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Skype Mobile apk on T-Mo?

Is there any chance the Skype mobile apk file could be modified to work on T-Mo network?
Of course this thread might get the easy answers such as:
1) "No"
2) "It cant be done"
3) "It checks verizon's network?"
... but I'd be happier to hear from experts that know how it actually works/could be done.
Verizon skype apk: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rnwab1

No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.

Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off

Paul22000 said:
No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.
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LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul

ap3604 said:
LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul
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: P
Check out my second post (we posted at same time)
This might also help: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=264ef8ddf7c82bcc&hl=en

Paul22000 said:
Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off
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Yeah your right it is pretty crappy that Skype put those restrictions on it by sleeping with the enemy (Big Red).
I was just going to see if it could work on T-Mo though because then I could get my family members to use it as well and make good quality voip calls like I could on the iPhone version.
SIPdroid is dear to my heart but the quality on outbound calls is pretty unusable for me, inbound is still good though. I tell all my friends that "if you get a call from me, dont pick up and just call me back."
Fring 3g quality was serviceable before but it was laggy (I would say something and the other person would start talking and then mid sentence would hear what I said and it would mess up the conversation). It probably has had some updates though so I will try it out again.

dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.

3 has got this for a long time now (no Android client yet) but the acctual calling is routed using a gsm center, no VOIP at all. I have installed the apk for t-mobile and it almost does the same thing ( it doesn't work outside tm network)

superg81 said:
dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.
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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?

http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!

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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?
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Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)

ap3604 said:
Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)
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How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..

Paul22000 said:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!
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so does that mean I won't have to pay a monthly bill? I can just basically, use my google voice number through wifi?

ram130 said:
Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..
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@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?

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What do you have set for Google Voice settings?
Use for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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ask only for international calls. I have not setup vonage yet, gonna do it now and see what is possible. I'll update ya in a few.

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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On my end I can guarantee that its making the calls through WiFi because of the data only plan I am on. T-Mo has two different types of $40/mo data plans:
1) $40/mo with T-mo hotspot access but cannot make ANY calls (except 911)
2) $40/mo without T-mo hotspot access but can make calls for $.10/min
I have the first option and if I try to make a regular call it says "the service you are attempting to use has been restricted or unavailable" and hangs up. Even if I try to make a call through GVoice it says the same thing so I know I cant make any cellular calls. But I can make a call through the Vonage app with WiFi (although I do have to have on Edge/3g with the WiFi your right).
I just checked my T-Mobile account as well and I dont see any minutes used either.
Now if only we can get this thing to think its on WiFi even if only on 3g!

Paul22000 said:
@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...

ap3604 said:
I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...
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When I set GV to not call intercept, it will just call using my normal phone number. Vonage just sits there doing nothing.
A few times the Vonage dialer has popped up (if I had GV set to make ALL calls), but then Vonage crashed (Force Close).
Bleh, must be an issue with the Desire caller =\

Fring is flawless with skype dumb easy to setup for idiots like myself
I use it w/o a simcard in my g1 and keep my sim in the n1
I tried this vonage doesn't seem to work with the sim card out or in...if any one can post the correct steps to make domestic calls over wifi on the vonage app please(w/o a sim card it the only sure way to know its using wifi only)

Wifi for GV Number

Is there any way to use my google voice number to call people when using wifi only? No cell signal?

Eric-1987 said:
Is there any way to use my google voice number to call people when using wifi only? No cell signal?
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Yes you can but you need to be near your home or work phone the pick up the call. Does not seem very efficient.

Why would you need to do that? Cant you use sip to connect to free calls in general but not use it with GV?

no, GV isnt a sip provider.

Um duh. That is completely obvious. Let me give you a little piece of information here.
http://code.google.com/p/google-voi...i/08_Google_Voice_Integration_with_Localphone
http://gurnted.wordpress.com/guides/updated-guide-from-xda/
With those guides can you make calls without being near a PC? If I could even just accept calls from my GV number and make calls with a different one that would be awesome.

Apparently you already have all the answers......

Do I? I dont know if you read my post but I still have a question thats unanswered.

Google Voice - FREE calling in the US without VOIP

Okay guys I have just found something interesting and would like to see what your opinions or if my idea makes sense.
With the new google calling on Gmail.com, I went into my gvoice setting and I saw that I can now forward my calls to gmail.com instead of to my cell phone. I have only checked gmail as the number to forward my calls to, so when I make a call it actually goes through gmail and not my cell phone. thus, its free?
The problem with this is that I can now make free calls out with my gv number but will not be able to receive calls on my cell if someone calls my gv number since its not being forwarded to my cell number.
I hope I am explaining myself clear enough

Pretty sure you just told all incoming calls to go to GMail, and that's it. You didn't change any setting for outgoing calls, you are still using your plan minutes. Because you are still calling an actual phone number.
Just because you change a setting in the Voice options doesn't mean your phone suddenly knows to do voip without any voip program to do it. Your phone is still using normal voice calls.

