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Skype Mobile apk on T-Mo?

Is there any chance the Skype mobile apk file could be modified to work on T-Mo network?
Of course this thread might get the easy answers such as:
1) "No"
2) "It cant be done"
3) "It checks verizon's network?"
... but I'd be happier to hear from experts that know how it actually works/could be done.
Verizon skype apk: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rnwab1

No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.

Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off

Paul22000 said:
No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.
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LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul

ap3604 said:
LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul
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: P
Check out my second post (we posted at same time)
This might also help: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=264ef8ddf7c82bcc&hl=en

Paul22000 said:
Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off
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Yeah your right it is pretty crappy that Skype put those restrictions on it by sleeping with the enemy (Big Red).
I was just going to see if it could work on T-Mo though because then I could get my family members to use it as well and make good quality voip calls like I could on the iPhone version.
SIPdroid is dear to my heart but the quality on outbound calls is pretty unusable for me, inbound is still good though. I tell all my friends that "if you get a call from me, dont pick up and just call me back."
Fring 3g quality was serviceable before but it was laggy (I would say something and the other person would start talking and then mid sentence would hear what I said and it would mess up the conversation). It probably has had some updates though so I will try it out again.

dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.

3 has got this for a long time now (no Android client yet) but the acctual calling is routed using a gsm center, no VOIP at all. I have installed the apk for t-mobile and it almost does the same thing ( it doesn't work outside tm network)

superg81 said:
dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.
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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?

http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!

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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?
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Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)

ap3604 said:
Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)
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How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..

Paul22000 said:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!
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so does that mean I won't have to pay a monthly bill? I can just basically, use my google voice number through wifi?

ram130 said:
Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..
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@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?

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What do you have set for Google Voice settings?
Use for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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ask only for international calls. I have not setup vonage yet, gonna do it now and see what is possible. I'll update ya in a few.

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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On my end I can guarantee that its making the calls through WiFi because of the data only plan I am on. T-Mo has two different types of $40/mo data plans:
1) $40/mo with T-mo hotspot access but cannot make ANY calls (except 911)
2) $40/mo without T-mo hotspot access but can make calls for $.10/min
I have the first option and if I try to make a regular call it says "the service you are attempting to use has been restricted or unavailable" and hangs up. Even if I try to make a call through GVoice it says the same thing so I know I cant make any cellular calls. But I can make a call through the Vonage app with WiFi (although I do have to have on Edge/3g with the WiFi your right).
I just checked my T-Mobile account as well and I dont see any minutes used either.
Now if only we can get this thing to think its on WiFi even if only on 3g!

Paul22000 said:
@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...

ap3604 said:
I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...
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When I set GV to not call intercept, it will just call using my normal phone number. Vonage just sits there doing nothing.
A few times the Vonage dialer has popped up (if I had GV set to make ALL calls), but then Vonage crashed (Force Close).
Bleh, must be an issue with the Desire caller =\

Fring is flawless with skype dumb easy to setup for idiots like myself
I use it w/o a simcard in my g1 and keep my sim in the n1
I tried this vonage doesn't seem to work with the sim card out or in...if any one can post the correct steps to make domestic calls over wifi on the vonage app please(w/o a sim card it the only sure way to know its using wifi only)

HD2 and Google Voice

question though in regards to google voice (GV). Does this use my tmobile minutes or is this voip (use the internet for calls)? I assume internet calls right? but only for outgoing? what about incoming, does it just forward to my tmobile number?
any input would be nice, although i've been working with voip servers and all that, i've never used GV before so I'm not sure if it's voip or just forwarder service.

bangsters said:
question though in regards to google voice (GV). Does this use my tmobile minutes or is this voip (use the internet for calls)? I assume internet calls right? but only for outgoing? what about incoming, does it just forward to my tmobile number?
any input would be nice, although i've been working with voip servers and all that, i've never used GV before so I'm not sure if it's voip or just forwarder service.
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I believe it just forwards it , it will still used your t-mobile minutes.
For users under the old myFaves 5 plan (discontinue service) who grandfather the service they can actually setup their T-Mobile number as one of their favorite 5 number. Hence none of their minutes get used up since all the calls get forward back to your number which is in your favorite five that's what I used to do before I redid my contract and had to drop myFavorite plan

GV is not a VOIP service, Its just a forwarding or voicemail service. You cant get a GV number and use that to forward to all your phones at once or use it for voicemail or to make cheap worldwide calls by calling that number but it still all goes of your minutes, If calling overseas then you would call your local GV number so you wouldnt be charged those fees by tmob just GV but all voicemail and local calling is free to use cause its just a forwarding number basically...

thanks for the info.

