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N00b Questions - Why change ROM? Why Root?

Hi,
Newby n00b here. I received my Magic/Mytouch/Ion/etc on tuesday and am very happy with it. It is fast, and there is a seemingly endless number of (free ) apps to play around with.
Now, I love gadgets and I love playing with them and tweaking them. The Android OS is what attracted me to the Magic. I've been reading these forums with interest for a little while and there is a lot of discussion about this ROM or that ROM, Rooting etc... But there is relatively little discussion about why anyone changes ROM? I can understand the urge to from a nerdish point of view, but why do it otherwise?
What are the benefits? Why change? My Magic runs the stock OS as it comes from Vodafone in the UK, I've loaded a number of apps and widgets which change the look of the phone, so I'd really only be looking at functionality. I also already run Touchdown for synching my work emails.
Rooting? That "opens" the machine doesn't it? allowing me to access further apps, etc...?
Sorry if the questions are a simple.
Note that this is n't so much another "which ROM should I use", more about what am I missing out on by not changing?
Cheers.

Root'ing your phone enables your to do a lot more things.
For me the main driver in rooting my phone was so that I could get paid apps in the market, which I couldn't do yet in NZ without being able to fake my location which root is needed for.
You can overcock your device so that it can run a hero rom better and all sorts of other wonderful things.
If you are a tweaker and want to mod your phone lots then rooting you phone is a must.
But beware with great power comes great responsibility

Cheers. Rooting is definitely something I'm going to do.
But changing the ROM? I'm not really seeing any compelling reason why I'd do this? The Hero ROM looks nice, but I'm OK with the aesthetics of my Magic as it is, so not really that bothered by looks. Functionality? It adds a couple of desktops (or whatever they are called) and Touchflo which lets you do the iPhone pinch and expand? That's about it isn't it? It is MS Exchange capable, but isn't that only over a USB? And I've got Touchdown anyway... Most of the Hero ROMs seem to come at the price of serious performance loss.
What else is it about the alternative ROMs that makes people switch?

njakobs said:
But beware with great power comes great responsibility
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LOL I like that!
But one of the major thing I like about root is that most/all Devs takes out the bloatware that comes with the phones. There are amazing Devs right now with the G1/Dream that are pushing the limits on the phone.
Also over here T-Mobile US hinders tethering and root can have you up and running. And I personally like tinkering with the possibilities of what the phone can do. Granted the Hero ROM is still not there as far as speed but getting close.

palexr said:
Cheers. Rooting is definitely something I'm going to do.
But changing the ROM? I'm not really seeing any compelling reason why I'd do this? The Hero ROM looks nice, but I'm OK with the aesthetics of my Magic as it is, so not really that bothered by looks. Functionality? It adds a couple of desktops (or whatever they are called) and Touchflo which lets you do the iPhone pinch and expand? That's about it isn't it? It is MS Exchange capable, but isn't that only over a USB? And I've got Touchdown anyway... Most of the Hero ROMs seem to come at the price of serious performance loss.
What else is it about the alternative ROMs that makes people switch?
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TouchFLO is the UI hero uses, multitouch is what lets you pinch and stretch to zoom.

AdrianK said:
TouchFLO is the UI hero uses, multitouch is what lets you pinch and stretch to zoom.
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Ah
A nice touch no doubt? But by all accounts the Hero ROMs are still too resource hungry for the Magic 32B?
Anyway, i think my inner tinkerer is urging me to flash, so to speak, certainly to Root. I'll see what the advantages are then for myself. Think I'll go for the euro ROM, or nk02's. They seem to be most appropriate for the moment.

AdrianK said:
TouchFLO is the UI hero uses, multitouch is what lets you pinch and stretch to zoom.
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Ah
A nice touch no doubt? But by all accounts the Hero ROMs are still to resource hungry for the Magic 32B?
Anyway, i think my inner tinkerer is urging me to flash, so to speak, certainly to Root. I'll see what the advantages are then for myself. Think I'll go for the euro ROM, or nk02's. They seem to be most appropriate for the moment.

