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Just got back from making the rounds to 4 sprint stores.
Two each corp stores/normal outlets.
At the one (corp) store I use they said that even if paying full price....ie, no upgrade no contract, they were only getting 10 each at the stores.
As I traveled to the other stores they told me without me mentioning the 10 per store thing, that they would only be getting 10 units.
My store guy says to go to Best Buy and get one and then come back and he will activate it and throw in a few accessories.
They ALL said that the big box stores would be getting more than the sprint stores would be getting.
I know this might not make those who have an upgrade eligibility available to them, but those like me who will be paying full price might need to know.
That's it.
bubbacs1 said:
Just got back from making the rounds to 4 sprint stores.
Two each corp stores/normal outlets.
At the one (corp) store I use they said that even if paying full price....ie, no upgrade no contract, they were only getting 10 each at the stores.
As I traveled to the other stores they told me without me mentioning the 10 per store thing, that they would only be getting 10 units.
My store guy says to go to Best Buy and get one and then come back and he will activate it and throw in a few accessories.
They ALL said that the big box stores would be getting more than the sprint stores would be getting.
I know this might not make those who have an upgrade eligibility available to them, but those like me who will be paying full price might need to know.
That's it.
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You must live in the middle of nowhere, because the big sprint stores out my way (Baltimore) are getting way more than 10. The closest one to my house said 200 atleast on launch day.
Where do you live?
I checked at my local Sprint store yesterday. They said that they had no idea how many Evo's they would have. She said it could be 5 or 20. I'm going to another store tomorrow to see what they tell me.
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I checked at my local Sprint store yesterday. They said that they had no idea how many Evo's they would have. She said it could be 5 or 20. I'm going to another store tomorrow to see what they tell me.
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Oh ****, dude. I'm in Greenville right now too. Where did you ask? I'm planning on getting mine from the Haywood Rd store. Let me know your results.
I'm just outside Chicago, NW 'burbs.
1 of the stores is a repair/tech center, they all said the same thing and I didn't say anything about numbers till they did!
But it would be hard to believe that ANY sprint store gets more than 20, that number of 200 sounds just bragish by the store clerk.
Best Buy in Naperville Illinois, states they will have enough for Pre-Orders with a cut off date for guaranteeing them of 28th this month.
I Went in some big sprint dealers in my local area in New Jersey. They all said that they wont know how many they would be getting. But they know whoever pre-order will most deff get theres before those paying full price or upgrade with no pre-order.
Most likly doing pre-orders on phones like this. They send in how many pre orders they got and just order that many. Same with the palm pre. people had to wait 2-3 weeks before they got another shipment in of palm pres.
Like the user said above i think they would just get about 10-20 and half of those or most will be for pre-orders. If those people dont pick they order up with in 2 days. then its just a first come first serve thing
Today I went to a Sprint store that's by my work (scouting a "plan B" store in case the one by my house runs out) and asked the following:
Q: Are you taking pre-orders for the EVO
A: No.
Q: Will you be opening early on the 4th?
A: No. 9AM like usual. (the one by my house IS opening early)
Q: How many phones will be here on the 4th?
A: Not sure but if you get here before noon you will probably get one. Probably not if you wait until 7PM.
Q: Really? Do you anticipate a long line when you open?
A: At the Palm Pre release there were 15 people already in line when I opened.
Q: Any advice?
A: (Laughs)If it ends up being like the Palm Pre release, which had as much buzz before it as the EVO, it will be crazy for a couple of hours and then dead.
If you come here around 11AM or noon there will probably be no wait.
So, it sounds like there's going to be more than 10 phones there on the 4th. This is a small store that's kind of off the beaten path so I imagine the larger stores will have more.
