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Skype Mobile apk on T-Mo?

Is there any chance the Skype mobile apk file could be modified to work on T-Mo network?
Of course this thread might get the easy answers such as:
1) "No"
2) "It cant be done"
3) "It checks verizon's network?"
... but I'd be happier to hear from experts that know how it actually works/could be done.
Verizon skype apk: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rnwab1

No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.

Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off

Paul22000 said:
No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.
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LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul

ap3604 said:
LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul
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: P
Check out my second post (we posted at same time)
This might also help: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=264ef8ddf7c82bcc&hl=en

Paul22000 said:
Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off
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Yeah your right it is pretty crappy that Skype put those restrictions on it by sleeping with the enemy (Big Red).
I was just going to see if it could work on T-Mo though because then I could get my family members to use it as well and make good quality voip calls like I could on the iPhone version.
SIPdroid is dear to my heart but the quality on outbound calls is pretty unusable for me, inbound is still good though. I tell all my friends that "if you get a call from me, dont pick up and just call me back."
Fring 3g quality was serviceable before but it was laggy (I would say something and the other person would start talking and then mid sentence would hear what I said and it would mess up the conversation). It probably has had some updates though so I will try it out again.

dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.

3 has got this for a long time now (no Android client yet) but the acctual calling is routed using a gsm center, no VOIP at all. I have installed the apk for t-mobile and it almost does the same thing ( it doesn't work outside tm network)

superg81 said:
dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.
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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?

http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!

Paul22000 said:
http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?
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Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)

ap3604 said:
Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)
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How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..

Paul22000 said:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!
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so does that mean I won't have to pay a monthly bill? I can just basically, use my google voice number through wifi?

ram130 said:
Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..
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@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?

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What do you have set for Google Voice settings?
Use for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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ask only for international calls. I have not setup vonage yet, gonna do it now and see what is possible. I'll update ya in a few.

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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On my end I can guarantee that its making the calls through WiFi because of the data only plan I am on. T-Mo has two different types of $40/mo data plans:
1) $40/mo with T-mo hotspot access but cannot make ANY calls (except 911)
2) $40/mo without T-mo hotspot access but can make calls for $.10/min
I have the first option and if I try to make a regular call it says "the service you are attempting to use has been restricted or unavailable" and hangs up. Even if I try to make a call through GVoice it says the same thing so I know I cant make any cellular calls. But I can make a call through the Vonage app with WiFi (although I do have to have on Edge/3g with the WiFi your right).
I just checked my T-Mobile account as well and I dont see any minutes used either.
Now if only we can get this thing to think its on WiFi even if only on 3g!

Paul22000 said:
@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...

ap3604 said:
I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...
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When I set GV to not call intercept, it will just call using my normal phone number. Vonage just sits there doing nothing.
A few times the Vonage dialer has popped up (if I had GV set to make ALL calls), but then Vonage crashed (Force Close).
Bleh, must be an issue with the Desire caller =\

Fring is flawless with skype dumb easy to setup for idiots like myself
I use it w/o a simcard in my g1 and keep my sim in the n1
I tried this vonage doesn't seem to work with the sim card out or in...if any one can post the correct steps to make domestic calls over wifi on the vonage app please(w/o a sim card it the only sure way to know its using wifi only)

UMA calling coming to android?

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/motorola-charm-to-include-uma/
This story is of particular interest to me as I think UMA is a kickass feature. Does anybody know anything about how this is going to work on the charm? Does anyone have a system dump of the charm rom yet? I'd love to poke around and see what's in there.
If I could get UMA working on my nexus I'd never need another phone. I can't even count how many times my wife has been able to use her blackberry via wifi to make calls and then makes fun of my 'superphone'. ...sigh...

It's called Google Voice.

