Ok so im not posting this to be flammed or anything but more just to vent and for some opinions. But im really starting to get irritated with android and it's inability to come out with update in a timely manner, and i understand that alot has to do with the carrier to having to test it . But when you have all these android phones being made by 10 different manufacturers with really no limitations so they can all make there own flavor of android with different ui skins and, screen res, processors, file systems... etc. It is ridiculous cause there can't just be one kind of froyo nope , now there is froyo with sense , and touchwiz froyo, and for all the other different kinds of custom manufacturers skins that are thrown in. Which in my opinion makes it really difficult to be able to keep up with updates in a timely manner, and then on top of that samsung releases the fascinate that is supposed to get upgraded to froyo but instead of trying to get that pushed out they get the galaxy tab out with froyo hmmmm why not the fascinate no one knows and now the nexus s gets pushed out with gingerbread but what was that once again no froyo out for the fascinate i hope i am making sense with all this. Anyways as soon as Vzw get a WP7 phone that i like or the iphone 4 im leaving android, mainly for a smoother os and one that isn't so open that updates never happen. I would like some opinions on if im just impatient or if my whole venting session does make some sense to anyone, and if anyone agrees and is thinking the same as i am.
Ahhhhh i feel better... kinda
I didn't read any of your post because nobody cares. gtfo. This forum was not made for a ragfest.
Awesome dude.....
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Going to chalk it up to impatience.
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I didn't read any of your post because nobody cares. gtfo. This forum was not made for a ragfest.
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As i said im not trying to get flammed just opinions so if you don't have a helpful opinion then don't bother posting trying to be a ****...
Didn't read.
Just came by to lol
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I have to say I will never own another device unless it is an android. There are so many things that my D2 does that my friends Iphone 4's and Windows7's just can't do.
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I have to say I will never own another device unless it is an android. There are so many things that my D2 does that my friends Iphone 4's and Windows7's just can't do.
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Oh believe and that is why i do like android but maybe its just i get bored with a device to easily, this is my 4th android device this year lol. But the whole long periodsof time to get updates to fix bugs is getting to the point i just want something new, cause i love the fascinate and im gonna keep it for a backup/toy just feel the need for something new. Android just isn't cutting it for me anymore.
I love Android and the Fascinate in general and I think this whole 2.2 froyo update thing has blown absurdly out of overrated proportion! Yes 2.2 will be cool but alot of people are thinking it's going to be the awesome of all awesomes but it isn't? Aside from flash and app2sd there isn't a whole lot to speak about (thats going to be directly noticeable anyhow IMO)? Now, the Samsung Slow to no update record is another thing but we will have to see how that aspect plays out!
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I love Android and the Fascinate in general and I think this whole 2.2 froyo update thing has blown absurdly out of overrated proportion! Yes 2.2 will be cool but alot of people are thinking it's going to be the awesome of all awesomes but it isn't? Aside from flash and app2sd there isn't a whole lot to speak about (thats going to be directly noticeable anyhow IMO)? Now, the Samsung Slow to no update record is another thing but we will have to see how that aspect plays out!
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Agreed froyo isn't all that great i know i had it on 2 other devices just the fact of this device should have it. But very much agreed
Do you really think that new iPhone or Windows device you get will update to a new OS within a few months of its release? The only difference is that you start with lower expectations for Windows or the iPhone.
I Think your Just Fed up With waiting for an update that Probably wont be out for a bit longer. Watch if you Switch devices after a while your gonna come crawling back! they always Do!....On Another Note I Want Froyo for Jit and Flash so I could watch Videos online. Would be Nice >,< and Facebook games LOL!
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this is my 4th android device this year lol.
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Sounds like a classic case of spoiled brat syndrome to me. Get a job, quit having your mommy and daddy pay for your little toys and you'll appreciate the phone(s) more.
87jason I came from an iphobe 4 to verizon because of the superior service. I ended up getting the fascinate. I can say also there is nothing that android can do that Iphone doesn't do better. A jailbroken iphone ofcourse.
Themes, widgets, apps iphone wins hands down. There is no denying it. Oh and yes I said widgets.
One phone, once a year... no headaches or worries is something better out. The phone came out in June and still no phone is better hardware wise. Except the gpu is galaxy s is a bit better. But what's the point when there are ZERO APPS.