I was in much the same position as you - Vodafone UK handset and not entirely sure what point there was to flashing. In the end I thought I'd give the Euro Rom a try and am very glad I did. The speed is much improved, the keyboard is superior, and the built in Exchange support knocks spots off of Touchdown, being properly integrated with the OS. I'm sure I'll try other roms but can't see many of them adding very much to what I have.

Simple Rom

Hi, i am a person who is not looking for many functions in a ROM, i am wondering if someone could make a ROM which only includes the basic apps such as Contacts, phone, message, calendar, default Launcher,Mail, Gallery, android Music player ,Market,Youtube,Browser,clock, calculator, camera ,HTC lockscreen and this ROM is based on the hero base.
May i know if this is possible? This will run hero as smoothly as possible. Thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479
go to this thread
navigate to the bottom of the 1st post
click link under all other builds can be found here......
download JACHero 2.7.3 SuperLite.zip
remove anything you do not want from the build from the .zip file
(if there is anything you would like to add now is the time to add it to the .zip file)
resign it (if you do not know how to sign it search or pm me)
then put it on your sdcard and flash
this is the easiest way to get a bare-bones version of hero that is fast,simple, and imo one of the main reasons for a hero build, flash 9.

you.... must be kidding... right? JacHero?.... you might as well fill up a rom with fart apps and install it on your g1. He's looking for a basic rom, and, us being sans JF, the best other thing we have is;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
this rom has choices, and choices are always good. You can either download the basic rom (either ADP based or T-Mobile based (go with T-mo's, more space left in data)), or download the full one which has several of the modifications that have been developed in this forum. if you don't wish to have all that enabled by default, you can just download the basic one and use an expansion pack later on if you decide you want a little more.
Seriously, for your sanity, steer clear of any hero roms (unless you're ok with rebooting your phone every 3 hours to get usability back)
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edit, because i just re-read and noticed you do want to run hero.... search the threads and look for haykuro's hero beta 4. It's, by far, the best basic hero rom out there. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING, compares (hero-wise) to how good, fast, and well put-together it is.
Seriously, steer clear of hero roms...

jubeh said:
you.... must be kidding... right? JacHero?.... you might as well fill up a rom with fart apps and install it on your g1. He's looking for a basic rom, and, us being sans JF, the best other thing we have is;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
this rom has choices, and choices are always good. You can either download the basic rom (either ADP based or T-Mobile based (go with T-mo's, more space left in data)), or download the full one which has several of the modifications that have been developed in this forum. if you don't wish to have all that enabled by default, you can just download the basic one and use an expansion pack later on if you decide you want a little more.
Seriously, for your sanity, steer clear of any hero roms (unless you're ok with rebooting your phone every 3 hours to get usability back)
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edit, because i just re-read and noticed you do want to run hero.... search the threads and look for haykuro's hero beta 4. It's, by far, the best basic hero rom out there. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING, compares (hero-wise) to how good, fast, and well put-together it is.
Seriously, steer clear of hero roms...
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actually jachero superlite is very fast..its just like running a stock cupcake. or just a watered down hero
hazeline said:
Hi, i am a person who is not looking for many functions in a ROM, i am wondering if someone could make a ROM which only includes the basic apps such as Contacts, phone, message, calendar, default Launcher,Mail, Gallery, android Music player ,Market,Youtube,Browser,clock, calculator, camera ,HTC lockscreen and this ROM is based on the hero base.
May i know if this is possible? This will run hero as smoothly as possible. Thanks!
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and jacxhero 1.1 in my opinion is the best hero rom so far. its a collab wit with drizzy (known for making the speediest hero roms) jacxhero 1.2 is a bit slower.
just download overclock from the market. and then underclock settins should me max: 385 and min:380
hero roms seems to run better when underclocked to 383mhz
but bluetooth and leds dont work still