I've also got a guy at a Radio Shack that said he will put one aside for me if I call him in the morning of the 4th. He made it seem like I had nothing to worry about. I think I'm (sort of) covered but I am still worrying and obsessing about it
HTC's next super-phone should have a time machine built in to get me to the next upgrade.
yeah the store b y me pretty much said the same thing. the manager said around 100 phones. they are opening an hour early. he said come around noon and there should be no wait. he said sprint orders phones from numbers from recent launch dates. he said when the palm pre released the store got 90 phones and they were sold out by the end of the day. he said the evo has got a lot more attention so it should be around 100 phones this store will get. oh yeah, no pre orders.
watzone69: I checked 2 stores in the Pflugerville area this weekend with much the same list of questions...same replies. Come before the end of the day, should be ok.
Radioshack where I live said they are getting 10 phones plus the number of preorders they get.
Sprint is anticipated a large order. If you call most of the large stores they will not be taking pre-orders not because of the lack of interest. They are not taking pre-orders because they will most likely have enough to feed the frenzy for the first 4-6 hours.
The Droid Incredible was the same way. There wasn't a long line but more so of a steady pace that last the whole day. It was gone the next. Now nationally backordered.
Just get in a little early or call on June 3rd and make nice with a manager and tell them you would really like one on June 4th. I did that with the Incredible and they held one for me. I just got them to talk about the phone, how business, do you like the phone, etc. Then they said - "Hey look I will hold one for you, give me your name".
Don't spend your wheels worrying about it. You have to remember there are Best Buys, Radio Shacks, Sprint Stores and Independent resellers as well. Lot's of ways to get one.
The Radio Shack I went to said they haven't even had any inquiries about it. After I pre-ordered mine he said he would call the district manager and make sure they had it for me.
sold out in virgina bb
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=9895819&_requestid=133906
I am trying to see how many evo's were sold this past weekend? I did preorder and really like my phone. Just curious to see the numbers.... I did find this link for what it is worth... Not sure it is says much, but that was all I could find so far....
http://www.streetinsider.com/Analys...extel+(S)+Into+HTC+EVO+4G+Launch/5697680.html
ive heard between 1.5-2 mill from various sprint/shack employees
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and two of those are mine! Just waiting for Monday morning delivery from UPS.
My guess is 600,000-750,000. I have no sources or inside knowledge, it's pure speculation on my part, but it sounds more accurate than the numbers I've seen so far in this thread.
When I was at RS getting my new phone, the regional manager from Sprint Ken, walked in and apologized in person for how long it took to get the phone activated and also said 700,000 were pre-ordered.... So not sure that was true, but I am thinking it was....
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My local radio shack manager said their entire company only had 10,000 phones, so 60-some thousand sounds about right.
I can't wait for my 2 to get here tomorrow...
100,000 sounds reasonable, 1 million is insanity.
Sprint stores around here sold out by mid-day Friday but some RS stores still had units by mid-day on Saturday. A RS sales rep whom I had given my phone # actually called me to see if I was still interested in buying it Saturday...
Puerto Rico can be a weird market tho. RS and BB had no accessories whatsoever too, Sprint stores had the standard stuff that Sprint stores all over the US do. I actually went by BB today to look at cases, they had Droid Incredible cases even tho Verizon left Puerto Rico around 3-4 years ago and there's no Verizon market here at all, lol.
The one sprint store I stopped by yesterday afternoon had a 30-person wait list. Take it for what it is worth.
Did you ask how many we're upgrades?
So, has anybody verified yet if the $539 wifi Xoom at Sam's Club rumor was valid? There's nothing yet on their Web site, and my closest Sam's club is 30 miles away...
My local Sam's Club did not have it at all. And as you said, its not on their site yet.
Yeah, I called around and it's looking like only some selected stores will be carrying the Xoom, maybe the sames ones that are carrying the iPad. None of those are close to me, so I'll be off to Costco today to get my wifi-only (and then return the 3G version once I see that the wifi-only version is decent).
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So, has anybody verified yet if the $539 wifi Xoom at Sam's Club rumor was valid? There's nothing yet on their Web site, and my closest Sam's club is 30 miles away...