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I think its more that the fascinate didn't sell well for verizon so them nor samsung are that worried about it. Sux but coming from a flagship like the droid was it had updates all the time but it use to be the big dog.
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87jason I came from an iphobe 4 to verizon because of the superior service. I ended up getting the fascinate. I can say also there is nothing that android can do that Iphone doesn't do better. A jailbroken iphone ofcourse.
Themes, widgets, apps iphone wins hands down. There is no denying it. Oh and yes I said widgets.
One phone, once a year... no headaches or worries is something better out. The phone came out in June and still no phone is better hardware wise. Except the gpu is galaxy s is a bit better. But what's the point when there are ZERO APPS.
WAIT FOR IPHONE I AM
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Obvious troll i had 2 iphones prior to my android phones and they are the jitterbugs of the smartphone world. lie to urself all u want but don't try and drag anyone else into ur fantasy world.
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Oh believe and that is why i do like android but maybe its just i get bored with a device to easily, this is my 4th android device this year lol. But the whole long periodsof time to get updates to fix bugs is getting to the point i just want something new, cause i love the fascinate and im gonna keep it for a backup/toy just feel the need for something new. Android just isn't cutting it for me anymore.
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Maybe you should stick to Custom ROMS then to keep it interesting, there are loads out there (least until the proper updates come out)
My Fascinate Running GREAT!!!
For all the reasons you want out are the reasons I will always have a android phone.
My next phone will be on Verizon, dual core, front facing cam, android and a Motorola device (unlocked).
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For all the reasons you want out are the reasons I will always have a android phone.
My next phone will be on Verizon, dual core, front facing cam, android and a Motorola device (unlocked).
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id bet anything that there will never be an "unlocked" (i assume you are refering to bootloader) motorola device ever again
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id bet anything that there will never be an "unlocked" (i assume you are refering to bootloader) motorola device ever again
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Nope. The "unlocked" part is one reason I went with the Fascinate. I just hope that Froyo gets here soon, so that the development scene can pick up more.
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Samsung should take notes from Motorola.
The Droid 2 is breaking records in sales, mostly due to
marketing the Android 2.2 software and UI. Samsung has to hurry and get Froyo to the masses of Galaxy S owners and sell the hell out of it.
They have to keep up with the Jonses in order to sell these phones.
I think T-Mobile should step in and push this with their partners and have a huge re-launch of the phone. The vibrant is a great phone It just needs better marketing and cutting edge UI.
What do you think?
That's why it's called Samsung and T-mobile.
I'm thinking Samsung will announce something at IFA, which starts September 2nd. Their twitter keeps saying they're making a lot of big announcements. I'm hoping to get a definitive date for froyo then or at very least, the GPS fix.
Yeah I definetly agree with you. These Galaxy S phones have the hardware, but not the killer software to match it.
I was set on buying an iPhone, because I had no clue a phone like this even existed on my network.
But Samsung is by no means stupid and have been making some really indicative suggestions that we will be seeing some big changes in software in the next couple of months.
I'm more than sure that we will get Froyo, GPS fixes, and more by the end of September.
WHAT?!?!
FIRST:
the X doesn't have froyo. They have a leaked version with piss poor benchmarks.
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the galaxy is always having a commercial on tv.
Their also selling very well.
He's referring to the "Droid 2", not the "Droid X."
I think that us techno gadget geeks here on xda certainly care about Froyo. But out of all the people I know that are in the market for a new smart phone, or actually have android phones, they don't care about froyo, or even really know what that is if you mentioned it. I think the masses care about getting on facebook and taking a picture with their phone, etc... I think the silly things like having avatar on it are a bigger selling point to the masses compared to which version of android it has on it.
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I think that us techno gadget geeks here on xda certainly care about Froyo. But out of all the people I know that are in the market for a new smart phone, or actually have android phones, they don't care about froyo, or even really know what that is if you mentioned it. I think the masses care about getting on facebook and taking a picture with their phone, etc... I think the silly things like having avatar on it are a bigger selling point to the masses compared to which version of android it has on it.
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i'm lost, you want to put food on your phone and that is supposed to be a selling point...