So if I were to call my GV number, then call a T-mobile number, it would still be free since it's T-Mo to T-Mo right? Wouldn't there be a small charge calling the GV number?

i don't know why u guys r answering questions when you don't knowanything about to answer the question google voice is voip which means you can call or text anywhere in the us for free as long ad u have an internet conection that doesn't mean that it doesn't use forwarding it actually does forward to any number u set up i suggest you go to their website and watch the tutorial. i have been using GVfor almost 16 months and had no charges extra

coolmarkoo said:
i don't know why u guys r answering questions when you don't knowanything about to answer the question google voice is voip which means you can call or text anywhere in the us for free as long ad u have an internet conection that doesn't mean that it doesn't use forwarding it actually does forward to any number u set up i suggest you go to their website and watch the tutorial. i have been using GVfor almost 16 months and had no charges extra
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Well that's where you come in Sr. Knowns alot thanks for the info

coolmarkoo said:
i don't know why u guys r answering questions when you don't knowanything about to answer the question google voice is voip which means you can call or text anywhere in the us for free as long ad u have an internet conection that doesn't mean that it doesn't use forwarding it actually does forward to any number u set up i suggest you go to their website and watch the tutorial. i have been using GVfor almost 16 months and had no charges extra
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how exactly did you configure yours? do you have myfaves and your GV number is one of the faves? I checked my tmobile logs and it looks like tmobile is calling a google number, then from there the call gets routed.
I also tried turning off my data connection and GV still works. but when I switched to aurplane mode and had my wifi on, GV calls will not go out.
Thus I believe it's not VOIP but just a forwarding service. If i'm mistaken please provide your setup and details. I think your info is inaccurate and the other posts are correct. and no need to bash the others for trying to help when you yourself didn't provide any concrete details as to whether it's voip or not.
After further reading, the other posts are correct and it's not voip. some further reading:
http://www.itworld.com/mobile-amp-w...-isnt-voip-and-other-things-you-learn-readers
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=034620ed4041bd75&hl=en
In short just because you have not incurred additional charges for the past 16 months doesn't mean it's VOIP.

google voice just routes calls that u dial from ur fone say you wana call your friend joe from gv so mines i have it set up to ask me every time i dial a number either to use google voice or not so after clicking joe i would click use gv then it will call a gv number to connect you with your friend joe and its complety free i have only had data service when i got my g1 and then deactivated it. and use my fone using wifi for free texting and i have never payed for texting since i have it blocked. check this website out and youtube for tutorial that explain how gv works. www.google.com/voice

coolmarkoo said:
google voice just routes calls that u dial from ur fone say you wana call your friend joe from gv so mines i have it set up to ask me every time i dial a number either to use google voice or not so after clicking joe i would click use gv then it will call a gv number to connect you with your friend joe and its complety free i have only had data service when i got my g1 and then deactivated it. and use my fone using wifi for free texting and i have never payed for texting since i have it blocked. check this website out and youtube for tutorial that explain how gv works. www.google.com/voice
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yup it routes it but not through data. i tried turning off my internet and gv still works. try it o yours and let me know if you can still use gv even without 3g or wifi. and please check your phone bill if you the call gets deducted from your minutes. from what i saw with with my tmobile usage, the gv calls show up.
thanks
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I think i get what you mean by free... google voice in itself is free. but then it uses your phone's minutes. texting goes through your data plan (if you have unlimited data then it's free, if not it goes against your bandwidth usage). thanks again

bangsters said:
yup it routes it but not through data. i tried turning off my internet and gv still works. try it o yours and let me know if you can still use gv even without 3g or wifi. and please check your phone bill if you the call gets deducted from your minutes. from what i saw with with my tmobile usage, the gv calls show up.
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I think i get what you mean by free... google voice in itself is free. but then it uses your phone's minutes. texting goes through your data plan (if you have unlimited data then it's free, if not it goes against your bandwidth usage). thanks again
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i dont have data plan all i have is wifi and i dont have any texting from tmobile either and my minutes is not effected by gv i basically use gv to call my friends that have at&t and thats only if i am conected to wifi other wise i have to use my tmobile minutes. when i try to make calls without wifi it tells me unable to connect. hope i helped

