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With the official 2.2 release due out very soon...
Who else is pissed off a little that Samsung are still behind the ball even after having access to the genius works on XDA?
The latest FroYo is not looking amazingly remarkable, they had a slow start releasing a very flawed 2.1 when boxed when first shipped out, just to beat the evo/iphone4 market.
In australia samsung without reason gave $50 cheques to the first 1000 people to send them their IMIE, nobody is sure why, maybe because they have let us down?
Since I got my device the score is XDA 7 - SAMSUNG 0
Seriously considering the new desire hd..
For XDA to come up with more help/answers/fixes than the company that made the device, it really is poor form.
I know it is a good hardware device, but this thread is a straight up punch back in the nose to Samsung for not making the effort in hiring several people on XDA who have helped us more than Samdung have.
They have had enough time, in three weeks if samsung have not put an offical lagfix/or acknowledge it formally, put out a 2.2 that works very well, or GPS fix for EVERYONES devices. Then this thread will grow and grow with unhappy people who bought this phone.
Rant over.
not everyone is having laf even after 100+ applications installed.
not everyone is having gps issues either.
kind of hard to do debugging then.
dan 6a said:
In australia samsung without reason gave $50 cheques to the first 1000 people to send them their IMIE, nobody is sure why, maybe because they have let us down?
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Maybe to encourage sales and generate word of mouth? That's standard product promotion right there.
I knew prior to buying the Galaxy S that Samsung is never the best with firmware updates and have broken promises for the Galaxy regarding a 2.1 update, that said I bought it knowing the good folks here would be of assistance and keep us up to date for a while.
I didn't have a single problem with my phone - untill I started flashing. Now apps force close from time to time and I have lag issues... I kinda regret moving away from original firmware, since it was working perfectly. But that's life.
Regards
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They have had enough time, in three weeks if samsung have not put an offical lagfix/or acknowledge it formally, put out a 2.2 that works very well, or GPS fix for EVERYONES devices. Then this thread will grow and grow with unhappy people who bought this phone.
Rant over.
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tbh, its common knowledge that samsung is slow in providing updates and fixing stuff.
it is also common knowledge that here on XDA there are a lot of people who create fixes/software etc for all kind of phones, samsung galaxy S ofc included..so it is not that weird that the "XDA-Community" is way ahead of Samsung
last point: unhappy people on XDA are not a big factor for Samsung to cry for almost a million people bought the Galaxy S which makes it a very successfull sale for Samsung and i guess the majority of the people who bought this phone never bumped into the problems we notice/discover or even know of existance of such software as Froyo or Gingerbread and don't moan about it even when its released
to sum it up.
GIEF FROYO xD
i got 410+ apps installed no lag, no lag fix, still stock
in regards to Froyo, even HTC Desire didn't get their Froyo officially until this week, all the previous Froyo they were running were Alpha/Beta versions.
so we are no better or worse when compared to other devices with the same spec
im not miffed, i bought the phone with eclair, froyo is a bonus! my phone works and does what i bought it for, maybe im easy to please
waz000000 said:
im not miffed, i bought the phone with eclair, froyo is a bonus! my phone works and does what i bought it for, maybe im easy to please
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Getting Flash support should be a given. Voice Actions and PC-to-Phone is bonus. Also I really hope they fix the lag and gps, those two things are so bad that I cannot recommend the phone to others.
the i9000 is my last device from samsung, never again Ill buy something from them...
Its October and WHERE TO HELL IS FROYO...
Samsung sucks a lot.
I don't it is such a big problem that Froyo is not out.
I am very content with JM8 and the Froyo betas I tried weren't such an amazing improvement...
Seriously? another one of these threads?
did you not see the one already posted about someone annoyed about the SGS? Yes it has issues but NOTHING is perfect, a little background homework on your part would have saved you this rant thread, but i get where you are coming from, Sammy is playing by threads here but is there anything you can do apart from not buying their stuff, but really you are because they create components and insert them in various products which aren't theirs, so when you buy a different brand they are bound to have one little part manufactured from Sammy.
And it's the FIRST of October, be patient!
We've all established that the SGS has its flaws as well as the company, now can we please just move on and try to get these issues fixed instead of *****ing about them 24/7.
Bunch of trolls....Dont let the door hit you on your way out!