brian_v3ntura said:
actually jachero superlite is very fast..its just like running a stock cupcake. or just a watered down hero
and jacxhero 1.1 in my opinion is the best hero rom so far. its a collab wit with drizzy (known for making the speediest hero roms) jacxhero 1.2 is a bit slower.
just download overclock from the market. and then underclock settins should me max: 385 and min:380
hero roms seems to run better when underclocked to 383mhz
but bluetooth and leds dont work still
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my issue with jachero lite is that it's removing everything from hero that makes it hero... you might as well use a smaller rom (80 mb v 40) and download twitter and facebook apps. I've never understood why you'd want to use a hero rom and remove all that makes it hero and then leave behind all the garbage of framework that HTC put there for nothing but two apps. Also, it's beyond me why roms are being made from the second and third releases of hero. They come odexed, which means that the code has been optimized FOR THE HERO. The dream device, though it shares some of the same equipment, is not the same. People should be working off of full jars and apks (haykuro's original hero releases) so that the dalvik vm can create optimized code for the dream, not the hero.
It's not that Jac's rom is fast. Hero is inherently fast. Any and all hero roms you install will originally be that fast. The lag comes from the bad memory leaks of HTC's framework, and there's hardly anything JAC or anybody else can do about it. Its' tolerable in the Hero device because of the higher memory available, and the workaround in the dream is the lousily executed idea of a sawp file. Install haykuro's original release, and you'll see that it's every bit as fast, if not faster, than Jac's releases, that's because the code is optimized for the dream.

I like JACxROM since it is pretty fast and has all your basics

Similar Hero ROMs (32A) - Which to choose?

I'm a little confused.
I have been experimenting with different ROM's for my 32A device, all based on the official HTC Sense release for Magic.
I have tried:
CaSense 1.0
MyHero 2.0.4
HoFo 3.0.5
I've been a long time MyHero user, and i have been very pleased with both performance and functionality. Switched to CaSense to try something new. It works very well too. Since I already wiped, I downloaded the third 32a ROM, this time the Official HoFo Community ROM.
Now I'm lost. In my opinion there are very few differences between the three. Which one should I choose?
I would probably get different answers from the different followers.
Does anybody know advantages/disadvantages of the different ROM's?
Is there an updated comparison chart of the different ROM's exist? (I know there is a 32B comparison chart, but not for 32A, and I don't know if any of there are updated, or even possible to keep updated due to the rapid development of new versions...)
Why are there so many similar ROM's available?
It seems that most (all) developers are working together to find solutions to issues, and most ROM's have the same functionality and faults in them. So why do we have so many options?

I would also like some input on this subject also

Hello all,
I've been lurking on the forum for a while now, and my 32A magic should be on its way now...
Information about different flavours of cooked roms for magic with Sense seems scarse so, to me, if anyone who knows better the differences between them and wants to share, I'd be more than happy to know =)
Cheers,
--to

Yep, I would like to know too!
The wiki for the Magic only list the firmwares. Would be nice to actually have some info on the benefits of the different types.

hello all
I have tried these ROMs except hofo
I think Casense1.0 is better than myhero2.04
but now i'm using CyannogenMod-4.2.2,it's much stabler than all option
you give.
I'm from China .my English is poor. sorry

I'm currently on CaSense 1.1 and find it very stable.
I also tried Magic GyD 2.0.3 and it is also good.
The HoFo ROM only had English and Chinese language installed, and I would like a ROM that supports Norwegian keyboard. So this is not for me.
I will give CyanogenMod 4.2.3.1 a try too, but I am still confused
Most of the ROMs are very similar, and I can not understand what differences excists that can justify all the different versions.
Are the ROM's just personal adjustments made to the developers liking, or do they include something unique?

I am using HoFo and I love it. It is extremly stable with little to no bugs and Hotweiss is very fast fixing any issues.

Using myHero after trying most of the other roms, reglasses seems to do a nice job on his cooks. But i have to admit i didn't care to give CaSense much of a chance cause it seemed like he put something together way to fast with to many issues just to be the first one releasing a rom based on the official TW magic rom with sense UI. Where i appreciate the developer taking his time to do some nice cooking and serve the good and more stable release.

betelgeuse74 said:
Most of the ROMs are very similar, and I can not understand what differences excists that can justify all the different versions.
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From your signature, you have a CaSense 1.1 which you modified yourself. Why did you do it yourself? If you can answer that, then you have the answer to your question above.