GldRush98 said:
It's called Google Voice.
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Not really; it's not a replacement for UMA. You can't be in a dead zone and be making/receiving calls and texts over WiFi only.

pakraider said:
Not really; it's not a replacement for UMA. You can't be in a dead zone and be making/receiving calls and texts over WiFi only.
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I do that with Google Voice and Sipdroid currently

ram130 said:
I do that with Google Voice and Sipdroid currently
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I guess you can hack a solution if you give everyone your Google Voice number (or forward all calls to it), and have it forwarded to a DID or other number, having that number expose SIP credentials (or use in conjunction with Gizmo/PBXes/Sip Sorcery), and finally use Sipdroid to register and receive calls and dial out. Whew.
Not that I haven't done it before , but that is hardly what UMA can do for you; a seamless connection to the provider without the need of any of that mumbo jumbo (not to mention reliance on everything in your VoIP chain working smoothly all the time)
just out of curiosity though; do you have your setup such that all of your calls/texts are sent/received through the same number so that it's all transparent to everyone else?

pakraider said:
I guess you can hack a solution if you give everyone your Google Voice number (or forward all calls to it), and have it forwarded to a DID or other number, having that number expose SIP credentials (or use in conjunction with Gizmo/PBXes/Sip Sorcery), and finally use Sipdroid to register and receive calls and dial out. Whew.
Not that I haven't done it before , but that is hardly what UMA can do for you; a seamless connection to the provider without the need of any of that mumbo jumbo (not to mention reliance on everything in your VoIP chain working smoothly all the time)
just out of curiosity though; do you have your setup such that all of your calls/texts are sent/received through the same number so that it's all transparent to everyone else?
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I would have to admit, it was a bit of pain(time) to setup. It does fine as an UMA replacement until T-Mobile decide that their coverage is not perfect enough yet and work with google to implement.
As for my setup. Well once I go underground, anyone with my regular mobile number can call and reach me as if I was on T-Mobile same way. As for texts, nope, not yet at least, they would have to text my google number. The only bad side about this setup is that sipdroid does not keep the call going over wifi with the screen off. So your phone gets rather hot after 30mins. Go figure.
Also thanks to this setup, I also take calls on my laptop with both linux and Windows..
One last thing to note since the Charm has UMALite. A user commented on that TmoNews link and said this:
Only calls can be made via UMA. Text/VM notification/MMS will not go work. So like on a TMO Blackberry, UMA gives you full functionality via UMA. UMALite does not. Oh and one more thing,if you originate a call via UMALite, it will not hand it over to gsm or vice versa.
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+ 1 on this.i have heard the vibrant has this feature but i cannot verify.i have sent the developer of the vibrant for cm several messages regarding this issue and cannot get a response.ive even offered a reward to someone that can successfully port it to my nexus.i had a bberry with this feature and its awesome when you are in a building most of the day and have no signal.all of these other features mentioned in this thread,while excellent in their own way,are no comparison to UMA.
InGeNeTiCs said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/motorola-charm-to-include-uma/
This story is of particular interest to me as I think UMA is a kickass feature. Does anybody know anything about how this is going to work on the charm? Does anyone have a system dump of the charm rom yet? I'd love to poke around and see what's in there.
If I could get UMA working on my nexus I'd never need another phone. I can't even count how many times my wife has been able to use her blackberry via wifi to make calls and then makes fun of my 'superphone'. ...sigh...
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Calling over wifi? I thought I was already doing that.

Check out the screen capture I included. I have zero bars of coverage, but a full strength signal on my wifi connection. I browse the web and make calls like this all the time since there is basically no service in my house. How does UMA or wifi calling differ from this?

You're nor using wifi for calling... lol. Vibrant often times shows Jo bars, yet it works with no issuesn turn off wifi and you wont even drop a call as you're not using it to make them in the first place.
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Aspeds2989 said:
Check out the screen capture I included. I have zero bars of coverage, but a full strength signal on my wifi connection. I browse the web and make calls like this all the time since there is basically no service in my house. How does UMA or wifi calling differ from this?
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Well depending on which firmware you're running the signal bar display isn't the most accurate representation of your connection anyway.
If you assumed, because you had a display with no bars that you were somehow magically making WiFi calls, you were just mistaken.

afive720 said:
You're nor using wifi for calling... lol. Vibrant often times shows Jo bars, yet it works with no issuesn turn off wifi and you wont even drop a call as you're not using it to make them in the first place.
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I see. So basically the bar status is always incorrect then.. Faulty?
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Well depending on which firmware you're running the signal bar display isn't the most accurate representation of your connection anyway.
If you assumed, because you had a display with no bars that you were somehow magically making WiFi calls, you were just mistaken.
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I'm using Bionix 1.3 and when I was using stock it was the same deal so I guess theyre all busted. Thanks.

