Hi all, it is my first thread at xda
I just want to confirm if the samsung focus will work in the UK for 3G. I apologise if this has been brought up already (I found a similar thread, which says it should work for UMTS 1900/2100, but I just want a confirmation)
Omnia 7 Bands: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Focus Bands: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
I wanted the Omnia 7 because of its better look, but I want to put all my songs into my phone so the Focus would be a better buy considering the possibility of getting a 32GB microSD card!
Thanks!
Well that would entirely depend on what carrier you connect. If you connect to a carrier that runs their 3G network on the 850MHz, 1900MHz, or 2100MHz band, you'll be fine.
Also you should note that 32GB cards in the Focus don't seem to be very reliable yet.
TheGuitarPlayer said:
Well that would entirely depend on what carrier you connect. If you connect to a carrier that runs their 3G network on the 850MHz, 1900MHz, or 2100MHz band, you'll be fine.
Also you should note that 32GB cards in the Focus don't seem to be very reliable yet.
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UK carriers do not use 850 and 1900 band. Although 2100Mhz 3G band is a common band for EU, if the particular carriers also uses 900 or 1800Mhz band, you maybe in trouble.
Thanks for the replies!!
In that case I will go for Omnia 7then, and get myself a MP3 player meanwhile. It's a shame that omnia 7 only has 8/16GB, even my omnia i900 can support 16+32 GB!!
You will find out that Focus doesn't really work well with majority of the microSD cards out there anyway.
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Pardon my ignorance but isn't the US version of this device only UMTS 850/1900? If so how is it that T-Mobile (which I understand uses UMTS 1700/2100) will sale this device subsidized? What am I missing?
Jw where did u get that information, it might be true but that wouldn't make any sense. I definitely think it will support 3g, or similar to the Nexus1 that only supports T-mobile 3g.
From PDADB.NET
This is the site where I found the specifications for HTC HD2 US: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Umm I think that site is misleading b/c it has 2 differently spec'd HD2s
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2059&c=t-mobile_htc_touch_hd2_htc_leo
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Maybe that answers your question?
There are two different versions
The US verion is named HTC HD2 US and the Eropean version HTC HD2. Basically the only difference is that the UMTS frequencies are different in the two devices.
First off, PDAdb is trash. TRASH.
The HD2 US is referring to the TMOBILE USA version which runs on 1700/2100 UMTS. There's no such HD2 having 850/1900 UMTS (AFAIK). The closest you'll come to having AT&T 3G is the Telstra version (there's thread is on the front page) which has 850/2100.
I've decided to get an HD2, but I do not know if I should get the T8585 or T9193. I understand that they have different bands, but is there any other difference (aussie models)?
I don't know anything about the different bands. Currently I am just using a virgin prepaid sim. I'm not interested in a contract at the moment, so I'll likely continue with that. I am in Cairns, Australia.
Given this information, can anyone help me decide what model would be best for me?
bumpitty bump
If I'm not mistaken,
T9 is the only model that would give you 3g.
I think you are right. That the T9193 is the only one that would get true 3g speeds (on NextG). But given that I am not with Telstra, can I get NextG anyway?
Will the virgin sim work in the phone?
Thanks.
if you stay on virgin, get the T8585. (Yes the sim should work in the phone, assuming it isn't sim locked.)
virgin uses the optus network, which uses the bands
gsm
900/1800 for voice, gprs and edge
and
2100/900 for dual band high speed.
The 8585 has
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900,
UMTS900, UMTS2100
so its a full match
The 9193 however has 850/2100 UMTS so you would only get a single band high speed connection on the 2100.
I can't use the HSPA 850 on t8585 model (Ecuador latin America).
Only GSM 850 band.
Can I hack the phone??? Or is impossible?
these are the bands for the t8585
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900,
UMTS900, UMTS2100
so you will only get data (hsdpa umts 3G) on 900/2100
850 will only give you edge.
No you cannot hack it, it is fixed in the hardware. Sorry.
samsamuel said:
these are the bands for the t8585
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900,
UMTS900, UMTS2100
so you will only get data (hsdpa umts 3G) on 900/2100
850 will only give you edge.
No you cannot hack it, it is fixed in the hardware. Sorry.
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Thanks my friend. Have a nice day.
You need the T9193 Model. It's the Telstra Australian version. I got one.
Sorry I had to mention that because I'm proud I feel like I'm "beating the system" and actually using the phones I want on the network I want.
no att lte band , damn im disappointed.
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The SGH-i317 is the correct one, no?
I'm trying to avoid the same disappointment up here in Canada on Fido/Rogers. From what I've read, the SGH-i317 supports both AT&T and Fido/Rogers.
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Official release for the USA LTE Note2 is 24th October i read earlier today.
Just need to know where we can get an unlocked LTE phone compatible with our LTE bands in Canada.. =(
I'm hoping that I can pick one up at the Samsung store in Vancouver when they're available.
exparanoia: do you agree that the sgh-i317 is the correct model?
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fogducker said:
I'm hoping that I can pick one up at the Samsung store in Vancouver when they're available.
exparanoia: do you agree that the sgh-i317 is the correct model?