Alright, I've sworn by hotweiss' HoFo ROMs for a long while, simply because it was just modified stock and he had the same device and provider as me. It's currently undergoing teething issues with the Sense UI. I would also like to know about the differences between all the Sense UI ROMs - I just don't have the time to load each one and tinker with it long enough to find their individual perks.
Judging by your post, I believe you want the nice flashy Sense UI. Keep in mind that Sense UI does significantly slow your phone down - WAY down. I installed Cyanogen's ROM the other day just to compare the difference. If you can live without flashy UI, go with Cyanogen. It's much faster and snappier, and really, the installation is pretty much a breeze anyways.
Advantages of Sense UI is that it looks pretty. That's pretty much it. Most of it's functionality can be found from other apps on the Market. You got a ****load of Twitter apps, Facebook app for the widget, SyncMyPix to get contact photos, etc etc. That said, I'm sort of addicted to the Sense UI interface right now myself. Oh, one more thing - Sense UI doesn't allow other apps to control the brightness (I believe it's an issue affecting all Sense UI ROMs). It's a pain in the ass, since I used to have my brightness auto adjust based on location and time. If that's something you want...go Cyanogen.
Oh, Cyanogen also has OTA updates. Hotweiss also posts up the link on Twitter. I do not know about the other ROMs though. This means that if you have a nice data plan, you can update your phone anywhere.

SpaceBoy2000 said:
Alright, I've sworn by hotweiss' HoFo ROMs for a long while, simply because it was just modified stock and he had the same device and provider as me. It's currently undergoing teething issues with the Sense UI. I would also like to know about the differences between all the Sense UI ROMs - I just don't have the time to load each one and tinker with it long enough to find their individual perks.
Judging by your post, I believe you want the nice flashy Sense UI. Keep in mind that Sense UI does significantly slow your phone down - WAY down. I installed Cyanogen's ROM the other day just to compare the difference. If you can live without flashy UI, go with Cyanogen. It's much faster and snappier, and really, the installation is pretty much a breeze anyways.
Advantages of Sense UI is that it looks pretty. That's pretty much it. Most of it's functionality can be found from other apps on the Market. You got a ****load of Twitter apps, Facebook app for the widget, SyncMyPix to get contact photos, etc etc. That said, I'm sort of addicted to the Sense UI interface right now myself. Oh, one more thing - Sense UI doesn't allow other apps to control the brightness (I believe it's an issue affecting all Sense UI ROMs). It's a pain in the ass, since I used to have my brightness auto adjust based on location and time. If that's something you want...go Cyanogen.
Oh, Cyanogen also has OTA updates. Hotweiss also posts up the link on Twitter. I do not know about the other ROMs though. This means that if you have a nice data plan, you can update your phone anywhere.
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Abso-freaken-lutely. That bugs the hell out of me.

hcadiz said:
From your signature, you have a CaSense 1.1 which you modified yourself. Why did you do it yourself? If you can answer that, then you have the answer to your question above.
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The modification consists of removing some applications I don't use (Twitter, Plurk, etc) and adding my own ringtones and wallpaper/lockscreen.
I would probably do this to any ROM I choose.
My point is, that it seems irrelevant which ROM I choose, they are basically the same, providing identical features, speed and functionality.

SpaceBoy2000 said:
Alright, I've sworn by hotweiss' HoFo ROMs for a long while, simply because it was just modified stock and he had the same device and provider as me. It's currently undergoing teething issues with the Sense UI. I would also like to know about the differences between all the Sense UI ROMs - I just don't have the time to load each one and tinker with it long enough to find their individual perks.
Judging by your post, I believe you want the nice flashy Sense UI. Keep in mind that Sense UI does significantly slow your phone down - WAY down. I installed Cyanogen's ROM the other day just to compare the difference. If you can live without flashy UI, go with Cyanogen. It's much faster and snappier, and really, the installation is pretty much a breeze anyways.
Advantages of Sense UI is that it looks pretty. That's pretty much it. Most of it's functionality can be found from other apps on the Market. You got a ****load of Twitter apps, Facebook app for the widget, SyncMyPix to get contact photos, etc etc. That said, I'm sort of addicted to the Sense UI interface right now myself. Oh, one more thing - Sense UI doesn't allow other apps to control the brightness (I believe it's an issue affecting all Sense UI ROMs). It's a pain in the ass, since I used to have my brightness auto adjust based on location and time. If that's something you want...go Cyanogen.
Oh, Cyanogen also has OTA updates. Hotweiss also posts up the link on Twitter. I do not know about the other ROMs though. This means that if you have a nice data plan, you can update your phone anywhere.
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I am very fond of the Sense UI. If I wasn't, I would give Cyanogen a try.
I don't use Twitter, Facebook or Plurk, and I usually remove the applications from the ROM.
And I have always thought the UI was snappy enough for me, so speed is not an issue.
I do not require a frequently updated ROM, but it is nice if issues are fixed as soon as possible. But since many (all) Hero ROM's have the same issues, I just thought the community would benefit from a joint effort of the developers to fix those, instead of the minor tweaking jobs they do now.
(No disrespect to the developers intended. I really appreciate the effort. I just want you to go in a different direction )