UMA is use with wifi... explanation: It give u the ability to talk over wifi. If u have minutes plan it doesn't waste your minutes. That's the way UMA works. I hope this information was helpful.
I had that plan on my Blackberry. Before it was only for Blackberries devices. Now they are doing it for Android phones.

give a simple test turn off you wifi and make a call to 611.

Ok I understand the difference now.
Just to make sure, I'm guessing these settings are also being incorrectly displayed..
Edit: I'm talking about the signal strength which is saying 0 dBm 0 asu and the mobile network state that says its disconnected.

His rom is based off of JFD obviously and the bars/signal strength are busted on JFD. It will only read as high as -81dBm (wrong), has poor scaling (-97dBm/-111dBm/-0dBm after an RSSI of about -100 (on GSM), etc.
^Fixed on JI_. It would bounce between -0 dBm and like -89dBm.

Oh so it seems this is another thing we're waiting on JIT for to fix. Thanks.

lrobles787 said:
UMA is use with wifi... explanation: It give u the ability to talk over wifi. If u have minutes plan it doesn't waste your minutes. That's the way UMA works. I hope this information was helpful.
I had that plan on my Blackberry. Before it was only for Blackberries devices. Now they are doing it for Android phones.
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If you don't have the UMA @Home plan, you can still use UMA, it just uses your regular minutes.
Fail-safe way to know you aren't calling through Wi-Fi - turn ON Airplane Mode then turn Wi-Fi on and try to make a call, it won't work.

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Oh so it seems this is another thing we're waiting on JIT for to fix. Thanks.
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Well not JIT (java compiler whatever in FroYo) but JI2 and JI4 (I didn't know the version we would be getting OTA so I just put an underscore). I have JI4 in that shot but there is no difference between the two. It's fixed. The bars do refresh often, much more often than HTC and Motorola allows their phones to so it will show service fluctuation quicker, that's unchanged. But it won't dip below 0 bars unless your service is below -109dBm in the Android system (Samsung seems to have their own backend that translates stuff to Android, it's readings can be different but we won't go into that)

I thought the blue circle with a slash meant no service. Not the 0 bars
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You can make calls over wifi/3g now. Just requires somewhat of a lengthy set up. Quality is not super great but here are the steps if anyone is interested.
*rough draft*
Steps
1)Before we start do you have a google voice account..if yes go to step 2 if not go to the google voice homepage and sign up for a free number.Keep the page open...and open another tab
2) go to sipgate.com sign up for a free account (you will have to give your cellnumber to recieve a key to confirm your new free account). You can remove your cell number from the settings page later.(You can choose to install their softphone software now or later doesn't really matter) Be sure to keep open the Sipgate and google voice pages. You will be navigating between both.
3) Once you receive your free number from sipgate..(it will be a random number from california) go to the settings page copy the number sipgate given you , navigate to go google voice and add the sipgate number as the number google voice forwards to. Also make sure the number is set as a home number.
4) You will have to verify that number..with google voice..this when you will have to install the softphone software by sipgate. Have google voice call your sipgate number..and through the softphone dial paid just hit the 2 digit number given by google voice to confirm the sipgate number. (You can removed the sipgate software from your computer now)
5) The software i use to make outbound or receive calls..is sipdroid and gvoice callback which are both located in the marketplace and free. Download them both. There are other alternatives , but these are the two programs i used.
6) Once you installed both apps...open up sipdroid go to the settings-> sip account settings... now navigate back to sipgate settings page move your mouse cursor over the voip phone icon and click on credentials. Look at sipdroid now..and input the sip ID provided by sipgate as your authorization name in sipdroid ,the password, and the server is sipgate.com
7. Once you input everything.. sipdroid should register and you should see a green dot in your notification bar. Now open up Gvoice callback put your google voice account details in and put your callback number...as your sipgate number. For the callback setting you can set it as always..or ask it doesnt matter ...up to you. That should be it. ( I have mine to ask)
8. To test if you set up everything correctly turn on wifi...and put your phone into airplane mode. make a call ...there should be a prompt to make the call through gvoice callback once you make the call the sipdroid dialer will come up..and you will receive an incoming call from your sipgate number..just slide your finger up accept call and google voice will connect you to your actual call. As for receiving calls your contacts will have to dial your google number and sipdroid has to be running to pick up the call. Once you accept the incoming call hit 1 on the dialpad and your connected with the other person on the other line.
*Another tip..to make sure you have everything setup correctly is..sipgate gives you 60 free minutes to make outbound calls..you should only use a minute or 2 confirming the number with google...if you notice your mins going down then you probably messed up somewhere.*
Personal Experience
From my experience the call quality...is decent there is minor echoing that can be heard only by the person on the other end..but hey its free. You can also make calls of over 3g. Be sure to turn off sipdroid when you are not going to rly use it because..it can take a drain on the battery as it ..constantly registers itself. I read that you can setup pbxes..to route your inbound and outbound calls..which can help call quality and battery life as its tcp instead of udp , but it was too confusing for me to figure out.
Anyways I hope this information helps... whoever is curious about making free voip calls