SGS is the best phone on the market...hands down! The N900 and iphone 4 are a close second! But both those phones have issues (too thick and too restricted).
we need a new "Rant" section in the forum, then we can move all these pointless topics there
You are right, froyo is not top of the world but my sgs cant navigate it looses even outdoor by walking the signal...
What is the best froyo rom at the moment for the galaxy?
none really, the last 3 froyo has been devastating, it either kills your IMEI or kills your internal SD
take your pick
LOL
No special need for froyo, a true techy doens't need the "improvements" of the froyo "update"
Sure, using froyo myself; but feels pretty much the same as my lagfixed stock rom.
Can't wait? there are plenty of roms available but you could have known that smasung always give up on their models support within a half year =/
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none really, the last 3 froyo has been devastating, it either kills your IMEI or kills your internal SD
take your pick
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Kills sd? The only thing I've heard that kills the sd is users not installing lag fixes correctly.
I am extremely happy with the phone (JM8 + voodoo) that I really don't feel the urge to upgrade to Froyo.
I will do that only when Froyo matures and reaches the polish level of JM8. And that is not going to happen anywhere soon, even if the release an official version.
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Its October and WHERE TO HELL IS FROYO...
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Chill !
The Samsung Representatives in Romania said that the official Froyo update will be released somewhere around 15 October, so have a little more patience.
To be honest I think the whole 2.2 thing is probably overrated.
I can understand why Desire users wanted it as they could not move apps to the external card without rooting. Also they couldn't use the phone as a wireless router.
Even when 2.2 is released we will still be left with a phone. 2.2 is not going to change our lives. It might add a couple of nice touches to things here and there, but we will still visit roughly the same websites (flash might be nice), phone the same people etc
I'll install it when it comes, but I can't see that it is going to make a massive difference to how I use the phone
I had to wait for the HTC Hero update to 2.1, thats what a wait is
Are you seriously ripping on Samsung? Learn to be patient young one. Good things come to those who wait. The Samsung Galaxy S I9000 is the best phone I have ever had. Froyo will come out sooner or later.
Samsung is the biggest semiconductor maker in the world...no matter what you buy, it was samsung parts inside!
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the i9000 is my last device from samsung, never again Ill buy something from them...
Its October and WHERE TO HELL IS FROYO...
Samsung sucks a lot.
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good for you, actually why don't u just trade it in now
we need a mod who will ban this annoying trolls
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+1 to that.
enigmameusa said:
To be honest I think the whole 2.2 thing is probably overrated.
I can understand why Desire users wanted it as they could not move apps to the external card without rooting. Also they couldn't use the phone as a wireless router.
Even when 2.2 is released we will still be left with a phone. 2.2 is not going to change our lives. It might add a couple of nice touches to things here and there, but we will still visit roughly the same websites (flash might be nice), phone the same people etc
I'll install it when it comes, but I can't see that it is going to make a massive difference to how I use the phone
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One of the most sensible posts i've read on here TBH.
lol you got crazy ? i'm happy with running jm1 and i dont really care about froyo, what u need so much in froyo ????
Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]
By no means is it dead.
Dragons lie still in deathlike slumber until awakened to unleash their powerful presence upon the world of mortals yet again...aka no the slide isn't dead . Development has slowed a bit but that's mainly because there are a few key ROMs out that are being focused on. I'd rather have a selection of 3 or 4 good ROMs than dozens of crappy ones wouldn't you?
Edit: You might also want to change the title to "Is the myTouch Slide dead?" so people don't come here expecting to flame and mods don't move it without reading.
yea true...it is better to have few good roms than many bad....but it is even getting difficult to find few good roms, the only good one i have found is cyanogenmod. I will try ararays once it comes out.i hope it is great.
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Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]
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The MTS is pretty much dead outside of CM6 development, T-Mobile pretty much abandoned their Espresso 2.2 plans and not a whole lot of people purchased the Slide. Most who did traded it away for the HD2 or Vibrant.
What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!
Dude you got a good point there,I would also want to thank the devs for there hard work as well.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.
lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!
Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.
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The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
It can't be dead if roms are still being developed on it.
daniel, arayray, joker, others (you know who you are).....
are doing the same thing as other devs are doing on other phones.
And it's definitely much more alive than it was a couple months ago.
Froyo/Sense hybrid + some cool features...... = definitely not dead.
A big thanks to the devs/modders.