People don't even know what android is. They go around asking if that's the droid phone. I'm sure they aren't aware of different versions of software or why it matters.
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People don't even know what android is. They go around asking if that's the droid phone. I'm sure they aren't aware of different versions of software or why it matters.
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Lol. I get that all the time, I switched from the iphone 4 to the vibrant and everyone of my friends calls it a droid. Verizon spent alot of money on marketing, but i guess any "droid" exposure is good.
Yeah + let's not forget motorola's other phones sitting on 1.5 with blur...even the behold 2 got 1.6 lol nothing to strive for
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LOL get the same thing.
Google was probably so pissed Motorola.
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I think that us techno gadget geeks here on xda certainly care about Froyo. But out of all the people I know that are in the market for a new smart phone, or actually have android phones, they don't care about froyo, or even really know what that is if you mentioned it. I think the masses care about getting on facebook and taking a picture with their phone, etc... I think the silly things like having avatar on it are a bigger selling point to the masses compared to which version of android it has on it.
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I agree, I think that most people want to hear "it's like an iphone" not "it's running android 2.2 with a 1ghz blah blah blah...."
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Lol. I get that all the time, I switched from the iphone 4 to the vibrant and everyone of my friends calls it a droid. Verizon spent alot of money on marketing, but i guess any "droid" exposure is good.
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Ha. Same here. People at work ask me questions about my "droid phone". My co-worker said she almost bought a droid the other day. I asked her which one and she said, "you know, the droid phone," as if there's only one. I've explained to them before what android is but it clearly doesn't sink in. I think its safe to say most people that aren't tech nerds are clueless. Even my iphone sporting friends don't know what Android is.
Pretty much they only care can about the surface stuff really. My brother in law has a news girlfriend who had a hero and didn't even know about the market on it at all. She didn't even know it was android.
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Yea I will have to agree that the mainstream consumer isn't going to know what version of android they're running/if they have an android phone/care about updates. All they're going to see is the big screen and avatar on the vibrant and want to buy it. The tmobile store demos has a little sign listing the specs like 1ghz processor but a good mass of people won't have a clue what that even means.
Hopefully froyo comes in September because I decided to not go the rooting route this time and just patiently wait it out. I would be annoyed if they waited until the fascinate came out to release froyo.
Where do you see the Droid 2 is breaking sales records? Have you seen the numbers for Galaxy S phones? They expect to sell 10 MILLION over the next 12 months. That's more than iPhone 4 by itself. Samsung has got the Galaxy S on pretty much every provider in every country, I would have to call that pretty damned good marketing. The fact that a few hundred or every a few thousand people are chomping at the bit for Froyo doesn't even begin to move the needle enough for them to even care. The fact that they are moving forward and will be pushing updates and Froyo soon enough means that all the gearheads like us will be recommending the phone to everyone we know.
Missing the boat? I beg to differ, I would say they built the damned boat this year and are fully in charge of its direction.
I really don't understand how the OP says that Samsung is missing the boat with Froyo. They already announced that it will be released in the early part of Sep. A few extra weeks won't KILL YOU!
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I really don't understand how the OP says that Samsung is missing the boat with Froyo. They already announced that it will be released in the early part of Sep. A few extra weeks won't KILL YOU!
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No, it won't kill us, but it will make me think about getting another Samsung.
If Samsung wants to add TouchWiz on their phones, then they should be prepared to react quickly when a new OS upgrade arrives. They've certainly had enough time before the Froyo original announcement.
The fact that they are lagging behind with what is supposed to be their flagship device, makes me nervous about how long it will take for the upgrade to OS 3.0, which will be a much more significant upgrade.
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No, it won't kill us, but it will make me think about getting another Samsung.
If Samsung wants to add TouchWiz on their phones, then they should be prepared to react quickly when a new OS upgrade arrives. They've certainly had enough time before the Froyo original announcement.
The fact that they are lagging behind with what is supposed to be their flagship device, makes me nervous about how long it will take for the upgrade to OS 3.0, which will be a much more significant upgrade.
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What makes you think they will ever upgrade the galaxy s lineup to 3.0?
Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?
The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.
Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~
Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.