Verizon Galaxy Tab as a Phone (partial) Workaround.

Hi Folks,
So I am not a programmer but an avid user of technology. On my tab I can:
Send and receive SMS to my permanent number, and when someone calls me, the call is forwarded to my work cell. Out bound calls go from my work phone (with or without Google Voice). Or I can use the Google Voice web interface to dial and then Google calls my work phone and the other phone.
The Tab # call forwarding is as far as I can tell not an official feature offered by VZW. In fact most of the folks I spoke to, at VZW, swore up and down that it wouldn't work.
Here is what I did:
Activated call forwarding from the regular cell on my permanent line.
Got a Tab, with its own #. Then swapped the two numbers and the call forwarding stuck.
I think there are about 4 people out there that this will be useful for but none the less all 5 of us will revel in our geekyness. (Insert mad scientist laughter here)
The advantage of all this is that I can finally get my SMS messages without carrying 2 "phones" (yes now I carry a tab and a work phone, that is bulkier package, yes, stop pointing out the obvious. This is only for a total of me and the 4 others remember? haha)
PS. Any programmers reading this, a clean Dialer app for the Tab that interfaces with the Google web dial feature would be awesome.

Hey I'm one of those four that appreciates the suggestion and idea! Ended up borrowing a friends old turd phone to port my ATT number to Verizon on. After it was activated and working I setup call forwarding to forward to my Skype number then immediately had them transfer that number to my new unactivated Galaxy Tab.
Works great have my same old cell phone number that I can text and pictures message and at the same time get calls automatically sent to my Skype so it's transparent to everyone calling me. Went ahead and set up Caller ID on Skype to appear as that same old cell phone number.
Thanks works great here as well hopefully they don't disable that down the line .

i just dont get why people would buy sprint or verizon tab? you can't do much with them, to me the GSM versions are the best.

Verizon has much better 3G coverage then both ATT and T-Mobile combined. Add to that Skype calling is $2.99 a month unlimited and works pretty great. Consider those using Skype need some strong and consistant 3G traveling.

Does this work with a Bluetooth ?

Morkai Almandragon said:
Does this work with a Bluetooth ?
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Current modded Skype app (allows 3G calling) supports media profile only meaning only sound no mic support from the bluetooth headset. It's not that bad in my opinion you just need the tab in your immediate space.
Apparently it's partially a limitation with the Skype app, there is a much newer version out that might have added full bluetooth support but I haven't seen anyone mod it for 3G calling yet (keeping eyes peeled).

Maybe not everyone wants to make carrier based calls on their Tab? I know I have no desire to do that. I have a Sprint Tab and can do exactly what I want with it. I don't need a 7" phone. I bought my EVO for that =)
Carrier based calls on my cell and voip calls on my Tab for when I am going to have long work related calls (once they fix the BT profile that is)

I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.

WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm still new to android. Do you mind explaining how you set up superior with google voice. Don't know how to use superior.

WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm also using sipdroid to make free calls thru google voice but how do you configure sipdroid to receive calls thru your google voice number? Bluetooth works for me though
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I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.

Honestly for what Skype cost a month for unlimited calling in the US and Canada ($2.99 a month) it's a hard to beat option. I simply forward my cellphone/tab number and GV# to Skype and I have Skype caller ID setup to display my GV# when I make calls out.
Add in the latest release 1.0.0.614 (1.0.1) fixes every single shortfall with the Skype app including more notifications for chat and everything else, no more signing out / time outs (8 hours strong without touching the tab still signed in and running), contact integration, etc. I'm using a modded apk for 614 that allows incoming and outgoing calls on 3G and it works without issue.
I may look into Sipdroid and Sipgate as alternatives but for the price Skype works great and has a great backbone as well (considering it's size and use).