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karthigan said:
So with regards to reply for Pat above, it appears we have multiple model #s for the Galaxy Note 2, with the following Cellular Networks that is supported:
Samsung SGH-i317 Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung GT-N7105 Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung SCH-R950 Galaxy Note II LTE
CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14), CDMA1700/2100 (BC15)
Samsung SCH-i605 Galaxy Note II LTE
Dual:Cellular-Network_Operation: Parallel operation
Secondary+Cellular+Networks: CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14), LTE700 (B13)
Secondary+Cellular_Data+Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A, LTE
Samsung SPH-L900 Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung SHV-E250S Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung Galaxy Note II SC-02E
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS800 (B6), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung SCH-N719 Galaxy Note 2 CDMA
CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14)
So, which one to choose ? LOL! I wish the Canadian Carriers Release the Model #s!!!
Given the fact that the Canadian Carriers - Operate on the 700MHz (Band 17) / 2100MHz (Band 7) frequencies for their LTE Network anyways & 3G is on 850/1900 Mhz (GSM), I think the safe-bet models would be: SGH-i317, SPH-L900 & GT-N7105.
Also, Bell Canada (which shares the LTE Network with Telus) - All of them operate on the bands: 700 Mhz / 2100 Mhz (AWS) for their LTE Networks.
This is not to be confused with AWS Freqency for Wind Mobile, Mobilicity, etc. carriers
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According to this, apparently.
What is the difference between the first two if all the bands are identical?
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So am I correct when I assume that there will pretty much be two versions of the phone with LTE compatibility, one on GSM and one on CDMA, because the list of the ones above, all of them have the same basebands for GSM, but there are 4 different models.
So which one would I need to get for it to work with ATT, TMOBILE, and any other GSM carrier? besides having it unlocked?
Do you recommend I get a european version which already comes unlocked, or just get a branded one to a carrier and get it unlocked? Please advise.
elite-fusion said:
So am I correct when I assume that there will pretty much be two versions of the phone with LTE compatibility, one on GSM and one on CDMA, because the list of the ones above, all of them have the same basebands for GSM, but there are 4 different models.
So which one would I need to get for it to work with ATT, TMOBILE, and any other GSM carrier? besides having it unlocked?
Do you recommend I get a european version which already comes unlocked, or just get a branded one to a carrier and get it unlocked? Please advise.
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You need to first decide whether LTE is important to you or not. If it is, you need to wait for the SGH-i317 which supports "North American LTE". If LTE is not important to you, the 7100 will do the trick.
I live in a LTE zone in Canada but opted for the 7100 (no LTE) after reading some battery & performance reports. HSPA+ speeds are just fine for my needs and I spend 90% of my time in WiFi zones anyways. Battery life is on the top of my list.
YMMV
fogducker said:
HSPA+ speeds are just fine for my needs and I spend 90% of my time in WiFi zones anyways. Battery life is on the top of my list.
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Um, using WiFi drains the battery more than using 3G/4G LTE. WiFi will obviously save you in terms of data usage if you don't have an unlimited plan, but won't save your battery.
I did some tests on my Razr Maxx and WiFi used almost twice the amount of battery by itself than only using 4G.
Save your batteries. Turn WiFi off if you're not using it, and use it as little as possible.
elite-fusion said:
So am I correct when I assume that there will pretty much be two versions of the phone with LTE compatibility, one on GSM and one on CDMA, because the list of the ones above, all of them have the same basebands for GSM, but there are 4 different models.
So which one would I need to get for it to work with ATT, TMOBILE, and any other GSM carrier? besides having it unlocked?
Do you recommend I get a european version which already comes unlocked, or just get a branded one to a carrier and get it unlocked? Please advise.
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Why not wait til next week (24th) to see if T-Mobile will release their own version?
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Um, using WiFi drains the battery more than using 3G/4G LTE. WiFi will obviously save you in terms of data usage if you don't have an unlimited plan, but won't save your battery.
I did some tests on my Razr Maxx and WiFi used almost twice the amount of battery by itself than only using 4G.
Save your batteries. Turn WiFi off if you're not using it, and use it as little as possible.
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I agree that WiFI isn't free, but I wouldn't have guessed that it was that much less efficient than LTE.
I'd be curious to know how different signal strengths affect both WiFi and LTE. For example: would people on the fringe realize 25% more drain than those in 'hot' zones? I'm also curious if 5GHz performs any better than 2.4GHz w.r.t. power consumption.
My 7100 was shipped today - can't wait to get my hands on it!
fogducker said:
You need to first decide whether LTE is important to you or not. If it is, you need to wait for the SGH-i317 which supports "North American LTE". If LTE is not important to you, the 7100 will do the trick.
I live in a LTE zone in Canada but opted for the 7100 (no LTE) after reading some battery & performance reports. HSPA+ speeds are just fine for my needs and I spend 90% of my time in WiFi zones anyways. Battery life is on the top of my list.
YMMV
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I did the same. Loving my new toy right now.
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achusaysblessyou said:
Why not wait til next week (24th) to see if T-Mobile will release their own version?