Google better not leave us Nexus One owners out to dry for this Nexus S. Im talking about being the first to get updates like Gingerbread and Honeycomb (at least up to Honeycomb).
I still love my Nexus One and don't see any overwhelming reason to change to the Nexus S. Especially since HTC has been SO good to me.
Who's with me? Any of you thinking about jumping ship? Why?
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im with you, i dislike the general look of samsung hardware, looks like an iphone to me...
I'll stick with the Nexus One because it's still great and will get the latest updates.
And I agree with the guy above.
Oh, see this comparisation of the Nexus S, Nexus One and Galaxy S http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=nexus-one&phone=samsung-galaxy-s
try posting this in the right section... this is for apps and themes
lol, don't kid yourself, Google abandoned the N1 3 months after it came out. The N1 is getting shafted. Thanks Google.
If Google F's us over we still got the Dev. and XDA to save the day.
I don't see them leaving us in the dark.
As for getting the new one. At this point, nope. Not enough there to justify the $529. More memory, but no expansion?? 2nd Camera that I would never use. The Gyroscope. Eh.
Really the only thing there is Android 2.3. It will come out eventually for the N1. Even if not right away I will wait for it. I might try it when it comes time to upgrade the latest Desire Port but I have been happy with Sense UI and want to keep that in the long term so no big deal.
Not worried about Google as long as we have XDA!
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Not worried about Google as long as we have XDA!
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I would like to definitely try it. The only thing that kinda bothers me is the built in memory, but then again I have 8GB on the nexus one and I don't really feel the need to upgrade to anything more yet. If I switch to the nS is because of the front camera and (hopefully) a better digitizer, I hate the half baked one of the n1.
Me too...still love my nexus one even can not afford google maps 5.0 on gingerbread...
i doubt google will leave the nexus one behind, especially since the N1 and NS are very similiar in hardware, the NS is supior in power, but not enough to make it get updates the N1 won't
Also google has already said the N1 will be getting gingerbread in a few weeks, and i'm sure both phones will be getting honeycomb when it eventually comes out.
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i doubt google will leave the nexus one behind, especially since the N1 and NS are very similiar in hardware, the NS is supior in power, but not enough to make it get updates the N1 won't
Also google has already said the N1 will be getting gingerbread in a few weeks, and i'm sure both phones will be getting honeycomb when it eventually comes out.
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Thats a very good point Neo, Thanks.
I'm pretty sure they did ages ago and just handed over everything to HTC, who will probably get rid of all N1 support in about 6 months when the last warranties expire.
In terms of software though, it BETTER get Gingerbread and Honeycomb.
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Google better not leave us Nexus One owners out to dry for this Nexus S. Im talking about being the first to get updates like Gingerbread and Honeycomb (at least up to Honeycomb).
I still love my Nexus One and don't see any overwhelming reason to change to the Nexus S. Especially since HTC has been SO good to me.
Who's with me? Any of you thinking about jumping ship? Why?
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Let me paraphrase that for you.
I have a Nexus One, a year old phone, that is being surpassed by superior hardware on a slew of devices. Google better continue specializing their production of Android based on my year old device, those bastards. If they move forward and advance phone tech and its corresponding software I'm gonna be pissed!
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Joking aside ; even if Google does abandon us, as you say, it's certainly not the end for the Nexus One. Look at the G1 running Froyo for crying out loud. There are a lot of N1's floating around out there, and the demographic of its users are almost all tech heads like ourselves - A LOT of whom are even developers/programmers.
Don't concern yourself with the matter, if your phone does what you need it to and you like it... keep it. If you need to be first in line for updates directly from Google for the next year, I would suspect the NS would be the way to go.
Personally, I'm hanging on to my N1 until there are some respectable multi-core phones on the market. When that day finally comes I intend on having my Nexus framed; this has been the best phone I've owned and I don't think I could find it in myself to sell it.
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lol, don't kid yourself, Google abandoned the N1 3 months after it came out. The N1 is getting shafted. Thanks Google.
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That N1 has never gotten shafted, seriously. Give an example. The reality is that 11 months after its release we are still at the head of the line for OS updates. What is it with the ridiculous persecution complex among some N1 owners??
We should as a community make sure that google doesn't leave us.
we must remind them that as we were loyal to them, and they'd better not do an apple thing and ditch us.