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As it has been said about 100 times, the picture was from a setup store. Its 589 at sams.
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As it has been said about 100 times, the picture was from a setup store. Its 589 at sams.
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Obviously, I hadn't seen it verified that the price at the setup store wouldn't make it into reality, and if that's been verified "100 times" since the wifi Xoom started selling this morning, I'd be amazed. Indeed, my question was about confirmation one way or another about whether or not that price would be the official price, which could only be settled today.
I also haven't seen the wifi Xoom at any Sam's Club stores, period, at any price. So, a good answer would have been, "It's available at some Sam's Clubs, but it's selling for $589." Incidentally, what stores have you seen it at? I called the three within an hour's drive of my house and they all said they won't be carrying it. Apparently, only certain stores might be carrying it (and they weren't sure), probably the limited number of stores that also carry the iPad.
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Obviously, I hadn't seen it verified that the price at the setup store wouldn't make it into reality, and if that's been verified "100 times" since the wifi Xoom started selling this morning, I'd be amazed. Indeed, my question was about confirmation one way or another about whether or not that price would be the official price, which could only be settled today.
I also haven't seen the wifi Xoom at any Sam's Club stores, period, at any price. So, a good answer would have been, "It's available at some Sam's Clubs, but it's selling for $589." Incidentally, what stores have you seen it at? I called the three within an hour's drive of my house and they all said they won't be carrying it. Apparently, only certain stores might be carrying it (and they weren't sure), probably the limited number of stores that also carry the iPad.
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It was covered on every major place that ran the $539 story that this was a mock store and a mockup potential price, and there was no real indication that any store would actually be selling this low or selling it at all with any widespread availability, especially considering Costco is only selling for $589.
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It was covered on every major place that ran the $539 story that this was a mock store and a mockup potential price, and there was no real indication that any store would actually be selling this low or selling it at all with any widespread availability, especially considering Costco is only selling for $589.
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Hence my freaking question... You know, to verify or debunk the rumor.
Damn, these forums are frustrating sometimes.
I went to my Sam's Club (Naperville, IL) and they don't even have a date for them to arrive in inventory. The local Costco however, had the big display with cardboard XOOMs with gel case for $589.
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Hence my freaking question... You know, to verify or debunk the rumor.
Damn, these forums are frustrating sometimes.
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Exactly what I was saying... No one has been able to confirm the price or availability. Not sure what else you want people to tell you. I was simply informing you that the first poster isn't incorrect, it really has been said a million times that this is a mockup price.
I don't think that meeting informative answers with snarkiness is getting you anywhere. If you've read up on any of the articles that this was reported in when it first came out (been a while now) you'll see that there really isn't any information on the Sam's Club price or release. The only response you're gonna get is this unless you contact a store and get a concrete answer.
I was waiting on Sam's myself but with Amazon being tax free and free shipping, it works out to almost the same as Sam's price+tax.
The Sam's Club in Kenosha WI did not have it either, nor could he tell me if and when to expect it. I wound up buying one at the BB up there since they offer 18 months same as cash, and sales tax is half of Illinois.
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG
Motorola released earnings today...
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/28/mot...xoom-tablets-shipped-increase-in-net-revenue/
Glad to see the analysts were wrong. If Moto shaves a little off the price is think they'll fly off the shelves.
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ya, 450-500 would really compete with the transformer, esp when all the people get to best buy and see its sold out
DroidHam said:
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG
Motorola released earnings today...
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/28/mot...xoom-tablets-shipped-increase-in-net-revenue/
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Actually you are wrong. They shipped 250,000, they did not sell 250,000.
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Actually you are wrong. They shipped 250,000, they did not sell 250,000.
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Actually, that's money in their pocket, they sold 250k. Verizon and brick and mortars are the ones who haven't sold 250k.
almostinsane said:
Actually you are wrong. They shipped 250,000, they did not sell 250,000.