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i dont have data plan all i have is wifi and i dont have any texting from tmobile either and my minutes is not effected by gv i basically use gv to call my friends that have at&t and thats only if i am conected to wifi other wise i have to use my tmobile minutes. when i try to make calls without wifi it tells me unable to connect. hope i helped
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hmmmm...... are you using the gv app in your hd2, from market? that's what i'm using.

bangsters said:
hmmmm...... are you using the gv app in your hd2, from market? that's what i'm using.
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my first Android fone was the g1 thats when i discovered it and now since iandroid got ported to the hd2 i can use it agjain so yea i am using GV app made by google

Sip Internet Calling on Gingerbread 2.3

Don't know if this was mentioned but the integrated internet calling+Gizmo5+GVoice Callback app works great! will test some more but looks like sipdroid is now obsolete. Hopefully Google will integrate callback into the google voice app to make it more seamless.

sipdroid and other similar apps were bound to become obsolete as Google moves forward implementing their desktop internet calling features.
Honestly, IMO, they are lagging behind. I still don't understand why Google hasn't fully integrated gmail calling into Android as it has all the means to do so.
Let's hope we don't have to wait till 3.0 for that feature....I have horrible reception at my work (old NYC concrete building that nothing seems to be able to penetrate...even Verizon's CDMA) I would love o be able to default to wifi calling when at work.

Excellent news. Sipdroid worked, but it was hardly elegant and often drained the battery like made.
Looking forward to the sip features of 2.3

ExtraDas said:
sipdroid and other similar apps were bound to become obsolete as Google moves forward implementing their desktop internet calling features.
Honestly, IMO, they are lagging behind. I still don't understand why Google hasn't fully integrated gmail calling into Android as it has all the means to do so.
Let's hope we don't have to wait till 3.0 for that feature....I have horrible reception at my work (old NYC concrete building that nothing seems to be able to penetrate...even Verizon's CDMA) I would love o be able to default to wifi calling when at work.
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Most likely? They're afraid of pissing off the carriers. Same reason why SIP is only usable in WiFi in 2.3 (Though you can bet dollars to beans that it'll be usable in 3G once someone pokes the code in custom ROMs)

Nushio said:
Most likely? They're afraid of pissing off the carriers. Same reason why SIP is only usable in WiFi in 2.3 (Though you can bet dollars to beans that it'll be usable in 3G once someone pokes the code in custom ROMs)
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+1
If the SIP stack is open-source, I doubt it'll take more than a tweak or two to enable 3G calling.

GldRush98 said:
Excellent news. Sipdroid worked, but it was hardly elegant and often drained the battery like made
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CSipSimple does not normally contribute more than 2% of my battery usage -- and that's normal usage, not just idling. As long as Android's built-in SIP calling is WIFI only I think I'd keep it around.

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CSipSimple does not normally contribute more than 2% of my battery usage -- and that's normal usage, not just idling. As long as Android's built-in SIP calling is WIFI only I think I'd keep it around.
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I got a load of problems with csipsimple
it would even crash the phone application from time to time when receiving incoming calls via gsm

CSIPSimple caused many problems on my end as well, but Sipdroid has been working fine for quite a while in my case.
Hopefully CyanogenMod will include 3G (and 2G...) calling right from the beginning, seems like a no-brainer.

Probably a dumb question, but how should I set my gizmo5 account in order to be able to place calls?

ah bummer. I'm getting a "Called out of Network" error when placing SIP calls to landline . Receiving calls just fine.

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ah bummer. I'm getting a "Called out of Network" error when placing SIP calls to landline . Receiving calls just fine.
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Using what SIP provider?