Our phone's still more than capable compared to any other phone out there....
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Although XDA community's gr8, we should get their support too.
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Look at the G1 running Froyo for crying out loud.
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This alone should be enough to console the worried. A 2 year old phone, with incredibly outdated hardware, is still getting major support from developers -- if even Google abandons us.. hopefully there is one place that won't.
I bet the G1 itself is going to get a Gingerbread port.
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What is it with the ridiculous persecution complex among some N1 owners??
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Indeed, +1
I dont get why anyone gets so defensive about a phone, whatever it may be. Choose the phone which does what YOU want it to do, what it does NOW, not what it may or may not do in the future. Then, when you've made the choice, don't try and tell everyone else what they should or shouldn't choose.
As for the NS, looks nice enough, but I wont buy one for 2 reasons. First I've just bought an iphone 4 and second I'm reluctant to buy anything from samsung - I've had very little luck with their products - not just phones, and its always been a frustrating ownership experience - and worse - when its time to sell on, the resale value is terrible.
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Google better not leave us Nexus One owners out to dry for this Nexus S. Im talking about being the first to get updates like Gingerbread and Honeycomb (at least up to Honeycomb).
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Google owes you nothing. The N1 was primarily a reference dev device for Eclair/Froyo. The NS is the new reference dev device for Gingerbread/2.4.
It's called progress, get over it.
It took them this long to get FroYo out on ANY versions of Galaxy S hardware, we're all still on test builds... and they have Gingerbread running on the Nexus S... which is a freaking Galaxy S with a curved glass screen and NFC, a NEW piece of hardware.
So, Samsung is launch partner for Nexus S, first manufacturer with hands on Gingerbread, top in sales this year for Android, and spending millions to upgrade their phones...
Anyone wanna tell me why the f all Galaxy S phones aren't getting upgraded straight to gingerbread, before any of the other phones have a chance? Seems like they missed a boneheadedly obvious way to stage a coup on the hearts and minds of us loyal fans. Freaking Public Relations FAIL.
And I'll probably get flamed for this, and probably correctly, but just figured I'll be honest:
Last week I sold my epic and went back to Verizon, and got the Incredible. I miss the 4" screen, the ease of typing, the 4g, and the ability to easily wow people. And the Dinc's camera isn't as good.
But I don't regret it. I feel like my GS time was that of a first adopter. I paid for the wow. Since going back to DInc, I don't have as much wow time, but you know what? My GPS works as soon as I open GMaps. I don't need a hack to fix anything. My battery is only 1300mah, and doesnt last all day, but it never freaks out and drains while its asleep, or drains in two hours.
If this sounds like a rant, it's not. I loved the Epic, and the Vibrant I had first. The screen is amazing, and I waited since the HD2 for a phone bigger than 3.7 but smaller than 4.3. Samsung just needs to step up its validation, and it's support systems. The legion of Iphone fans aren't going to stick with any phone that doesn't just work.
Cue the berating for posting in the wrong section and/or movement of thread
What are you developing in this thread?
Ignoring that this is in the wrong section.
The man has a point.
dnathan13 said:
What are you developing in this thread?
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He's developing HATE! HATER!
Haha but for real, I understand what he's saying. Samsung has great hardware and $hit support/development. If it weren't for the devs on XDA, this phone would be a joke. We all just have to realize that we've already bought the phone, so they could care less about how we feel about it now.
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What are you developing in this thread?
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Quite a temper - zing!
dnathan13 said:
What are you developing in this thread?
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+1
Sent from my Epic 4G
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He wants people to hear his rant is all. All the cool people hang out at the Android Development section.
Jesus, sell the damn thing and get a phone that makes you warm and fuzzy on the inside.
bigray327 said:
Jesus, sell the damn thing and get a phone that makes you warm and fuzzy on the inside.
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as im more likely to agree....im kind of wondering if there is a phone that does make you feel warm and fuzzy, its probally cancer, herpes, or mono. you might just wanna stick with a good phone and leave the warm and fuzzies to the adult bookstores
Now I'll be honest. I think what you spewed is complete garbage. I'm running dk28 with no issues. I didn't have issues with eclair after the updated it to fix the "capped upload" issue. So I CHOSE to update it, I didn't have to...