Moving to Android from NRGZ28 WM6.5 ROM's

I'm slowly but surely falling for the siren song of Android on my HD2. However, I'm kind of spoiled by the NRGZ28 ROM's with all that CHT 2.0 and sencity goodness. I've tried out some of the SD-card Android ROM's (courtesy NRG's easy as pie launcher) but I find myself missing some of the functionality I've become so used to on WM6.5. The home screen. The weather apps. Other stuff. Taken each by themselves it doesn't seem like much, but taken all together and -- incredibly -- I start missing WM6.5.
Can someone advise me (and others) who really enjoy the super nice NRG ROM's with all their slick UI's what's the best Android ROM to start playing with? WM6.5 looks very nice with Sense, but the same Sense on Android looks pretty plain. The Android marketplace shows the WM marketplace for the joke it is, but I just can't get over missing some of the cool features in Sense.
Any advice or suggestions are completely welcome.
Thank you!

yeaandrandroid ruined my touchscreen. There are many builds ,most are rushed. none polished. be warned

I'd flash a Desire HD build. They are the probably the best thing android can offer IMO. Look for Mdeejays Froyo HD 4.6 it's what I use and it has been alright for me.
NRG energy roms are beast and probably is the only bright light of WM on our device.. still dont know why people are so quick to throw WM down when i feel like I'm running two different phones when im on WM (WM being the superior device)
Android just doesnt feel as swift as WM does with an energy rom.
Must give you a heads up.. MMS on android is a pain in the butt and there are several upon several threads with so many apn's.. i just switch to WM to handle that because its as easy as breathing.

i dont know whats missing
I have no idea what is missing in Android sense that winmo has. Android has the weather, clock, album, music, mail, internet is fast but not as fast as opera but atleast it supports full flash. Well I was never a hardcore fan of winmo so maybe my opinion is biased and I might be forgetting something as I haven't used winmo in 4 months or so.

prisoner881 said:
I'm slowly but surely falling for the siren song of Android on my HD2. However, I'm kind of spoiled by the NRGZ28 ROM's with all that CHT 2.0 and sencity goodness. I've tried out some of the SD-card Android ROM's (courtesy NRG's easy as pie launcher) but I find myself missing some of the functionality I've become so used to on WM6.5. The home screen. The weather apps. Other stuff. Taken each by themselves it doesn't seem like much, but taken all together and -- incredibly -- I start missing WM6.5.
Can someone advise me (and others) who really enjoy the super nice NRG ROM's with all their slick UI's what's the best Android ROM to start playing with? WM6.5 looks very nice with Sense, but the same Sense on Android looks pretty plain. The Android marketplace shows the WM marketplace for the joke it is, but I just can't get over missing some of the cool features in Sense.
Any advice or suggestions are completely welcome.
Thank you!
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If you still like winmo, then why not keep it? You can have winmo and android on your phone. I'm playing around with nand android right now, but I plan on going back to winmo and running android off sd... the way I see it, nand doesn't improve android enough to want to get rid of the ability to run multiple os's on it. That's what makes the HD2 special... If I wanted a phone that just ran android off nand and that's it, I would've gotten a native android phone. But to each his own... we have lot's of choices with the HD2.

