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Hi,
This is my first post here. I got my htc hero a couple days ago and I've spent most of that time tinkering with it. I'm generally loving it, although I prefer the original android home screen to htc's custom interface. I've noticed that some things like the phonebook are quite laggy, and am under the impression that android's stock phonebook would feel much snappier.
So I would like to install a stock cupcake or donut android to my phone. The thing is, I'm really new to this so I'm not even sure if it's possible. Can it be done? Has any of you guys done it? Even if I succeed, will I be able to use my phone to call and send messages, or will I need to do extra stuff? Can I backup everything in my phone, so that I'll be able to revert it if I break something or I decide that no, the sense ui was better after all?
You see that's a lot of questions, I really hope you guys can give me a hand with this.
Cheers!
After reading some other threads, I think I have some of my questions answered. But do you guys know if any of the stock android builds works with the hero? Can I install anything to it, apart from the system that came with the phone?
you can only install Hero builds on your phone! currently there are none as the phone just came out. So just be patient. If you think the UI is too laggy.. clear default home screen and use regular launcher..
The HTC touchflo stuff works on top of android so If you REALLY wanted to revert back to basic android then i guess you could after rooting and installing a basic android ROM. WARNING though, i dont think that has been done yet. reasons in include
WHY WHY WHY?
Hero has exchange support, basic flash support.
barryallott said:
The HTC touchflo stuff works on top of android so If you REALLY wanted to revert back to basic android then i guess you could after rooting and installing a basic android ROM.
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Well minogue seems to think otherwise... has anyone tried actually?
Anyway, if I use nandroid to backup my system I shouldn't risk anything right?
I think I'll just wait but, can you point me to a basic android Rom? I've seen there are lots of them and I would't know which one to pick.
I written this with the phone, by the way. Awesome keyboard
frandavid100 said:
Well minogue seems to think otherwise... has anyone tried actually?
Anyway, if I use nandroid to backup my system I shouldn't risk anything right?
I think I'll just wait but, can you point me to a basic android Rom? I've seen there are lots of them and I would't know which one to pick.
I written this with the phone, by the way. Awesome keyboard
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And you would lose this 'awesome' keyboard!
Just turn off SenseUI. The rest of Android runs underneath.
Where are the default Calendar and Contact apps ?
I'm in exactly the same boat as frandavid100. I love the Hero's hardware, but most of SenseUI is too flashy; I don't care about most of the improvements (seven home screens, irritating widgets, lots of Facebook/Twitter/Flickr integration, exchange support) and I'd say some of them are worse than the alternative (the calendar doesn't show as much information in the month view; Flash in the browser just makes websites much, much slower and doesn't work for video).
On the other hand, apparently 1.5 is much faster, and 2.0 (on release) will have multitouch in Google Maps as well as in the browser, so I'd like to get running the stock Android operating system.
I don't know anything about cooking ROMs, though, so I'll wait for a kind benefactor. Hopefully it's not just frandavid100 and I who want a faster version of Android...
Glad to see I'm not alone.
Anyway, is there a way to test the stock android keyboard and phonebook? I kinda dig htc's keyboard, with its compact qwerty layout, but I hate the phonebook and I haven't found a decent alternative in the market.
+1
Beeing used to G1 I would also prefer simple UI .. not that Sense is bad
but I prefer simple that sexy UI Then we could benefit of full hero
power on cupcake or donut ...
phcollignon said:
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Beeing used to G1 I would also prefer simple UI .. not that Sense is bad
but I prefer simple that sexy UI Then we could benefit of full hero
power on cupcake or donut ...
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You already effectively have Cupcake on the Hero - firmware version is V1.5, which is a Cupcake build. If you just drop Sense UI, your back to almost a vanilla G1 build, which the exception you have HTC keyboards and apps as opposed to Google ones. Given that the hardware in the Hero is pretty similar to the Magic (at least those with 288mb RAM), there isn't exactly any additional "power" to harness either!
With respect to Donut, as far as I'm aware there are *no* operational Donut ROMs available for the G1, Magic, or Hero as yet.