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You don't quite understand the concept as it applied to a public company releasing quarterly results. Why are you so intent on pooping on these threads? Does it piss you off so much that xoom sales weren't as bad as the apple slavelords demanded you to believe?
Glad to see the numbers reflect reality. The wifi xoom is sold out in retail stores here in st. Louis. Had to order it online
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seriously, shipped or sold, every store in Montréal has sold all xooms and accessories since day one...
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You don't quite understand the concept as it applied to a public company releasing quarterly results. Why are you so intent on pooping on these threads? Does it piss you off so much that xoom sales weren't as bad as the apple slavelords demanded you to believe?
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I don't think you need to have an "apple slavelord" to see that the article that the OP linked to says in the TITLE that:
"Motorola Reports 250,000 XOOM Tablets Shipped"
and then the OP creates a thread that says:
"250,000 Xooms sold, NOT 25,000
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG"
Its called reading comprehension. And yes there is a major difference between shipped and sold. If Motorola SOLD 250k tablets, then there would be significantly more in stores ready to be sold and various retailers would have to adjust their purchase orders from Motorola to compensate for that demand. If they SHIPPED 250k tablets, stores might have only sold 100k meaning that future orders for new Xoom's from Motorola will be slower as retailers have overstocked the item and can shift inventory from one location to another to compensate. That is why there are two separate words and they are not interchangeable.
Also, the entire point of this thread and especially dumb comments like yours, is to prove that the Xoom is popular among consumers. This article does nothing to help prove that point, as it gives ZERO sales figures. Who cares if Motorola shipped 5 million Xooms if consumers only bought 50 of them. I don't really understand why you would even want to bring up an issue like this as you will never "win" against Apple and the entire conversation is stupid to begin with. Who cares how popular your device is among consumers?
I have no doubts that Xoom sales are good, but they are right. They shipped 250,000 units, that doesn't mean that 250,000 were sold to consumers--which is the important number to note.
Again, no doubts that Xoom sales are great, but jumping on a guy who is just pointing out a fact, calling him an Apple fanboy, etc, really not necessary.
Random comment to help re-leave the tension: Tomorrow's sales are yesterday's sales today.
To be honest, why do we care how many sell? It's not like Motorola will stop supporting the
Xoom if nobdoy buys more. Still it's nice to know they had some sort of confidence in this device.
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To be honest, why do we care how many sell? It's not like Motorola will stop supporting the
Xoom if nobdoy buys more. Still it's nice to know they had some sort of confidence in this device.
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People like to justify their Xoom purchase. They wanna prove its selling well and that their purchase was good. They wanna know that everything's gonna be okay with their Xoom, so they're going to want to prove that other people are buying it too.
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I don't think you need to have an "apple slavelord" to see that the article that the OP linked to says in the TITLE that:
"Motorola Reports 250,000 XOOM Tablets Shipped"
and then the OP creates a thread that says:
"250,000 Xooms sold, NOT 25,000
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG"
Its called reading comprehension. And yes there is a major difference between shipped and sold. If Motorola SOLD 250k tablets, then there would be significantly more in stores ready to be sold and various retailers would have to adjust their purchase orders from Motorola to compensate for that demand. If they SHIPPED 250k tablets, stores might have only sold 100k meaning that future orders for new Xoom's from Motorola will be slower as retailers have overstocked the item and can shift inventory from one location to another to compensate. That is why there are two separate words and they are not interchangeable.
Also, the entire point of this thread and especially dumb comments like yours, is to prove that the Xoom is popular among consumers. This article does nothing to help prove that point, as it gives ZERO sales figures. Who cares if Motorola shipped 5 million Xooms if consumers only bought 50 of them. I don't really understand why you would even want to bring up an issue like this as you will never "win" against Apple and the entire conversation is stupid to begin with. Who cares how popular your device is among consumers?
