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data connect = incoming calls straight to VM

so i just noticed this today (i have the leaked ROM installed) that when i am using the web or checking my email if someone calls they go straight to my voice mail -- i haven't had the phone long enough to know if this is how it is supposed to be or not. Is there a way to get to cancel the data connection and show me someone is calling?

ikemiller2662 said:
so i just noticed this today (i have the leaked ROM installed) that when i am using the web or checking my email if someone calls they go straight to my voice mail -- i haven't had the phone long enough to know if this is how it is supposed to be or not. Is there a way to get to cancel the data connection and show me someone is calling?
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Wow -- what a kewl feature!
What phone/provider and rom do you have?

quantumforce1 said:
Wow -- what a kewl feature!
What phone/provider and rom do you have?
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no, not really, at least not for those of us who use push email, since it maintains a constant data connection to the exchange server

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351797&highlight=EVDO

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351797&highlight=EVDO
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well i read through that and tried what they mentioned but i couldn't get it to drop the data when a call came in.
btw, i'm on Sprint, and no EVDO where i am at so only 1x.

but as i mention in the thread
"i believe that all issues with cellphone internet blocking or being disabled when one recieve a call is purely an issue
with old and poor quality equipment of the cellphone operator in the area"
many old gsm and aparently american cellphone networks too
suffer from not being able to handle both network and calls at the same time
it's an issue in the operator end not the phones

yeah after three emails with sprint (i think most of their CS people are brain dead) they finally told me that it is how it works, no way around it.
one told me that calls go to voice mail when you don't have enough signal -- totally irrelevent to this issue
one told me it was a technical problem with my phone and said i should bring it to a sprint store to get a tech to look at it
and finally after *****ed at them sayint that people (that i assume) don't work for sprint know more about this (thanks Rudegar for your responces) then they do, they finally just came out and said that, yeah this is how it is and there isn't anyway around it.
it seems that this is a better place to get answers then emailing sprint --- although i should have realized that from the beginning, i won't make that mistake again.

well i guess your question has been answered, but figure id add my 2 cents...
it works like this only in EV-DO areas not on 1x....
my ring through works perfectly fine when a call or text comes in, it discconects allows me to do what i want, then it automatically reconnects back to data..

Skype Mobile apk on T-Mo?

Is there any chance the Skype mobile apk file could be modified to work on T-Mo network?
Of course this thread might get the easy answers such as:
1) "No"
2) "It cant be done"
3) "It checks verizon's network?"
... but I'd be happier to hear from experts that know how it actually works/could be done.
Verizon skype apk: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rnwab1

No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.

Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off

Paul22000 said:
No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.
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LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul

ap3604 said:
LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul
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: P
Check out my second post (we posted at same time)
This might also help: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=264ef8ddf7c82bcc&hl=en

Paul22000 said:
Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off
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Yeah your right it is pretty crappy that Skype put those restrictions on it by sleeping with the enemy (Big Red).
I was just going to see if it could work on T-Mo though because then I could get my family members to use it as well and make good quality voip calls like I could on the iPhone version.
SIPdroid is dear to my heart but the quality on outbound calls is pretty unusable for me, inbound is still good though. I tell all my friends that "if you get a call from me, dont pick up and just call me back."
Fring 3g quality was serviceable before but it was laggy (I would say something and the other person would start talking and then mid sentence would hear what I said and it would mess up the conversation). It probably has had some updates though so I will try it out again.

dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.

3 has got this for a long time now (no Android client yet) but the acctual calling is routed using a gsm center, no VOIP at all. I have installed the apk for t-mobile and it almost does the same thing ( it doesn't work outside tm network)

superg81 said:
dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.
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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?

http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!

Paul22000 said:
http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?
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Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)

ap3604 said:
Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)
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How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..

Paul22000 said:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!
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so does that mean I won't have to pay a monthly bill? I can just basically, use my google voice number through wifi?

ram130 said:
Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..
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@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?

Paul22000 said:
What do you have set for Google Voice settings?
Use for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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ask only for international calls. I have not setup vonage yet, gonna do it now and see what is possible. I'll update ya in a few.