Really does sound like the provider is to blame.
Has anyone gotten 3G working?

frandavid100 said:
Probably a dumb question, but how should I set my gizmo5 account in order to be able to place calls?
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Ebay is where I picked up 3 Gizmo5 accounts for around $9.00 each.
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Has anyone gotten 3G working?
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Wondering the same thing. With all the AOSP roms around I would have thought this would have been one of the first things added.

Sipdroid will stay with me for now.
When I setup my GB 2.3 internet wifi with Gizmo and Google call back (as I don’t have free out going minutes), I had to wait for the call back (to ring back) to connect my call.
With sipdroid , the call will go thru as normal without delay.

i wish there was an option to ignore cell calls when a SIP incoming call is coming in at the same time.
The reason I want this is becasue when someone calls my Google Voice number it rings my cell number and my SIP number, I then get 2 calls on my phone and its annoying and sometimes messes up the call

dcplaya said:
i wish there was an option to ignore cell calls when a SIP incoming call is coming in at the same time.
The reason I want this is becasue when someone calls my Google Voice number it rings my cell number and my SIP number, I then get 2 calls on my phone and its annoying and sometimes messes up the call
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You can use the Google Voice Settings Locale plugin (I can't remember the exact name, sorry) with either Locale or Tasker to automatically toggle which number GVoice will ring based on your wifi connection state.

can anybody confirm call waiting is working on native sip client?

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You can use the Google Voice Settings Locale plugin (I can't remember the exact name, sorry) with either Locale or Tasker to automatically toggle which number GVoice will ring based on your wifi connection state.
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Awesome, ill give that a try. thanks!
Still would like to have a built in option but this will have to do!

http://android.modaco.com/content/g...ingerbread-internet-calling-sip-without-wifi/

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http://android.modaco.com/content/g...ingerbread-internet-calling-sip-without-wifi/
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thanks a lot.

Google Voice + Sprint = ? GV Callback Users

We've heard about the upcoming Google Voice + Sprint integration.
http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/sprint-integrates-google-voice.html
I use Google Voice for all of my calls. I don't give out my regular cell phone number, and have already 'trained' my audience to only use my GV#.
Also, many of you may be familiar with the app GV Callback, or now, "Google Voice Callback", coupled with Sprint to Home. This makes up for the fact that any call placed through the regular Google Voice App is billed as a 'Landline to mobile' (or landline to landline) call, incurring 'anytime minutes'. I discovered this the hard way, after a 2 month project, where I thought I was calling someone's cell phone, but it was really a landline. $900 later.. I began to research.
So basically, all of my outgoing calls (now) show as calls being placed to my "home" aka, my Google Voice number, and are therefore, covered by Sprint to Home ($5).
I haven't found any details on how this Google Voice + Sprint integration will affect this. I also emailed the developer of GV Callback, and he didn't know either. I'm curious if anyone knows, or has heard anything.

I use gv + sipdroid to handle all my inbound and outbound domestic calls. Avoids using up my minutes and keeps my cell number private.
Gv - outbound calls
Sipdroid - inbound calls
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How does that avoid using minutes on its own?

I've used the official Google Voice on my phone for almost 2 years and I don't recall it ever counting as a landline. It's always been mobile-to-mobile for me.

BrianFX said:
How does that avoid using minutes on its own?
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gv uses it's own list of callback numbers that gets re-routed through their VOIP servers to connect to the recipient. Therefore, the receiving party see's your gv number. Although, one does have the option to place a call using gv or without gv before call is made, which comes in handy if you have m2m feature on your plan and want to directly dial using your cell number instead of your gv number.

arashed31 said:
I've used the official Google Voice on my phone for almost 2 years and I don't recall it ever counting as a landline. It's always been mobile-to-mobile for me.
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As mentioned in the comment above, if you use the gv app for your outgoing calls, I'm sure they count as calls to a landline. A way to check is, check an outgoing call on your bill- if you recognize the number, it most likely wasn't called through your gv app. If it's one of those 404 or 972 (or other less common) area codes, then you probably called through the gv app.
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I was wondering the exact same thing. I have to have people who call me a lot use my mobile number so I can use my unlimited sprint to sprint mobile minutes, but that means I can't have them use my GV number. I am hoping that Sprint + GV will make my GV number a sprint mobile number fixing this problem. I think this will be the case but would love to hear from someone who knows.
I'm also wondering what will become of the number I don't keep... does my current cell number go back into the Sprint pool if I choose my GV number? Does my GV number go back into the GV pool? I'd like to keep both if possible for a transition period, but I doubt that will happen.
From what I've read Sprint + GV this will also allow picture messaging to be sent to my GV# and for my phone to manage text messages. Which is great for most everyone in sprint as almost all of their plans have unlimited text. I'm also curious how this will work exactly...