Regards,
Dave
I do also prefer the clean fast Android interface over HTC's one, I know how to make the default home screen to be the Android one but touchflo keeps running in the backgroupd eating more than 30MB RAM and wondering if it is safe to uninstall this package and probably others too. In brief, disable the sense UI. It is maybe nice but at this point is slow compared to the Android interface
yeh, i would like to remove the touchflo altogether as it keeps running in the background even though i use the default home screen. Or at least have some sort of of startup manager to stop things running at boot.
must be out soon, there is some leaked screenshots here including the widget.
http://androidguys.com/?p=6260
OK - so the Her is already running Cupcake, but with SenseUI on top, and while you can disable some parts of SenseUI from running, you can't actually get rid of them.
In that case I think I'll wait and see what happens around Donut. If HTC release an updated Hero ROM, I'll go with that, and if they don't, I can wait for a generous ROM chef to bake a nice, basic Donut ROM for the Hero. Thanks for everyone's help.
You'll need to root your phone to do it:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...if-you-wanted-to-get-rid-of-rosie-completely/
Me tooo
I would love to be able to 'downgrade' my Hero to the stock android.
At the very least, I'd love an easy way to install the stock android applications on top of the HTC ones, and hopefully uninstall the ones I don't use so as to save some application space.
Ok so I would like to get a vibrant soon but there are a few things that bother me that I would like to get resolved.
#1 how are the custom ROMS? Can i use Galaxy S and Captivate ROMS or is it specific to the vibrant only?
#2 I really dont like the UI they put on there. I like the stock android OR sense UI. I know sense will probably never make it to the vibrant but how about the stock android? Are there any ROMS right now that offer that? I know how to theme but that would be a lot of changing.
#3 development... I feel like since the Galaxy S will be across the world and many carriers development would be fairly good right? How is it now? What do you think it will be like in the future?
Hey NC!
#1 how are the custom ROMS? Can i use Galaxy S and Captivate ROMS or is it specific to the vibrant only?
There are no ROMs right now. CM6 has two developers working on porting to the Galaxy though.
#2 I really dont like the UI they put on there. I like the stock android OR sense UI. I know sense will probably never make it to the vibrant but how about the stock android? Are there any ROMS right now that offer that? I know how to theme but that would be a lot of changing.
Use ADW or LauncherPro (amazing on this phone)
#3 development... I feel like since the Galaxy S will be across the world and many carriers development would be fairly good right? How is it now? What do you think it will be like in the future?
It will eventually be very good. With the volume sold and ability of this phone, it will eventually have great development. Right now, a lot of developers, especially on here are used to HTC and getting used to Samsung and the differences.
You have to remember, This phone Just came out and the other 2 still haven't.
Plus, this is not an HTC phone.
That being said, development is going strong.
Expect the Flood gates to open soon.
FYI: I use both ADW launcher and Launcher Pro (bothe give me the the stock android experience you seek.
i think the custom roms will start flowing.
about touchwiz, I thought that would be the first thing i removed, but i have actually liked some things about it, but like has already been mentioned, use ADW or whatever launcher you prefer.
I think development witll really start to take off in time.
Thanks for the quick replies. Great answers
I use:
Touch Calendar
ADW launcher
aContacts
stock News & Weather
Klaxon
cubed.
That pretty much gets me around the Yucky TouchFlow. I also rooted and installed Root Explorer to get rid of the bloatware easily.
I was really hesitant, and except for having to tap ever so accurately when correcting text because there's no dpad (I've put a request in to a dev that I like for a soft dpad), I'm very happy.
If you get too much lag because of the slow storage memory, there's a hack for that. I haven't use it yet.
Just took a chance and bought it. Loving the phone but just as I expected, touchwiz is quite annoying. Cant wait to see a 2.2 cyannogen rom
Now that we have our recovery files and root would anyone have any mods to suggest? For one thing I would love to go to Android stock 2.2 and get rid of all the Motorola stuff. I would also love to snatch up the Samsung dialer app. Besides new mods does anyone know how to do this?
If you tried a new mod or have been able to get rid of blur please enlighten us.
If it's possible I'd like to at least go to the stock Android 2.2 theme because the Blur theme makes some apps display incorrectly that are expecting a stock theme:
Cyanogenmod or bust.
i too would love to get rid of MotoBlur and run stock 2.2 or a fast mod
Yeah, I'd just like to get a vanilla version built from source. Although I wouldnt mind being able to have a few of the moto tools already installed on the device.
I know we are somewhat limited by the bootloader, but I too would like to get back to stock android, I just don't care for the moto stuff at all.
I'd love to get rid of the moto crap... I'm new to the android scene and I feel like I bought a name brand PC loaded with ****. Can we revert to a stock android OS?