Until CM other Modders/Devs dont produce any roms then its dead. How would you consider this phone dead when you have CM support and a nightly everyday or so. This phone isnt dead
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
The development for the Slide is much much slower yes, and I am definitely not a fan of the lack of kernel development for this phone. Most of the sense roms look and feel the same, in my opinion. None of the froyo sense ports work too well, most of them either kb lights or wifi is broken. The eclair ports are pretty good, but I still prefer cr_mod. Cm6 is fairly active, but honestly, it's kind of a boring ROM. It's great and fast, but when I had my g1 I loved more the ROMs that were cm roms, plus awesome theming and the devs own twists and performance tweaks. Why don't we have more of that? We have some themed cm6 roms from miguel and one other I am blanking out on, but they are based off of nightlies, most from october or earlier, before many issues were fixed or improvements made.
Honestly, it'd be cooler to have more than just cyanogenmod and sense roms, which is why I'm excited for arayraymod, but where I'd really like to see a development boost is in the kernel area. I'm stable to 844mhz, pretty good. But our kernel from dumfuq lacks things like the brainfuck scheduler, I think it's called at least, and of course, smartass cpu governor. If we see anything I would like to see smartass incorporated. At least an undervolt?
I know, I'm digressing, this isn't a request thread by any means. The Slide isn't dead I don't think but sometimes I can't help but compare our forums to pretty much any other android phone and see how our development is depressingly slow. At least it isn't totally dead yet. If that tmo froyo ota really does come out then it may give a needed boost, hopefully at least.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-slide/203166-i-got-2-2-t-mo-thread.html
The thread starts off as your typical useless thread, but the more you read, the more possible it is that Froyo will be released. There are some independent accounts of what HTC and/or T-Mo said, but I'll say this now: if it doesn't come out by the end of December then it aint ever coming out.
I still think my previous statements about the Slide being heavily delayed and otherwise a failure (to T-Mo), are true. We'll see if T-Mo wants to hold up their end of the bargain on Froyo, however.
I think I'm up for a full upgrade in the next couple months. Come March, I'm planning on selling the Slide and getting something more top-of-the-line. I originally went with this phone because of the keyboard, but after having Swype and SwiftKey for a while, there's just no need. We got my wife a 4G yesterday and it's pretty sexy.
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What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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A .32+ kernel would be nice as well.
ksubedi said:
thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!
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Flash: You are using the Flash Lite plugin that came with stock Espresso, most likely, as Flash 10.1 with hardware acceleration requires an ARMv7 processor where the Slide possesses an ARMv6.
Bootanimation: Change the speed in desc.txt.
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lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!
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The original Espresso leak was leaked in 2009.
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Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.
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Well, Motorola had already done the majority of the work involved in porting 2.1 to the Cliq before T-Mobile started dropping high-end phones. It would've be cost ineffective of them to just drop the project all together. I will bet you almost anything that the Cliq will not receive an official 2.2 OTA (even though there are some alpha unofficial ports).
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I'll believe it when I see it. I love T-Mobile, but they are absolutely horrible at sending out major OTA updates in a timely manner.
Cliq: Almost a year
Slide: Nope
G2: N/A
Mytouch 4G: N/A
Mytouch 3G: Over a year
G1: Nope
Vibrant: Nope (the latest leak is probably the final build, though)
Mytouch 3G 3mm/Fender: Nope (last I heard, at least)
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Agreed.
I'm not trying to dash anyones hopes here, CM development activity was probably continue until it cannot without a newer kernel to base on, but the MTS community is small and is getting smaller. It has been an amazing trip, and I think we can all say we have met some awesome people here, but the Slide was essentially dead-on-arrival.
Two things, CM development is still going strong. He said he's got the .32 kernel booting just not with wifi (or wifi calling not sure which) so that's not really an issue at the moment and it should show up pretty soon. Also the MT3G fender has a 2.2 update, or at least a version. I helped someone with one put froyo on it so it might just be a bit of a tweaked port but I think it's official. He wasn't rooted and he didnt get a signature issue so thats what I'm basing my guess on.
When I first got this phone I was happy initially but wasn't all that satisfied with its bugs, lag and wack GPS. I don't know exactly what bugs you may have encountered but mine on 2.1 went as follows
- Some live wallpapers caused my phone to crash and reboot if I tried to set it. One of them (Pano-planet) always forced closed on me
- I couldn't play Fruit Ninja's and Flick Kick Field Goal because half the time I tried to, it would crash my phone.