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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On my end I can guarantee that its making the calls through WiFi because of the data only plan I am on. T-Mo has two different types of $40/mo data plans:
1) $40/mo with T-mo hotspot access but cannot make ANY calls (except 911)
2) $40/mo without T-mo hotspot access but can make calls for $.10/min
I have the first option and if I try to make a regular call it says "the service you are attempting to use has been restricted or unavailable" and hangs up. Even if I try to make a call through GVoice it says the same thing so I know I cant make any cellular calls. But I can make a call through the Vonage app with WiFi (although I do have to have on Edge/3g with the WiFi your right).
I just checked my T-Mobile account as well and I dont see any minutes used either.
Now if only we can get this thing to think its on WiFi even if only on 3g!

Paul22000 said:
@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...

ap3604 said:
I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...
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When I set GV to not call intercept, it will just call using my normal phone number. Vonage just sits there doing nothing.
A few times the Vonage dialer has popped up (if I had GV set to make ALL calls), but then Vonage crashed (Force Close).
Bleh, must be an issue with the Desire caller =\

Fring is flawless with skype dumb easy to setup for idiots like myself
I use it w/o a simcard in my g1 and keep my sim in the n1
I tried this vonage doesn't seem to work with the sim card out or in...if any one can post the correct steps to make domestic calls over wifi on the vonage app please(w/o a sim card it the only sure way to know its using wifi only)

Any Way to Make the HD2 Work Like UMA?

I've been trying to search for a solution to this, and haven't found anything yet on this topic. I keep seeing SIP and programs that require you to connect to a VoIP server, but I am not sure if this will accomplish the same goal. Basically I like how the Blackberry UMA technology connects via WiFi from overseas, and lets you make calls back to the US using your regular plan minutes with no long distance charges. Is there any way to do the same thing on the HD2 (US version)? I know the antenna's are not the same technology.
There is also an option for internet calling when you go to Settings Tab>Menu>All Settings>Personal>Phone>Internet. It reads:
Internet Calling
To set the calling network for your next call, select Internet Calling on the Home Screen.
Does this even do anything?

I too would be very interested in something like this as my reception at my home - inside or out - is very weak.
I have tried several different radios as well, but I'm not having any luck.

Ditto.. I could totally use this feature. Does anyone know if you must have hardware that supports it or is it just software that runs on the phone ?

As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.

I have truphone, witch works great, but only for outgoing calls. I need something that works through wifi that I can get incoming calls as well as outgoing. This is the one and only thing that makes me miss my blackberry. If I wasn't merely 9 months into my 2 year contract I could afford the mytouch 4g or the G2 and enjoy uma, but I don't have 500 plus dollars for yet another new phone. Trust me I'd love a new Mytouch 4G but it's at least another year until I can get one. I know this is off topic but does anyone have any hands on knowledge about the signal boosters they sell online? what ones work? cuz I get like 1 bar in my house and it comes and goes but soon as i'm 3 doors up I have 5 bars and 3g. So I definitely need something.

I was searching for just the same thing and came across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380803
post 23 explains it, so now all thats needed is adaptation, but I'm not a programer.
Here are the files I did download, but I haven't tested them, nor would know how to "make" them work.
Hope someone can make this work, I get 0 service at home, cause I live in a rural area, but work in a metro.

ashasaur said:
As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.
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But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.

Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.

johnny13oi said:
But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.
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Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.
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Are you guys sure you're not confusing Wi-Fi calling for UMA? These are two different technologies. Wi-Fi calling is simply using a messenger program or SIP server to make calls using Wi-Fi. It's free to other Wi-Fi users or charged to account credits for phone numbers (Fringo, Skype, Nimbuzz, Google Voice). SIP servers work the same way (SIP Gate, etc.), you have to have an account with credit to make Wi-Fi calls to phone numbers.
Both of these Wi-Fi calling options require you to purchase calling credit to make calls to telephone numbers.
The idea behind UMA is that you do not have to purchase credit through a third party, but instead you use the minutes on your T-Mobile plan. For example, if you make a Wi-Fi call with a Blackberry (UMA-enabled phone), you would be connected through T-Mobile's servers (not 3rd party, ie: Skype), and they would simply deduct the minutes from your monthly plan. It would work the same with UMA as it would with a regular phone call through wireless service, free t-motbile to t-mobile, nights and weekends, etc.
I have searched this information thoroughly and have only come to conclude that UMA capability has to be built into the phone, via a chip or other. So far I have not seen anything about UMA being accessible through a program install or software mod.
If you simply want Wi-Fi calling it is possible with the HD2, as I have already done it with Skype and SIP Gate. It will be free if the person you are calling also has Skype, Nimbuzz, Fringo, etc. If you don't mind paying 2-10 cents/minute, then you can purchase the credit and make Wi-Fi calls to telephone numbers as well.
Hope this answers your question.