Just caught your post as I was pondering a move to Android. I have also been running NRG's CHT for a while and been very happy.
Decided to go ahead anyway, flashed the Desire ROM, and it's interesting. Some things are familiar, other things are not. Android seems to be working a bit differently than WM, in that there isn't a 'close' button, and I don't like having to puch the key to get back to my home screen every time, but there's probably an app for that.
On the whole, I can see how 'Droid is a boon for those new to more sophisticated smart phones, but for those of us who have been running WM for a while, there don't seem to be any surprises as we've already been spoiled by having this sort of functionality.
The real reason I'm strongly considering moving to Android is that Microsoft has pretty much left us at a dead end. I had a considerable investment in software for WM 6.x but knowing in advance that WM7 was going to leave me out in the cold, my last software purchases have been from developers who have apps in both platforms, such as CoPilot and PocketInformant.
Anyway, all I can suggest is to use a good backup program like Sprite or SPB backup, archive your Energy ROM and give Android a shot. The worst that can happen is you flash back. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

zarathustrax said:
If you still like winmo, then why not keep it? You can have winmo and android on your phone. I'm playing around with nand android right now, but I plan on going back to winmo and running android off sd... the way I see it, nand doesn't improve android enough to want to get rid of the ability to run multiple os's on it. That's what makes the HD2 special... If I wanted a phone that just ran android off nand and that's it, I would've gotten a native android phone. But to each his own... we have lot's of choices with the HD2.
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The main reason I'm looking to move to Android is the availability of apps. The WM Marketplace was a total joke before WP7 came out and killed WM6.5. Now nobody in their right mind is going to spend any time developing anything cool for WM6.5. All the new apps are either iPhone or Android.
I figure in a year, maybe less, there'll be no worthwhile apps for WM6.5 at all (not that there are many now). I'd rather eat dirt than have an iPhone, so the sooner I get on the Android bandwagon the more familiar I'll be with it when it fully hits its stride.

Hi Prisoner881, I just wanted to say that I felt exactly like you mate. I'd trawl xda every day or 2 to see how the Andriod NAND build was coming along (never wanted to do the SD Card Android - too much mither for me). I was getting really miffed with the Marketplace - very few new apps and expensive too.
So 3 days ago I decided to take the plunge. My phone is with Vodafone and I had the 1.66 ROM on it.
So I followed mskips instructions to install Android (using Cortulla's Desire build) and it took about 30 minutes in total to do everything without a glitch. I got to say man, I'm blown away with it. Once you get used to the differences, I haven't even thought about Winmo. There are so many quality free apps, it's just stunning.
One thing to bear in mind is, if you have an EU HD2, you don't have much memory left to install stuff (about 120MB). You can get around this by Rooting the Andriod phone (really easy) then installing Move2SD (free from the Market). Then most apps you download will go directly to the SD card and if they don't it is easy to move them.
I've installed roughly 50 apps so far, still got over 30mb free on my phone.
There is also another chef creating a NAND build based on Cortulla's which is trimmed down (removing some of the crap that I'll never use). This should give a lot more space when it's fully ready
I'd go for it dude as I can't put the damned phone down now (even my iPhone obsessed missus is jealously looking on )

well a year has passed on this thread and having been a long time NRG WM6.5 Rom user with CHT2 customisation and all the right apps to make the device perfect, i have just picked up a couple of Sensation XE handsets to replace our HD2's.
Whilst the Android Marketplace has a huge amount of apps, some apps just arent available for WM6.5 and offer some degree of incentive to make the switch.
I have toyed around with SD Android builds but none were compelling enough to be more than eye candy and interesting alternative OS for my HD2s.
The primary functions i had running on my HD2 were shared calendars with Outlook allowing my wife and i to see family schedules.(using Nuevasync which is an excellent service) and push email via the Carriers branded Sevenmail app.
Since receiving my Sensation XE the UI is slick and im working towards finding practical solutions to replacing my WM6.5 apps.
However the biggest initial hurdle is the lack of Outlook contacts sync. I am trying the HTC Sync application but its too early to tell whether this will be suffient or not.
How have other NRG rom users managed their migration to the Android platform?