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Yep. That is what I am doing, but I want to have the ability to switch between T-Mobile and ATT if I do decide to do so. I know if I get the NON LTE, it will be HSPA+ but will not work on ATT 4G or any other GSM carriers 4G, but if I do get the LTE version, will it work with both HSPA+ and 4G LTE?
I am going to be waiting until the 24th, afterall just two more days left. But either way, if I buy the phone flat out so I can get the monthly $50 for everything unlimited, I would want to get the phone unlocked, to have the ability to switch carriers at any time, so question being...as stated above, so that I know which carrier to get from so that it is the LTE version so I can unlock it and use it accordingly.
Not true for me...
fogducker said:
I agree that WiFI isn't free, but I wouldn't have guessed that it was that much less efficient than LTE.
I'd be curious to know how different signal strengths affect both WiFi and LTE. For example: would people on the fringe realize 25% more drain than those in 'hot' zones? I'm also curious if 5GHz performs any better than 2.4GHz w.r.t. power consumption.
My 7100 was shipped today - can't wait to get my hands on it!
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I don't know what the difference would be... but my Nexus One uses a lot less battery on WiFi than on my normal 3G network at my house. Maybe signal strength is the issue? I don't know... but I always have WiFi on when I'm home to save on battery life and it works amazing.
So, this device looks pretty sweet. And it might be a good upgrade from my Note 4. The only question I have is, will it get LTE on T-Mobile?
Since this whole sub-forum is dead, I guess I'll have to wait until some people get their hands on it over here.
I am also wondering the same thing but C9000 doesn't support any of the TMO LTE Bands. Need to wait for Samsung to release the C900F in the future
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In Germany are available these networks:
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I use it in UK on EE network and i get 4g with it. no issues so far
I'm in the Netherlands, and I'm waiting for the C900F to come out. Anyone know when is gonna come out?
SM-C900F/DS arrived allready >>> http://www.samsung.com/in/microsite/galaxy-c9-pro/
criszz said:
SM-C900F/DS arrived allready >>> http://www.samsung.com/in/microsite/galaxy-c9-pro/
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Thanx. But still not in Europe It's expensive in India, plus those units have region lock. Anyone know where I can order one without region lock?
Singapore phone are all unlock but not sure of export set. C9 cost ard $600 for export set.
orbital_71 said:
Singapore phone are all unlock but not sure of export set. C9 cost ard $600 for export set.
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Thanx. Any good website you can recommend?
I have the Asian version which was bought in Hong Kong.
I can confirm it doesn't work with O2 and partly with 3 (Three)
When i say partly with 3 (Three) is because it will pick up LTE on the 1800 MHz where available and not the 800MHz
Whereas o2 is completely on the 800MHz range and therefore unhelpful.
4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know
according to the above link, you can get LTE on frequencies 1800MHz and 2600MHz depending what mobile provider you are with and the availability in your area.
Bottomline, 800MHz/Band 20 isnt supported on the C9 PRO.
My question is are the supported Bands software or hardware enabled??
If it possible to unlock the 800MHz via software??
zakun82 said:
Bottomline, 800MHz/Band 20 isnt supported on the C9 PRO.
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SM-C900F should support 800MHz/B20.
This is what I found to compare.
T-Mobile uses these bands:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5)
UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE2600 (B7), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1900 (B2), LTE700 (B12)
The Galaxy C9 is compatible with these bands:
2G bands: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900,
3G bands: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100,
4G bands: LTE2100 (B1), TD-SCDMA2000, TD-SCDMA1900, LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), TD-LTE2500 (B41), TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE1900 (B39).
The important numbers to look at are T-Mobile using 850/900/1800/1900 and the C9 getting 850/900/1800/1900/2100. That covers what we need for what T-Mobile calls 3G. Note: What T-Mobile calls G3 is called G4 by other companies. Thus what they call 4G is 4G LTE only. So by these numbers, T-Mobile actually gets 4G. IF I understood correctly what I read
As for 4G LTE T-Mobile uses B1/B2/B3/B4/B5 and B12.
Of the T-Mobile bands, the C9 is compatible with only B1 and B3 as well as a bunch of irrelevant ones. This means that if you are in an area where T-Mobile is using B1 or B3, you are in luck and will get 4G LTE. If not, you will have to be happy with 4G.
However, I came here trying to find out how to set it up and which of three slots to put my T-Moblile SIMM card into, so this didn't help me at all.
I hope it helped you!!
RemoWilliams said:
SM-C900F should support 800MHz/B20.
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Ugh, I finally received the C9 Pro C900F/DS for my wife (got it from Malaysia), and turns out I was mistaken after all: It does NOT have Band 20 (I used 'LTE Discovery' app to check). I was under the assumption that Samsung's "F" models are the global variants, and always have Band 20. I guess I was wrong.
anyone using the C9 pro in Canada? is it compatible with any service provider's LTE?
Mine was able to use the 3G HSPA + before I update to 7.1.1. After official update, I only can use EDGE. I need help!!!! How do I know is my hardware problem or the software problem??