- Ever since the update to make the google maps have that 3d came out, every single time I launched the app it would crash my phone.
- Lag, Lag and more lag
- My gallery app when launched always crashed on me
- When on the phone and I'd get another call on the other line, my screen would stay black for like 5-7 sec before it showed me who was trying to call me
- Battery life sucked.
Despite all of these issues, I got used to them and patiently waited for the Froyo update. Finally it came out and from what I've read, its a total mixed bag. A lot of people on hear said it wasn't worth it. So I personally was disappointed and didnt want to get the official update, afraid it may make my phone worse. Until I found out about custom roms. I'm a total noob but did research on custom roms and long story short flashed my phone to the Bionix-V by teamwhiskey. I should've done this a loooooooooooooong time ago. Not only is every bug that I mentioned fixed, but something that I thought was a hardware issue apparently isn't. The GPS on my phone is the best its ever been since I got the Vibrant. And the battery life on this phone is beautiful.
For the first time since I've had the phone, it functions and runs the way I expected it to run when I got it. I was thinking about getting another phone that I thought would be supported better but changed my mind cuz my work runs so well now. It functions so well, that I'm afraid to try out other roms because I don't want to mess up things. Which brings me to my next point.....SAMSUNG!! Its soooooooooooo sad that they have a line of phones that are capable of running so well get backed up/supported or lack thereof with TERRIBLE software. Thats like Sony backing and putting ps2 like quality games out on the ps3....makes no sense.
Anyway for those of you who are still running 2.1 software and are on the fence about which way to go (official or custom), take it from a noob like myself, who a week ago didn't know nothing about flashing a phone and custom this and that. FLASH FLASH FLASH....SCREW THE OFFICIAL UPDATE. ONCE YOU FLASH YOU WON'T GO BACK.
same here, once I got fed up with the waiting and the bugs, I rooted, then eventually popped a custom ROM on my phone and it has been great seeing how well the phone can work with proper software
I love the developers here. It's amazing what they can do, especially considering samsung doesn't really seem to care.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Dont u just love the porn on super amoled screen? Isnt it like their right there?!?
Jk
Yeah its a great phone
It really is a great phone once the right software is pushing it.
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Thanks again xriderx66, your review on the roms helped a great deal
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This is a great phone and when the Vibrant 4G comes out we will be able to kite off what we need from them to make this phone even better
I just switched from an at&t x10 to the vibrant. Couldn't be more happier, i'm in love with this device!
Was hesitant to root for a while. Had a rooted G1 and loved it but I figured I would just let this one pan out. The T-Mobile OTA bricked my phone... So after learning how to use ODIN I decided to root it and see what I could get going on this and wow what a difference it has been. Still on Nero V3 and my phone runs smooth as butter. Amazing development community around here.
i'm new to this phone and someone recomend me to buy it. this rly is a surprise for me all this android stuff and the devs here are rly cool. i love my vibrant phone, won't change it even for an apple 4.
Ever since upgrading to stock 2.2 this phone has been the epitome of unreliable. It's like a pretty bad winmo phone running an android skin. Have to soft reset it (hole power down) like 5 times a day because the screen doesn't turn on. Pretty bad because you can think the phone is fine when you're really missing phone calls emails and notifications. Have tried factory reset switch batteries etc. Nothing works. It worked fine before the update but right now this phone is utterly unreliable and robust is not a term to describe it...
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Dont u just love the porn on super amoled screen? Isnt it like their right there?!?
Jk
Yeah its a great phone
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LOL yes it's great to have Adobe Flash 10.1 too! xD xD xD
N8ter said:
Ever since upgrading to stock 2.2 this phone has been the epitome of unreliable. It's like a pretty bad winmo phone running an android skin. Have to soft reset it (hole power down) like 5 times a day because the screen doesn't turn on. Pretty bad because you can think the phone is fine when you're really missing phone calls emails and notifications. Have tried factory reset switch batteries etc. Nothing works. It worked fine before the update but right now this phone is utterly unreliable and robust is not a term to describe it...
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This is true. When the 2.2 official update came out I reverted back to stock so that I could update and see how well Samsung did. When I did, I saw the horrible ****tiness everywhere... slow and unstable... only had it running for 10 minutes before I just went back to custom software
It surprises me how Samsung ****ed up the official Froyo update when all the leaks we've been getting for our ROMs have been stable and acceptably fast.