I think you're right now that I think about it more....my bad...
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Wait, don't quit just yet. What provider are you with? If you have a plan that gives you phone numbers you can call without costing minutes, you can assign your GV number to that. You can then make and receive calls from your GV number without using minutes. I did this for about 6 months with Myfaves until I realized I just didn't make enough phone calls for it to be worth it.

Verizon Galaxy Tab as a Phone (partial) Workaround.

Hi Folks,
So I am not a programmer but an avid user of technology. On my tab I can:
Send and receive SMS to my permanent number, and when someone calls me, the call is forwarded to my work cell. Out bound calls go from my work phone (with or without Google Voice). Or I can use the Google Voice web interface to dial and then Google calls my work phone and the other phone.
The Tab # call forwarding is as far as I can tell not an official feature offered by VZW. In fact most of the folks I spoke to, at VZW, swore up and down that it wouldn't work.
Here is what I did:
Activated call forwarding from the regular cell on my permanent line.
Got a Tab, with its own #. Then swapped the two numbers and the call forwarding stuck.
I think there are about 4 people out there that this will be useful for but none the less all 5 of us will revel in our geekyness. (Insert mad scientist laughter here)
The advantage of all this is that I can finally get my SMS messages without carrying 2 "phones" (yes now I carry a tab and a work phone, that is bulkier package, yes, stop pointing out the obvious. This is only for a total of me and the 4 others remember? haha)
PS. Any programmers reading this, a clean Dialer app for the Tab that interfaces with the Google web dial feature would be awesome.

Hey I'm one of those four that appreciates the suggestion and idea! Ended up borrowing a friends old turd phone to port my ATT number to Verizon on. After it was activated and working I setup call forwarding to forward to my Skype number then immediately had them transfer that number to my new unactivated Galaxy Tab.
Works great have my same old cell phone number that I can text and pictures message and at the same time get calls automatically sent to my Skype so it's transparent to everyone calling me. Went ahead and set up Caller ID on Skype to appear as that same old cell phone number.
Thanks works great here as well hopefully they don't disable that down the line .

i just dont get why people would buy sprint or verizon tab? you can't do much with them, to me the GSM versions are the best.

Verizon has much better 3G coverage then both ATT and T-Mobile combined. Add to that Skype calling is $2.99 a month unlimited and works pretty great. Consider those using Skype need some strong and consistant 3G traveling.

Does this work with a Bluetooth ?

Morkai Almandragon said:
Does this work with a Bluetooth ?
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Current modded Skype app (allows 3G calling) supports media profile only meaning only sound no mic support from the bluetooth headset. It's not that bad in my opinion you just need the tab in your immediate space.
Apparently it's partially a limitation with the Skype app, there is a much newer version out that might have added full bluetooth support but I haven't seen anyone mod it for 3G calling yet (keeping eyes peeled).

Maybe not everyone wants to make carrier based calls on their Tab? I know I have no desire to do that. I have a Sprint Tab and can do exactly what I want with it. I don't need a 7" phone. I bought my EVO for that =)
Carrier based calls on my cell and voip calls on my Tab for when I am going to have long work related calls (once they fix the BT profile that is)

I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.

WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm still new to android. Do you mind explaining how you set up superior with google voice. Don't know how to use superior.

WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm also using sipdroid to make free calls thru google voice but how do you configure sipdroid to receive calls thru your google voice number? Bluetooth works for me though
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I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.

Honestly for what Skype cost a month for unlimited calling in the US and Canada ($2.99 a month) it's a hard to beat option. I simply forward my cellphone/tab number and GV# to Skype and I have Skype caller ID setup to display my GV# when I make calls out.
Add in the latest release 1.0.0.614 (1.0.1) fixes every single shortfall with the Skype app including more notifications for chat and everything else, no more signing out / time outs (8 hours strong without touching the tab still signed in and running), contact integration, etc. I'm using a modded apk for 614 that allows incoming and outgoing calls on 3G and it works without issue.
I may look into Sipdroid and Sipgate as alternatives but for the price Skype works great and has a great backbone as well (considering it's size and use).