cu2cool, I believe you may have it a little wrong on the part of UMA. Like in the link I posted before, UMA isn't hardware or chip dependent, though phones like Blackberrys have a dedicated chip for the purpose. UMA is software dependent, and most likely radio dependent. My proof is in this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116 taken from a Nexus1 thread, which phone didn't have UMA support before some crafty guys worked it out. Don't get me wrong I'm no expert on the subject, just from reading around, I'm fairly certain its "possible" and all it should take is a crafty person with the know-how to make it work.
Edit: Just found this (actually had it opened for weeks and forgot I had it) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843433&page=6 a dev page for WIP on UMA-HD2_TMo-Android.

I finally just forked over the cash for a Mytouch 4G, and it was money well spent even if just for the wifi calling alone.
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I think I just saw something that might help. It came out on the 11th of February. http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/windows-mobile-voip-sip-updated/

Sip Internet Calling on Gingerbread 2.3

Don't know if this was mentioned but the integrated internet calling+Gizmo5+GVoice Callback app works great! will test some more but looks like sipdroid is now obsolete. Hopefully Google will integrate callback into the google voice app to make it more seamless.

sipdroid and other similar apps were bound to become obsolete as Google moves forward implementing their desktop internet calling features.
Honestly, IMO, they are lagging behind. I still don't understand why Google hasn't fully integrated gmail calling into Android as it has all the means to do so.
Let's hope we don't have to wait till 3.0 for that feature....I have horrible reception at my work (old NYC concrete building that nothing seems to be able to penetrate...even Verizon's CDMA) I would love o be able to default to wifi calling when at work.

Excellent news. Sipdroid worked, but it was hardly elegant and often drained the battery like made.
Looking forward to the sip features of 2.3

ExtraDas said:
sipdroid and other similar apps were bound to become obsolete as Google moves forward implementing their desktop internet calling features.
Honestly, IMO, they are lagging behind. I still don't understand why Google hasn't fully integrated gmail calling into Android as it has all the means to do so.
Let's hope we don't have to wait till 3.0 for that feature....I have horrible reception at my work (old NYC concrete building that nothing seems to be able to penetrate...even Verizon's CDMA) I would love o be able to default to wifi calling when at work.
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Most likely? They're afraid of pissing off the carriers. Same reason why SIP is only usable in WiFi in 2.3 (Though you can bet dollars to beans that it'll be usable in 3G once someone pokes the code in custom ROMs)

Nushio said:
Most likely? They're afraid of pissing off the carriers. Same reason why SIP is only usable in WiFi in 2.3 (Though you can bet dollars to beans that it'll be usable in 3G once someone pokes the code in custom ROMs)
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+1
If the SIP stack is open-source, I doubt it'll take more than a tweak or two to enable 3G calling.

GldRush98 said:
Excellent news. Sipdroid worked, but it was hardly elegant and often drained the battery like made
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CSipSimple does not normally contribute more than 2% of my battery usage -- and that's normal usage, not just idling. As long as Android's built-in SIP calling is WIFI only I think I'd keep it around.

hircus said:
CSipSimple does not normally contribute more than 2% of my battery usage -- and that's normal usage, not just idling. As long as Android's built-in SIP calling is WIFI only I think I'd keep it around.
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I got a load of problems with csipsimple
it would even crash the phone application from time to time when receiving incoming calls via gsm

CSIPSimple caused many problems on my end as well, but Sipdroid has been working fine for quite a while in my case.
Hopefully CyanogenMod will include 3G (and 2G...) calling right from the beginning, seems like a no-brainer.

Probably a dumb question, but how should I set my gizmo5 account in order to be able to place calls?

ah bummer. I'm getting a "Called out of Network" error when placing SIP calls to landline . Receiving calls just fine.

Probability said:
ah bummer. I'm getting a "Called out of Network" error when placing SIP calls to landline . Receiving calls just fine.
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Using what SIP provider?