Right now I'm using Bionix-v 1.2 and Dragon kernel 3.2 (a well optimized Voodoo-supported kernel that allows a maximum overclock of 1.4 Ghz and many more improvements!!)
im using bionix-v 1.2 by team whiskey myself and can't wait for stable froyo 2.2.1. im especially excited for voodoo sound that will bring our phones the highest quality sound output through headphones (thanks supercurio) and will soon be available to us without sacrificing battery life. i truly appreciate all the efforts devs here put into all these things.
anyone who hasn't been around here for long, please think twice before asking questions in dev threads.. i started flashing just about a month ago, flashed a number of kernels, roms, modems, custom frameworks, etc., and never had to ask a single question and never had any troubles just by researching, reading op and following instructions prior to flashing anything to get a sense of whatever i was doing. i understand a noob doesn't mean to be a noob. but seriously if you try, you can avoid getting problems unless there really is a bug. good questions encourage devs for sure, but a majority of noob questions don't and make serious devs leave us. i just really hope the devs who are working day and night trying to bring us good stuff without any rewards stick around and continue to produce quality creations as we've seen so far as long as my vibrant is still working and usable.. im so thankful.
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This is true. When the 2.2 official update came out I reverted back to stock so that I could update and see how well Samsung did. When I did, I saw the horrible ****tiness everywhere... slow and unstable... only had it running for 10 minutes before I just went back to custom software
It surprises me how Samsung ****ed up the official Froyo update when all the leaks we've been getting for our ROMs have been stable and acceptably fast.
Right now I'm using Bionix-v 1.2 and Dragon kernel 3.2 (a well optimized Voodoo-supported kernel that allows a maximum overclock of 1.4 Ghz and many more improvements!!)
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Honestly it didn't surprise me one bit. Samsung probably made an exceptionally buggy release on purpose, part of their way of trying to shut people up and convince us that they weren't ready. I gave up on samsung support a long time ago and probably wont get another phone until the N2 comes out (I'm through with manufacturer support).
I switched to custom roms after 1 month of having this phone and i have to say i absolutely love it. I personally favor Master's roms. But all in all the devs here are absolutely amazing. They allow this phone to reach its potential in ways samsung never did. I'm excited to see what comes out of Eugene's source kernel.
Thank god for all the devs who do all this stuff for free.
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Honestly it didn't surprise me one bit. Samsung probably made an exceptionally buggy release on purpose, part of their way of trying to shut people up and convince us that they weren't ready.
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Samsung software engineers dont know what they are doing. Period.
it is a good phone...the Bionix upgrade definitely made my phone run better but it gives me some slight problems on the vibrant that i have to work out
I had a Behold 2 and upgraded to the vibrant a month ago. I told my sister she have 10 minutes to play with the stock rom before I dismantle the POS rom and rooted it. 10 MINUTES guys!! that's how long the stock rom lived on my phone. i never even consider running stock.. currently running Eugene froyo 2.2 final r2 build with gingerbread theme.
I had a battery life hiccup for a bit. The A2SD caused the sd card mount to get hot and burns battery life. So i took all apps off SD and into internal storage and i'm now back to 24+ hours battery life.
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Was hesitant to root for a while. Had a rooted G1 and loved it but I figured I would just let this one pan out.
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It's funny because I said the same thing when I came from G1. "This time i'm gonna wait before I root". I ended up rooting it 3 hours later. Lol.
And yes as much as we ***** and complain about this phone, it's still a wonderful device. It's still 2nd best in terms of raw CPU/GPU power, with the best now being dual core tegras.
These days, I'm seeing lots of supposed teams tossing zillions of ROMs that are no real improvement. I think I have tried 1 out 2 and I stopped the flashing game after I realized they are almost the same dog with a different collar.
Am I the only one? Is our Vibrant a stalled device in terms of REAL development? Come on, boys, less theming and more real improving!!
You're kidding, right?
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I'm not kidding. Can you name a ROM that is not CM7 that is making real improvements like proper GPS with sensors and no path-sliding in Gingerbread, improved battery, no problems entering deep sleep and being fast?
Any ROM GB ROM that doesn't not suck, lasting less than 15 hours with moderate use?