Can you post the link for .614? ....
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Well I hit the dreaded bug we've been experiencing on 614 since adding the 3G hack "Already 2 ongoing calls, you must end one call before you can start another one". So it worked great and then now road block , reboot and flush and still the same thing it's like it magically can't call out from 3G (strange).
I'll report as I figure it out.

beestee said:
I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.
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Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?

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Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?
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Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?

i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*

Coolsaber57 said:
Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?
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Sorry. Yes, over a bluetooth headset.

magnum_touchpro said:
i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*
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With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
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woneill1701 said:
With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
Sent from my SGH-I987 using XDA Premium App
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thanks i have it set up and will test it out when i switch over to 3g, my plan was to switch over to 3g and disable the phone but if someone calls my tmobile # it can forward to google voice and ring me while on 3g.. hopefully this works lol

Bounty for Wifi Calling ??

How can we get this badboy working with wifi calling, im well aware of tmobiles IMS service and how difficult it will be ( nothings impossible with XDA ) to get Tmobiles wifi calling working on this phone .. but im sure that some people like myself really depend on it !! Socal area sucks Id be willing to put 30$ towards the bounty to get this started .. anyone else interested ?

Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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ac3theone said:
Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck

alleyezondisromo said:
It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck
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I too would be willing to donate to this cause. However, I've been testing with GrooveIP over Wifi, and it works extremely well. Call quality is excellent and you can use it for incoming and outgoing calls without using your plan minutes. I'm using the $5 pro version which integrates with the native dialer, so you makes calls just like you would normally. I know this isn't the same thing as T-Mobile's Wifi calling, but it's a good solution nonetheless.

Best chances of it happening will be when opitmus g with JB is released by T-Mobile. Need system dump with rils, maybe some libs and maybe an apk will be in there. That's what we had to do with the G2 and many older devices when ICS came out. But might be a few months before u see anything. I heard rumors T-Mobile are setting up SIP support but its just rumors

I second the endorsement of GrooVe IP. I don't have my N4 yet (caught in Play Store limbo, like so many others), but in anticipation I've been testing GrooVe IP lightly on my LG G2x and have found it to be very good, with audio quality noticeably better than wifi calling.

sipdroid with a free pbxes account. disable all codecs except speex. excellent.
I really wish google would improve the native sip client...

i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..

I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.

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I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.
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Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?

It might be possible if the T-Mobile version of the LG Optimus phones with the same hardware have it. Assuming someone can hack it together, and the differences in OS aren't a show stopper.

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Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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My testing has mostly been by calling my other voicemail line and listening to the recording, so it's only been short segments, but I haven't detected any echoes or dropouts so far.

I've made hour long calls to landline and mobiles with absolutely no drops or issues. In fact the quality is better than what I experienced on vzw. I would say it is on par with my FiOS landline phone. It will of course depend on the quality of your WiFi connection, particularly jitter and latency.
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arvonn said:
i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..
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try giving T-mobile a call, they might give you a cell booster

donec said:
Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.

dellenrules said:
I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.

wmm said:
Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.
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I didn't realize google voice costs $20 to port my number to them. PLus the $5 for GrooVe IP, I'm going to be into this for $25, but at least I should be able to use my phone in my house again.
Has anyone tried Bobsled for this?

u are not alone in this hunt... good news is... 2013 is a good year for voip.
so first off all let me just tell u, ive been hunting for a good FREE VOIP, 4 wayyy to frigging long.
but i have finally got the perfect COMBO of apps that get the job done, and might i add quite well too!
first go set up ur google voice account and get u a free number....
download google voice.... pray ur phone has had service at one point or another....and google acceepts ur phone to allow u to use google voice (google voice is a pain in the ass to get it to register sometimes)...for some reason they want only people with active service to use their service... which makes no sense at all.....but... sometimes those free texting apps that give u 10 FREE minutes calling will do it....
then go download gv+ or mo+ (same friggin thing_ same devoloper) - seems like when one is acting up i can uninstall it and download the other and it will work perfectly for about 2 months then i gota switch back to the other again... its odd...
but i can call anywhere in america for free.... no questions asked... as long as i download voice and install it also. idk
i actually use voice for all my texting and then when i wana call sum1 then i use the mo+ app. and it works flawlessly. no weird numbers, no grainy calls, no echo... its wonderful!