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They technically are sales figures for motorola, but they are not sales figures for verizon, costco, and any of the other countless retailers out there. At no point did the person you respond to say anything about apple, all he said were that people claiming only 25k had been sold were inaccurate, and he is right. This does in fact prove that the xoom has sold better than expected because those retailers don't keep that many units sitting in storage, and they certainly wouldn't keep ordering the tablet if it wasn't selling. I know for a fact that the tablet was fairly popular simply because they sold out in all the retail locations near me. I had to drive nearly an hour and half away just to find a best buy that had them in stock. This was the second week the xoom was out. Anyway you can get all bent out of shape if you want but the xoom was not as big as a flop as you seem to want it to be.
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Motorola ships 250k to vendors = sales for Motorola, no?
The link was regarding Motorola's sales, which were 250,000. "Shipping them to vendors" is the same as selling them.
I never once talked about how many best buy, walmart, or any other store sold.
I said they shipped 250k, which means they sold 250k.
Did I miss something here? Why is this hard to comprehend?
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Motorola ships 250k to vendors = sales for Motorola, no?
The link was regarding Motorola's sales, which were 250,000. "Shipping them to vendors" is the same as selling them.
I never once talked about how many best buy, walmart, or any other store sold.
I said they shipped 250k, which means they sold 250k.
Did I miss something here? Why is this hard to comprehend?
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Some people just don't understand how a supply chain works, especially a J.I.T. one (typically what the US has is J.I.T.)
JIT = Just In Time. Most if not all any more, Major Retailers work off Just In Time, meaning the only stock they truly carry in store is what is sitting on the shelves, or what is soon to be on the shelves. This also means a stores warehouses, are nothing more than emptying Tucks A, B, C and D's contents into trucks E,F,G, and H. There is no physical inventory of anything, it is almost literally straight from manufacturer to sales floor.
JIT does several things:
1) In the event of an issue with a product (recall), the retailer has a very limited inventory to rope in.
2) Reduces Cost
3) Reduces storage space (See #2)
4) Reduces the volume a store actually purchases at one time (Again see #2, less items in the clearance bin) This also makes their financial figures looks a ton better due to the lower over head.
Motorola doesn't front the product to the retailers and say "Hey, pay me when you sell all these" - no, they have to recoup production cost - which means they probably have a net15-net30 contract with most retailers (meaning, 15-30 days to pay or your cut off the supply flow) regardless of how many units the retailer actually sold.
Now it is true that we don't know how many of these are in the hands of customers actually being used. Only Big G and Moto probably have any clue about that number. I would venture to guess, because retail stores don't keep "Stock" piled in the back - most of them are in the hands of customers.
I work at a retailer and that is generally correct. You only want enough stock to get you through until the next shipment, ideally. There are times you load up, when demand is expected to be high and the manufacturer has had issues keeping the supply chan full-looks at nintendo.
You certainly don't want to have a lot of an unpopular product so when sales are unknown you go conservative. Our you end up like the nintendo 3ds in the us. It should have sold well, did not and now you have a crap ton of these things you can't give away.
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Our you end up like the nintendo 3ds in the us. It should have sold well, did not and now you have a crap ton of these things you can't give away.
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I would take one for 1/4 the price....#justSayin
Silly Nintendo
muyoso said:
I don't think you need to have an "apple slavelord" to see that the article that the OP linked to says in the TITLE that:
"Motorola Reports 250,000 XOOM Tablets Shipped"
and then the OP creates a thread that says:
"250,000 Xooms sold, NOT 25,000
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG"
Its called reading comprehension. And yes there is a major difference between shipped and sold. If Motorola SOLD 250k tablets, then there would be significantly more in stores ready to be sold and various retailers would have to adjust their purchase orders from Motorola to compensate for that demand. If they SHIPPED 250k tablets, stores might have only sold 100k meaning that future orders for new Xoom's from Motorola will be slower as retailers have overstocked the item and can shift inventory from one location to another to compensate. That is why there are two separate words and they are not interchangeable.