You wanna go beg samsung to release source? Wait. Dont. By the way you type, you seem like a genius that can build us a source!
JMN... everyone jumped ship and started working on Gingerbread... without anything specific for our phone. I guess you could say we are stalled in that regard. Nobody wants 2.2.... and the 2.3.+ roms are missing a lot of the key things needed for what you seek. It is what it is.
Go pester T-Mobile and Samsung, not XDA/community/developers.
I do.
If it were as easy as you make it seem, I am sure our Vibrant would have a 100% working CM7 right now. Problem is, it isn't. We don't have any source code for Gingerbread, our GPS is from a half-baked file for the Galaxy S 4G, and Samsung decided to use several proprietary loops inside their source code that make the code counter-intuitive. As a result, our developers basically have to reverse engineer a good portion of the code itself.
Or you are more than welcome to start working on it yourself. Seems as up until JVQ dropped on I9000 I was the only one actually doing anything (with of course a couple other good people dropping in from time to time). From April until now we went from a build that was barely usable for more than a couple hours to builds that are definite daily drivers. Granted there are still some flaws but with less than a handful of people do any real developing on what free time we do have and for no incentive other than the thank you button and occasional donation I'd say we're doing pretty damn good.
In the words of someone famous you're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem. Which are you going be?
EDIT: My statement above is putting CM7/MIUI aside, different animal/problems/features/pluses/minuses.
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I dunno man, I found a ROM that does everything that you listed. What you're asking is a lot of development time for marginal improvements.
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So what do you gotta say now bro?
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its not that easy to build a rom thats so great people build on xda some can be slightly better than others but hey thats why u get updates, if ur looking for good battery life on gb use an i9000 port like simplyhoney and u wont be mad about the battery life on the other hand i use cm7 and have been on it ever since nightlies started being released i will tell u it came a long way from no gps and battery drain to a half working gps which is still functional to decent battery life and i am grateful for all the hard work but into it
Funny seems like JMN went silent!
I think he got served!
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Biting the hands that feed... smh
OK, OK.
Please, forgive me for my anger being unleashed. Maybe it was that I see newer devices having a plethora of updates and improvements, or maybe because with my previous device (HTC Polaris running Windows Mobile 6) there was a man (XDA member know as DZO) that reverse engineered it, driver by driver to make a fully fledged Android device.
I ask you for your understanding, and hope you pardon me. You're right: the real problem here is that T-Mobile and Samsung abandoned the Vibrant to its own luck.
Lots of devs jumped ships because of that. I don't make them guilty about this situation, although I did in my first post. Sorry about that.
I'm a dev myself, but not so low level. I cannot compile drivers or reverse engineer. Otherwise, I would really like to collaborate with Atinm and the others.
Please, don't abandon or blame the Vibrant and other Galaxy S devices and try to squeeze all the juice out of it. If we all switch to the latest device, manufacturers will always laugh at us selling slightly different hardware, not upgrades for our totally capable devices.
Nothing more to add. Sorry for my rough and disrespectful words I wrote before. Long live XDA-Devs.
My fellows, I went to the T-Mobile USA facebook site (http://www.facebook.com/TMobile) and published this on their wall:
"SHAME ON YOU, T-MOBILE! Where is Gingerbread for the T-Mobile VIBRANT???? Do you ever care about your users? Do you think we will eat every phone you release with no questions and wishing NO SUPPORT? We do buy devices with future in mind. A ONE-year-device has been ditched away because you are too busy selling the so called 4G version. Too obvious you're playing with us, playing the "buy me and forget me" game. Sorry, but never again to you, T-Mobile, or whatever you will be called after the merger."
I hope you could support me or write comments criticizing the way T-Mobile is acting upon us.
Thanks.
I just re-posted your message on T-Mobiles Facebook site. Not too sure where yours went. Maybe they deleted it.
Thanks a lot, dude. They have the site configured so you cannot see the posts that users write on the wall until you explicitly reveal them using the "Most recent" option (link http://www.facebook.com/TMobile?sk=wall&filter=1). It's there, I think. We need to cry out loud.
I absolutely approve of telling T-Mobile we are tired of waiting.....
Gingerbread = Security.
I posted this on their facebook, all we can do is hope one day they get the point.