In my humble opinion, sense is pointless on Android. In WM we *needed* lots of overlays and tweaks just to make the OS usuable (have you ever turned sense off in WM? Its terrible!), but in Android we don't need all this. We can install an alternative launcher if we want, or keep it stock with it still looking good.
As for moving to Android, that was simply 'keeping with the times' and 'because I could'
Anyway, I wouldn't recommend installing a sense ROM because Android doesn't need it, its a resource hog, its not as pretty as the WM version, and if you're using an EU handset it takes up too much space. Of course you may fall in love with it, this is just my experience.
I ended up trying CyanogenMod after bidding farewell to sense, and loved all the extra functionality. However I found it just wasn't 'pretty' enough.
So along came MIUI, who swiftly gave me all the answers. It's got nice eye-candy (with built in theme manager and HUNDREDS of themes to choose from, some even sense like), fast, customisable, weekly updates, and has some cool features (set the music app to turn off after a few hours so it can lull you to sleep, built-in data managing on a per-app, per-connection and global basis, lock editing the phone/viewing call logs to show people the phone, auto-arrange items on home screen, literally too much to mention)
To summarise - it's all about your preference, but don't think sense is the only way to go.

I recently also did the swap from the Energy WM ROM to the Energy Android NAND ROM and for now I must say that I love the Android.
The connectivity to Windows PC & sync was almost perfect before with WM ROM but there have also been many problems & issues.
If you can live with the camcorder resolution issue on the Android ROM then the only thing you have to decide is with which bootloader to go.
I first went with the MAGLDR but then realized the missing battery loading function when phone is off. So I went with cLK (which has the data dropping thing, which they will hopefully be able to change away from PPP connection).
But anyhow, I should have done the switch to the NRG Android ROM much earlier as this system is so much faster, stable and the community with apps and infos is just blowing.
Many thanks goes to the chief NRG for his time & work.

[Q] Help with the how to please

Hi guys,
So I posted something up earlier this week asking on how to upgrade and not lose all my personal stuff. Well I think I'm ready as far as not losing the personal stuff. But I'm still confused on the upgrading.
I installed Android on my HD2 myself a while back ago and lately have thought about upgrading to the latest software.
I have read the threads, but I still find myself confused. Still don't Know what "Sense" is or the latest working software is. Do I need to get another radio rom? So on and so forth. As a side note, since I've installed Android on my phone, it has been working fine. I'd like to keep that going if and when I upgrade.
I used a nand rom from Dark Forces Team on a T-Mobile US phone.
Is it worth upgrading? I'm assuming the latest software has swipe keyboard, which I think is really cool.
Just hoping someone can hold my hand and guide me.
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong section, but I think I'm right.
Thanks in advance...again!

You should perform a backup with Titanium Backup, to backup all your settings and apps. The upgrade process might differ from different builds, but they should all involve porting over data.img in your current build. As for the new builds, it really depends on what version you are using. If its far outdated, you should consider updating as many issues and bugs would have been fixed. Most of the NAND builds now sport Android 2.3.5, CM7, Sense 2.3 or Sense 3.5. You should check out the various NAND builds here and flash one that you like (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928) Sense or HTC Sense is HTC's own UI on top of Android. Its like those third party launchers like LP,ADW,Go Launcher, but of course, Sense is an official and fully integrated UI, so its like a skin over the whole Android OS. Im sure you know what im talking about by now.Sense 2.3 is the UI that was on all the HTC devices before the HTC Sensation and EVO 3d came out. Sense 3.5 adds many goodies like a new lockscreen, widgets, home screen transitions and animations. The baseline, however, is that i recommend you try the different NAND build types mentioned above so that you get the whole picture.

Tell you the truth, I'm still kind of lost. I went to the link. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming every post has a rom that I can potentially use? I am also not familiar with the terminology yet.
"...CM7,Sense or HTC Sense is HTC's own UI on top of Android. Its like those third party launchers like LP,ADW,Go Launcher..."

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So the same way I went about installing Android, is the same way I go about updating. It's not just a simple file that quickly integrates with what's already installed?

JMnaCon said:
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So the same way I went about installing Android, is the same way I go about updating. It's not just a simple file that quickly integrates with what's already installed?
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This thread may help you to get an idea about new methods. The thread from senior member T-Macgnolia helped me lot when I flash my HD2 first time last week.
Here is the link,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
Hope this helps you.