Nexus.
If you’ve heard anything, please leave us a comment.
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I am already working on implementing this into my ROM, it still is intermittent but I definitely can confirm a 4g connection.
and for the non believers:
cyanogen said:
I have some test code that can't be released yet, but I can confirm that it works on several devices.
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hey kudos for the forward on this, will def be implementing this code into my kernel (private branch, sorry)
Seriously guys, we are working around trying to play with this code and see what we can get out of it
Give us a few weeks, but we promise it will make you smile
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HSPA? 3.5G?
are you talking 3.5G aka HSPA 7.2?
Its gonna be a good 6 months to a year before most of us even get the HSPA tower upgrades.
This is exciting!
read my post they already exist, and they are already everywhere, they just havent been "opened" or "released" or "talked" about yet
screenshot of the network strength (4G) in settings please
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screenshot of the network strength (4G) in settings please
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relax and chill for a bit, its far too unstable as of now for any reliability at all, this was just discovered like an hour ago, when i have something stable or another dev here does we will post screenshots and post some **** for you guys to try
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read my post they already exist, and they are already everywhere, they just havent been "opened" or "released" or "talked" about yet
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Ben,
Where are you located?
I know they tested random towers (Baltimore) and have been rolling it out to some areas already... but I haven't heard any hype pointing to LA getting it yet.
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Ben,
Where are you located?
I know they tested random towers (Baltimore) and have been rolling it out to some areas already... but I haven't heard any hype pointing to LA getting it yet.
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this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
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this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
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no doubt bro.
by the by, people can stir up bs all they want, but I've never had any issues with you
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no doubt bro.
by the by, people can stir up bs all they want, but I've never had any issues with you
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Likewise~~
Yumm, this sounds exciting.
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this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
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I can confirm this in the Seattle area. we just launched hspa 7.2 upgrade in some networks and at the nok in snoqulmie BUT its not launched yet maybe you could gain intermittent access but not all the time. plus it would waste battery switching back and forth just an fyi might work really well downtown though.....
this was one of the reasons for the radio upgrade. and some of the phones on tmobiles network already has the hardware needed to access hspa
so what exactly is going on? My phone currently support 3.5G or HSDPA
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so what exactly is going on? My phone currently support 3.5G or HSDPA
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Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
blackerwater said:
Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
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...nice.
Here's the million dollar question.
...Will it work on our G1s?
G Zero said:
...nice.
Here's the million dollar question.
...Will it work on our G1s?
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YES 7.2mbps will (technically 3.5g) but close enough for us tmobile peps
blackerwater said:
Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
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i just want them to expand their 3g
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i just want them to expand their 3g
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in all actuality they are expanding there 3g hspa (high speed packet access) witch theoretically can reach speeds of 48 mbps but we will be moving to LTE before we reach those speeds. plus LTE will be cheaper
This is definitely something very interesting, I would love to run my nexus one at 4G.
Well, not sure if anyone else has had this issue with their G2 yet, but I got mine today and found that the 3G/HSPA+ (I'm in Austin and we're an HSPA+ location) doesn't work. Edge is working fine, wireless works fine, but I had no hi speed data.
Spent a while on the phone with T-Mobile and they tried everything. Swapped SIM cards for the new one, master reset, checked my coverage area, checked my account, etc. No dice. Phone has been deemed defective. Grrr...my brand new G2 birthday gift. Oh well, replacement is being shipped out.
oh that just sucks... oooooooo i need to get home and open mine also now! and pray for the H lol... hspa+ area also
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
The "H" means you definitely have HSPA. The only way you'll know the difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is probably the speed. Unless there's something in the testing menu that shows you the difference.
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it should actually say "H+" if you in a HSPA+ area
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
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The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
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you are correct.
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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Ellises said:
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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You probably won't until they throw the switches on in all areas of your town. only like 10% of the towers in mine actually use HSPA+... the other 90% at still on HPSA/UTMS. Give it more time...
This is the one single aspect about the G2 that kicks the N1's butt. The 3G connection and radio reliability is awesome! Everything else is a wash for me. I'm actually starting to like the keyboard a little, too.