Also, the entire point of this thread and especially dumb comments like yours, is to prove that the Xoom is popular among consumers. This article does nothing to help prove that point, as it gives ZERO sales figures. Who cares if Motorola shipped 5 million Xooms if consumers only bought 50 of them. I don't really understand why you would even want to bring up an issue like this as you will never "win" against Apple and the entire conversation is stupid to begin with. Who cares how popular your device is among consumers?
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Actually, to add a bit of circumstantial evidence, which I'm aware doesn't mean much, there are a lot of people that know what the Xoom is. I have my Xoom with me at all times, it's my data device, I got rid of my Droid and moved to a dumbphone. Anyways, everywhere I go, people recognize instantly it's not an iPad and usually ask me if it's a Xoom. People are actually interested in it and I've had many chances to demonstrate it's capabilities to people. There's a lot of interest, even if it doesn't translate directly to sales yet. I feel like the attention I get with my Xoom is likened to the attention the early adopters of the iPad got.
Also, you've not addressed my previous post.
The problem is, he didn't just state it in this thread, he stated it in the thread I started before earnings were released.
And it isn't about reading comprehension. It is about understanding how a public company reports. Apple gets to say that they sold every i-whatever that was shipped to an app,e store because apple gets to control how an apple store reports what it is selling. Motorola does not get to control what best buy states, as they are separate companies. Best buy will not allow motorola to ship more xooms than best buy is able to sell unless best buy is able to ship back unsold inventory. Motorola is a tier one producer, and it will not enter into retail agreements that are contingent on mass adoption - they don't need to.
When motorola ships a product, it is a sale for motorola. When the entity motorola shipped to agreed to the shipment, it is because that entity has projected the entire inventory to be sold at some point in the very near future.
Motorola is precluded by FINRA from overstating sales figures in quarterly reports. Motorola cannot count shipped units as sold if the inventory shipped is not sold or accounted for as sold. If moto says shipped, consider it as sold. And while I doubt you will take my word as gospel, just know that my job in the real world depends upon my ability to understand what a company is saying in quarterly reports.
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Hi fellow Americans,
I have a layover of 10 hours at LAX, can I buy Nexus 10 somewhere around?
I would like to pay in cash and not to order in advance something like "store delivery" as I understood it needs to be paid at the time of order. I have exchanged the dollars when the exchange rate was favourable, that's why I would like to pay cash.
Thanks for tips!
If you have 10 hrs, you will easily find it. Start at Staples.com put in LA zip code and search within 50 miles. You should find store that has one in stock. They only have 32 GB versions.
I don't know if this link would work for you: http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/StaplesStoreInventory?URL=&errorUrl=&partNumber=&catentryId=599656&skuPrice=%24499.00&storeClicked=&qtyAvail=&address1=&city=&state=&zipCode=90045&distance=50 but it's 50 miles radius store availability of Nexus 10 32GB from 90045 (this should be LAX) at Staples. Unfortunately it looks like all listed shops say "Not sold at this location"
Try WalMart. As of a few minutes ago the show them at one store in the general area but only one. Its West Hills which is a bit of a drive but check when you get there.
I'm in Chicago and many WalMarts have them but no Staples.
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Try WalMart. As of a few minutes ago the show them at one store in the general area but only one. Its West Hills which is a bit of a drive but check when you get there.
I'm in Chicago and many WalMarts have them but no Staples.
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I live in Burbank, Ca. On the outskirts of LA (about 25 minutes from LAX). Nothing real close to LAX that I can think of... Never seen staples carry the N10 anywhere close to here and are always "sold out" of the N7.
Best bet if I needed to get one real quick would be Walmart. Only people I have heard that carry it locally. Mission Hills or maybe even Van Nuys. Probably 20-30 min cab ride from LAX. If you have a 10 hour layover, might be something to do. Check and see if there is one closer to LAX... I'm sure there is, they're everywhere. Call ahead and check with the electronics department to make sure they have them available
You can check Walmart store inventory online so no need to call but if you find 1 you may want to call and ask them to hold it.