I stop using gv cuz eats my minutes and learned the hard way and calls sometimes not clear it's good feature if U want to hide your # but useless or do pair with sip for free landline minutes.
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hoopsbwc34 said:
I was wondering the exact same thing. I have to have people who call me a lot use my mobile number so I can use my unlimited sprint to sprint mobile minutes, but that means I can't have them use my GV number.
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There's a solution for that if you only want to use your GV number-- in the 1st post. I run about 0-15 minutes per month with that setup
With GV Callback, you can easily set up filters to *not* call certain people from you GV number, etc.
which is why I hope it doesn't change.

Why use that Google Voice Callback? It's not even officially support by Google.
The Google Voice integration does the following:
1. Ports in your Sprint number for free
2. You use Google Voice with you Sprint number
3. All the benefits of Google Voice with your Sprint number for free. No ten dollar fee and no opting out of your contract.

Whosdaman said:
Why use that Google Voice Callback? It's not even officially support by Google.
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I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
Whosdaman said:
The Google Voice integration does the following:
1. Ports in your Sprint number for free
2. You use Google Voice with you Sprint number
3. All the benefits of Google Voice with your Sprint number for free. No ten dollar fee and no opting out of your contract.
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That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.

decalex said:
I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.
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I haven't run into any problems, do you have free incoming calls? Incoming don't count against my minutes, and I have unlimited nights+weekends.

decalex said:
I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.
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Please pardon my ignorance but I just started researching how to make a call over Wi-Fi and I have tried to make a call from my computer using GV to a toll free number. It worked and I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get charged by google or Sprint so I just wonder why should it be any different if I do the same from my phone??? Over Wi-Fi, using sipdroid with GV.
I just can't get it what they would charge me for? The call isn't using Sprint voice network or Sprint Data network for that matter since I'm using my cable internet.
As far as I see it, it uses Google and pbxes bandwith.
And what is GV callback good for anyway? By my understanding that would be something Sprint could charge me for since I don't have free incoming calls.
And I can make call without GV callback just as well over Wi-Fi with my phone.
AND I totally don't understand how Sprint charged you $900 when you didn't even use your Sprint #
Please explain it to me as I was a little child.