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I git a h g the e my house sucks I only get e inside ill test it out speed test tomorrow when im not home
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Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
robertgibson said:
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
sccpmusc26 said:
I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
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Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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http://www.dailytech.com/TMobile+Expands+4GLike+HSPA+Network/article18741.htm
I've also called to verify. Columbia doesn't have HSPA+, Charleston does.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
sccpmusc26 said:
That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
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Oh wow, I feel retarded. In my defense, it's not marked on the map! I hope the Greenville/Anderson towers reach Clemson!
Telus 3G icon and H icon
If I can ask for one more clarification.
Up here in the Great White North I am with Telus who has HSPA+ coverage in my area : Montreal (no 2G available at all)
The icon on my Desire shows 3G unless I am accessing data then it flashes the H with the up and down arrows.
I am assume this is correct and the "H" only makes an appearance when it needs to access the data network. The rest of the time it stays as 3G
Important today as they had major connection issues and the H was not appearing even when I was trying to browse or update Facebook.
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I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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H is hsdpa
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Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
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Yeah. I've seen speedtests on youtube and the G2 has been so disappointing. I was all excited to see 8Mb download speeds then it gets... 600Kb? WTF is that?
Heck, in one video the dude tests the G1 and G2 side by side in Speedtest and the G1 won! This is enraging! HSPA+ is T-Mobiles biggest marketing tool right now yet they made no effort to even see if it worked.
We all know their network sucks right now, including myself, but Sprint is working on this. They are rolling out what's called "Sprint Vision" (and forgive my lack of technical know-how) basically they are adding some "boxes" with multiple "cards" that can be inserted in them allowing for better/faster coverage in multiple directions that can easily be fixed if one goes down by simply replacing this "card" (something to this degree). The full "vision" has not been rolled out yet and is mainly the cause why the speeds suck right now.
Oh God.... This sounds like they're trying to whip up a janky version of a CMTS (Cable Modem Termination System).
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Oh God.... This sounds like they're trying to whip up a janky version of a CMTS (Cable Modem Termination System).
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Hopefully it works lol
sounds like a band-aid to plug a hole.
Hopefully. I would like higher speeds than 400kbps plskthx.
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Hopefully. I would like higher speeds than 400kbps plskthx.
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hell id be happy with that lol im getting 100k or less some times
I read the announcement on this... its actually pretty good. The towers will now only need one refrigerated smaller box to do 4g 3g and 1x(saves energy and space) they will use fiber cables to the top instead of copper for less signal lose. They will need less towers because this one can do all of it.
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What's wrong with this setup? The cable co's use it, and in most instance it works well. The issues occur when there's over saturation - not enough blades to handle the load. Speeds go down, noise goes up, speeds go down more so... Perpetual cycle.
In fact, I recently had an issue with my cable provider where during prime time hours, speeds would drop 25-40% or more. At first look it would appear to be a capacity issue, but in my talks with the head of local operations, that wasn't the case. Plenty of capacity in this area to go around. Turned out during prime time, due to additional load, a failing card/blade (not the one I was connected to) was generating noise, which ultimately was causing my issues. They replaced the offending part, returning my speeds back to 20mbps at all times of the day.
Bottom line, who cares what method they use to increase speeds and bandwidth, so long as it works and is consistent.
Well it makes sense here..whatever it is...they might have it done in my area of Chicago....because a couple weeks ago 3g improved in a major way. Data downloads fast here now.
rockky said:
Well it makes sense here..whatever it is...they might have it done in my area of Chicago....because a couple weeks ago 3g improved in a major way. Data downloads fast here now.
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What speeds are you getting down in chicago? I'll be switching to sprint pretty soon so im kinda curious
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What speeds are you getting down in chicago? I'll be switching to sprint pretty soon so im kinda curious
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+1 i want to know what your speeds are
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+1 i want to know what your speeds are
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Yeah I would like to know too and I hope they do something about the 3g speeds in NYC / NJ .....its been horrible the last few months.
Yeah. Right.
If you're in an area where Sprint leases tower space like I am, you'll likely see this around the 34th of Never.
DarkAudit said:
Yeah. Right.