I don't know how someone can possibly be so impatient that they'd run away crying like a 12 year old girl with a skinned knee for an update that hasn't even had a official release date given for it (that I've ever seen anyway). So, your impatience is not a sprint/samsung issue. It's a you issue. But I guess people like you would rather throw out a buggy update to shut whiners like you up. But then I'll guarantee that'd warrant another post from you crying about it. Maybe in the themes/apps section this time?
With that being said, since you obviously don't understand forum ediquette, I'm also left to assume you screwed something up when you flashed unsupported software to your phone by not follwing instructions, or whatever the case is. And AGAIN this is something that's you're fault, not sprint/samsung.
So yeah... The devs here made my phone a lot more of a pleasure to use. But it was a great device out of the box. The best I've owned so far by a long shot.
And if you want everything to work %100 why would you flash leaked software anyway?
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Jesus, sell the damn thing and get a phone that makes you warm and fuzzy on the inside.
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Re-read what he wrote in the second post and you'll find this in the second paragraph:
trevorwhopkins said:
Last week I sold my epic and went back to Verizon, and got the Incredible. I miss the 4" screen, the ease of typing, the 4g, and the ability to easily wow people. And the Dinc's camera isn't as good.
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Trevor, wrong section but since it's already here I must say it's definitely a justified rant. I've personally never really had an issue with those problems because I expect them to happen when I change it from stock, but I suppose I'm the minority. A friend and I had a conversation a week ago and believed because of the Nexus S that it would be in Samsungs best interest to just release the Vanilla version of each release to the carriers and let us pick and choose which bloatware we'd like, much like what we currently do with the ROMS. It would definitely feed the 3rd party developments as well as enhance what makes the Android platform wonderful.
With that said, try to post in the right section next time =)
So OP has a DInc now? He's going to be pissing and moaning when the Galaxy S series gets Gingerbread before his phone (thank you Nexus S). I hope the DInc forum goers are extremely tolerant..
+1 OP I don't get W$F samsungs deal is? can u see dell, asus or samsung for that matter releasing a new pc last Sep & or summer with vista on it and not having any win7 drivers in 10~11/2009 ? NO u can't! But thats what samsung is almost doing hear.
A friend got a LG Optimus s (free phone btw) the gps works better than epics on 2.1. O and the free optimus has 2.2
Ya go a head and flame me idc am I ranting YES! The point is samsung is ........ no I think sprint is dragging ass on this update and it should have been on the phone a long time ago.
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And I'll probably get flamed for this, and probably correctly, but just figured I'll be honest:
Last week I sold my epic and went back to Verizon, and got the Incredible. I miss the 4" screen, the ease of typing, the 4g, and the ability to easily wow people. And the Dinc's camera isn't as good.
But I don't regret it. I feel like my GS time was that of a first adopter. I paid for the wow. Since going back to DInc, I don't have as much wow time, but you know what? My GPS works as soon as I open GMaps. I don't need a hack to fix anything. My battery is only 1300mah, and doesnt last all day, but it never freaks out and drains while its asleep, or drains in two hours.
If this sounds like a rant, it's not. I loved the Epic, and the Vibrant I had first. The screen is amazing, and I waited since the HD2 for a phone bigger than 3.7 but smaller than 4.3. Samsung just needs to step up its validation, and it's support systems. The legion of Iphone fans aren't going to stick with any phone that doesn't just work.
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Have you ever thought that the Incredible had bugs when it first came out. Really the Epic is only 2 months old while the incredible came out at April. And also Iphone 4 came out with a serious flaw of "holding the phone wrong" and Iphone users still stick with it.
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Re-read what he wrote in the second post and you'll find this in the second paragraph:
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Oh, in that case, I'll amend my comment to the OP to say: Jesus, STFU, nobody cares.
zman519 said:
see dell, asus or samsung for that matter releasing a new pc last Sep & or summer with vista on it and not having any win7 drivers in 10~11/2009 ? NO u can't!
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I really hope that is sarcasm... I've seen this happen dozens if times.
Let's keep the flamming down to a minimum...
On another note, keep out of the development section if you aren't developing. Thanks!