Can you post the link for .614? ....
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Well I hit the dreaded bug we've been experiencing on 614 since adding the 3G hack "Already 2 ongoing calls, you must end one call before you can start another one". So it worked great and then now road block , reboot and flush and still the same thing it's like it magically can't call out from 3G (strange).
I'll report as I figure it out.

beestee said:
I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.
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Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?

jtwebfusion said:
Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?
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Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?

i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*

Coolsaber57 said:
Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?
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Sorry. Yes, over a bluetooth headset.

magnum_touchpro said:
i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*
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With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
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woneill1701 said:
With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
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thanks i have it set up and will test it out when i switch over to 3g, my plan was to switch over to 3g and disable the phone but if someone calls my tmobile # it can forward to google voice and ring me while on 3g.. hopefully this works lol

Google Voice + Sprint = ? GV Callback Users

We've heard about the upcoming Google Voice + Sprint integration.
http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/sprint-integrates-google-voice.html
I use Google Voice for all of my calls. I don't give out my regular cell phone number, and have already 'trained' my audience to only use my GV#.
Also, many of you may be familiar with the app GV Callback, or now, "Google Voice Callback", coupled with Sprint to Home. This makes up for the fact that any call placed through the regular Google Voice App is billed as a 'Landline to mobile' (or landline to landline) call, incurring 'anytime minutes'. I discovered this the hard way, after a 2 month project, where I thought I was calling someone's cell phone, but it was really a landline. $900 later.. I began to research.
So basically, all of my outgoing calls (now) show as calls being placed to my "home" aka, my Google Voice number, and are therefore, covered by Sprint to Home ($5).
I haven't found any details on how this Google Voice + Sprint integration will affect this. I also emailed the developer of GV Callback, and he didn't know either. I'm curious if anyone knows, or has heard anything.

I use gv + sipdroid to handle all my inbound and outbound domestic calls. Avoids using up my minutes and keeps my cell number private.
Gv - outbound calls
Sipdroid - inbound calls
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How does that avoid using minutes on its own?

I've used the official Google Voice on my phone for almost 2 years and I don't recall it ever counting as a landline. It's always been mobile-to-mobile for me.

BrianFX said:
How does that avoid using minutes on its own?
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gv uses it's own list of callback numbers that gets re-routed through their VOIP servers to connect to the recipient. Therefore, the receiving party see's your gv number. Although, one does have the option to place a call using gv or without gv before call is made, which comes in handy if you have m2m feature on your plan and want to directly dial using your cell number instead of your gv number.

arashed31 said:
I've used the official Google Voice on my phone for almost 2 years and I don't recall it ever counting as a landline. It's always been mobile-to-mobile for me.
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As mentioned in the comment above, if you use the gv app for your outgoing calls, I'm sure they count as calls to a landline. A way to check is, check an outgoing call on your bill- if you recognize the number, it most likely wasn't called through your gv app. If it's one of those 404 or 972 (or other less common) area codes, then you probably called through the gv app.
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I was wondering the exact same thing. I have to have people who call me a lot use my mobile number so I can use my unlimited sprint to sprint mobile minutes, but that means I can't have them use my GV number. I am hoping that Sprint + GV will make my GV number a sprint mobile number fixing this problem. I think this will be the case but would love to hear from someone who knows.
I'm also wondering what will become of the number I don't keep... does my current cell number go back into the Sprint pool if I choose my GV number? Does my GV number go back into the GV pool? I'd like to keep both if possible for a transition period, but I doubt that will happen.
From what I've read Sprint + GV this will also allow picture messaging to be sent to my GV# and for my phone to manage text messages. Which is great for most everyone in sprint as almost all of their plans have unlimited text. I'm also curious how this will work exactly...

I stop using gv cuz eats my minutes and learned the hard way and calls sometimes not clear it's good feature if U want to hide your # but useless or do pair with sip for free landline minutes.
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hoopsbwc34 said:
I was wondering the exact same thing. I have to have people who call me a lot use my mobile number so I can use my unlimited sprint to sprint mobile minutes, but that means I can't have them use my GV number.
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There's a solution for that if you only want to use your GV number-- in the 1st post. I run about 0-15 minutes per month with that setup
With GV Callback, you can easily set up filters to *not* call certain people from you GV number, etc.
which is why I hope it doesn't change.

Why use that Google Voice Callback? It's not even officially support by Google.
The Google Voice integration does the following:
1. Ports in your Sprint number for free
2. You use Google Voice with you Sprint number
3. All the benefits of Google Voice with your Sprint number for free. No ten dollar fee and no opting out of your contract.