If you're in an area where Sprint leases tower space like I am, you'll likely see this around the 34th of Never.
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3-5 years, starting in 2011.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/sprint-announces-network-vision-network-evolution-plan.htm
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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Yeah. Right.
If you're in an area where Sprint leases tower space like I am, you'll likely see this around the 34th of Never.
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Didn't Sprint sell off all their towers to TowerCo in 2008, and leases all of them?
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Didn't Sprint sell off all their towers to TowerCo in 2008, and leases all of them?
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They do lease them. They still get to decide what goes on the towers.
afazel said:
Didn't Sprint sell off all their towers to TowerCo in 2008, and leases all of them?
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They didn't even have any to sell here. IIRC nTelos owns all the towers Sprint uses in WV.
I can vouch that my 3G signal is much, much nicer, it was upgraded in my area about a week ago. (And no, I'm not using an Airave.)
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I heard Verizon is leasing many Sprint towers - Although I could be wrong.
Overstew said:
I can vouch that my 3G signal is much, much nicer, it was upgraded in my area about a week ago. (And no, I'm not using an Airave.)
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What area are you in?
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Does anybody got 4G service from AT&T yet? How fast is it? What city are you in?
WhyBe said:
Does anybody got 4G service from AT&T yet? How fast is it? What city are you in?
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Check the dev forum, we can now sbf just the radio from the telstra 1.4.2 which unlocks hsupa. I've averaged about 100 for ping and 2 down/1.4 up in Connecticut. Other users have reported better increases as well as some with less, it will still depend on your area. Flashing the sbf is quick and easy (took me about 10 min to dl and flash) and I haven't had any other issues. Good luck.
Edit: 1.4.2 radio is not our "4g" its just hsupa. Thanks for the correction.
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Check the dev forum, we can now sbf just the radio from the telstra 1.4.2 which unlocks our "4g." I've averaged about 100 for ping and 2 down/1.4 up in Connecticut. Other users have reported better increases as well as some with less, it will still depend on your area. Flashing the sbf is quick and easy (took me about 10 min to dl and flash) and I haven't had any other issues. Good luck.
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I'm assuming that 4G has to be officially deployed in my area first?
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Check the dev forum, we can now sbf just the radio from the telstra 1.4.2 which unlocks our "4g." I've averaged about 100 for ping and 2 down/1.4 up in Connecticut. Other users have reported better increases as well as some with less, it will still depend on your area. Flashing the sbf is quick and easy (took me about 10 min to dl and flash) and I haven't had any other issues. Good luck.
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That's not exactly true. The Telstra radio is only for HSUPA. I get the impression that the op is talking more about download speed, but I could be wrong.
I believe I heard somewhere that they were working on the backhaul and it would be sometime before the end of the year. I don't think I have seen anything reliable about that though, mostly just hearsay and whatnot.
-Doogs™
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I'm assuming that 4G has to be officially deployed in my area first?
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you are correct, it has to come with increase backhaul at the cell sites, which has only been done in a few cities across the US. HSUPA has nothing to do with 4G. HSUPA is the upload component of HSPA, which most cell sites are on now (HSUPA is blocked on the Inspire and Atrix but not on the iPhone or Nexus One, etc). They will only be 4G or HSPA+ when increased backhaul is in place.
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That's not exactly true. The Telstra radio is only for HSUPA. I get the impression that the op is talking more about download speed, but I could be wrong.
I believe I heard somewhere that they were working on the backhaul and it would be sometime before the end of the year. I don't think I have seen anything reliable about that though, mostly just hearsay and whatnot.
-Doogs™
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Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
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Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
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Yeah it's a bit of sneaky marketing (though unfortunately not uncommon).
The phone is certainly capable, however the service is not.
-Doogs™
HSPA does not equal HSPA+.
The HSUPA update unlocks 3g speed, which is HSPA.
Without the HSUPA we are basically on crippled 3g.
HSPA+, or '4g' (more like 3.5g) will come when AT&T finally gets around to deploying the enhanced backhaul to your particular city or region.