Stank0 said:
Please pardon my ignorance but I just started researching how to make a call over Wi-Fi and I have tried to make a call from my computer using GV to a toll free number. It worked and I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get charged by google or Sprint so I just wonder why should it be any different if I do the same from my phone??? Over Wi-Fi, using sipdroid with GV.
I just can't get it what they would charge me for? The call isn't using Sprint voice network or Sprint Data network for that matter since I'm using my cable internet.
As far as I see it, it uses Google and pbxes bandwith.
And what is GV callback good for anyway? By my understanding that would be something Sprint could charge me for since I don't have free incoming calls.
And I can make call without GV callback just as well over Wi-Fi with my phone.
AND I totally don't understand how Sprint charged you $900 when you didn't even use your Sprint #
Please explain it to me as I was a little child.
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OK he was billed because he was calling a landline number that he thought was a cell which used his anytime minutes and mad him have overage.
With Google voice the downside is that you lose anymobile anytime because all calls are coming from Google which is not a cell number. The solution open provides is to subscribe to sprint to home which lets you have free calls to your home number. You make that home number you Google voice number. Then you use ghost callback to make your calls this makes Google call your cellphone from your Google voice number which is a free call so then every call you make becomes free. Combine this with setting up Google to show your Google voice number as the callerid when it forwards calls to your cell and then every call can be free.
The question open has is that all this depends on essentially having two numbers. A gv number and a sprint number. When you combine them by porting no one really knows what happens to a setup like this...
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stilesja said:
OK he was billed because he was calling a landline number that he thought was a cell which used his anytime minutes and mad him have overage.
With Google voice the downside is that you lose anymobile anytime because all calls are coming from Google which is not a cell number. The solution open provides is to subscribe to sprint to home which lets you have free calls to your home number. You make that home number you Google voice number. Then you use ghost callback to make your calls this makes Google call your cellphone from your Google voice number which is a free call so then every call you make becomes free. Combine this with setting up Google to show your Google voice number as the callerid when it forwards calls to your cell and then every call can be free.
The question open has is that all this depends on essentially having two numbers. A gv number and a sprint number. When you combine them by porting no one really knows what happens to a setup like this...
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Yes, that's what you would have to do to receive INCOMING calls.
Outgoing calls shouldn't be charged at all since I initiate the call over Wi-Fi and it's being routed outside of Sprint network completely.
(Phone->router>modem>my Internet provider> sipdroid>GV>target phone)
And unless Sprint owns at least one of those "nods", I don't think they have any grounds (or even way) for charging (or using my minutes) for anything. Sprint shouldn't even KNOW that I made such a call.
Henceforth. I understand that it's probably true for Sprint to use my anytime minutes for INCOMING calls (without Sprint to Home), OUTGOING are a different story no matter whether I call cell or landline. All expenses are on Google since GV makes that final part of call. And for the time being GV calls (to US numbers) are free. At least till the end of this year.
I'm still missing point of using the GV callback though. As far as I understand it, GV callback will turn your FREE outgoing call into CHARGEABLE incoming call.
EDIT: BUT... If the incoming call come through sipdroid... it shouldnt use my anytime minutes either since it doesn't use Sprint network. Voice nor data.

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Haha, ya, I'll do the research once they take away my sprint to home dealy... Still going strong though.
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Can I use my WIFI at work to get better reception?

Is there any way to do this? I get no service at work, but do have access to wifi. Can I somehow connect to wifi and be able to receive/make calls using that signal? Thanks

Yes there is. Its called GrooveIP and its currently 50% off ($1.99) on Amazon. It works well I have used it on my Captivate several times with NO SIM CARD! You need to have Google Voice set up and have a Google Voice #, but both GV and a GV# are worth having w/o GrooveIP.
Recently there was a bug where the Atrix would only do calls in speakerphone, but I just checked and that issue is now resolved! I had spoke to the dev about it and he informed me that their team does have an Atrix. He informed me that they would be working to resolve the issue and apparently it has been.

Thanks for the info...is there any way to do this while keeping your phone number? I don't care about outgoing calls...its the incoming calls that are important for me.
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the simple answer, no. T-Mobile is the only US carrier to implement UMA. UMA will allow you to make calls over a wifi network.

Singhman said:
Thanks for the info...is there any way to do this while keeping your phone number? I don't care about outgoing calls...its the incoming calls that are important for me.
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Well yes, but it is a bit of a pain. You can port your current # to GV, this may mean paying your ETF. Of course if you can get customer service or a store manager to understand you dont want to cancel your contact but only change your #, you may not have a problem. But good luck, I have not attempted yet.
Or you could do what I do.. Set your GV# to forward to your current mobile # (and your house #, work #, etc). Give your GV# to your friends. With this set up I can always be reached via one # regardless of if I am on the Atrix or the Cap w/no sim, and regardless of if its voip over wifi or through Atts ****ty coverage.
Then again, when the Atrix gets Gingerbread there is a native Android internet calling feature built in that requires some knowledge of SIP. So I guess thats an option too.
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the simple answer, no. T-Mobile is the only US carrier to implement UMA. UMA will allow you to make calls over a wifi network.
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Your short answer is not helpful uninformed. of course we know Att does not provide a voip solution, that does not mean they do not exist on the Atrix.

Couldn't you set your call forwarding to your GV # on your phone when unreachable?

if your in good with the IT folks...might consider a 3g microcell. We just put one here for that purpose....granted it doesn't work with our firewall though.

Or, you could go to the extreme, sort of, make your coworkers happy, too, and buy a GSM repeater. Should cost around 100$

Use groove ip and forward numbers to it from google voice when at work.
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