Really does sound like the provider is to blame.
Has anyone gotten 3G working?

frandavid100 said:
Probably a dumb question, but how should I set my gizmo5 account in order to be able to place calls?
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Ebay is where I picked up 3 Gizmo5 accounts for around $9.00 each.
bemymonkey said:
Has anyone gotten 3G working?
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Wondering the same thing. With all the AOSP roms around I would have thought this would have been one of the first things added.

Sipdroid will stay with me for now.
When I setup my GB 2.3 internet wifi with Gizmo and Google call back (as I don’t have free out going minutes), I had to wait for the call back (to ring back) to connect my call.
With sipdroid , the call will go thru as normal without delay.

i wish there was an option to ignore cell calls when a SIP incoming call is coming in at the same time.
The reason I want this is becasue when someone calls my Google Voice number it rings my cell number and my SIP number, I then get 2 calls on my phone and its annoying and sometimes messes up the call

dcplaya said:
i wish there was an option to ignore cell calls when a SIP incoming call is coming in at the same time.
The reason I want this is becasue when someone calls my Google Voice number it rings my cell number and my SIP number, I then get 2 calls on my phone and its annoying and sometimes messes up the call
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You can use the Google Voice Settings Locale plugin (I can't remember the exact name, sorry) with either Locale or Tasker to automatically toggle which number GVoice will ring based on your wifi connection state.

can anybody confirm call waiting is working on native sip client?

codesplice said:
You can use the Google Voice Settings Locale plugin (I can't remember the exact name, sorry) with either Locale or Tasker to automatically toggle which number GVoice will ring based on your wifi connection state.
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Awesome, ill give that a try. thanks!
Still would like to have a built in option but this will have to do!

http://android.modaco.com/content/g...ingerbread-internet-calling-sip-without-wifi/

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http://android.modaco.com/content/g...ingerbread-internet-calling-sip-without-wifi/
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thanks a lot.

Can I use my WIFI at work to get better reception?

Is there any way to do this? I get no service at work, but do have access to wifi. Can I somehow connect to wifi and be able to receive/make calls using that signal? Thanks

Yes there is. Its called GrooveIP and its currently 50% off ($1.99) on Amazon. It works well I have used it on my Captivate several times with NO SIM CARD! You need to have Google Voice set up and have a Google Voice #, but both GV and a GV# are worth having w/o GrooveIP.
Recently there was a bug where the Atrix would only do calls in speakerphone, but I just checked and that issue is now resolved! I had spoke to the dev about it and he informed me that their team does have an Atrix. He informed me that they would be working to resolve the issue and apparently it has been.

Thanks for the info...is there any way to do this while keeping your phone number? I don't care about outgoing calls...its the incoming calls that are important for me.
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the simple answer, no. T-Mobile is the only US carrier to implement UMA. UMA will allow you to make calls over a wifi network.

Singhman said:
Thanks for the info...is there any way to do this while keeping your phone number? I don't care about outgoing calls...its the incoming calls that are important for me.
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Well yes, but it is a bit of a pain. You can port your current # to GV, this may mean paying your ETF. Of course if you can get customer service or a store manager to understand you dont want to cancel your contact but only change your #, you may not have a problem. But good luck, I have not attempted yet.
Or you could do what I do.. Set your GV# to forward to your current mobile # (and your house #, work #, etc). Give your GV# to your friends. With this set up I can always be reached via one # regardless of if I am on the Atrix or the Cap w/no sim, and regardless of if its voip over wifi or through Atts ****ty coverage.
Then again, when the Atrix gets Gingerbread there is a native Android internet calling feature built in that requires some knowledge of SIP. So I guess thats an option too.
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the simple answer, no. T-Mobile is the only US carrier to implement UMA. UMA will allow you to make calls over a wifi network.
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Your short answer is not helpful uninformed. of course we know Att does not provide a voip solution, that does not mean they do not exist on the Atrix.

Couldn't you set your call forwarding to your GV # on your phone when unreachable?

if your in good with the IT folks...might consider a 3g microcell. We just put one here for that purpose....granted it doesn't work with our firewall though.

Or, you could go to the extreme, sort of, make your coworkers happy, too, and buy a GSM repeater. Should cost around 100$

Use groove ip and forward numbers to it from google voice when at work.
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