I for one would love to see MIUI portedto the Droid 2. Where's the Team-D2 MIUI???
Bump +1 on CyanogenMod too. I miss CM from my old D2 :'(
I just bought my HTC Desire HD the other day.
Very happy with it!
I got one of the models with the camera sitting incorrectly, and the loose camera ringy thingy...
I'm contacting Vodafone about that... is that correct? Or do I contact HTC?
ANYWAY!
My actual question is that I'd like to get rid of the 'Vodafone-ness' - how do I do it?
There are some guides in the developers forum, but they all start from someone with at least a little bit of knowledge.
This is both my first Android and smart phone - prior to this I had a Sony Ericsson T707.
So I am in completely new territory.
If someone could please explain - or point me to - a guide for absolute begginners where I can learn about things and stuff so I can know what is being talked about on some of the more technical threads on this forum I would appreciate it very very much.
Also, I can't decide what I would like to do with my DHD, whether or not to put stock standard Android, or the Android with HTC Sense or not.
I really like the music player that came with this phone, can I get that on Android without the rest of Sense?
What is Android like without Sense?
Thank you.
Android is pretty much what you make of it, so if you are looking for an alternative to Sense, my recommendation is Launcher Pro or AWD Launcher.
I came from Motorola Milestone with Launcher Pro and I was quite happy with it (happy with Launcher Pro, not Motorola), but I like DHD Sense experience and so far, I am sticking to it. All Sense widgets are integral part of Sense and cannot be used without it. But if you want a decent music app outside Sense, I would suggest Cubed (aka 3) music player - great player, nice UI a cool widgets with album art.
You can always apply a new skin to Sense - that could override some of the DHD branding.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801928
I think you should start by rooting your phone with Visionary+ r12 and gradually build your expertize. I am quite a noob myself. But part of the Android experience is exploring what is and what is not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837519
Rooting and getting a decent file explorer is good start, and then just go through the forums and try to follow the guides that you are confident with.
Good luck!
Hi guys,
So I posted something up earlier this week asking on how to upgrade and not lose all my personal stuff. Well I think I'm ready as far as not losing the personal stuff. But I'm still confused on the upgrading.
I installed Android on my HD2 myself a while back ago and lately have thought about upgrading to the latest software.
I have read the threads, but I still find myself confused. Still don't Know what "Sense" is or the latest working software is. Do I need to get another radio rom? So on and so forth. As a side note, since I've installed Android on my phone, it has been working fine. I'd like to keep that going if and when I upgrade.
I used a nand rom from Dark Forces Team on a T-Mobile US phone.
Is it worth upgrading? I'm assuming the latest software has swipe keyboard, which I think is really cool.
Just hoping someone can hold my hand and guide me.
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong section, but I think I'm right.
Thanks in advance...again!
You should perform a backup with Titanium Backup, to backup all your settings and apps. The upgrade process might differ from different builds, but they should all involve porting over data.img in your current build. As for the new builds, it really depends on what version you are using. If its far outdated, you should consider updating as many issues and bugs would have been fixed. Most of the NAND builds now sport Android 2.3.5, CM7, Sense 2.3 or Sense 3.5. You should check out the various NAND builds here and flash one that you like (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928) Sense or HTC Sense is HTC's own UI on top of Android. Its like those third party launchers like LP,ADW,Go Launcher, but of course, Sense is an official and fully integrated UI, so its like a skin over the whole Android OS. Im sure you know what im talking about by now.Sense 2.3 is the UI that was on all the HTC devices before the HTC Sensation and EVO 3d came out. Sense 3.5 adds many goodies like a new lockscreen, widgets, home screen transitions and animations. The baseline, however, is that i recommend you try the different NAND build types mentioned above so that you get the whole picture.
Tell you the truth, I'm still kind of lost. I went to the link. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming every post has a rom that I can potentially use? I am also not familiar with the terminology yet.
"...CM7,Sense or HTC Sense is HTC's own UI on top of Android. Its like those third party launchers like LP,ADW,Go Launcher..."
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So the same way I went about installing Android, is the same way I go about updating. It's not just a simple file that quickly integrates with what's already installed?
JMnaCon said:
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So the same way I went about installing Android, is the same way I go about updating. It's not just a simple file that quickly integrates with what's already installed?
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This thread may help you to get an idea about new methods. The thread from senior member T-Macgnolia helped me lot when I flash my HD2 first time last week.
Here is the link,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
Hope this helps you.