Whosdaman said:
Why use that Google Voice Callback? It's not even officially support by Google.
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I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
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The Google Voice integration does the following:
1. Ports in your Sprint number for free
2. You use Google Voice with you Sprint number
3. All the benefits of Google Voice with your Sprint number for free. No ten dollar fee and no opting out of your contract.
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That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.

decalex said:
I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.
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I haven't run into any problems, do you have free incoming calls? Incoming don't count against my minutes, and I have unlimited nights+weekends.

decalex said:
I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.
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Please pardon my ignorance but I just started researching how to make a call over Wi-Fi and I have tried to make a call from my computer using GV to a toll free number. It worked and I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get charged by google or Sprint so I just wonder why should it be any different if I do the same from my phone??? Over Wi-Fi, using sipdroid with GV.
I just can't get it what they would charge me for? The call isn't using Sprint voice network or Sprint Data network for that matter since I'm using my cable internet.
As far as I see it, it uses Google and pbxes bandwith.
And what is GV callback good for anyway? By my understanding that would be something Sprint could charge me for since I don't have free incoming calls.
And I can make call without GV callback just as well over Wi-Fi with my phone.
AND I totally don't understand how Sprint charged you $900 when you didn't even use your Sprint #
Please explain it to me as I was a little child.

Stank0 said:
Please pardon my ignorance but I just started researching how to make a call over Wi-Fi and I have tried to make a call from my computer using GV to a toll free number. It worked and I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get charged by google or Sprint so I just wonder why should it be any different if I do the same from my phone??? Over Wi-Fi, using sipdroid with GV.
I just can't get it what they would charge me for? The call isn't using Sprint voice network or Sprint Data network for that matter since I'm using my cable internet.
As far as I see it, it uses Google and pbxes bandwith.
And what is GV callback good for anyway? By my understanding that would be something Sprint could charge me for since I don't have free incoming calls.
And I can make call without GV callback just as well over Wi-Fi with my phone.
AND I totally don't understand how Sprint charged you $900 when you didn't even use your Sprint #
Please explain it to me as I was a little child.
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OK he was billed because he was calling a landline number that he thought was a cell which used his anytime minutes and mad him have overage.
With Google voice the downside is that you lose anymobile anytime because all calls are coming from Google which is not a cell number. The solution open provides is to subscribe to sprint to home which lets you have free calls to your home number. You make that home number you Google voice number. Then you use ghost callback to make your calls this makes Google call your cellphone from your Google voice number which is a free call so then every call you make becomes free. Combine this with setting up Google to show your Google voice number as the callerid when it forwards calls to your cell and then every call can be free.
The question open has is that all this depends on essentially having two numbers. A gv number and a sprint number. When you combine them by porting no one really knows what happens to a setup like this...
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stilesja said:
OK he was billed because he was calling a landline number that he thought was a cell which used his anytime minutes and mad him have overage.
With Google voice the downside is that you lose anymobile anytime because all calls are coming from Google which is not a cell number. The solution open provides is to subscribe to sprint to home which lets you have free calls to your home number. You make that home number you Google voice number. Then you use ghost callback to make your calls this makes Google call your cellphone from your Google voice number which is a free call so then every call you make becomes free. Combine this with setting up Google to show your Google voice number as the callerid when it forwards calls to your cell and then every call can be free.
The question open has is that all this depends on essentially having two numbers. A gv number and a sprint number. When you combine them by porting no one really knows what happens to a setup like this...
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Yes, that's what you would have to do to receive INCOMING calls.
Outgoing calls shouldn't be charged at all since I initiate the call over Wi-Fi and it's being routed outside of Sprint network completely.
(Phone->router>modem>my Internet provider> sipdroid>GV>target phone)
And unless Sprint owns at least one of those "nods", I don't think they have any grounds (or even way) for charging (or using my minutes) for anything. Sprint shouldn't even KNOW that I made such a call.
Henceforth. I understand that it's probably true for Sprint to use my anytime minutes for INCOMING calls (without Sprint to Home), OUTGOING are a different story no matter whether I call cell or landline. All expenses are on Google since GV makes that final part of call. And for the time being GV calls (to US numbers) are free. At least till the end of this year.
I'm still missing point of using the GV callback though. As far as I understand it, GV callback will turn your FREE outgoing call into CHARGEABLE incoming call.
EDIT: BUT... If the incoming call come through sipdroid... it shouldnt use my anytime minutes either since it doesn't use Sprint network. Voice nor data.

Tagged for future research OR as seen mentioned elsewhere "for cute kittens".

Haha, ya, I'll do the research once they take away my sprint to home dealy... Still going strong though.
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