"T-mobile, you have a very loyal customer base that bought one of 2010's best smartphones, the Samsung Vibrant. However, with the release of the Samsung Vibrant 4g, we have been left in the dark and seemingly ignored regarding security updates and notifications, specifically the gingerbread 2.3 update. We buy devices with the future in mind, and expect to have full support for the devices we spend our hard earned money on. We know that Samsung awaits your instruction to push the updates, and we respectfully request you do so immediately, in order to be up to date on stability, security, and support. This situation has bothered and frustrated many in the Vibrant community, we only ask that you extinguish that fire by providing us the update we deserve and earned, by being your customers."
people will never learn...
they cannot support devices forever. it seems like every single person thinks that once they buy a smartphone, they are guaranteed lifetime support. the cell phone industry is one of the fastest growing industries in the world. i would much rather them cut off my support and have a beast upgrade waiting for me, rather than them focus on constantly rolling out updates for every single device theyve ever created just to shut up *****y consumers. think about it, getting stuck with an outdated device makes it all that much better once you get your upgrade! its amazing im saying this, as i despise corporate america.
i realize the vibrant is just over a year removed, BUT THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY SINGLE DEVICE. i guarantee if you go to ANY other forum for a device that is 1+ years old, 95% of them will be filled with threads like this. update this, update that, fix this, release this blahblahiwantmybottleblahblah. its not JUST tmobile. its not JUST samsung. these accusations are so narrow-minded. what would happen if they released gingerbread??? two months later, the cry babies would be right back in full swing, "wheres honeycomb?? release honeycomb source!!" it has to end somewhere, you can never satisfy everybody, let alone ANYBODY in the vibrant forum.
its the industry. its the way it works, so stop acting like we are the only ones who are "suffering". its such an ignorant, narcissistic way of looking at it. enjoy what you got, nothings ever built to last. youre "stuck" with a damn good device, it is what you make it. weekly threads begging for gingerbread, or ****ting on tmobile/samsung is clearly not getting it done. so maybe people should be spending their time differently instead of constantly *****ing: get familiar with linux, learn to compile/decompile, learn to theme...its amazing how much fun (yes, without source!) youll be able to have once you learn some stuff. keep yourself busy creating new things, youll take more pride in your device knowing its something that YOU created, as opposed to trolling around and downloading anything you can get your sticky fingers on.
gingerbread isnt here....but neither is the end of the world.
TopShelf10 said:
people will never learn...
they cannot support devices forever. it seems like every single person thinks that once they buy a smartphone, they are guaranteed lifetime support. the cell phone industry is one of the fastest growing industries in the world. i would much rather them cut off my support and have a beast upgrade waiting for me, rather than them focus on constantly rolling out updates for every single device theyve ever created just to shut up *****y consumers. think about it, getting stuck with an outdated device makes it all that much better once you get your upgrade! its amazing im saying this, as i despise corporate america.
i realize the vibrant is just over a year removed, BUT THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY SINGLE DEVICE. i guarantee if you go to ANY other forum for a device that is 1+ years old, 95% of them will be filled with threads like this. update this, update that, fix this, release this blahblahiwantmybottleblahblah. its not JUST tmobile. its not JUST samsung. these accusations are so narrow-minded. what would happen if they released gingerbread??? two months later, the cry babies would be right back in full swing, "wheres honeycomb?? release honeycomb source!!" it has to end somewhere, you can never satisfy everybody, let alone ANYBODY in the vibrant forum.
its the industry. its the way it works, so stop acting like we are the only ones who are "suffering". its such an ignorant, narcissistic way of looking at it. enjoy what you got, nothings ever built to last. youre "stuck" with a damn good device, it is what you make it. weekly threads begging for gingerbread, or ****ting on tmobile/samsung is clearly not getting it done. so maybe people should be spending their time differently instead of constantly *****ing: get familiar with linux, learn to compile/decompile, learn to theme...its amazing how much fun (yes, without source!) youll be able to have once you learn some stuff. keep yourself busy creating new things, youll take more pride in your device knowing its something that YOU created, as opposed to trolling around and downloading anything you can get your sticky fingers on.
gingerbread isnt here....but neither is the end of the world.
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To be honest, support for the Vibrant has been pretty much nonexistent from T-Mobile, I don't think it's too much to ask for a GB ROM from them and Samsung, had T-Mobile been into providing us service instead of trying to sell out we could have had a beter chance at some real support.