I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has now driven me back to the iPhone witch ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has no driven me back to the iPhone with ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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K... Bye.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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LMAO don't be so mellow dramatic.
The OS isn't outdated, it's just not on the bleeding edge of technology with the absolute latest update, my friend. Speaking of bleeding, what's so important and missing from the Atrix that's making your tampon leak all over the place?
If you want to switch to an iPhone, that's all right. We have a great Android community and we all love our Atrix's despite it's minor flaws. No phone is perfect. But it seems like you should genuinely consider sticking to just the Google flagship handsets if you're going to complain so much.
LOL. Good, one less whiner around here.
Wow. Someone has sand in his vagina. hahaha
Bye bye! Kthx.
GibMcFragger said:
Wow. Someone has sand in his vagina. hahaha
Bye bye! Kthx.
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But it's so tight!
I would say bye also, but that would imply I give a turd! lol
You know a lot of apps don't work on 2.3
Takes time for devs to catch up...
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I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has no driven me back to the iPhone with ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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This is a useless complaint. It doesn't help anything. So...why even waste your time? Nobody cares.
Atrix lol
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this phone has been out for a lil over a month and your complaining already? Really??? if you don't like the the device just move on, go back to your N1 that has to be rooted and fully modded just to barely reach half of the power that the Atrix has, there's a difference between constructive criticism and ignorance.....i wish people would quit whining about the bootloader on this phone and actually give it a chance, and be patient while the devs are working on it, what if root never existed??? what would u do then?
In my "opinion" if root never existed, we wouldn't have these complaints about the atrix, and they would realize that it's the most powerful phone to date and possibly this year, think about it motorola set a trend with the atrix, the first dual core phone so now every other company is gonna hop on the bandwagon, so give moto some credit at least
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I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has no driven me back to the iPhone with ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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An amazingly sad tale.. I hope you have some kleenex nearby.
Give the guy some slack. If u realy don't care about his wyning than why do u waste ur time replying to his post. maybe he just got bad luck and ended up with some ****y devices.
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i cant say i agree with most of the post but i do agree with the locked bootloader. right now jailbroken iphone's seem to have more freedom than this device. I love it and with the exception of the camera and the bootloader, i really wouldnt change a thing.
but most of us come from a truly rooted device and flashing roms to suit our own needs. Maybe im just spoiled with android's freedom.
Well I'm back on my n1 not by choice... you guys whining on att have nothing to complain about AT ALL. The bell atrix is really nothing special without sbf or the update... its a tad quicker its a bit smoother but honestly I need an ATT model to even compare.
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i cant say i agree with most of the post but i do agree with the locked bootloader. right now jailbroken iphone's seem to have more freedom than this device. I love it and with the exception of the camera and the bootloader, i really wouldnt change a thing.
but most of us come from a truly rooted device and flashing roms to suit our own needs. Maybe im just spoiled with android's freedom.
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i can from a epic 4g and a hero and to say the truth i was tried of flashing all different kinds of crap all the time to just make it work.
all that has gone away with the atrix it just great
but i personally think i might get an iphone after my atrix because i have never had one just because i am tired of android because its all the same
it would be a lie if i said i havent been tempted to sell my atrix while the resale value is fairly high. But there are no phones that compete with everything this phone has to offer...
-best battery life ever by far
-amazing screen
-speaker is the best i have had on a phone
-one very important thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the back cover! Anyone notice that the whole back and corners of the phone are covered by a cover that can be purchased from the store??? GREATEST IDEA EVER!!
-once launcher pro is installed UNCHECK the high quality scrolling and the home screens absolutely fly with no lag ever
-i have a 16gb sd card and the phone comes with another 16!
-future proof for the most part
-the notification bar NEVER lags which is much more than i can say for pretty much every android device i have owned
-hdmi output is surprisingly usefull
Whatever lag is noticable is likely due to everything not being optimized for dual core and this high level of screen resolution(like lwp)
I love my Atrix and am patient enough to wait for the boot loader. Some people will say this and that about the Atrix but let's be realistic our phone is just as powerful as a netbook, that's awesome lol
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I doubt we will see full potentional of our phones until we get the gingerbread update.
don't hit your vagina on the way out