WhyBe said:
Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
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http://www.att.com/network/#fbid=dhk1UG4sZJo
click on the coverage map, and run your mouse over the map. cities that have some backhaul in place will pop up like Chicago.
also, note their disclaimer anytime you see or read about 4G
*4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment.
WhyBe said:
Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
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AT&T's 4G network coverage map shows Baltimore as 4G enabled but I haven't seen any 4G speeds here. The fastest download speeds I have seen in Baltimore downtown area were close to 5.5Mbps. The recent radio mod does not seem to increase the download speeds.
Immix said:
AT&T's 4G network coverage map shows Baltimore as 4G enabled but I haven't seen any 4G speeds here. The fastest download speeds I have seen in Baltimore downtown area were close to 5.5Mbps. The recent radio mod does not seem to increase the download speeds.
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Welcome to AT&T '4g' lol.
MrCooper2012 said:
That's not exactly true. The Telstra radio is only for HSUPA. I get the impression that the op is talking more about download speed, but I could be wrong.
I believe I heard somewhere that they were working on the backhaul and it would be sometime before the end of the year. I don't think I have seen anything reliable about that though, mostly just hearsay and whatnot.
-Doogs™
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess I just got excited for any new radio that would give us what we pay for...
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Immix said:
AT&T's 4G network coverage map shows Baltimore as 4G enabled but I haven't seen any 4G speeds here. The fastest download speeds I have seen in Baltimore downtown area were close to 5.5Mbps. The recent radio mod does not seem to increase the download speeds.
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that is better than what I get! When I was in chicago a few months ago I saw the same speeds. your download speeds are much greater than my 3G speeds at 1.5-2 Mbps here in Denver. I assume that once more backhaul is in place across the country, that 5.5 number will go up. Also, I think I read somewhere on ATT's site that 6Mbps down would be typical of their 4G deployed this year. let me see if I can find where that is stated, I could be making it up
edit: here is that link
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
ATT Website said:
Question:
Just how fast is AT&T 4G?
Answer:
With enhanced backhaul AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6 Mbps. Actual speeds experienced will vary and depend on several factors, including location, device, environment, and capacity. LTE is expected to deliver even faster speeds.
Note: 4G speeds require a 4G device and are delivered when HSPA+ technology is combined with enhanced backhaul. 4G speeds are available in select cities with availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. For information on currently available 4G markets, see 4G Speed from AT&T and select the Coverage map.
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BBock9 said:
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess I just got excited for any new radio that would give us what we pay for...
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Yeah, no problem.
Also I occasionally try to get a response from AT&T about this, and as of a few minutes ago they responded to me on Facebook.
Random AT&T Rep on Facebook™ said:
The HSUPA upgrade is coming soon! As for 4G we've already expanded HSPA+ to virtually 100 percent of our mobile broadband network. That combined with expanded backhaul produces 4G speeds. We expect about 2/3 of our mobile broadband traffic to be carried over expanded backhaul by the end of the year, but we don't have an ETA to share on Dallas quite yet. Thanks for your patience!
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So it seems it's just more of the same for a while longer.
-Doogs™
I assume that once more backhaul is in place across the country, that 5.5 number will go up.
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Why do you assume that? I would assume the opposite really, though I would hope it won't be noticeable. I would assume once a tower is connected it is connected and that the more towers you connect the less bandwidth there is left to share.
catfarm said:
Why do you assume that? I would assume the opposite really, though I would hope it won't be noticeable. I would assume once a tower is connected it is connected and that the more towers you connect the less bandwidth there is left to share.
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I assume this because once they get the enhanced backhaul in place, they can continue to "enhance" said backhaul and not let it get stagnant. of course, that may take a while. but, this is just an assumption and has no scientific backing
Wait, so this update coming out this month isn't even supposed to bring '4G' (HSPA+)? It's only supposed to bring us to full '3G', and later this year we get the full '4G'?
I'd be happy with just having 3g installed where I am!
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This is a why I am so happy about the AT&T and T-Mobile merger. Regardless of it going through and no matter how long it drags on, part of it was a big roaming agreement. I am being optimistic that includes 4G because my area has T-Mobile's 21mb speed. I could handle that.
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